Okay, some people want to comment about the ending of the Midnighters trilogy, but they feel bad about spoiling the ending for others.
So I am decreeing this post to be the Blue Noon spoiler zone!
WARNING: DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST
unless you have already read all three Midnighters books.
So how does it end? He dies on the bus!
No, wait. That’s Midnight Cowboy, which is totally different.
Heh, heh.
But seriously, click on comments and let the spoilage begin!
UPDATE: Most of the conversations here have moved over to westerboard.com, the forum for all things westerfeldian.
March 2nd, 2006 15:08
Hmm.. ok where to start where to start..hmm ok the idea of the “rips” were mindblowing enough for me and I liked them alot it made me think alot more. Rex and his little issues made me wonder if he would turn completely at times. The end when Jessica got pulled into the 25′th hour was just like.. ah.. Beginning of Chapter 32 I was ready to kill someone I was so pissed that he killed her off.. but no I find out she’s not gone for a hour at least.. Three of them leaving to go look for others.. just made me want another book of how they get Jessica out and the possible other things that could have happened because of the “rips”. I’ll end up writing more later.. watch..
March 2nd, 2006 15:16
“So how does it end? He dies on the bus!”
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!! I thought you were serious. Okay, I am staying out of this thread.
March 2nd, 2006 19:46
it made me cry.
March 3rd, 2006 02:29
ahh it’s sad the way it ended…
Jessica being stuck in midnight and them leaving
It made me sad to think of her parents thinking she ran off or something
gah now I want another book!!
March 3rd, 2006 04:21
Yeah it made me cry… Melissa leaving Rex made me cry cuz they’re my favorite couple!!! yeah…i need another one too… my friend is gonna kill me when she reads this… good book though…just depressing ending
March 3rd, 2006 08:12
the end was absolutely mind blowing….i never expected that to happen! but you ended it quite nicely. (made me yearn for more, and made a depressed
but didnt make me hate the book) of course id never hate your books…^_^
March 3rd, 2006 11:05
I cried… At least Jess isn’t all gone. But still.. THERE WASN’T ENOUGH OF DESS, SCOTT!!!! three more months till specials..
March 3rd, 2006 11:51
I havent read this third book yet, becuase I had a feeling it would have a ending like everybody else is saying here, and i didnt want to get that ” I hate the book because it was so good but not 100% happy ending”- feeling. Isnt it funny how that happens. We love the books, then when the ending is the way we want it, we just want to rip it apart. The power of words..i tell ya.
March 3rd, 2006 12:21
that was so sad the ending being stuck in the blue time
March 3rd, 2006 12:37
Not Jessica, Please write more books. Will you write more books and if you dont can you just tell us if they every rescued her?
March 3rd, 2006 12:42
The ending gives the impression that there will be more books.
March 3rd, 2006 13:01
Yes more books.. please or at least tell us if she was saved or not cause that just sucked… *sighs*
March 3rd, 2006 13:06
Saved? But living in the Blue Time isn’t all that bad.
After all, she only ages one hour every day, so she can easily live for another three hundred years and then hang out with Tally!
March 3rd, 2006 13:15
LOL. That would be an intresting book
March 3rd, 2006 13:15
But But.. no.. it’s not fair!! comeon… Blue time rocks and everything but.. I mean what about…. love, growning up a bit more… friends.. bah..
Sometimes you make to much sense Scott….
March 3rd, 2006 13:15
Wait a minute. Are you dodging the more books question?
March 3rd, 2006 13:16
okay i just want to say i was kind of dissapointed in the end, well not really dissapointed just sobbing. yes sobbing. i was crying my eyes out. not many books do that ot me. i’m really not a big crier. i just finished it today, about an hour ago. i was reading it on my back porch and my mom came out cause she heard me sniffling. she asked me what was wrong and i told her and in her motherly brain she turned it around to me really being sad over not having a boyfriend. so messed up. anyway. i cried even harder once i found out that Melissa was leaving Rex. please tell us if they save her or not!!!!!! or even better write one more book. just one is all we ask. please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or something similar.
March 3rd, 2006 13:17
See some want more books if not all we want them.. we won’t take you soul or anything as of yet Scott *smirks* Comeon Please..!!!!!!
March 3rd, 2006 13:18
It would be intersting to meet some more Midnighters. Is Billy Clintock still alive? Is he the one that left.
March 3rd, 2006 13:20
I WANT MORE BOOKS!!!! And I wont leave this site to you say you will write more…… Oops gotta go to dinner.
March 3rd, 2006 13:21
See someone is with me … MORE BOOKS!!!!!! .. please.. I’ll sell you my soul.. comeon.. please…. please.. *wimpers* This is so not fair!
March 3rd, 2006 13:21
It’s 8:20 even though the posting time says 1 something. Just thought you should know
March 3rd, 2006 13:30
i also noticed there were more curse words in this one than in the other ones. I STILL WANT MORE BOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! one would do. PLEEEEAAASSSEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL WAIT FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!! i can wait if i know you’ll write another one. please!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 3rd, 2006 13:39
Please!!!! I’ll throw in my soul too.
March 3rd, 2006 13:40
And all my novel ideas. I’m a writer too.
March 3rd, 2006 13:41
Not as good as you, though I’ll never be as good as you.
March 3rd, 2006 13:41
Is the flattery helping?
March 3rd, 2006 13:44
See you you have two offered sould now can you not see we need this.. we need it.. please.. comeon…. this is sad me begging like this when I am 18 but comeon please!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!! PLease!!!!!! *offers soul once more and food for a year and the right to my life*
March 3rd, 2006 13:49
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay my hands tired, I’ll beg some more tommorow. See you then
March 3rd, 2006 13:50
Silver, give’em hell for me. LOL
March 3rd, 2006 13:54
Oh I will just for ya Babe!
Please Please Please.. we love you Scott… !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You rule the whole world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL TAKE OUT [edited by Midnighters Secret Service] IF YOU DON’T LIKE HIM JUST GIVE US ANOTHER BOOK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sobs*
March 3rd, 2006 14:04
EEEK! Stop the madness! (Although the flattery is nice.)
Here’s the thing: There HAVE been discussions about more Midnighters books, but I can’t go into them in a public forum. But yes, there COULD be more. For right now that is all I can say. (tick-tock, lips are locked)
Of course, you guys will be the first to know!
(Oh, and Shaz, the posting times are Sydney time while I’m in Australia, and USian Eastern when I’m in the US. Because I am the center of the universe, if by “universe” you actually mean “this web site.”)
March 3rd, 2006 14:10
Madness.. but can’t you see that we care…. *sighs* Can i take someone out for you please it’ll be fun.. We better know.. but fine.. I will stop for now could only be a day or a week maybe more only time will tell..
Still think you are the best writer around and nothing will change that.
March 3rd, 2006 14:25
ahh the slight possibility makes me so happy!!
ahh the wonderfulness
March 3rd, 2006 14:54
hands no longer tired, it would be cool to meet more midnighters and learn more about the diffrent powers midnighters have.
March 3rd, 2006 17:18
i wanna noe bout metalerges!!!!
March 3rd, 2006 18:00
Ha, well, I just ruined it for myself.
Oh well, that wasn’t actually a lot of spoilage there.
I just barely started Touching Darkness. So far so good. B-)
I also lent The Secret Hour to my friend today. We swap books a lot…
I’m SO gonna end up ordering the hardcover. Haha, what’s a few extra bucks, eh?
Sounds like a good ending though. I look forward to this.
March 4th, 2006 02:18
Ahh, possibilities, that is uplifting to hear. I know you probably weren’t being serious with Jess and Tally but OOH! You should write a short about them meeting, that’d be trippy. You guys streched the page out, man. It…ripped. *g*
The twist at the end was excruciating but brilliant, Scott, and while I cried a smidge it was a great end. Started with as much as a bang as the first book did when I got it so long ago as an ARC….fond memories!
-Hannah
March 4th, 2006 02:32
Well at least ther is a slight chance for another book
March 4th, 2006 05:16
I just read Blue Noon a few days ago, and the ending was sad. I’ve always thought that jessica was the least comfortable in the blue time of all the midnighters. (remember how the Blue Moon hurts her eyes) The only thing that made it tolerable for her was jonathan, and now she’ll have to watch him die of old age while she is still a young girl. That said, i too would really like to see more midnighter books. Jessica can’t just be stuck in the blue time forever!!!
March 4th, 2006 05:58
I swear! does no one care about beth in this situation? All i have heard was oh poor rex and dess and melissa! Beth is stuck without a sister, but knowing she is still alive, while having to keep a secret from everyone or they will think she is CRAZY! And she only gets to see her once, I mean COMEON! i cried so hard at that part! The book was amazing Scott, i stayed up till 3 in the morning finishing it, and i cried so hard. I also demand a book about Dess meeting the other polymaths, and you absolutely have to save Jessica or i am going to……grrrr! i dont have a threat! Im going to go fume in the corner!
March 4th, 2006 11:42
Scott, even if you do write more books do you already know how they would get here out? Or would it just come to you as you wrote the book?
March 4th, 2006 11:42
Geez. I loved this book, everything was great, for the most part, the end wasnt bad just… a bit painful to us readers. When I finished I didnt cry or rampage or anything, I just sat mouth agape staring at the wall in front of me trying to process if this was really THE END of the series. After about thirty minutes my mom came and shook me back to reality. Of course I’d always encourage ANOTHER BOOK *hint hint, nudge nudge* but I figure Scott didnt have to give us as much as he did, he didnt have to make this a trilogy, he didnt have to write these things at all. I’d APPRECIATE ANOTHER BOOK, but I’m not going to demand any more. I take what I can get. Besides if the TVshow deal works out we might get a bit of closure.
March 4th, 2006 11:42
I mean her, I typed here.
March 4th, 2006 11:46
Briana is right, Blue Noon would be a good season finale, then the next season they would add in more characters and try to figure out how to save Jessica while fighting some other dark creatures. LOL I’m talking like its already a Tv series. I have a feeling we’ll be seeing it sometime late this year or next year.
March 4th, 2006 12:34
Pore beth!
March 4th, 2006 12:51
Yeah poor Beth, but she’s a pretty tough girl.
March 4th, 2006 13:07
And Beth has Cassie now! A real friend to call her own, with a shared secret world they’ve both seen.
And that ain’t bad.
March 4th, 2006 13:22
maybe but still I will always wonder.. but that is just me so.. yea…. T.v. Show.. I really hope that they don’t ruin it because then I will be so sad/pissed off…
March 4th, 2006 13:36
ugg i could never watch the tv show. i hate tv
March 4th, 2006 13:37
i squeeled when i read that you might possibly do another Midnighters. it kept me up all night last night worrying about if you would or not. so the possibility makes me happy.
March 4th, 2006 13:47
I agree about having more books! I LOVED the finale, but the epilogue didn’t feel fulfilling. It’s not fair that Dess and Rex had to stay in Bixby while the others leave.
March 4th, 2006 14:09
I agree with Silver, I really hope they dont ruin it, and if they do make a tv show about it, keep an eye on it if u can, cause it wouldnt be fair to your amazing words.
March 4th, 2006 15:33
I dont think i would want a TV series it’s always a letdown from the book plus i never have time to watch TV I want the book so BAD! but i have no money and no friends with good taste in books
I vote for more midnighters books (not that that counts for anything) but still these books are my favorite!
March 4th, 2006 15:50
People are talking about they never have time to watch Tv or they never watch it, well there people who do and people who would like to see the series even if it is a let down.
March 4th, 2006 16:01
Why on earth would we want to see it if it was a let down.. so that we can be depresed or so we can sit there reading the book word from word with each new show… no I don’t want to do that I hate when the ruin books into movies.. t.v. shows.. if they do it won’t make me happy but.. I mean I can’ty stop them if they change things but if it’s big things missing then.. I believe that everyone will have one thing or another to say about it…. I vote for more books or at least letting the t.v. people letting you have something to do with the show to tell the truth.. if you have something to say about we might understand the changes that may have to take place… I hope someon understands what it is that I am trying to say.. *sigh* I’ll shut up for now..
March 4th, 2006 16:37
we’ve turned this comment page into a chat room. Scott, you need to put a chat room on your site.
March 4th, 2006 18:19
I havent even read the book and i feel like crying from what I’m seeing. Scott a question for you. What do it feel like knowing your writing can make peoples emotions go crazy? Your books make people cry, laugh, etc, how does that make you feel?
March 4th, 2006 18:42
Scott, if you will don’t write more, I swear I will write the most terrible fanfic EVER!!!! The plot would consist of a rebeliouse darkling falling in love with Jessica, cutting out all the other original chacters, (Johnathin, Dess, etc..) Oh. And the other darklings will have conversations in English about what to do about this little problem. And the descriptions will be ” Jessica’s hair looked like sunrise on a beach in California, and her eyes were the color of a freshly mowed lawn.” So you’d BETTER write more! You have been warned!
March 4th, 2006 18:48
Isn’t it nice to know your’re so loved?
March 4th, 2006 18:55
Haha, I just realized “homeschooling” has thirteen letters.
While typing something…
I counted…I’m a dork.
March 4th, 2006 19:50
I loved the ending, but I want to know more! I’ll now go through my post-finishing-a-series depression.
I really want more books on Midnighters, but I guess all good things must come to an end. I just wish it didn’t have to happen now. :’(
March 4th, 2006 19:54
Didn’t read previous posts. I gues the question was answered (Or had stopped being asked so much.)
Yeah, but it’s 3:00 here, I read it in one sitting. And my neck hurts because I decided not to look up or anything like that. I should do that more…
March 5th, 2006 03:50
I meant that even if they messed it up I would still watch it, I’m not saying I would like it.
March 5th, 2006 03:51
He really does need a chat room though.
March 5th, 2006 04:48
I would still watch the show, even if it was bad, because that would just make me realize how great the books are ^.^
March 5th, 2006 05:13
I like the ending. Talk about growing up – Melissa leaves, Rex stays, Jonathan is grounded (not grounded as in can’t-go-out-grounded, but grounded as in spiritually grounded, Dess is realizing there’s other people out in the world she can talk to, and Jessica is somewhere. Can’t save the world and not have some decisions to make after that. I’d be content with not having any follow-up books but for one burning question… How is Jessica going to travel? She gets one hour to be physical and I can’t imagaine that she’s going to spend that hour riding in a car. I get the impression that when the hour is up, she folds into space/time where she is and just reappears at that point the next time…. Maybe I’m thinking too hard about this?
March 5th, 2006 05:37
Jessica would not feel the other 24 hours. To her it would be like she just kept going, but things would dissapear/reapear.
March 5th, 2006 06:20
yea, but if they are all leaving, then how will she travel? unless they all stay put for 24 hours, and then jonathan flies them all, which seems unlikely. so yea, i think jessica is going to be quite a burden on them all.
March 5th, 2006 06:53
Yeah.. What Korbe said.
March 5th, 2006 08:00
^.^
March 5th, 2006 08:41
I agree with Korbe and Julie. Jessica is going to have trouble going anywhere, what with only being able to travel for one hour at a time. Do Jonathan and Melissa wait around for her and only travel in the blue time? Man that would be a problem…
March 5th, 2006 09:28
Hmm the above comments got me thinking.. alot actually.. that would be a big problem.. Hmmm just going to watch and keep reading ..
March 5th, 2006 10:07
Here’s how they’d probably travel: Jessica and Jonathan would fly ahead during the secret hour, then Jonathan and Melissa would catch up by car during the daylight. (Which means Jonathan spending some of his time going back to where Melissa is toward the end of midnight.) This would be slow, maybe twenty or thirty miles a day. But that’s a lot faster than, say, covered wagons moving across the country.
Don’t forget that in every new town they arrive in, there will be more midnighters to find and explain stuff to, new talents to discover, roaming darklings to slay, etc. So most of their time will go into that, with a few days’ travel in between spots. For Jessica, it will all pass much quicker, of course. In a funny way, it would be a bit like one of those old TV shows (The Hulk, The Fugitive), where the protags arrive in a new town every episode, solve the problems, then run away at the end of the ep.
Of course, my guess is that some of the new midnighters would start moving with them. Partly for protection (there are still darklings wandering around) and partly because . . .
Argh! Must. Stop. Thinking. About. More. Books!
March 5th, 2006 10:07
What do it feel like knowing your writing can make peoples emotions go crazy? Your books make people cry, laugh, etc, how does that make you feel?
It’s kind of weird. Like some kind of sympathetic magic: little squiggles of ink bringing happiness or sadness to someone thousands of miles away.
” Jessica’s hair looked like sunrise on a beach in California, and her eyes were the color of a freshly mowed lawn.”
Her eyes have those lawnmower stripes, too. How did you know?
The chat room issue is being investigated. Thanks for the suggestion, Amelia (and others).
March 5th, 2006 10:16
No Scott do keep thinking about more books. You may have answered the question.. but hmmm could there be another Flamebringer…? Chat room is a good idea.. would stop all of the comments but eh I am fine with either…
March 5th, 2006 10:50
*takes out shiny medallion, and begins to swing slowly in front of scott*
Continue to think about midnighters……… Make more Books…………. When i snap my fingers Scott, you will feel the urge to write more books.
*snap*
Now how do you feel?
March 5th, 2006 11:48
Keep thinking about Midnighters. All those talents waiting to be reaveled… all thos new Midnighters floating around deep in your subconcious whispering bits of witty dialogue when there being told they can walk around during the 25th hour and that they have special powers that they must use to fight darklings.
March 5th, 2006 11:50
Hey you could write short stories about the Midnighters adventures after Blue Noon and post them on your site.
March 5th, 2006 12:38
Yea! great idea shaz! Only of course if Scott is up to it, ^.^
March 5th, 2006 12:39
only joking, we all know Scott has no choice in the matter, right scott, dont make me get the medallion out again! B^)
March 5th, 2006 12:47
That is a good idea Shaz if he doesn’t do another book.. but I would like Scott to do another book remember I will still give you my soul…
March 5th, 2006 12:52
sure sure… hypnosis is great, but the wave of the future is sublimi-write more books-nal messages…
March 5th, 2006 13:11
good idea toby, maybe we should work together, imagine how many books we could get!
March 5th, 2006 13:17
*devilish grin*
March 5th, 2006 13:21
So many people working together.. hmm..
March 5th, 2006 14:01
Scott, I am really impressed with your constant interaction with your readers. This is truly an asset for all involved…
You are a reader’s writer, and that does nothing but make me appreciate your books even more.
So thanks for this, and please keep doing what you’re doing!!
March 5th, 2006 14:22
Yea! Carmen you are absolutely right, i have been writing on this blog for a while now, and never told u how much i appreciate u talking back. You really are in contact with ur readers, and that really makes a difference, Thank You Very Much!
March 5th, 2006 14:23
that was meant for Scott, not carmen. I really should preread my posts before sending them lol
March 5th, 2006 15:04
So.. If you don’t write any more Midnighters, what’s next? What’s the airship thing about?
March 5th, 2006 15:16
I was confused at first as to what happened to Jess but was sad when i realized what happened. Ever since the first book I KNEW that Jess+frozen lightning would be something. But I’m sad that it’s all over. Go for a double trilogy like in star wars!!!!! maybe a prequel to the days before Jessica moved to Bixby or have completely new people who just discovered their Midnighter abilities and figuring out their talents. But I really enjoyed all of the books and I’m really sad that we wont see them any more.
March 5th, 2006 15:38
Knowing Jessica is stuck in the midnight hour and that her parents think she is missing depresses me
I really hope you write more books!
March 5th, 2006 16:02
Yeah I hope he writes more books and if he dosnet I hope he does the shory story thing.
March 5th, 2006 16:09
I agree with Shaz…. all we can do for right now is wait and try not to drive Scott to crazy..
March 5th, 2006 16:40
well im all for a sit down, you with me shaz and silver? lol, i really hope scott writes more, it would be really great. *that was a hint scott, im trying to be subtle, is it working?*
March 5th, 2006 16:53
Oh I am with you all the way.. everyone seems to wait at least something more.. t.v. isn’t going to cut it for me… not at all..
March 5th, 2006 17:03
You know whats funny I just finish watching “Misery” (A writer is held hostage by his number one fan because he ends a series that has made his well known and she forces him to write another book) I think this is a sign from God *devilish grin*
March 5th, 2006 17:04
Anybody thinking what I’m thinking?
March 5th, 2006 17:05
LOL
March 5th, 2006 17:06
This thing is up to a hundred post. I think this is a first.
March 5th, 2006 17:07
I mean a hundred comments. Here goes a hundred and one
March 5th, 2006 20:54
heh lol you watched that movie.. we can’t do that to Scott we love him a bit to much..
March 6th, 2006 03:55
Yea i saw that movie, its bad, kathie bates is scary! no matter how mad i got at scott for not writing more, i could never pull a misery on him. lol, but im all for the hypnosis, subliminal messaging and the sit down, ^.^, doesnt it make u feel all warm inside what people are willing to do for ur books scott?
March 6th, 2006 05:11
If you think the movie version of Misery was scary, you should read the book. As good as the movie is, it pales in comparison. (Which is funny, given all the comments here about how Midnighters might suck as a TV show.)
I just finished Blue Noon about an hour ago, and you did a great job making all the pieces fit properly.
The only part that I felt was not quite right was the whole Grayfoot chase scene. The fact that they show up later than Rex (who was late by design) for his meeting with Angie didn’t seem likely, and the resulting chase was even more of a stretch (a Mercedes that can’t catch someone doing only 85? – they should have had them within a few seconds).
I’m not asking for an explanation – the story is what it is. I just think that part could have been better (sorry).
Having said that I still think it was an excellent book, and would eagerly await even more Midnighters adventures!
March 6th, 2006 05:44
About the fanfic thing, I’ll be sure to make it like a kidzbop thing. Like where they take a great song, and slaughter it. Do they have Kidzbop commercials anywhere but Cartoon Network? God, I hate that channel.
March 6th, 2006 07:51
Finally I’ve found someone who hates Cartoon Newtork as much as I do.. I cant stand that Kidzbop bull….. crap either.
March 6th, 2006 08:44
…..i read the last chapter and then had to go back and read it again. It was an awesome book, but the ending made me majorly sad. But i was really glad it ended with Dess…she’s my favorite.
March 6th, 2006 11:24
I agree with sporch, it is way cool to be the one that does the math, lol. I love dess alot, so ending the book with her was a really good idea, thanks again scott, for writing the best books in the universe! (that is until my stories go on shelves, lol jk, im not much of a threat ^.^)
March 6th, 2006 14:39
Dess is the best.
March 6th, 2006 14:48
i like Dess too. she reminds me of me. lol.^_^. except for the math thing….
March 6th, 2006 16:22
So Dess is happy. Good for her. I like her. But what about Jess and John? Heh? For while it’ll be fine. They’ll travel, they’ll meet more midnighters, they can still hang with each other at midnight. But for how long until it’s weird? Johnathan will be old and Jess will be a teen! The long term for them is not happy at all. Unless Jess gets out of only living for one hour!! This has to happen. How’s this for wierdness. So like 30 or so years will pass and Jess will still be young. Then some awesome way, they figure how to get her out! Then she sees her family and she’s like way younger than her 40 year old sister Beth. Creepy!
March 7th, 2006 07:50
Wow, i never thought about it that way Breta, its kreepy, but HOPEFULLY Scott brings her back out of the secret hour, because if he doesnt, well…..I dont know what im going to have to do to cope, but its not going to be good, so there!
March 7th, 2006 10:47
I cried for ten min. my friends were like what the hell is wrong with you and i told them to buzz off because i was depresed! i love jonathan how can they do that to him he only sees jess and hour a day not to mention by the time she is 19 he will be dead or dying of old age man why the hell did you have to end it that way!!!!!!!! when my best friend read it she laughed i was like so not cool Molly
March 7th, 2006 10:56
one more book or a fallow up ser. would be nice maybe when Rx and everybody are then you know you could have them find a love interest for Dess but it needs to be a total new talent and then they could get Jess out of the blue time with this persons help,but Rex and Melissa need to finish what they started and Jonathan does not deserve heart break like that man it is so not cool! PLEASE NOTE: that Dess’s love interest should not be Jonathan Jess would like kill herself
March 7th, 2006 10:57
Silver so right you know scott if you don’t please us we could probubly haunt you with this destressed fanmail for the rest of you life
March 7th, 2006 13:28
Hey now.. don’t put that on on me .. Shaz started that one.. I love him a bit to much but still umm yea..
March 7th, 2006 14:26
My friend ruined the book for me *lol* I guess thats what I get for asking her how the book was…
But I would enjoy more midnighters books! How they can get Jessica out, their travels, Rex and Melissa..
I am currently on the Uglies series, its very interesting
March 7th, 2006 15:02
yea joy, the uglies series is really great too, but specials isnt out yet, so i think that hounding scott for more uglies books would be unfair ^.^
March 7th, 2006 15:23
I really liked that it was bittersweet. I’m not always crazy about things that end with all the ‘Shiny Happy People’ Michael Stipe warned us about. It was nice to see them go their separate ways, maybe grow up a little.
I love that Rex and Dess are in Bixby together, too. Sure, there’s a…personality clash, but I think they’ll be good for each other- even if not to each other.
And I agree with everyone about the Dess ending- she was definitely my favorite part of the whole series. So, thanks for that. I vote for more Dess!
March 8th, 2006 04:47
MORE DESS! MORE DESS! MORE DESS! MORE DESS! LOL ^.^
March 8th, 2006 09:07
I’m sorry Silver am I getting you in trouble *devious* smile. Silver is innocent I’m the one who started it.
March 8th, 2006 12:37
pfft you seem to like getting me in trouble.. but it’s ok.. we still have that pact right.. *wink*
March 8th, 2006 15:48
Yea, bittersweet and all that is artistic or whatever. I don’t care who you are, everyone likes a happy ending. Imagine lotr with the bad guy getting the ring and aragorn and the elf chick not getting together. I have a felling most people like the original ending a lot and do not wish for another sad ending instead. It’s human nature. unless it’s a sad true story like titanic, make us happy scott!
March 8th, 2006 15:59
First off, I would simply like to say, thank you. Midnighters was a fantastic trilogy, and Blue Noon concluded it with one hell of a bang. After rereading Touching Darkness myriad times the weeks before Blue Noon’s release date, I devoured the third book in a couple hours. Needless to say, I was thrilled with it. The action never ceased… at all. Exactly how an adventure story should be. The Beth/Jessica predicament had always fascinated me in the previous books, and I had always wondered how that would be resolved, but never in my wildest dreams would I have expected Beth to slip into Midnight, or anyone else, for that matter. Very cool. The character development for Jessica and Melissa was excellent, and Rex was suitably creepy… understatement of the year. The bittersweet ending was thoroughly entrancing, I honestly couldn’t have laid that book down if my life depended on it. Having Jessica stuck in Midnight was a shocker, but at the same time, a huge relief. I figured she’d kicked the bucket! T’was a little sad. Can you imagine having only fifteen days pass for you, but a year for everyone else?
Possibly the only thing that really irked me was the severe lack of Dess, surprise-surprise, favorite character, quite contrary to Touching Darkness. Other than that, five stars, Scott. I loved it. If there are any more books to come in the series, I shall eagerly await them. If not, then HOLY CRAP, that was an amazing trilogy.
You genius.
March 9th, 2006 08:43
Yeah the pact. *wink*
March 9th, 2006 10:04
I know this topic was a while ago in the comments but about the short story thing. Scott could do blog he’s already got dess’s blog that could keep everybody updated on the happenings in bixby and then he could have melissa or johnathan write a travel blog of everything that been happening to them. and maybe it could be as if they’re not only writing what’s going on but it could be a way to keep the original five midnighters in contact.
March 9th, 2006 11:14
hmm, interesting idea, but i don’t think i’d like to chack blogs all the time to find out what’s happening with our midnighters. I don’t go online that often contrary to all the comments I make may make you think. But about this bittersweet ending.
After awhile it’s less shocking and liveable. But it’s so not conclusive. sooo many questions yet to be answered. why and how did jess get into the bluetime forever? won’t dess figure this out mathematically? It’s like the 5th harry potter book when sirius dies (hope that didn’t spoil it for anyone, if so sorry) and everyone was in shock who read it and were so sad. But at least we all knew 2 more books were still to come and happiness wasn’t suposed to happen yet. it’s like jk rowling ending it all right there. If that happened, no would like that “bittersweet” ending. I’m insulting ppl who liked the ending to midnighters, i understand that you wouldn’t want too happily ever after so it’d be cheesy, but some answers and closure would be nice.
March 9th, 2006 14:19
ok, so……..I’m a bit late for this, and i know it’s a tad cheesy that I’m bringing up the point the other julie brought up, but how IS Jessica goning to travel? When I finished the book like……..3 hours ago, i was wondering about that……….oh well.
About the 4th book thing……………so this actually was a trilogy? I know I’m slow, but when I read the end I thought I was just thinking that because the books with Tally are a trilogy. The end REALLY needs anothe book or something….and it didn’t say the series was a trilogy on the cover anywhere, from what I could see………( I looked when I finished because I thought they actualyy weren’t a trilogy until I read all these comments………..made me a bit depressed…..) so it’s not like people would be like WTF? And even if people knew it was a trilogy, they would just be really happy………..
WHY DO TRILOGY’S ALWAYS HAVE TO KILL THE MAIN CHARECTOR?!?( or in this case, stick them in a secrect hour so they only live one hour for every day…) I can think of 3 trilogy’s that do that, right off the bat.
1) Wind on Fire
2) Bartemius
3) Abhorsen
and if i sat for awhile i could think of more, but i actually have to go to bed soon…….ugh. well, you know we’ll all love you and send lots of fan mail and……..stuff that you know will make it all worthwhile. : ) Hope I see something on the shelf soon……*nudge nudge*
March 10th, 2006 05:26
Well…I said this, but I liked the ending. And I can’t even imagine what it must’ve been like to write it. Think of all the people you have to make happy, or at least, satisfy.
So, for anyone who isn’t really sure how he/she feels yet, maybe this will help: Yes, it was an ending, but there wasn’t any real finality to it. I mean, no one’s dead (well, not really), so high five on that one. And just ’cause they’re separating for a bit, doesn’t mean they’ll never see each other again. And there’s always a chance poor Jessica will find a way out- not to mention she’ll stay young for a long, long time. Take that Dr. 90210. So, glass half full, right? Maybe? I don’t know.
And I really love the divisions at the end: Melissa/Jonathan and Dess/Rex. I feel like we didn’t get much from those pairs throughout the novels- I may be completely, completely wrong, but work with me- and I was always kind of curious about them. So, now they can get to know each other on a different level, away from the normal Midnighter dynamics…I’ve been thinking way too much about this.
March 10th, 2006 11:28
Yeah, so you have some really good points mich. There are some interesting pairs now that’d be cool to see. And it was an awesome ending to the book. I’m saying it’s just not over. Like you said, Jessica could somehow escpe secret hour, and they could all meet again one day. But we don’t know how is what the problem is. There’s too much to put to the imagination. Lots of details too mind boggleing to answer oneself. I have too many theories going in my head about what will happen and I want the chance to find out if I am close to right.
“Some see the glass as half-empty. Some see the glass as half-full. I see the glass as too big.” -George Carlin
(I love George Carlin
)
March 10th, 2006 12:28
scott alreedy saide how jessica will travel up the top
March 11th, 2006 06:36
I was sobbing at the end. I have to admit as much as I LOVE these books I was pissed at the end but then again not every book can have an happy ending(I wasn’t expecting one though, seriously)
just glad no one died
Scott, you left to many unanswered questions! So Melissa and Rex will never see eachother again? Jessica and Beth?
I guess you can’t really answer them.
These would make awesome movies!
March 11th, 2006 23:27
OMG! I cried..ok the only other book that’s done that to me is like…chicken soup for the pet lovers soul! WAH! I totally thought Jess Died and was about to kill over and die myself, I mean John without Jess! What the hell…then when I found out everyone was leaving it was like what about REX AND MELISSA!!! Oh the wah-age…..But otherwise I was so impressed with the ending and will be happy more midnighters book or not…thanks scott for this amazing story!!!!
March 12th, 2006 01:10
Alright, it took me a while to finish, but in the last chapter, I’ll admit it, I cried like a baby. Although, my crying wasn’t entirely because of the characters in the books. See, I went through something sort of similar with my older sister a little over a year ago. I had no idea what was going on at first, just that I needed to get to the hospital. It turns out she had had a massive brain hemorrhage due to a vein malformation on the left side of her brain. I really thought I might’ve lost her while she was in surgery that night, sort of like how Beth really had thought that Jessica was gone forever. The little bit about Jess doing everything with her left hand was just too coincidental, because my sister pretty much lost her mobility on the right side of her body, to this day she still can’t open her hand independantly. But both my sister and Jess were really still there, just changed phenominally.
I’m not sure why I told you all of that, but I thought Scott might want to know how really deeply he touched one of his fans.
Amanda
P.S. Something really crazily coincidental is that I’m in marching band too, though I’m not a twirler like Beth, I play trombone. I just thought that was weird.
March 12th, 2006 15:11
Scott, I was just wondering when you are going to add jessica into ‘Dess’s crew’
March 12th, 2006 15:13
Okay, i have posted alot on this particular blog entry, but there are some things that need to be said. I just want to let scott know that this series has affected the way my life functions, im serious! im not trying to be over dramatic. I have taken to counting the letters in long words, and i avoid using 12 letter words in my homework assignments, and i try to use a 13 letter word everyday. Also, i have began to look at the stamps and stuff on metal materials, and if they are like stainless steel and stuff i think about how i could modify them to make them into weapons against darklings. AND i have given all of the knifes in my knife block (which happens to be just like the one Rex used to defend Melissa and himself against the darklings and the halfling in the 2nd book) 13 letter names! I need help, i know, but oh well. Just thought you should know scott, how much this series has affected me, and i hope that i will get the chance to read more, im going to go now, and try and find a substitute book to read, because i need something to fill the hole that midnighters has left in my life.
March 13th, 2006 07:08
hey, i was just wondering about something, who’ s the person on the cover of blue noon supposed to be?
March 13th, 2006 08:30
Hmm, traveling has left me a bit behind on this vast comment thread. I probably am not getting to ALL your questions, but I’ll try:
John H:
The fact that they show up later than Rex (who was late by design) for his meeting with Angie didn’t seem likely
I think the Greyfoots were watching and waiting for Rex to show. They wanted to capture him outside of Bixby; they could get Angie any time.
the resulting chase was even more of a stretch (a Mercedes that can’t catch someone doing only 85? – they should have had them within a few seconds).
Yeah, I see your point. As I was writing it, I was thinking that they didn’t want to force him off the road on the highway, where other cars would see the wreck and call 911. Also, they couldn’t risk killing Rex—remember: the Greyfoots don’t know that they can’t make another halfling.
That’s the thing. The Grayfoots don’t have anyone left to explain the blue time to them, so their planning isn’t so hot. They were hoping to chase Rex off onto a lonely stretch of road, which isn’t a GREAT plan, but I think they’d really counted on cornering him in the alley at the beginning. (But of course, he was expecting to have another car appear, so they didn’t catch him unawares.)
Mich:
And I really love the divisions at the end: Melissa/Jonathan and Dess/Rex. I feel like we didn’t get much from those pairs throughout the novels- I may be completely, completely wrong, but work with me- and I was always kind of curious about them. So, now they can get to know each other on a different level, away from the normal Midnighter dynamics…I’ve been thinking way too much about this.
Yeah, one thing that was great about writing the Midnighters is that the characters did all the work. Like, I mostly just set up the situation, then started pairing (and tripling) them into various configurations, and let the clashing egos do the rest. And of course every book ends with all five together—always an explosive situation.
So I do think that the combinations at the end would be fruitful. (That’s why I liked Melissa and Jess having a chat in Blue Noon; they’d never really hung out alone together.) So IF more Midnighters happens, it will be interesting.
Amanda:
See, I went through something sort of similar with my older sister a little over a year ago.
Wow, that’s really intense. When movies and books remind me of the way my mother died (cancer, which changed her personality at the end) it’s extremely emotional for me. Sometimes I can’t get through it, but at the same time, it feels like it does let me take out those buried emotions again and “look” at them, which is a good thing in the long run. (Even though I look like a dork for crying in The Hours.)
Korbe:
AND i have given all of the knifes in my knife block (which happens to be just like the one Rex used to defend Melissa and himself against the darklings and the halfling in the 2nd book) 13 letter names
OMG, that is hilarious! But I really like it when my brain picks up 13-letter words automatically. It’s like doing Soduku or crosswords: I think it’s good for your mental fitness.
i need something to fill the hole that midnighters has left in my life.
Ahem, Peeps cough, cough.
March 13th, 2006 08:53
I will definately get Peeps and So Yesterday next time I spend several hours in the young adult section (see uglies in the new york times post if ur confused) and i will be getting specials the day it comes out (if not earlier like this time, because the book stores dont bother with release dates). So i guess i will be ok for now, i will have something to temporarily fill the hole (that is until you finally cave and write more midnighters books ^.^) So thank you once again Scott, for bringing the best books in the world to us!
March 13th, 2006 09:22
Oh and Scott, i was also wondering if you could possibly post something with a tridecagram, because i have googled and yahooed and i have attempted to draw one, and have failed miserably, and i want one sooooo bad, so if you could possibly post one on the site, or anything, that would be the best. Much love, peace out!
March 13th, 2006 09:30
Hey, maybe I will. Until then, check this out:
http://home.zonnet.nl/zefdamen/Reconstructions/WestStowell03/weststowell2003en.htm
March 13th, 2006 11:39
More BOOKS!! MORE BOOKS! MORE BOOKS!!!!!
CHANT WITH ME!!
March 13th, 2006 12:14
Well, Mr. Westerfeld, I must say that Blue Noon was AWESOME. It completely lived up to my expectations (even though the last chapter made me want to cry a whole lot). I thought the Jess/Lightning thing was really clever; I liked how it was causally mentioned in the first book and then used again at the climax of the series.
No more Midnighters to look foward to anymore though… *sob*
*cough*AnotherbookwouldbeamazingandmakeallofusreallyhappyandI’m
sureyou’resickofhearingthisbutIthoughtIwouldputmytwocentsinanyway*cough*
Hmm, I must being getting a cold or something… 0:)
March 13th, 2006 16:20
Scott, I loved all of your midnighters triliogy. I recently finished the 3rd one and gosh, it sure killed my mood. I was depressed cuz of the ending. It still is great book and it leaves me yearning for more. I have a feeling theres more book coming , right? It sucks cuz we had to wait for so long for another book to come. Anyways, great work, scott! keep it up winkz!
March 14th, 2006 12:02
OMG thanks scott! that totally rocks, im going to go try and draw that! (which will be quite the task concidering that i cant draw to save my life! lol) but it think that when i get good enough at drawing them, i draw one on a posterboard and cut it out with my exacto knife named “psychosomatic” ^.^ and put it on my door. thanks though for responding so quickly, it really shows that u care about ur readers! thanks!
March 14th, 2006 13:45
Ok, i am probably totally crazy here, but w/e i dont care. I am feeling totally Dessish and have decided to make a painting in Dess’s honor. I am making a huge 13 degree circle (its like a circle made out of 13 degree angles) and im making sure that none of the angles are devisable by 12 (if they are im not putting them in the painting). and then im making all kinds of patterns and groups and clusters of 13 and multiples of 13 (kind of like when dess showed jessica how to make weapons). Of course it will never be nearly as mathy as dess is, cause she knows all of the old things and mythology and calenders. So im kind of outnumbered here when it comes to that kind of thing, but i still think its really cool. So if anyone comes up with ideas for the painting let me know. And when its finished i will send it to you scott. Thanks everyone!
March 14th, 2006 15:18
Korbe C:
Wait till you see my next post. It’s going to be tridecalicious.
March 15th, 2006 08:16
I was a little confused by the end, what happened, how did Beth get into the blue time did she trun into a midnighter?
March 15th, 2006 09:49
Totally awsomeness! Im excited! yea, i just figured out that my full name has 13 letters! so if anyone else does, let me know! ttyl ^.^ and i cant wait for the next post!
March 15th, 2006 16:16
maybe this was answered somewhere in the book…..but how does the new global midnight work with time zones and the International Dateline? Would the blue time come when it isn’t actually 12 am in most places?
March 15th, 2006 19:18
When I first picked up the series I was a little worried because it sounded like such a fantastic idea, and I’ve been burned before by by writers who weren’t able to come up with plot and characters that are as good as their initial idea. Damn was I wrong – and never happier to be wrong.
I loved the ending – it was how the Buffy season finale was supposed to feel like. I’m so looking forward to all kinds of good and bad fanfic and (hopefully) TV shows and most especially any other awesome Midnighter novels that may be forthcoming (knock on wood).
I really liked that the series was very much a sci-fi/fantyasy hybrid. There are so few sci-fi novels out there for kids and teens, but tons of fantasy, so it’s nice to see something different. It’s also nice to see a sci-fi novel that isn’t all about the horrors of technology. I loved how Midnighters set up curiosity and cleverness as part of the essense of humanity and how math and science and inteliigence was needed to win in the end, right along with bravery, self-sacrifice, and all of the Midnighter’s various talents.
March 16th, 2006 01:54
I must say a was a bit saddened with how the trilogy ended, you really felt your helt being ripped when Jessica and Beth are saying goodbye to each other, you could almost hear a soft melodramatic music of a movie like James Horner. The book does end with a lot of questions that are needed to be answered.
I don’t believe Scott will let poor Jessica be trapped in there all her life. I believe and I will probably be told that it will never happen is that, I was thinking of ideas for what the nexttrilogy could intell, maybe a more bigger setting like New York City or L.A. and in one of these cities lies a powerful darkling unlike anything we’ve seen in the original trilogy, with the ability to bring midnight whenever he or she wishes and another, more war is brewing that will require Jessica, Jonathan, Melissa and a whole slew of new Midnighters to ban together to rid this war from coming.
Now, I will probably get reamed for this, Just like at the end of the battle in Blue Noon, I was thinking somewhere along the lines where like they discovered that this powerful being holds the key to releasing Jessica, but not without a price, maybe Jonathan would sacrifice himself in order to save Jessica from the blue world. Once she is freed, she returns to Bixby where it is Beth’s high school graduation, she is the valedvictorian( I know I may have spelled that wrong) up at the podium giving a speech inside the gymnasium, Sitting with her parents is Dess who still wears the glasses on behalf of the class, in this speech she mentions her big sister, to wherever she may be, Beth let’s everyone know that she meant so much to her, tears rolling down her face, voice shaky as she reads it and just as she is about to finish, she looks off to her side and sees a certain someone standing at a door, already dressed for the occasion, holding some flowers for her little sister. Beth is speechless and blinks her eyes, thinking she is dreaming this or maybe the blue time as come again.
But no, this if for real. Dess and the parents stand slowly to their feet seeing her for the first time in how long.
Beth in her cap and gown walks down the steps, body shaking with fear, not knowing if she is really there. She evens sees the bracelet is gone for Jessica buried it with Jonathan. As the two sisters see each other face to face, tears streaming down her face, Jessica speaks first. “Hey kiddo”.
Beth looks around the room, making sure no one has frozen. “If it’s not midnight, than I must be dreaming this”
“Trust me, your not dreaming”, says Jessica.
Atat the moment, usingnow bother her arms, Jessica pulls her little sister together, holding her so tight, as they both breakdown in tears of joy and laughter. Her mother and father come to the side, the look of shock on their faces and then they both embrace her and now they cry as well as a family is reunited.
Dess still at her seat wipes away a few tears for this joyous occasion.
“Why don’t you go back and get your diploma, maybe afterwards you could cook some spaghetti for me” says Jessica.
Beth wiping away her tears says, “you got a deal”
That’s just some kind of ideas that I was thinking on, I hope Scott doesn’t go ballistic on me for writing that or sue me, you can delete it if you like, I’m just a big fan of the books and I love to write, I’m sure you can understand when you got a passionate story in your mind and heart, you got to write it down. And I believe that at some point in the future, the tales of the midnighters will once again rise from the mind of Scott Westerfeld.
March 16th, 2006 07:52
Thanks so much for your kind words Mickle.
how does the new global midnight work with time zones and the International Dateline? Would the blue time come when it isn’t actually 12 am in most places?
The Blue Time would sweep around the earth, just like midnight does. The area would be 15 degrees across (1/24 of 360 degrees). At the front edge time would freeze, and at the trailing edge it unfreezes, a subjective hour later. This is what always happened in Bixby, but the town’s so small that the blue time rushed through (and out) almost instantaneously. Although Dess has noticed it “moving” in.
Carl:
OMG! That is the most elaborate post yet! You’re almost in the realm of fan-fic there. Which is fine with me, btw. You should never feel like anyone has the right to stop you from thinking past the limits of a book. It’s great to see people imagining futures for my characters.
March 16th, 2006 08:27
Hey Scott, just read you reply and I have to say YOU MADE MY DAY!! It really means a lot coming from a professional author to say something so incredibly nice. I’m just so entranced of these books and the uglies trilogy, I keep kicking myself why I haven’t discovered you in the past. I’m hoping to some day make it to Hollywood to sell my screenplays or if that didn’t work to try novels just like young adult fiction. It has always fasciantes me to see teenagers being protrayed as heroes whether it’s fantasy or real life, when we live in a world were some teens have either turned to a life of crime or drugs, never seeing their full potential at what they are ever capable of doing.
Again thanks and who knows maybe someday I could write a screenplay on one of your books.
March 16th, 2006 10:35
So Scott, I don’t understand what you mean when you said what happens to the bluetime at midnight now that the whole world has midnight. Unless I completely misunderstand, (which is possible) theoretically, couldn’t that mean if jessica found a way to travel fast enough, she could always live in the bluetime? I mean, it’s always midnight somewhere isn’t it? If so, then that’s good cause Jessica would age normally with the rest of the original midnighters. Wait, that doesn’t make sense does it? No, I don’t think this could work. But maybe if thought through a little more, it could. If she figured out each time zone and went there everytime midnight was about to end in her current zone, she could step into the next and then have another hour of midnight. This theory could work, couldn’t it?
March 16th, 2006 11:56
what I want is MORE BOOKS!!! just like everyone else I guess…whatever. Also what would be BAD ASS is if we could buy 13 pointed stars like they have in the book i mean who would want to be caught without that during midnight??? Also the tv series would be awesome I love supernatural. And if Midnighters was a tv series I would pee my pants. And when I heard the prospect of the new book I just about screamed! And more Dess would kick some major physcokitty ass!
March 16th, 2006 12:45
wait, breta had a point! a seriously good point!
If they continued to travel (and melissa got over her hand holding thing) and they only went into daylight to sleep and stuff (you cant expect all them to stay awake forever). Then they would be able to stay in midnight for longer periods of time. Cause midnight sweeps over the globe, like the light from the sun does. So if they continued to move in the direction of the sweep, and went fast enough, they could stay in midnight longer, Which would allow them to travel alot farther! Does that make sense? well im posting this on the other midnighters thread too, just incase people (scott) stop reading this thread
March 16th, 2006 13:37
Yes, that could work. The problem is, they’d have to move about 1000 miles an hour. You see, they’d have to circle the globe every 24 hours, and the world is 24,000 miles around. (I guess if they lived near the north pole it would be easier.)
Even Jonathan doesn’t so more than 60mph.
March 16th, 2006 13:41
Man! I thought i had something! o well, back to the tridecapainting, thanks for responding so quickly! buh bye!
March 16th, 2006 14:12
well, they could do the north pole thing with johnathan possibly, but i was thinking technology to travel. Jessica is the flame-bringer. Coudn’t she power a car, or even some sort of jet or jet pack thing that they could learn to fly? then they could travel quickly through midnight. if whats-his-face can travel around the world in 80 days in like a balloon, then can’t modern technology get them around the world in a day?
March 17th, 2006 06:43
I’m still processing the ending…but I have a question. Ok so now that the blue time has spread what happens (even in Bixby) to someone who dies and is brought back by machines (sorry dont know the proper name for it, my English isn’t that good) to life at midnight? Midnighter or not? Could this mean that someone can become a midnighter even if they were not born as one? If yes then maybe Rex and Dess will have some company if there is any more books to come *wink wink*.
March 17th, 2006 07:10
Good point, Joanna. What does happen when someone gets brought back to life at midnight? Also, I was reading about how someone had 13 letters in their full name. If you don’t count my middle one, I have TWELVE letters in my full name. What a disappointment.
I bought the book (last one on the shelf!) and was so shocked when Jessica became part of the secret hour. Something a bit sad happens in every trilogy that comes to mind (and I got an award for how many books I’ve read). Please don’t let something like that happen to Tally!
March 17th, 2006 10:47
I beg to differ on the unhappy trilogy thing. The end of the original starwars was happy. It was cute and everything was explained and conclusive and they all had a party with the ewoks.
March 17th, 2006 14:15
I appreciate your opinion Breta, again was just an idea, I’m sure Jessica and Jonathan could both return to Bixby and they could live happily ever after. The Half-Darkling finally leaves Rex, returning to his normal self and gets back together with Melissa and most definately Dess having a great bigger part. At the time I wrote that I was so saddened at how Jessica saying goodbye to her sister Beth it really hit me in my gut, that I was thinking of a reunion of the two at some sort of special occasion. I’m sure Scott has the ultimate vision in mind should he do more books. Again thanks for your opinion.
March 18th, 2006 15:35
But Scott don’t you think it would be awesome if we could get 13 pointed star on the sight. I mean everyone wouldn’t that be cool and considering what Breta said that does actually make a lot of sense and would be a good idea.
March 18th, 2006 17:29
I just headed over here for the first time to post how great this book and the whole trilogy was/were! It was a sad ending, but it fit really well; the only thing I don’t get is why Jessica can’t just step back into normal time via the red Rift area that’s still there. If she were half in midnight and half in the rift, half of her would still be able to get hit by sunlight in the morning and presto! Or would that not work somehow?
One thing I didn’t really get though was how the Lightning basically solved everything though. Dess said it was impossible to figure out basically, but still, I mean; the lightning just happens to be there, okay I’ll buy that, but how exactly did it happen to solve the spread of the rift? Isn’t adding more energy to the reaction just going to make it go faster really? Or does the ‘light’ somehow undo the thing that the Darklings did in the beginning to make the Blue Time?
Ooooh, and another thing; there could be tons of possibilities for new books in this series, because not only is there all of the stuff above that people commented on for continuation material; but think of the 100000 new Midnighters Dess said there should be! And then think how many Mindcasters there would be, and what happened back in little Bixby… and how hard it would be to govern any of that! There is another thing though that I thought would get more touched on in this book from the last one, since I thought Dess’ uncovering of the maps and whatnot would lead her to another actual little Bixby or something on the globe; what happened to the places where the Blue Time occured before at? Since Bixby was the start of the rift, and then Midnight ’spread’ *almost* everywhere, could that mean the places that were just Midnight before go all Rift-y and become a Darkling haven?
And one last thing, since the Eclipses were the trigger, couldn’t it all just happen again? Or couldn’t Jessica be freed by one? Okay, awesome book and if anyone has ideas/answers on my comment(s) please reply!
March 19th, 2006 09:41
Hey, i just wanted to let anyone who is terribly lost without anymore midnighters books and needs something to temporarily fill the hole (that was me at the beginning of the blog) that So Yesterday is absolutely amazing! i finally found it and its really great, so give it a shot, you wont be dissapointed. And im saving up for peeps, which i hear is phonaminal. So yea, i hope that i helped anyone with a huge gaping hole that midnighters once left! lol. ^.^
March 19th, 2006 15:03
Yeah Korbe is right! So Testerday was amazing and I couldn’t get enough of Peeps. I mean the twist and turns and surpises they both held are amazing Scott we love you, make more books and just mabye we will leave you alone…. wait that’ll never happen. SO PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! more midnighters and I can’t wait till Last Days comes out and how much is Cal and Lace in this one because I want to know how their love is blossoming and wat about that cat Cal has hows that fattie doing???
March 20th, 2006 04:50
AWWW MAN everything i was gonna say about the books has already been said.*BIG sigh* okay so im just gonna say some of it anyway,
1. great book, i loved the character dianamics, and the ending was pretty good but yet sad and posed a ton more questions
2. PLEASE O PLEASE O PLEASE WRITE MORE Midnighters books they are one of my top three book series
3. I feel bad for Beth, but at least she got to see jess one last time….
4. meanies u guys already mentioned the whole travleling dilema and the jess just going from one midnight to another
Well those are my thoughts directly on the book, but now i have to ask Scott do you have a thing against happy couples? Rex and Melissa seperated, Jess stuck in the secret hour so she is only nineteen when Jonathan is dying, and the whole David/Tally/zair madness *sigh* Well please Just write more books PLEASE.
March 20th, 2006 11:19
O ya i was just reading the book again today and i noticed a slight technical problem, in the end when Jess and Jonathan are rushing toward Pegasus, they stop for a moment with dess, Jess hands Dess the highway flare so she can llght the fireworks when the red time comes, and jess and Jonathan fly on so jess can do the whole lighting thing,
But wouldnt the flare go out the minute Jess let go of it? how was dess able to use it to light the fireworks. Maybe im just stupid and i have no clue what im talking about but if someone knows how this is possible please tell me.
March 20th, 2006 11:27
I just finished Blue Noon a few hours ago. It’s great, and I wish I hadn’t read it so fast, but I couldn’t put it down. The Secret Hour was the first book of yours that I read, so it’s kind of weird for the series to be over. I must say that I love your sense of humor, there were a ton of excellent jokes in Blue Noon. The epilogue kind of freaked me out at first ’cause I thought Jessica had lost her hand or died or something equally awful. I’m glad she didn’t.
I’d love more Midnighters if you want to write it, but for me it’s more important that you keep writing and I get to keep reading what you write, whatever series it is.
March 20th, 2006 11:33
Allianne-
A quick note here: flames stay lit in the rip. Or had the rip not gotten there yet? If so, it was bogus of me. (Maybe the rip was a bit ahead of the darklings. Ahem.)
March 20th, 2006 14:03
Hey Carl, I liked your possible ending. i don’t think I said anything about it did I? Well, I liked it, just so you know. It was cute how they reunited. I don’t know if cute was what you were going for but there you go. That’s my opinion.
Alianne, that was cool that you were thinking about the jess traveling thru midnight thing too! I know scott answered it, but i still think it’d be possible. oh wells. he’s sort of in charge of the little world he created, so there you go.
I just found out my sister thinks i’m a dork for going on this blog about a book.
March 21st, 2006 00:24
Hey Breta, my bad I read your blog and thought it was directed at me I had said on a possible trilogy idea and you said it was a unhappy trilogy thinking you were upset on Jonathan dying for Jessica being freed. So no biggie, but glad you liked it anyway:)
March 21st, 2006 15:44
did anyone realize that we have almost gone to 200, i think we should set a record. lol. Yea i posted this on the other thread like a while ago, and noone answerd it, so im going to post it again. I know its kinda mathy, but maybe someone could figure it out. i hope so, so here goes:
Hey Scott, i know i already asked you about the 13 pointed star, but i have yet another question for my tridecapainting. You created Dess, so you invented her mathiness, so maybe you can figure this out. What about the numbers 156, 312, 468, 624, ect. That are muliples of 12 and 13, like 156 is 12×13. and 312 is 24×13. Are they pro or anti darkling numbers? cause im wondering weather i should include angles and things with those numbers in the painting. Please, if you get the chance, answer that question, cause it would totally rock! Thanks!
March 22nd, 2006 06:06
This is now my favorite last line of a book: “It was way cool, being the one who did the math.”
March 23rd, 2006 11:55
oh yeah I loved that line too. And Scott ur humor through out all your books is the best especially the way u made dess joke around. But seriously what about my other comments I really want an answer!
March 24th, 2006 16:04
Nope Scott i just reread the book to double check, the rip hadnt gotten there yet *gives scott a patt on the back* its ok we all make errors here and there,
Ya Breta it would be cool, but as u said this is scotts world and he rules all. Oh well maybe he’ll write another book and we can get jess back in the normal time with the rest of us. One can only hope.
March 25th, 2006 10:45
there’s always hope, if pandora’s box has anything to say about it. Dude, Korbe, I hope scott answers on those crazy numbers. That’s mind-boggling. I’m curious, what would Dess say?
March 25th, 2006 11:10
seriously! im totally mathy right now, lol.
March 25th, 2006 16:36
Yeah Korbe thats actually really interesting and what about urs and mine (but my idea) 13 pointed star thing where u can buy them on the site has Scott answered yet???
March 26th, 2006 04:13
i dont think he has, but oh well. Its not his job to answer every little thing we post, he does a great job communicating with us, but sometimes he might need to concentrate on his writing and stuff. So i totally respect the fact that he might be too busy to answer all of my many many questions. lol. Thanks
March 26th, 2006 16:55
Oh. My. God.
Write, Scotty, write! We WILL buy your books, and you will be successful. Smell the MON-AY.
But yeah, it seems you gave me a strong case of Westerfieldia. I’m depressed (and will be for a few days until it wears off), but I’m also very happy for the prospect of a new book. Not to sound overly sure, but if you hadn’t felt the need for a new book you wouldn’t have teased us.
And I know another motivation for you to write.
Every time you delay those books, more poorly written fanfics come out! And you know what they say about that? For every bad fanfic written, God kills a kitten.
Atrociousness!
March 26th, 2006 17:11
kirri do u realize that westerfieldia is a thirteen letter word (even though its westerfeld, but i dont think i could make it work as a 13 letter word unless its spelled westerfield.)! sorry, my desslike part of my brain is in overdrive. lol
March 26th, 2006 19:57
Yeah Korbe ur write ha can’t reply to everything he has to focus on certian aspects and also his writing **(hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge)**
March 27th, 2006 03:50
*korbe punches the air and whisper screams YES!* lol
March 27th, 2006 10:00
Latinus!
March 27th, 2006 10:33
Yea! My friends are starting to read midnighters! that means i can talk to them about it instead of faceless people on this blog. No offense, of course, to any one here. but, you know. They like them! And how could they not?
March 28th, 2006 03:30
we get it cavio, you are speaking latin!
March 28th, 2006 09:19
mors ad tu!!!
March 28th, 2006 12:47
only 9 more! come on people make it to 200!
March 30th, 2006 05:07
aaahhh the ending made me cry. i hate that Melissa is leaving Rex! i LOVE that couple!! and then jess getting stuck in midnight?!!? and the fact that johnathan will die way before jess is even aged to like 21. thats so sad. =( and Dess is going to be in Bixby for 2 years all my her lonsome. i think its sad. *sigh* well lets just hope that you right another book!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 30th, 2006 13:32
Okay, if you are not going to write any sequles then could you wriet a PREqual. Maybe Melissa finding Rex and dess and what happened before Jessica?
March 30th, 2006 13:35
It’s not fair!! Melissa would NEVER leave Rex. And if she did rex wouldn’t let her go that easily. the LOVE each other!!
March 30th, 2006 14:09
hi
March 30th, 2006 14:10
i am
March 30th, 2006 14:11
posting
March 31st, 2006 10:18
mindless
March 31st, 2006 10:18
junk
March 31st, 2006 10:19
to set a record of 200 posts
March 31st, 2006 11:09
Ya 200! well now 201!!
March 31st, 2006 15:01
YAY! we did it! i do believe we have set a westerblog record ladies and gentlemen! *claps* yay for us!
April 1st, 2006 09:00
saweet!
April 1st, 2006 09:08
200! that’s coolio!
even tho my friends are starting to read midnighters, i can’t leave this blog forever. i missed you guys (lol) jk, i’m not that lame-o. but seriously, i just took a long break from midnighters. i’ve been sick. this is a nice refresher. but seriously, when nothing to do, i gotta go here. that’s not lame is it? nah
April 1st, 2006 15:28
so, i have to mention this cause it just came to me as i was doing this fun worksheet thing for school. But there are 13 stripes on the American flag. That rocks man! There are 13 to represent the 13 original colonies, but possibly it was to protect America! Even though Oklahoma wasn’t part of it yet. But w/e. Just a lame thought. I know it’s not true but go USA!
April 2nd, 2006 06:02
totally! i forgot that! and no breta ur not lame, i go here everyday, that makes me a deticated fan (i dont think this makes you lame, this is the best place ever! not to mention the fact that its like an insult to Scott to say ur lame cause u come here everyday, not that u insulted Scott, im confused!) ^.^! Yea, and i freaked out last night cause i just got this new bike, and it has 36 spokes! 12×3=36! but they are made out of steel, so i didnt know if that would make me safe or not. And the rims are made out of alloys, so yea i think my bike is pretty darkling proof, but still, 36 spokes, im kinda scared. :/
April 2nd, 2006 11:01
ur right korbe, i belong here man. oober dedicated. i can’t just leave. it’d be like calling starwar people lame. it’s obsessive sometimes, but awesome. i’m not that hardcore to starwars tho. i mean, i don’t have outfits, just a t-shirt. Dude! I should make a midnighters t-shirt. just gotta find a cool pic. ooh yeah! a project! man, that’s a toughy with the 36 thing. but 39 spokes would make for an akward bike. for protection tho, all the more reason for for 13-pointed star necklesses. p.s. I’d never insult scott
(scott is not lame, nor are we!)
April 2nd, 2006 11:58
YEA!
April 2nd, 2006 12:00
I do believe that i have made a new friend!
April 2nd, 2006 14:28
goodies!
April 3rd, 2006 06:03
I just finished reading blue noon. I finally gave in and bought in it hard cover. I loved how it ended from Dess’s POV. The entire book kinda made my head spin, mostly the way you ended it. It was left so open that aything could happen. Dark Rex kinda freaked me out though.
April 4th, 2006 10:26
You know what annoys me about my birthday? Its October Sixteenth. October used to be the eightth month, and 8 plus 16 is 24. My birthday is a darkling number. Ironically, my name, Benjamin Irwin, has thirteen letters in it.
April 4th, 2006 12:38
hey guys were at (if I counted correctly) 217!!!!! Go Us!!!!! **********************! asstricks yeah (sorry inside joke i know there but its always funny)
April 4th, 2006 13:16
213* lol its ok jen we all make mistakes
April 8th, 2006 08:43
hello all! long time no talk! my friends are reading this now and they like it a lot! i swear, i’m gonna spread this book all across wisconsin
April 8th, 2006 10:43
Ill go for Arizona! Lets spread Westerfeld around the world!
April 15th, 2006 10:08
Well, i just finished the third book. I loved it, and the ending left me wanted more, pretty much just like everyone else. I would also like to say something about the number 13. I used to hate it. I love even numbers, 13 is just a horrible odd number to me, but after I read the first midnighters book I started to really like that number. Its driving me CRAZY!
April 15th, 2006 10:18
OH yeah, another thing about how Jessica would travel. I thought, when she just “folded” out of the air when midnight came she could appear anywhere. I read the post where it was said that she would probably fly with Jonathon, which would make sence, I just thought I would post my thought on the matter.
April 16th, 2006 00:30
I still don’t like the number 13, but I *do* find 13-letter words interesting. And 13 x 4 = 52, so I like that because there are 52 cards in a deck.
April 16th, 2006 12:49
I felt sad about Melissa leaving Rex, but I thought it gave hope to Dess. In the third book especially she seemed like such a 5th wheel torn between two couples. The mystery in the epilogue was good and suspenseful… for example when they went to Jessica’s house to pick ‘her’ up which ended up being Beth… ya that def. made me stay up reading it… I’ll probably post a longer reply later…
Why does it have to be a trilogy? Can’t there be a few more… make there be five… but then what could a set of five books be called? A quinlogy? Yeah, probably not… That makes me curious though…
April 16th, 2006 13:31
damn i thought it was wrong but whatever**** yeah and i like the quinlogy idea
April 17th, 2006 07:47
I agree with Furyion. When I first read that Jessica “folded” out of the air I thought she could just appear anywhere she wanted to when midnight came again. She doesn’t freeze in place like the darklings do/did during daylight time so I think that could be possible, but I didn’t write the book.
Also, Carl, I don’t know if you’ll see this but I really liked your possible ending for the books. It actually made me cry again (I cried at the end of M3)! But maybe that just because I’m depressed after finishing a really good book like always so I’m a bit histerical today.
April 17th, 2006 11:50
MORE BOOKS PLEASE!! It would be great to find out about other midnighters and not just the five talents we saw in the three books…..and i want to see more Jessica and what happens around the world now since the blue time is expanding!!! It would be soo cool if they went to NYC and found tons of midnighters awakening….PLEASE ONE MORE BOOK…OR TWO..OR THREE!!! BUT I’LL BE HAPPY WITH ONE MORE.. (I know you miss Desssss!!!) lol
April 18th, 2006 01:03
Hey Alicia, Thanks so much for your kind words on my idea, I acually got Scott response saying it was the most elaborate post he had ever seen, he loved it. I wrote it up just after finishing the third book and it too made me feel sad about what happened to Jessica. Especially with Jonathan, it was almost like a death almost, losing someone you love with your whole heart and soul only to find out that she lives but only for one hour a day which to me feels a bit hopeless and of course for Beth, even before moving to Bixby they were the best of friends, always there for one another and then Jessica trapped in the blue world, it just can’t end like that. So I immediately wrote up my idea for another book or trilogy with a much bigger story for an all-out war between thousands of midnighters and a supreme darkling leader and its minions. I hope Scott will have something up his sleeve for more. Again, thanks for your comments, as a guy trying to become a writer himself, it means a lot.
April 18th, 2006 08:07
I cried when Beth and Jessica were together in the secret hour and then when Jonathan said “It’s already lonely” to Dess in the last chapter. It’s just so said. This is the second book in my life that I ever really cried over.
Carl, that’s awesome that you can come up with a continuation of the trilogy like that. I’ve always thought it would be cool to be a writer, but I could never do it. I hope you can become a writer someday and then write great books like Midnighters!
More Midnighters books would be great, Scott, and I know plenty of people would buy them (I would!) but you’ve got to have a break sometime. Also, even if you do write more Midnighters books there has to be an end sometime so then everyone will be sad all over again.
btw, I really did like the ending of Blue Noon even though it was sad. It was completely different that I thought it might be.
April 18th, 2006 14:56
Well, i’m really glad that someone got the same idea that i did about Jessica “folding” out of the air.
April 22nd, 2006 14:40
Can’t you just like, add another book and make it a quad-trilogy or something?? I didn’t quite understand the ending of how she got stuck in the 25th hour, and I didn’t like how they all left Bixby. But since they left to look for more midnighters, I wanted to know more!!! Oh well…. I felt such a tie to these books because I live in Broken Arrow. I guess I would have been stuck if Jessica hadn’t saved me by putting her hand in lightning…but still. I want to know more!!
April 23rd, 2006 04:27
I JUST got done reading all three books and it only took me like 2 weeks!! I was HOOKED! I never even heard of Scott! I was just wondering around a borders looking for a new book to start, I was hoping for something with Vampires in it AND THEN I seen “the midnighters” And I HAD to buy them!
NOW I want a 4th like the rest of you! SO many un answered questions, I’ve already been day dreaming about how the 4th could go.. but I’d rather not share my ideals lol! I also was thinking wouldn’t it be cool if there was like a movie or TV show based on these books! DANG! That would be AWSOME! I can picture it now ALREADY!
The ending of Blue Noon was AMAZING! I was expecting Rex to die or something or become a complete darkling! I never expected it to be Jessica! It was one of the most mind blowing endings EVER! And it really makes you think ALOT! And it really sticks with you! I mean She is going to be stuck there and wont even really be able to be with Jonathon or her Family! She’ll never have a normal life! That’s depressing! So IF there is a 4th one I think Jessica should some how get out of the blue time!
April 23rd, 2006 06:29
I agree. If they made a movie of Midnighters like they could with SO Yesterday, that could be realy sweet. The only thing is I would be afraid of how they make the darklings look, I don’t want it to be cheesy.
April 23rd, 2006 12:13
Yeah lol… I think with todays technology and Scotts brillian creative mind the Darklings wont look to bad!! lol… I just think if there was a T.V. show or somethin it would be TOTALLY original!! I dont think there has ever been a show like these books! You have Charmed, Smallville, Buffy, Angel, super natural and tons of other but none of them are anything like The midnighters! lol… I know it would never happen but still it’s cool to dream! lol
April 27th, 2006 09:38
ok, about the folding thing with jessica, no offense to anyone, but wouldn’t that not work? like, she never freezes from her point of view. so she’d, like, never would have that extra time to travel. it kind of confusing, the ending of the book, but i got the impression that wherever she is at the end of bluetime, that’s where she has to appear when the next bluetime comes. but it would be cool tho if that’s how she could travel. but w/e.
about a tv show or movie, movie would be sweeter cause then it could be done right w/ a kick-A director and music by like danny elfman or something. it’d rock.
April 27th, 2006 09:40
oh, this is a cute realization i had, my dog just turned 13 the other day.
April 28th, 2006 07:35
Well whats left to say other than 4th book please?
April 28th, 2006 07:39
which has already been said a couple of times.
April 28th, 2006 07:42
Hey Carl what a coincidence i really like writing as well and i too have come up with another book continuation idea. Maybe you could email me sometime and we could exchange ideas. Maybe even exchange them with Scott himself in a 3 way chat.
Get back at me.
April 28th, 2006 14:29
Anyone other than me reading this whole series over again?
April 28th, 2006 16:18
Wow! Strange Fact of the Day: 43,200 people are born within a second of midnight and it takes 43,200 seconds from midnight to noon, and 43,200 seconds from noon to midnight!
Never noticed that.
creepy…..
April 29th, 2006 00:13
Hey Rob, this is Carl getting back to you. Its cool to meet a fellow writer, someone to share ideads with. My passion is screenplays, i have written two movies that I’m getting ready to send out soon, once I finish rewriting them. Presently, I have been working on a fantastic idea for a comic-book hero that I created on my own with its own city, villians, etc. But I am looking for a partner to help me breathe life into this character, so if you interested, let me know. As for Midnighters, I did write a little short story of a continuation a while back, it should still be up in here somewhere because it’s pretty big what I wrote. So check it it out if you have not and let me know, tell me your ideas.
See ya
April 29th, 2006 06:06
Hey sounds cool. Of course i’m still in high school, and my aspiration have nothing to do with writing, i’m pretty skilled in all areas. I have always loved writing an recently did a poem about midnighters that if you’ve never read the series still stands by itself. As for screenplays i’m pretty useless but i might be able to help ya out on the comic book front. I did like the little short story alot. Proving once again that great gains don’t come without a great loss. I am still in love with happy endings, but the happy endings can be achieved at the readers total suprise as well. Don’t you think?
Great story, and i’ll probably post the poem in here sometime. I gotta go now but i’ll post some info later.
April 29th, 2006 06:12
i’ll be back in around 6 or 7 hours
April 30th, 2006 18:35
I can’t believe people still post here! I’m so psyched; I just read the book (shut up – Australia is slow) and I was so torn up about the ending! But you guys have already covered that, so I won’t go on about that.
It’s a shame Scott doesn’t read this thread anymore (or does he?!), or at least doesn’t post on it. I had to skim this thread because of the 240 COMMENTS!!! Ah well.
Now, on to Peeps!
May 1st, 2006 10:16
The ending was a little tragic, but I think what happened to Jessica was positive in that it made me think a little more favorably toward her. She was at first your all-american, dull girl, but now she’s a hero.
I think Madeleine deserved what she got.
I think Rex needs a leash.
I think Jonathan needs a new girlfriend. Just jk.
May 1st, 2006 10:18
Yeah, I agree with one of the posters above. There wasn’t enough of Dess. Maybe there weren’t enough ways to weave Dess into the story.
May 1st, 2006 13:00
I like the idea of a sequel. Carl-your idea rocks. it was really heartwrenching, even though it was short, to “see” beth and Jess together. i think it’d be awesome to have like 10 more books in this series. okay, well maybe not 10, but you know what i mean. and, this just came to me, what about a movie? that would be awesome.
May 1st, 2006 13:05
haha hey guys haven’t been on like i said i was anyway here it is.
Midnight
By Rob Mabee
He was old now.
Time had gone by too fast, it seemed.
No longer his once energetic self, he was tired
Yet restless.
Anxious for what awaited him at
Midnight.
He waited instinctively, in the same spot,
Just like always.
Suddenly there she was as beautiful
And as young as ever.
He stood breath taken once again at
Her sudden appearance.
She looked at him softly tonight,
As if knowing how tonight would end.
Those same loving eyes never losing
Their sheen.
A tear ran slowly down her cheek.
He reached out and brushed it away
Gently, hoping to fly one last time tonight.
Trying to muster all the strength she could,
She gave him a smile
“So, where to tonight?”
“O…I don’t know how about atop
That building over there?”
“No, that won’t do…” she said
“Not Tonight.”
“Tonight we’re going over there” she said
Pointing to a field frozen in the moonlight.
“That seems perfect” he said, smiling.
She took his hand in hers, gave him a kiss
And they both took off for one last time into
The Night.
I think its ok. Let me know what ya think.
May 1st, 2006 14:25
its terribly sad. it makes me want to cry. thinking of them like that…..
May 1st, 2006 14:44
i know but thats all i could think of after i read it. Cause thats how they’d really end up if they never save her.
May 1st, 2006 14:51
very sad………. :’(
Still do you think it’s ok?
May 2nd, 2006 05:09
To Rob, I read your poem and it was interesting. I could see it into the future of a much older Jonathan, in his 50’s old and gray waiting for it to turn to midnight and the blue vastness stretching across the Earth. Then Jessica appearing out of the blue, wishing she could break the curse to leave and be able to have aged like Jonathan. It was heartwrenching, but good job.
May 2nd, 2006 11:34
well if it invoked any kind of sadness then i did my job
May 2nd, 2006 13:15
and thanks i’ll take it as a compliment.
May 3rd, 2006 11:20
I think it was amazing rob, dont get me wrong, but its still terribly sad. Good job *tear*
May 3rd, 2006 12:33
Thanks i appreciate it
May 6th, 2006 10:13
a little off topic, but i think aluminum should be stronger than steel. hear me out, aluminum is element number 13 on the periodic tabel and its atomic number is 26, 13 times 2. think about it in your new book(thered better be a new book!).
May 6th, 2006 10:20
I just finished Blue Noon around midnight this previous night. I dreamt that I was a midnighter—but I don’t remember what powers I had.
The sign of a well-written, well-executed plot is that I dream about it. I thought that Jessica had died at first—giving up her life to save humanity from the darklings! But getting hit by frozen lightning (and living) is cool, too.
Rob: I don’t think that Johnathan and Jessica could be like that until Johnathan died. I think that when Johnathan visibly ages, Jessica would insist that he not deprive himself of opportunity at happiness, for they cannot be together—like Lyra and Will at the close of Philip Pullman’s His Dark Materials trilogy.
May 6th, 2006 10:24
Jake: Aluminum is an element that occurs naturally, so darklings wouldn’t be afraid of it. Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon that was invented by humans and is therefore “new” enough to harm the darklings.
Oh, yeah—aluminum’s atomic number is 13, not 26. I think you are confusing atomic number (the number of protons in one atom) with mass number (the number of nucleons—protons and neutrons—in one atom).
May 6th, 2006 15:46
I think they would because jonathan really seemed in love with jess and i gotta say once you find that someone you don’t ever want to let go. It just seemed like he’d be the type to never relinquish the love between them and would find it impossible to be with anyone else because he knows he won’t love them as much as jess……
Or maybe he did have a real life seperate from jess. Just because he has a seperate life doesn’t mean he can’t still see jess ( mostly as firends the way you say it) because his wife would be frozen during midnight. Of course he knew it was his last night so he wanted to spend it with jess (his true love)……
But if you think about it you can pretty much work it either way. I was trying to leave it open, so i do like your view on it. But thanks for your opinion, I like the constructive criticism, but now that it’s explained more how do you like it?
May 6th, 2006 16:09
But then again if you think about it if johnathan is married to another woman but is always going to be a part of blue time then it would be just weird. Knowing that he loved jess once but now couldn’t be with her because of what happened. Sure jess might say that he should be with someone else and be happy (which she wouldn’t mean sincerely, obviously), but i know if it were me i couldn’t betray someone i loved like that. I think that jonathan would tell jess he already was happy… or i could just be romantic…?
Anyway your way still works too, but being the person i am i can’t help but see them stayin together even if it’s only for one hour a day.
Still i liked hearing your opinion, and i still wouldn’t mind knowing how you liked it. If you liked it at all that is… don’t go easy on me either just cause i’m in high school.
May 9th, 2006 21:24
I like the sentiments of the poem, and what it describes. Like, it’s so sad to think of them that way. But the poem isn’t constant, like the stanzas are all different lengths. Also, I feel it’s more like a story, rather than a poem. Does that make sense? I mean I know poems tell stories, but it’s sorta like you wrote a short story and spaced lines into it. But don’t take this harshly, I mean it’s way better than what I can do! I suck at poems.
Maybe you should write fanfic! Woo!
May 10th, 2006 09:10
whats fanfic? Rofl
May 10th, 2006 09:28
it’s has its own structure too. Although its mostly a story and i’m no expert in poetry, its 2 verses geared mainly on jonothan, 2 on jess, and then 2 on their interaction. No extreme structure but subtle hints toward 12, like 6 verses 2 about each. wierd structure but fits into the whole midnighters theme… I wonder if the darklings would like this one? It is free verse however, so there is no strict verse rules
(sweet no rules).
But thanks for the comment.
May 10th, 2006 21:01
Meh.
Fanfic is just fiction written by fans! Lol, more clearly, it’s stories that are based on a book/movie/tv series or whatever. w00t!
May 11th, 2006 09:51
hey did anyone notice that “the secret hour” has 13 letters? haha!
May 11th, 2006 09:54
does anyone know the channel midnighters would be on if it were to be a tv show? and also i wanna read more of those midnighter comics. i like them. their funny and it kinda adds on to the story. also i hated the epilogue on the last book. i wanna another book where jessica finds a way out of the blue time and rex and melissa get together again. maybe it could be another trilogy!
May 11th, 2006 09:54
that would make me very happy
May 11th, 2006 09:55
OMG! There just has to be another book. Otherwise I won’t have a peaceful night until I know what happens to Jessica and the others. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WRITE ANOTHER!
May 14th, 2006 16:50
Damn Rob you got tears to well in my eyes thats for sure. That would be a great to either start or end the next book (most likely end it). So agian love it . It works. Are u/are u gonna be a writer? because that is really good.
May 14th, 2006 17:10
Hey rob for what u said earlier about the 43,200 seconds thing. If u divide 13 into that you get exactly : 3,323.0769230769230769230769. notice a pattern after the point:0769230. Or if you divide the total by 13 you get exactly:
255.62130177514792899408284023669. You loose the patter. But lets see what happens when u divide that pattern by 13 : 59171.538461538461538461530461538. You get the pattern agian. But none of the numbers are divisable by 13. But lets see what happens when u break it down.
769/13=59.153846153846153046153046153846
you get the same pattern when u divided the original pattern by 13.
230/13=1.5384615384615384615384615384615 (same pattern as original when divided by 13.
So still none are divisable by 13 but you keep the pattern freaky even after all the dividing of 13’s you get the same pattern.
May 15th, 2006 06:32
It’s…it’s….a TRILOGY???? You have got to be kidding. I thought there was going to be a forth book or something. Geez. I feel like a ‘tard now. Well, at least I can mark these book off my series list I need to keep track of. But I love the Midnighters books. *tear*
May 15th, 2006 11:53
Wow Jen your way ahead of me on the math front all i was bringing up was in book number one Dess happens to mention that 43,200 are born at midnight and there are 43,200 seconds in 12 hours.
So a person born every 2 seconds if its spread out(of course minus the secret hour
)
May 15th, 2006 11:55
and yes i always kind of had a fantasy about being a writer. Maybe i could get some tips from Scott himself????
(If you even read this post anymore scott.)
May 15th, 2006 12:19
And i forgot to thank you for the compliment so, Thanks I appreciate it
May 15th, 2006 20:36
Woah Jen, steady on. (Math freak)
Lol, just kidding. (Are you really good at math?)
May 16th, 2006 14:33
Hey guys i recently wrote some fanfic. Its right after chapter 31 but before chapter 32 so basicaly where jess dissapears and no one knows where she is but i don’t know where to post it and if it will even fit. Any suggestions?
May 16th, 2006 14:33
Its rediculously long for a fanfic story. I think anyway????
May 16th, 2006 14:40
Jen – YIKES, that is some serious tridecalopatternization!
Rob – I haven’t got a fanfic section (yet), but you can always post send it to Morgan over at “So Not 11:59″:
http://www.geocities.com/thesecrethour/
(Under the “fans” section.)
May 16th, 2006 15:01
Scott you still watching i don’t know exactly what i should do with it so i think i’ll just email it to you and you can do with it waht you like.
May 16th, 2006 15:50
Hey, why do the darklings hate steel but not mind plastic?
May 16th, 2006 15:53
Scott nooooo whered you go. You keep pulling these vanishing acts on me. lol
May 16th, 2006 15:53
Jen, you’re making my head hurt.
May 16th, 2006 15:56
hey alissa what’d you think of my poem?
:p since your here
May 16th, 2006 18:41
Not bad. I write some poetry, but most of my stuff is so vague no one can tell what I’m talking about… I should post one of my midnighter ones on here… Anyway, yeah, your’s is really cool.
May 16th, 2006 19:22
Yo Rob, the point of fanfic is that it’s YOURS!! Do with it what you wish…
May 16th, 2006 22:41
i already gave it to him anyway and sent it in to that other website to so keep checking for it
May 17th, 2006 06:40
On the subject of midnighter poetry, here’s one I wrote:
How can you possibly claim to know how I feel?
Locked behind your walls and steel and countless aversions
As I wander here alone
Forsaken
I’m your nightmare
And sometimes I think you’re mine.
I need to get away, break free
Leave this world behind
It’s so defiled by your clever little tricks and your inventions
It’s all around me and it’s burning at my senses
It’s like a cage…
You don’t know how badly I want to hunt you
How much you deserve to be cut from your herd
You’ll never be a predator
Only a nightmare.
I can taste your fear
Forgotten
you’ve been safe too long
It’s made you careless, easy prey
And still you try to hunt me
Why can’t midnight last forever?
May 17th, 2006 08:10
i’m assuming this is from a darking’s point of view? (hey it could be rex!) interesting…
May 17th, 2006 08:11
i like it but it’s still a little shakey. i think instead of using “It’s so defiled by your clever little tricks and your inventions” take out little and your and the next line “It’s all around me and it’s burning at my senses” seperate the two (it’s all around me —– burning my senses) or just take out and it’s.
I liked it. How old are you? and i’m sorry for criticising your poem like this but you shouldn’t think that i hate it. Just from one poetry writer to another. Feel free to tear mine apart too. I LOVE THE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM THE BEST. (but i like the other kind too) anyway good job maybe reread it and keep improving it. i must have written mine like 10 times before i submitted it and i’m still not sure it’s perfect yet.
May 17th, 2006 08:24
i guess it’s not up yet so if anyone wants to read it before it gets posted then email me at rmabee@stny.rr.com. Just make sure the subject says fanfic story please or something like that so i know. Too many spam emails ;-p.
May 17th, 2006 08:33
Yeah, Halfling point of view. I really lake the way Rex sees things in Blue Noon. Thanks Rob. I’m seventeen.
May 17th, 2006 10:18
thats pretty good. Are you trying to be a writer some day?
May 17th, 2006 10:28
Not really. I write in my spare time. My real talent is in martial arts.
May 17th, 2006 12:41
What kind specifically? Karate, Teakwondo, Washnru? There are some others that i can’t remember. I took Teakwondo for a while but i remember nothing lol
May 17th, 2006 13:51
I’m in Taekwon Do. I’m a red stripe. I also know some Aikido and a little Karate. How far did you get?
May 17th, 2006 14:05
hahaha like the third belt. Long time ago. but the cool thing about it is that i play golf with yes Hidy Ochia himself. If your not sure who that is he was recently indited into the martial arts hall of fame and taught bruce lee how to use numb-chucks.
May 17th, 2006 14:52
Cool. My weapons training is mostly with sais, katana and a few staff styles.
May 17th, 2006 15:04
wow hardcore. OK so remind me never to get in a fight with you. ;-P
May 17th, 2006 21:22
dude! i so want to learn martial arts. sigh that I’m not allowed to (how backward is that?)
man, i’m tired.
May 18th, 2006 15:37
Not allowed? Why not?!!!
May 18th, 2006 16:07
Hey Scott i know you still read this thread so i sent my fanfic into that secret hour fan website a few days agon and still have not gotten a response. Weird? If you know whats goin on let me know. I wish i were more patient. haha
May 18th, 2006 16:43
Rob, I don’t think they check what’s waiting fot that site all that often. Morgan’s, right? Yeah, I sent a picture in and it took almost a month to go up. And my desktop backgrounds still aren’t on there.
May 18th, 2006 16:59
Actually, Morgan just wrote me. She had some sort of computer problem, but it’s resolved and I think stuff will happen soon. (Also, it is the end of the school year.)
May 18th, 2006 17:30
Ok, my apologies to Morgan.
May 18th, 2006 19:15
End of the school year? How strange America is. Lol.
May 18th, 2006 21:12
Hey Scott, is there a lore symbol for darkling?
May 18th, 2006 21:20
Ok just checkin. thanks for lettin me know i know how the end of the schol year trauma is.
May 21st, 2006 00:14
Hey guys(If anyone still reads this),
No one, in all these posts, has mentioned this, so I thought I should bring it up.
I think that darklings can manipulate time.
I was rereading Blue Noon and Rex was explaining how the humans built bonfires on Halloween and that the darklings retreated into the secret hour. Well, before then, there had been 25 hours in a day, right? So for all this to be true, the darklings would have had to take the 25th hour and separate it from all the others and somehow create the blue time. Because they chose to take away one hour, they created our system of 24 hours. Rex can’t stand math, and yet he knows the exact time when the timequake(eclipse) will happen. Darklings don’t mind time because:
There are 60 (12×5) seconds in a minute.
There are 60(12×5) minutes in a hour.
There are 24(12×2) hours in a day.
There are 12(12×1) months in a year.
According to Dess, Longitude and Lattitude lines are also separated into seconds and minutes, so darklings don’t mind distance either.
Dess thinks that something like the Big Bang that created our universe created midnight. Maybe way back in the stone age the darklings caused something big bangish to create the secret hour. But that would be stupid, since then they wouldn’t ever get to eat. That’s why the darklings set up timequakes and created a schedule. So, in a way, Jonathan was right in thinking the darklings made the timequake happen.
Or I could be completely wrong on all of this.
May 21st, 2006 06:12
Yeah, that makes sense. And the fact that they hate thirteen might have something to do with that too (I’ll let someone else figure out the details on that, I’m horrible with math).
May 21st, 2006 15:27
Woah, there are a lot of deep thinkers out there.
I do agree with you, Cass. In the first book I was sort of wondering, ‘So, how did the darklings actually create the blue time?! But if they did, why didn’t they give themselves more time???’ Maybe Scott can answer this… (hint, hint).
And yeah, longitude and latitude are divided into minutes and seconds. Weird, huh?
May 21st, 2006 16:42
It doesn’t matter to the darklings how much of human time they have. It’s all continuous to them. It doesn’t mean they have any less time, it just means that in comparison humans have extremely short lifespans. It’s one of the reasons darklings live so long. Remember how Anathea only aged two years when she was a halfling, over the period of fifty human years? For them, the fact that they only live one hour to a human day just means the unusually annoying midnighters die off relatively quickly.
May 21st, 2006 17:15
Good point. Alissa is right. They only exist for an hour a day to the midnighters but to them it’s continuous. Like when Jess got stuck and didn’t even know that she had been gone a whole day. It even works to their advantage only living 1 hour compared to the midnighters 25, which means they live longer and are harder to get rid of, as they can only be hunted for an hour at a time.
May 21st, 2006 18:08
Interesting. I like.
I wonder how exactly they managed to do it though?
May 21st, 2006 18:33
On that one, your guess is as good as mine.
May 23rd, 2006 10:15
Your right, Alissa, that darklings don’t care about how long normal time is. It’s just interesting that the secret hour is exactly 3600(144×25) seconds long. It follows the same pattern Dess saw in the timequakes(eclipses). I don’t think darkling could stand it if their time didn’t follow that pattern.
May 23rd, 2006 12:47
Maybe in one of the upcoming books rex can reveal a secret into hwo the darklings manipulate time and then the midnighters can use this knowledge to use the blue time against the darklings???? that’d be insane but unlikely.
May 23rd, 2006 12:48
for last post if there is another book???? sorry if i got hopes up
May 23rd, 2006 15:07
Why do the darklings always have to be the bad guys? Really, all they’re trying to do is survive, what’s so wrong with that? As Melissa pointed out in the first book, they were never really at war with the darklings until Jessica showed up. Why couldn’t the midnighters come to some sort of truce with them? They could be a very powerful ally.
May 23rd, 2006 22:38
because they can’t be trusted. The darklings will eventually have to feed and their favorite meal is human.
May 24th, 2006 06:26
Yes, but maybe not midnighter, if they could convince the darklings they’re not going to hurt them, and that they’re strong enough to be worth their time. They accepted Rex pretty quickly when they realized he wasn’t a weak human anymore. All they have to do is prove that they’re worth the darkings attention, and they might be off the food chain.
May 24th, 2006 13:02
He didn’t prove he wasn’t weak. He was just given the chance to be one of them, because he was supposed to be the halfling. And after that if they aren’t going to be attacked, other humans are and i doubt the midnighters would allow this sort of behavior. (i think we’re having a debate we need more input!)
May 24th, 2006 17:55
Ok, maybe my idea isn’t exactly humane or ethical, but it’s possible. Such as, if in the first book they had done as Melissa suggested and left Jessica for the darklings. They could have been back on relatively stable terms with the darklings. Now, if Melissa could find a way to use her mindcasting abilities to communicate with them, they could come to some kind of agreement that involved the darklings not eating midnighters. Hey, the Grayfoots managed it, it would just be easier for midnighters, because they could talk directly to the darklings. When it all comes down, the darklings are terrified of midnighters. no sooner do they manage to get a seperate time all to themselves, but a bunch of humans show up with steel. I’m sure they would be more than willing to come to an agreement whereby the midnighters would leave them alone. The only letdown is that they will occasionally have to eat the odd stiff. Sure, I’m not saying that this is by any means the right thing to do, but it’s totally possible.
May 24th, 2006 18:11
Still the whole point is they can’t eat stiffs or there wouldn’t even be a book at all because everyone would all be dead before it began. The grayfoots managed it bacause they’re stiffs and unable to be eaten which leaves only one choice Midnighters, unless the darklings pull another suck everyone in scheme again. Also the only reason they were on stable terms was because the darklings might have needed them for another halfling so my bet is if things had gone according to plan the midnighters would be toast after rex became the new halfling. i think we’re going to need scott for this one
May 24th, 2006 18:19
I don’t know if that would work. I mean, the darklings really just feel contempt for the midnighters. Like, the really old darklings just KNOW so much; remember when Rex met them in the desert? He was totally overwhelmed with how ‘weak’ he was compared to them. And he was a halfling! I don’t think the darklings are really scared of the midnighters, as there are so few of them. However, they’re probably scared of Jessica, as only she has the power to extinguish them (except in the rips). And now Jess is ALWAYS with them, 25/7 (um, sort of).
Anyway, I think for me to participate in this ‘debate’ I might have to re-read Blue Noon…
May 24th, 2006 20:59
Re my previous comment ^ I was talking about Alissa’s comment, not Rob’s. Rob, why did you have to post before me?!?!
May 24th, 2006 22:06
Dudes, I am watching this and it’s really cool. I’ll comment when I get some time. But now plane fifteen minutes must get OFF LINE>..*%!!
May 25th, 2006 05:14
Rob, by stiffs I just meant nonmidnighters, not actually frozen. It could work, if the midnighters were willing to keep a steady steam of midnight impaired persons “wandering” into the midnight hour for the darklings. Yeah, I know, this is getting more unethical by the minute.
Ok, let’s go back to the darkling psych profile (my personal favourite subject). Yes, they’re afraid of midnighters. As Melissa said in the first book, when she was talking to Rex: “Just like you always know there’s a spider under your house coming to get you, they know there’s a flamebringer out there somewhere.” Or something like that. I don’t have the book on hand, so I can’t be sure. Anyway, the point is, whenever they think they’re safe, their former prey shows up with steel and fire and Aversions to try and kill them. So, don’t you think if there was a way that they could still get enough to eat and as a bonus humans would stop hunting them they would take it? Yeah, humans may be small and weak and insignificant, but there’s lots of them. Remember Rex at the pep rally? Large groups of humans scare darklings. A lot. Especially now that there’s so many midnighters, whatever darklings are left won’t want to have to fight them. Darklings are old and knowledgable and strong, but there aren’t that many of them. There’s millions of humans. They’re like insects, you can’t get rid of them. And the darklings can’t use tech, can’t handle new ideas, can’t keep up with human evolution, and the secret hour only made that worse.
May 25th, 2006 08:20
Ok so on the off chance the midnighters become ruthless, brutal, heartless killers this would be plausible. However i don’t think any midnighter would be willing (except maybe melissa haha). Anyway what kind of a book would it be if the midnighters just did whatever instead of killing darklings. Who would pass up the chance to be a superhero if they could be? Which if you think about it thats what the midnighters are.
May 25th, 2006 09:30
Yeah, that was what my brother said, the books would be no fun without darkling slaying lol (of course, he’s never read them, just heard me talk about them). But if, say, it was a situation where it was nessesary to their survival to make an alliance with the darklings, they could. By the way, anyone ever stop to think about the fact that the darklings are also intelligent lifeforms and obviously don’t like being slaughtered, so unnessesary darkling slaying isn’t ethical either?
May 25th, 2006 15:07
No one really thinks that way because the darklings are every humans worst nightmare. So of course people fear them and what people fear they destroy. It just makes sense to slaughter them because of what they plan to do all humans. The midnighters act like a sheild between human world and darkling world.
May 25th, 2006 18:47
Who’s unneccessarily slaying darklings? Yeah, they did that in the old days, because they were a bit stupid, not to mention slightly cruel. However, I’m sure they thought they were doing the right thing. Anyway, of course darklings are afraid of humans, but probably only the midnighters. Normal humans don’t understand their weaknesses, plus they can’t even enter the blue time. So it’s really just Jess to be scared of, ‘the power of the almighty flamebringer’. Therefore, they all try to kill her. So the midnighters have to defend themselves by KILLING the darklings (that attack them – not all of them). I suppose after they midnighter group increases the darklings will have even more reason to fear humans, but that’s all in due time. Plus not all the darklings are intelligent; of course they all think, but many of the young ones are quite impetuous, unlike the old ones.
I’m actually not sure what I’m trying to prove. :S
But, as an alternative to eating stiffs (which I don’t think they can): the darklings could go vegetarian. Lol
May 26th, 2006 04:48
Well, even the youngest most careless darklings are still as smart as humans. And the darklings may attack first, but that is because the midnighters provoke them. And once again, when I said stiffs I meant anyone who isn’t a midnighter. Geez, I’m going to have to watch what I say around you people, you take things so literally lol.
May 26th, 2006 07:46
Hi
I was under the impression that most of the darklings are dead. A few got away from the lightning, a few never showed, and all the ones who did live would have flown as far away from the all-powerfull flame-bringer as they could. And now that midnight has spread, as far away as they can get is halfway around the world. The remaining darklings would be super afraid of humans after their Samhain was ruined. I think they might stay in hiding for at least a year of thier time, which would be 24 of our years. Why are we even discussing making alliances with them?
May 26th, 2006 08:01
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May 26th, 2006 14:28
But then comes a concept of maybe the original blue time ws huge, and it started to shrink as more midnighters appeared thus trapping darklings in time all over the world. These darklings will be released from their cryostasis, and most likely hungry. THIS IS ONLY AN IDEA. That would be cool to learn that the blue time was actually very expansive but a previous flamebringer along with other midnighters tryed to seal it off from humanity, but could only reduce it to the spots where darkling “magic” is most powerful. Hence Bixby.
May 26th, 2006 14:31
Man thinkin about it that would be a sweet idea!
Agree……Disagree……
May 26th, 2006 16:00
Cool theory. I like it. That would fit with the midnighters story that I’m working on too. (The alliance with darklings thing is another one I’m trying to work into that.)
May 27th, 2006 19:02
I thought stiffs were actually frozen people. Isn’t that how Melissa ‘defines’ them? Because they’re frozen… and stiff…
Lol.
May 28th, 2006 02:11
Yeah, but it’s also a sort of midnighter slang for normal people. Not really just midnighter either. Me and my friends use it for just about anyone who doesn’t fit in around us. But yeah, Blue Noon complicates the use of it somewhat…
May 30th, 2006 12:14
yea so i’m reading what everyone’s saying. alissa: humans aren’t the only ones that darklings eat, they eat animals too. the midnighters also wouldnt let other people get eaten by darklings on purpose. and i agree w/ rob that if the darklings and humans made peace than it wouldnt really be much of a story (could be a good ending tho) but i dont think they should slay darklings unnecesarilly (13 letter word!) either. but they only kill them when the darklings attack first right? but they arent evil just hungry. so i guess what i’m tryin to say is i agree with alissa and rob on some things. u are both right i guess but i’m gonna side w/ rob more on this one.
does anyone else try to find 13 letter words now? once i found like 4 on one page in a book i was reading.
and also didnt dess say that there could be other places where midnight was other than bixby before the rip thing?
May 30th, 2006 17:20
word scout sided with me, haha in your face alissa. just kidding alissa i’m not tryin to be mean. Plus from what i read darklings were only killed if they were attacking the midnighters or trying to, i need some help finding where they killed them for no reason. What book says this?
And to answer Scout yes there were more places. If you go on scotts hints the blue time was at certain points with multiples of twelve, which bixby’s longitude and latitude coordinates were. Which if you read my idea now that blue time is everywhere darklings will be waking up all over the place now. (thats from my idea though). i like my idea haha. Is that like laughing at your own jokes?
May 31st, 2006 04:07
What about places that are multiples of thirteen? There’s an abandoned town not too far from where I live that’s on a multiple of twelve one way and a multiple of thirteen the other. Kind of freaky, actually.
May 31st, 2006 16:40
I would say that anything with 13 in it would scae the darklings. Because it’s not like 12 gives them strength. They can just tolerate it the best. 13 is absolutely intolerable to the darklings so anything with 13 in it must scare them. I mean they can tolerate 1-12 but just cause you can tolerate something doesn’t mean it gives you strength. Although in this case it works one way 13 weakens them but 12 doesn’t give them strength. Or so i would think from my opinion. Anyone else have an opinin on this??
June 1st, 2006 04:22
Ok, with the new global midnight, what if places on multiples of thirteen are darkling-free zones? Somewhere with midnight but no darklings?
June 1st, 2006 12:37
That would be sweet like little “free-zones” to do what ever you want. I like that idea. They could evey have meetings where the darklings didn’t know what they were doing. But isn’t that what madelineshouse was? A darkling free zone or a place where darklings couldn’t find her? So i would suppose that the 13 x 13 zones would be like madelines house but amplified????
Wheres Scott when you need him?????????? SCOTT!!!!!
June 1st, 2006 15:35
Well what sort of scale of measurement would anyone be using, because techincally, anything is a multiple of 13 or a multiple of 12 with the right scale, so therefore would there be some units that were more tolerable than others, based on age of creation, or even if someone made a new one number system would it be intolerable all together? So in the US and in Europe are there zones that are measured in yards and then meters? and are different lengths, or is it all the same, and also, how was dividing up the earth decided, into degress and minutes and seconds, why couldn’t it all be 13 if someone made the scale that way, and eliminate darklings altogether???
June 1st, 2006 15:44
I like the insight in this, but when it comes down to it i’m pretty sure it’s measured in time units the only universal meeasurements. Also the darklings created the blue time a long time ago when time was supposedly unheard of. Or at least thats what i got from it. Due to some remebering the first fires. So most humans forgot all about them and made a logical system of 12 around the darklings without knowing the darklings just adapted to 12 more because thats when their hour started and it only last for 60 mins or 12 x 5 Minutes. Which just means they adapted more to it and less to 13. As 13 would be when their time is up and its back to humans time.
June 1st, 2006 16:10
Time would definately be the underlying number system and would make sense since years are constant and so are days, but is every twelfth year then a particularly good darkling year, and then every thirteenth isn’t?
Why does the number twelve, being when darklings can do whatever they, the secret hour, carry over into everyhting else they like or don’t like. Why are the darklings so fascinated/ tied in with that number is there some sort of obsessive nature to them, or an OCD type quality. Did it become a ritualistic ideal as time went on that represented their freedom (12) or opression (13) to the point where they could actually die form contact with the latter, and the former drew them, towards it?
Finally a bit off topic but a question i’ve had for a while is, aren’t ehre technically less than 24 hours in day, hence the timing isn’t exact and doesn’t follow the pattern???
June 1st, 2006 16:16
Is the secret hour in actuality slightly less than an hour, to accomodate for there not being 24 hours in a day???
just wondering if anyone esle had thought about this??
June 1st, 2006 16:17
Well i like the comments and i believe your really thinking quite deeply into this. But if your asking how long a day really is, how do you know exactly. From what i know it can never be exact due to human error in the reading and if you go on priciples of physics who’s point of view are you going by. As time is all relative to the view frame. So i guess its all an approximation anyway, but the darklings run on the approximation as well as humans because they are in the same view frame. It’s true though that if the darklings were in a different frame than the humans time would be a little faster or a little slower depending.
June 1st, 2006 16:24
that’s an excellent point, based on approximation that is true, and same with relativity, especially because the darkilings seem to be inherently tuned with these ideas.
please anyone comment back on ideas??
June 1st, 2006 16:31
IF YOU DARE…………
lol, but feedback would be nice. Since i know max personally. We need more feedback we always get into these arguements.
June 2nd, 2006 01:12
I was under the impression that the number twelve didn’t make darklings more powerful, it was just the only number they could stand. It can kind of be compared to Melisa in the first book. During Midnight she seemed more “powerful”, but that was just because all the other times she was bombarded with mind noise, and at pep rallies it was even more painful for her, just like the number thirteen hurts darklings. only with darklings its gotten to the point that the number thirteen hurts darklings so much it kills them.
Has anyone else noticed how many more darkling days there are on a calander than midnighter days(or am I the only one obsessed enough to map it out?) Also, what happens on days like December First:
December is the 12th month and 1×12=12
But if you add 1+12=13
Is the 13 more powerful than the 12? Is addition more powerful than multiplication? Does the fact that December is the 12th month make the 12 stronger? Do they simply cancel eachother out, making a neutral day?
Scott?? A little help here please??
June 2nd, 2006 03:55
Ok, most of what everyone’s said is so mathematical it makes my head hurt, but there are a few things I can comment on. Cassandra: take for example in Touching Darkness when Rex stuck twelve knives into the door instead of thirteen. He referred to it as a “darkling magnet”. Darklings are strongly attracted to the number twelve, but I doubt it is because it makes them more powerful. I think they just like it. As in I like the number thirteen, not because it makes me any stronger, because I just happen to like it. That seems to me like the way darklings would think. Max: To the darklings there isn’t really any “freedom” and “oppression”. Their time is continuous to them, like normal time is to stiffs. As I said earlier, they profit from the arrangment, since their lifespans are so much longer than midnighter’s this way. So the 12/13 thing might mave something to do with midnight, even something similar to that, but I doubt it is that exactly.
June 2nd, 2006 09:06
And just another fact that you might want to take into consideration with all this time calculating: there wasn’t always a 365 day year. A few thousand years ago the year was 360 days. I don’t know the exact details, but it had something to do with an astroid shifting the Earth’s orbit. So you should check the effect that has on the darkling numbers.
June 2nd, 2006 12:23
SO WHICH IS MORE POWERFUL, ADDITION OR MULTIPLICATION???
June 2nd, 2006 15:33
The ending just killed me. I mean Jonathan only gets to see her one hour a day(night actually), and when she finally works things out with her sister, she’ll pretty much never see her again. Shame on you. Although I did like how she saved the day with her powers and everything. Still….getting stuck in the blue zone has got to suck.
And does the whole ripping thing only happen every few hundred years? Because it seems like people would remember an event as traumatic as that. But I guess we’ll never know…since it was the last book and all. *sigh*
~breana
June 2nd, 2006 15:49
Alissa there is a freedom and opression period. Did you ever notice how the darklings always leave near the end of the blue time? It’s because they have to go back into hiding before the sun comes up or they’re dead. Scott actually mentions that Jess has become something different because she doesn’t have to hide underground during the daylight. Which is probably the underlying issue on the 12 being a good number and 13 being a bad one.
June 2nd, 2006 15:53
And Cassandra months don’t really matter too much. Yes they do somewhat ampliphy the darlings fear or “power”, but the only real number that matter are the time units and years since they always remain constant. Years stay constant due to a predictable rotation around the sun, and time is constant because time never changes(as long as the darklings and humans remain in the same view frame).
June 2nd, 2006 17:25
So they have to hide underground for five minutes, big deal. I don’t think they really mind all that much. And the Old Ones always live underground… Ok, it might be oppression for them. Not being able to really feed for that long. But the young darklings have never known anything other than living in the blue time. To say that is oppression is like saying sleep is oppression to humans.
Cassandra: Yeah, I’d say multiplication is more powerful. It gives me a worse headache, anyway lol. But yeah, it’s newer and more complicated, so that would be my guess.
June 3rd, 2006 02:49
Multiplication? Aw, rats!
That means that every day of the month of December is a darkling holiday! And every other day of June, and every three days of April, and every four days of March, and every six days of February!
And yes, it does matter, Rob. Dess calculated the coming of Samhain through this numberology stuff, before Rex talked with the old ones. And if you look hard enough, there are tons of other days like that, where a midnighter day rolls into a darkling one. If Dess writes a book of Dessometrics, she would probably include a calendar with all her little calculations for every day. But we will never know what Dess would write, because the Midnighters series is a trilogy(I still have hope that there could be another one:)
June 3rd, 2006 02:53
Oh, by the way, Scott, I like the new look. When I first saw the picture at the top, I thought it was of midnighters, silly me. At first glance the girl on the left seemed to have red hair, so I thought she was Jessica. But then I saw her eyes were blue, so my first thought was “Her eyes are wrong”. Weird huh?
June 3rd, 2006 06:09
Yeah, I like the new look too. Hey Cassandra, how does june 10th measure up? Just wondering.
June 3rd, 2006 07:50
I love all of your books!!! they are the very best in the world!!!!!!
after reading the last book when i was reading and saw a really long word, i would stop and count the letters…sad, i know, but 13-letter words are so cool!!
i loved the last book…it wasn’t a happy ending…but you get tired with happy endings sometimes…and it’s always suprising when it isn’t a total happy ending, i like that
it was sooo good, tho!!!
i feel bad for Jonathan and Jess, but maybe Jess can find someone else trapped in Midnight…if there is anybody…
Dess is my favorite character, tho! she is so cool!!! i want to be a polymath!!! math is my favorite subject ^^
another book would be nice*cough cough*…^^
i think it’d be really cool to hav 25 hours!!! the things you could do…muahahaha…um…0:)
June 3rd, 2006 10:01
It’s not that weird to count the letters to find 13-letter words. Ok, maybe it is, but it seems like most of us do it lol. I have a list of a few thousand tridecalogisms.
June 3rd, 2006 13:32
Sorry Alissa,
June is the sixth month
10×6=60 which is 12×5
Nothing else matches up
10+6=16
10-6=4
J-U-N-E T-E-N-T-H only nine letters
It is Day 161 of the year, which isn’t a multiple of 13 or 12 and 1+6+1=8
It turns out that all the even days in June are darkling days. If 6 is multiplied by a multiple of 2, then the answer is always a multiple of twelve. This is going to be a fun summer.
June 3rd, 2006 13:58
This is the 365th post, which is the same as the number of days in a year. Neat huh?
June 3rd, 2006 17:36
Must you guys get so technical? It’s hurting my brain. Lol.
Let’s get into the LESS mathematical aspects of the book.
For example, would you be able to cope being Jessica: aging waay slower than everyone you know, so that eventually you’ll know no-one; knowing your family probably thinks you’re dead and blames themselves; and missing out on a ‘normal’ life.
Hm?
June 4th, 2006 00:02
I would hate having to go through what Jessica is having to do. Its so sad. I think she would have to keep reminding herself that if she hadn’t stuck her hand in the lightning everyone in Bixby, including Beth and her parents, would be dead and it would be all her fault(which, if you remember when she and Jonathan flew through the old darklings, that was her worst fear). And who knows? Maybe they find a way to get her out of there? Well, of course, Scott knows, but he’s not telling:(
Hey Jess, what if I like the mathmatical aspects of the book? It seems like alot of the people who keep posting wish they were polymaths. What’s your favorite tallent?
June 4th, 2006 05:30
Polymaths, great. Personally, I hate math (that would be why every time I want to know something mathematical I ask Cassandra lol). I’d be a mindcaster. I don’t actually know anyone who would make a good polymath, but one of my friends could pass off as a metallurge.
June 4th, 2006 18:29
Actually Cassandra even though months are hinted at the fact that they are important they really aren’t. Going on the aspect of darklings basic unit of measure is a second months become arbitrary. Which is probably why sometimes they are affected by months but oher times aren’t. Days however aren’t arbitrary as they run on a constant yearly basis following a constant rate of seconds in a day (years become arbitrary as well in this spectrum). Months could be anything which is also why the months changed from 10 – 12 a long long time ago. It seems that the darklings are unaffected by months, yet are also affected by them (contradiction?). What the Darklings are really affected by are DAYS, the reason they hate some months is probably because all those still around remember the first use of a new human idea of months, but some days they knew would come with a loophoole and allow them to be less scared of humans.
June 4th, 2006 18:34
You guys should read a little more about Max’s comments on June 1st 15:35 again.
June 4th, 2006 18:46
Alissa its not just a matter of hiding underground for 5 mins, because if that were it then they’d have no problem with 13. Thier time of oppression is when they can’t wander around the blue time freely. Oppression may be a little harsh since the humans don’t have the power in this situation, but it works. As a matter of fact the darklings also have a “curfew”. Also their freedom comes when that 5 mins is up and they can once again meander the blue time. So freedom and opression really do exist, because even though it’s continuous to them they still know the hour at which they will be “free” and when they have to cower or die.
June 4th, 2006 18:51
And since were on the subject of asking what our favorite talents are i would love to be an Achrobat. Just running around and jumping 50 ft in the air seems pretty damn cool to me. (I have the achrobat symbol painted on my wall now :-X)
June 4th, 2006 18:54
It just doesn’t seem to me that any of the other midnighters would have as much fun as jonathan. Sure he’s normal during the day but what beats not having to follow the earths laws of gravity? If only for an hour? Sure the others have fun, but their powers seem boring, well maybe not boring, just not as cool as “flying”.
June 4th, 2006 19:08
Lol, finished posting yet Rob?
I’d like to be a seer. I have this whole must-be-leader thing happening. Control freak? A little. I think being a polymath would be cool, since math would be efforless and actually FUN! But right now, as a ‘normal’ person without math-powers, it seems very taxing on the brain.
And I definitely wouldn’t be able to cope with not seeing my family, like Jess. Forever, basically. At least she has company though, in the form of Jonathon etc. But still.
June 5th, 2006 02:49
I’d really like to be a polymath, obviously. The weird thing is I don’t like math homework, not because its hard, just because it takes so LONG! But figuring out which days are darkling days and which are midnighter days is fun, although I have had a little help from Deconstructed Supercomputer (also known as a calculator). Dess would be ashamed:(
June 5th, 2006 08:05
Don’t think of the powers as the how the people turned out with them, apply them to your own life. Like i would love a 25th hour and be able to fly during it. But i wouldn’t think of my girlfriend being like jess and stuck. And the coincidence is my girlfriend wants to be a flamebringer.
June 5th, 2006 08:28
I started The Secret Hour on Wednesday and finsihed Blue Noon on Friday night. I HATE finishign seires! I really thought I wasgoign to die when I finsihed Specials. Anyway now I’m rereading all of Midnighters. Scott here’s an idea 13 books! It’s a lot but 3,4 and 6 are nto options. And 13 would be soooooo perfect. I’m probably insane becuase that’s a lto of books but it would be wonderful! I spent the last hour of my life reading EVERY COMMENT ON THIS BOARD! I hope everyone apriciates that. Wehn it comes ot time 12 is like the ultimate number (I won’t repeat every equation look baove to see them). And there are the 24 geostationary satillites ect. So when the darklings collapsed the 25th hour they made htemsleves a sacuntuary using 12s. 13 is the evil number for them becuase 12+13=25 giving the day 25 hours again. Personally I half love half hate the whole 12 vs 13 thing becuase i have an obsession with symatrey and 12s do have really perfect symatry especailly in a book all about time. But 13 is a prime number which is equally interesting and complicated. I love all the math in the book. Polymaths are the allimination of all other talents (ok thta was hard ot word corectly). Math has always been my strongest talent which is part of the reason I read Midnighters in the firts place (since Scott talks about Dess everywhereo n the site, no favouritism there.). Um moving away from the math NOOOOOOOOO MELISSA AND REX CAN’T BE SEPERATED! And Jonathan and Jess, thats just tradgic. I postivily adored everyone’s ideas i ntheir comments abotu them getting her out ect. But the idea of being trapped in blue time is so cool. And no Jess couldn’t show up wherever! Becuase for her it’s like it is for the stiffs. You blink and it’s zoomed past. Except for her its 24 hours not 1. Which does bring up the sleep issue. For like 8 days in a row Melissa and Jonathan have ot wait for her becuase she’s sleeping! O and Rob your poem was amazing. I’m sad Dess had to stay in Bixby. I love Dess. I was quite annoyed when I first started reading the series becuase I thought it was going to be all about Dess (Scott’s favouritism strikes again), but I got over that FAST! what really surprised me was my favourtie character (besides Dess obviously) is Melissa. She is like fascinating (11 letters dang it) beyond anything I’ve ever read. Except maybe Pretty culture. But that is like a HUGE concept.I almost went insane during Touching Darkness waiting for her and Rex to get together. Poor Dess all alone. Actully i like the paring so much to care that much. I have liek 1000000 other htigns ot sya but my head is too clutered wiht them right now to say them. I actulyl dont trust myself to sya anyhting baout the series until after rereading it. Everything becomes soooo much clearer. I liked SPecials so much more after the second time.
June 5th, 2006 08:40
O yes i rememeber soemthign else: I lvoe the mouse thing on the midnighters home page. I cna play with that thing for hours. Which bring me to another thing, SCOTT PLEASE UPDATE THAT WEBSITE! I’ve read each page 3 times at least! Adn the fact Jess is not on the crew page drives me insane! And a new Dess blog would be tremendousish! Hehehehe. I have this thign where at the start of each chapter of the book I have to count how many letters are in the title. On involving the ice crema socials had 12 letters! I bet I start being obsessed with tridecalogisms, I got hooked on pretty/specail-speak. Hehehehehe. Ok Kelly, must stop writign LONG things!
June 5th, 2006 08:41
Ok I’m not sure if that will look like my first or second pot becuase my long one says awaiting moderation (proabably becuase its soooooooooo long). So if the one about the website ocmes firts for oyu, know that a longer post is coming and I’m nto isane thinking I posted soemthign else.
June 5th, 2006 09:31
Ok I have lost my mind but am in a state of uter bliss. I googled 13 ltter word and now have a list of 7 825 of them on my computer. I dont know what actinomycetes means but I really don’t care! Let’s see, add that up and you get 22 which divided by 2 is 11 which plus 2 is 13. So there’s a conection to 13 there if you play with 2s. I hope all 7 825 of these words become familiarities in your life. Of course this makes it a 29 page document on Word so I’ll probabyl; improvise more than look them up. But if it turns out some form of screw up makes my city have ACTUAL midnight be 3:22 and I turn up somewhere where thereis blue time I’m all set.
June 5th, 2006 09:58
I’ve been wondering, when they say that the blue time occurs at real midnight, not day light savings time midningt, which midnight do they mean? The one in the summer or the one in the winter? Melissa said that her birth certificate said 1:00 am, but I’m still not sure.
Yeah, Kelly, I’ve seen the 7,825 word list. If you make the word document font be Times New Roman, make the font size 8, and make it have five collums you can make it a little shorter. Anyone who hasn’t seen the list should check it out:
http://www.geocities.com/thesecrethour/tridecalogisms.html
June 5th, 2006 10:28
Well basically in between one set of daylight savings days the midnighters get midnight at 1 am instead. Daylight savigns time has nothign to do wiht how the earth and sun orbit. It was invented by us to let farmers have extra daylight in the morning. So the original midnight before daylight savings is actual midnight.
And I’d just liek to say I drew a tridecagram and it was hard. I had to use a ruler, calculator (for pi) and compass ot get an exact one. But it was fun!
June 5th, 2006 10:31
Thanks Cassandra! My list is sooooo much eaiser to read now.
June 5th, 2006 10:37
OOOOOOO! Scott this is a mistake. Considering at the begining Midnight is 12 that would mean the summer is when its actual Midnight. But somewehere during September or October it hsould have changed to 1 am becuase daylight savings would have ended. Which is actully backwards anyway becuase since it is ending thta should mean we are returning to actual Midnight and it was 1 am during the summer.
June 5th, 2006 10:41
When I said at the beginign i meant at the begining of the series not of time. Just so thta’s clear
June 5th, 2006 12:25
ok now i’m confused. but just to confuse you more, (not really, i was just thinking of this as i was reading what everyone said) if you count how many hours starting at noon, the darklings live in the 13th hour of the day. i thought that was interesting. and also, you could take vertually any number and somehow connect it to 12 or 13.
June 5th, 2006 13:34
scout i hate to say it but max already said that. He said any number could be linked to 13 with the right scale. Then on top of that he asked why couldn’t humans just make a scale of 13 and eliminate darklings altogether.
You guys need to read about or conversation more not just skim it.
June 5th, 2006 13:35
let us know if you don’t understand any of it and we’ll try to explain it. “Cause some are college physics topics.
June 5th, 2006 16:33
NOt tryin to be arrogant or a prick so sorry if it seems that way.
June 6th, 2006 08:15
I feel liek posting something becuase I haven’t for like… 20 hours or something (I cna’t use the posting times becuase they dont match up to my time zone). I read Peeps during that time. It was soooo good. I can’t wait for Last Days. I really hsould be sayign this on a Peeps thread… O well. And if by 13 scale you mean relating to time that would invole recreatign how long seconds, minutes ect are so it works with thirteen and the current way we measure itme so it would still be accurate. So that would be very hard. Dess would love it. If that is completely not what you meant by scale could someone explain? Here is my question: during Midnight does the earth keep turning? Becuase if it doesn’t then how did the darklings manage to stop that when they created blue time, becuase they would have to change the speed of the earths rotation and orbit so the dya could have 24 hours. And if not wouldn’t scientests notice thta there is a missing hour?
June 6th, 2006 08:17
Definatly not my time zone. This hting says its tommorow morning! I guess that’s the time in Australia… But I oculd be wrong becuase I’ve never really studied time zones and its actulyl somewhere else. The point is its 5:18 on the 5th for me. There now tommorow I cna figure out when I actully posted.
June 6th, 2006 08:35
Kya soryr people found Max’s comment. Measuring system… hmmm. Would be ridculously hard to memorize somewhat similar ot the ridiculous US system, but easier (I enjoyed the thing in Dess’s blog tremendously (imagine thta word doenst have 12 letters)). But it would force everyone to memorize mulitiples of 13. Right now it (metirc system) works with 10s which isn’t too bad. I would think the time meausring system would be more important ot reboot, becuase that is acutlly run by 12s.
June 6th, 2006 16:33
Face it, humans like twelves. Don’t ask me why, but I would guess it’s easier to calculate. Easier for me, anyway. And I think if they redid the time system my head would explode… it’s always been the same, everyone knows it, and it’s all done to the movement of the sun and moon, so it isn’t really possible to change it without severely screwing things up… I doubt even midnighters could pull it off.
June 6th, 2006 17:49
um i thought that this thread died like months ago, and im soooo amazed you guys kept it alive and there are almost 400 posts here, that amazes me, and im going to attempt to read them all later. but first. Good Job!
June 6th, 2006 21:39
A system of 13s would be really hard. I mean, it’s a prime number, so no combination of 1-digit numbers add up to it. Unlike, 12, or whatever. Even 8 = you have 4 and 2 (and 1, obviously). And if you combine 9 and 10, you can eliminate nearly all the one-digit numbers (1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, [1]0). Oh man, Maths Challenge has been hurting my brain. Lol.
June 7th, 2006 06:21
I’m sure i perosnally bring this to 400 today. I post waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. Today I tried to figure out if with 25 hours in a day there is a relationship to 13 with the numbers in a year. It was pretty close. But no cigar. O well. O yes and I’m very embaresed becuase I accidently sent Scott an email I didn’t mean to and the my friends clicked reply all… Scott please don’t hate me for adding to your inbox! I love your books to much to live if you hated me!
June 7th, 2006 07:23
365×24=8760 365×25=9125/13=701.92 (rounded). Which means if there was 0.162 more minutes in an hour midnighter time (as in 25 hours in a day) would be a multiple of 13. (Hours per years). Aproximitly. There would be milisecond and milimilisecodn issues. But on the other hand whats the change there are exactly 31536000 seconds in a year?(I ignore leap years). So ha. Very mathematizing.
June 7th, 2006 07:53
ok when i said change i meant chance. i can’t type, you might have noticed. i had ot correct this before i went insane becuase of it. wahaha well now we are closer to 400… which is funny because I remember reading how everyone was wanting to get to 200
June 7th, 2006 13:39
We werent sayin it’d be easy we were sayin why wouldn’t humans change the system, or better yet have the mindcasters make everyone forget about the old one and start on the new one plus with this they could eliminate the human threat alltogether. But then i got to thinking that alot of the midnighters would want to keep the blue time cause it seems like it would be fun to me.
June 7th, 2006 13:40
400!!! hahaha so it would be hard, but the real question is, is it worth it to get rid of darklings and blue time or would you want to keep blue time around if you were a midnighter???
June 7th, 2006 13:52
First off, this is unnessesary darkling slaying lol. Second, did you take into consideration how many people there are in the world? I don’t think any mindcaster would want to attemt that. Speaking from a mindcaster point of view, I would way rather have darklings. That would be way too much mental programming, even with all the mindcasters they are likely to find with the extended midnight.
June 7th, 2006 18:56
I’m sure if I was a midnighter, I’d definitely want to KEEP midnight – a lot of them wouldn’t even be able to use their powers during the day e.g. Jonathon, Jess. So, even if it meant keeping the darklings, I think the midnighters would also want to keep midnight. Will the darklings try to hurt ALL the midnighters? Or is it just self-defence? I’ve never actually been quite sure.
June 8th, 2006 04:22
Well yes keep Midnight. It makes up such a large part of the Midnighters’ personalities. The fact is darlings weren’t goign around attcking them unless they went out to the snake pit or somewhere like that. It just started when Jessica came. And even then the other Midnighters weren’t really attcked unless they were with Jess. Plus eventually (inless your were an acrobat) Midnight would get a bit tedus. Once how everythign works, then it will be just another hour in a day. It would take a few years obviously but without darklings Midnight just isn’t as fun.
And now there will be more mindcasters probably. But still it would be A LOT of work to create a new number system. And you’d have ot recreate new rulers, protracters ect. Which would be a huge enviromental waste.
June 8th, 2006 04:23
ACK! Do I EVER get ot post when this hting thinks its the same day! Does nayone knwo what time zone this is? I’m sick of posting tommorow, if that amkes any sense.
June 8th, 2006 11:31
Hey guys,
Last night(06/06/06, definatly a darkling day) I had this really wierd dream. I was in Bixby, and the rip opened up again so I saw midnight and met Rex, Dess, Melissa, Jessica and Madeline (No Jonathan, I’m not sure why). There wasn’t any frozen lighting, but the rip had extended all the way to the clouds so that it was raining in the blue time and there was a lot of lightning so we had to predict where the lightning would strike so Jessica could seal the rip. Jessica saved the day, again, although I didn’t see any darklings. The neat thing was when normal time came Jessica was still there and she didn’t have a lightning hand. Something to do with double negatives, you know, how if you multiply 2 negitive numbers you get a positive one? Oh well, it was just a dream, so me posting this is probably just me being bored.
At least, I think it was just a dream:)
June 8th, 2006 17:13
Well first off i have to say i agree with keeping the blue time along with darklings, however i think it could be easier than you think to recreate a number system. If only 2 mindcasters could control all of bixby (from when madeline was learning from her predecessor) then imagine the amount of mindcasters they’ll be meeting and the control they’ll be learning from melissa. It shouldn’t be that hard to completely persuade entire cities. Blanking their memories and telling everyone about the new system in one hand shake. Also you have to imagine the mindcasters would be more powerful and melissa may already be to a point as to where she can influence others without touch. So everyone frozen during blue time would be getting new ideas while they are sleeping. Just like jess’s parents.
June 8th, 2006 17:20
Who wouldn’t want to keep blue time anyway??? There is definetly too much fun to be had during it to let it slip away that easily
. I have another hypothetical question for you guys to answer now.
If the mindcasters proposed such an idea like remaking the number system, would the achrobats (like jonathan who would give anything for the blue time) do anything to stop them or would they just sit by and let it happen? If they did try to stop them how far would they go? Killing?? If they planned to kill the mindcasters would they be able to succeed or could the mindcasters stop the achrobats??
opinions?
June 8th, 2006 17:26
In post 406 all the mindcasters would really have to do is persuade the CEO’s of companies that control anything to do with the measurements (rulers, yardsticks, ect.) and maybe the president to persuade the people before the mindcasters could erase their minds of any doubts as to the new system.
June 8th, 2006 20:50
Wait, I’m confused. By changing the number system, are you erasing midnight?
…?
Besides, it’s completely unethical to leave the fate of those in the hands of few, like in the monarchy or something. Remember when Bixby was being controlled by the old midnighters? It was actually really terrible, everyone lived in fear and thought that the midnighters were monsters, like darklings or something. Plus they were all corrupted at the time, believing that they were meant to rule (but perhaps this wasn’t their fault). Anyhow, headache, so see ya.
June 9th, 2006 06:14
Hey, what happened to Rex’s idea about mindcasting being unethical? I doubt he’d like the idea of changing the entire world. And there’s another thing: you guys keep talking president and corporations, but the entire world, including places where there are no major corporations or governments. For instance, here in Canada you would probably have to control the premieres as well as the Prime Minister, or people wouldn’t buy it. I personally wouldn’t want to try it.
As for Rob’s question, why would the mindcasters let the acrobats think that? If mindcasters set their mind on something and are willing to forgo ethics for it (which most of them are, from what I can tell) there’s no real way to stop them. If you so much as think something they don’t like they reprogram you. Mindcasters may not be the toughest or most knowledgable midnihgters, but they’re without a doubt the most powerful. They were the only reason the midnighters ruled the old Bixby. Oh, and the people of Bixby didn’t live in fear, the mindcasters would have programmed them not to be afraid of them.
June 9th, 2006 11:40
hey scott!
i dont know if you read this part of the blog anymore, but as long as it is related to the topic, its all good.okay, so i found out about something.I know a lot of people had been telling you to write more books for midnighters, but IF you do, I have some interesting facts that can be use. fact numero uno, whoo hoo! im guessing that darklings are now afraid of one dollar bills! why? because there is 13 written all over it! alrite,to prove this, whoever is reading this, take out a 1 dollar bill. if u dont have one, ask yur parents, yur parents dont hav one, to bad, so sad. gosh im mean, anyway first flip to the back side of washington. you will see 2 circles.okay.so this is where all the 13 is. notice that the pyramid has 13 steps. notice that the word ANNUIT COEPTIS on top of the pyramid is also 13 letters(if yur counting the letter o and e as two seperate letters). now scroll over to the circle with the eagle.look at the stars on top of it, these are the stars of the 13 original colonies, and theres another 13 for ya. but wait, there’s more! look at what the eagle is holding…thats rite! it has 13 arrows on the right claw. AND! on top of that, the ribbon that is going through the eagle’s beak, which has an imprint of E PLURIBUS UNUM also has 13 letters. is this crazy or what?
my second fact is the moon. Each year, there are 13 full moons, yes, count them, not 12, but 13 full moons. Each month, there is a full moon. but wait, that makes only 12 full moons a year.well the 13th is the second full moon that occurs in one of the months. so each year, in one of the months, there will be two full moon, and the second one is called blue moon. and finally the last and final 3rd fact is that this is the longest comment i posted for scott. it took me 6 mins and 31 secs, yes i timed it for some reason…
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June 9th, 2006 12:58
that is soo wicked awsome! im bringing lotsa one dollar bills and paperclips on my next midnight expedition! lol
June 9th, 2006 13:22
Alissa rearead the questions and answer them one at a time. I wanted to know what everyones answer to each individual question would be. You answered the last part of it though that was nice ;-P.
June 9th, 2006 17:22
Hey Alissa: surely the midnighters can’t control EVERYONE. Because they need to touch them to control them (which I’m sure they could in the blue time). But still, that’s a lot of people, and the whole reason that the midnighter generation was lost was because Grayfoot thought it wasn’t right. So yeah, he wasn’t afraid, but he didn’t think the same as everyone else. And they probably didn’t think they were monsters (contradicting myself here), it was probably in hindsight they thought that.
Hey Kha, I think someone already posted theh one-dollar bill thing. But the moon thing… snaps to you. Lol.
June 10th, 2006 07:59
1. Super ubbly about the 1 dollar bills. (Hahaha you people have 1 dollar bills!) I bet the other 13’s are becuase of the 13 colonies.
2. Why do the acrobats oppose changing the number system? But if they did I dobt they’d kill the midncasters or anyhtign like that. They’d just try to get some polymaths on their side and come up wiht reasosn why not to do it.
3. Mindcasting can lead to coruption. Well actually if you take history, it does. So I odn’t think any of the current Midnighters owuls use it to change the number system. They all would be worried they’re becomign corrupt by doign that. Dess owuld love the idea but reject the Mindcastign element.
June 10th, 2006 11:13
jess: really who?
anyways, yes i fine this dollar bill thing pretty fasinating!
June 10th, 2006 11:16
aww man, your rite jess, somebodey did post it…aww i dont feel special anymore…lol :]
June 10th, 2006 16:10
Omg. Ok first off read my other posts to figure out why we were talkin about a new number system. Then actually read and understand what i was asking, (it’s a hypothetical) i hope you guys know what a hypothetical is. Second off if mindcasters can become corrupt then what makes you think it will be so inoccent? especially since melissa doesn’t seem the angelic type. She already seems to disregard other midnighters and reads their minds against their will. Therefore i submit to you that if they decided to redo the number system what would happen. See my previous questions, and post your answers. It’s an opinion question.
June 10th, 2006 16:12
sorry for the harshness……
June 10th, 2006 19:18
Melissa doesn’t read people’s minds against their will. At first she had no choice, but after she gained control of her powers she never purposely read their minds. I suppose when people are in close range it just happens, you know? But apart from the whole Dess thing, she’s never forced herself onto others, and if she has it’s only in times of need.
The whole mindcasting thing in general raises ethical questions. It’s sort of like X-Men 3 (which I just saw – yay!), and the whole Professor Xavier/Jean Grey thing. I won’t say too much cuz it would ruin the movie, but yeah. When would mindcasters be able to use their powers? How far is too far? When does it stop being ok and ‘what was necessary’ and cross the line to being unethical?
And Rob, ‘hypothetical’ is an adjective. Hypothesis is the noun. But ‘hypothetical situation’ would work best, as hypothesis is when you guess what will happen. And DUH it’s hypothetical, cuz none of this is real! Lol
June 11th, 2006 05:42
lol thanks jess i hope you know that i was talkin about a hypothetical situation. You guys seem to be avoiding the question altogether? I’ll start then.
I think the achrobats would do anything in their power to stop the mindcasters, yes even as far as killing(most likely out of desperation and their love for the blue time). And i think even though the mindcasters could read their minds if the achrobast found another place like madelines house they could plan in privacy and the only way they could actually take down the mindcasters it seems would be to completely outnumber and overwhelm them.
June 11th, 2006 05:55
Rob, I think your premise has people confused. Why would the mindcasters want to eliminate the secret hour? It’s the only time all those noisy minds shut up.
And I’m not sure they could control everyone in the world to that extent. Our systems of time and measurement aren’t just in people’s minds; they’re part of physical culture (yardsticks, clocks, roadsigns, etc.), commerce, science, history, etc.
And if you do “break” the blue time by changing every clock in the world, does that means the darklings disappear? Or would it just release them once and for all?
Way cool about the dollar bill thing, by the way. If there’s ever another book, I’ll work that in.
June 11th, 2006 06:59
ok point taken. I guess its just a dumb question. But even if thats the only time the mind noise stops melissa has enough control now that she’s uneffected, and all she needs to do is touch another mindcaster to give them the same control. It just seems that if they wanted the mindcasters could eliminate the blue time(assuming that darklings would be destroyed once it was gone). What max and i are talkin about is switching the base measurement to a 13 scale, and since time seems to be the major scale for darklings all humans would have to do is change the time scale to multiples of 13 and not 12 to eliminate darklings, but with this would come the end of the blue time since the creators of the blue time would be eliminated. Once the blue time is gone their major threats dissapear and all that’s left for mindcasters to do is control the world, since in early bixby it seemed that mindcasters always develop a hunger for controlling people. So my question just branches off of this aspect because to me it seems like the only ones capable of stopping the mindcasters are the achrobats but only in blue time. Sure the mindcasters could taste them coming but the achrobats are too fast to make any changes in their head before they could eliminate the mindcasters, but the only way they could do it is if they outnumbered them. So all i’m sayin is it seems prbable that the mindcasters would become too power hungry and try to rule the world by eliminating their 2 biggest threats (darklings and achrobats). I’m not sayin that they’re bad people just that their power corrupts them in the end or it seems that way due to the way scott described the mindcasters in the past.
June 11th, 2006 07:00
i apologize for not clerifying earlier. And thanks scott for letting me nkow i was getting confusing. I do that sometimes…Can you guys ever forgive me? :-p
June 11th, 2006 10:19
O I gte the acorbat thing now! I don’t think the Darklings hold the blue time’s exsitance. I think it’s stuck now thta it has been created. But if we do have crazed Mindcasters taking over the world yes the acrobats would try to free the rest of the world. How, I odn’t know. Thye’d have ot find non-takign over Mindcasters to fix people’s minds.
June 11th, 2006 13:09
Do oyu really think Melissa will turn evilish? I think that at the end of Blue Noon it’s established that she knows the Midnighters (especailly Mindcasters) of the past were corupted and that thet should be the generation that changes that. She may sometimes be a bitch-godess but I don’t think she’s going to do anything worse than touching peoplewho odn’t want to be if she really needs to.
June 11th, 2006 15:55
Yeah
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I’m still confused.
June 11th, 2006 16:44
Jess: basically all i was saying is that the mindcasters could become power hungry once again but now that there will be alot more of them they would try to take over things. Starting with blue time and once they found that too easy they might decide to erase blue time, but the achrobats wouldn’t like it. See my other questions on comment 407 if you’re no longer confused…
June 11th, 2006 16:48
Kell-wa: how far do you think the achrobats would go? If they decided to kill the mindcasters would the achrobats be able to or would the mindcasters win?
I was thinking the achrobats would resort to killing but only as a last resort and if they did the only way they’d be able to pull it off would be sheer overpowering numbers as mindcasters would be stronger and able to influence the achrobats from distance.
June 12th, 2006 03:19
I feel bad for Beth. Knowing that her sister is still somewhat safe but cant tell anyone really not even her parents and she cant ever see her again or help at all.
June 12th, 2006 08:28
Aw I feel so sorry for Beth. I bet she gets Dess and Rex to take her to the blue time a lot.
June 12th, 2006 17:18
Can Beth go into the blue time? I thought the rip was slowly closing up, and so that would be the only time Beth could see Jess. Anyway Rob, your predicament sounds like the whole X-Men thing, seriously. Have you watched X3? You should, and see how easily it could happen with Midnighters. Really.
June 12th, 2006 18:11
That was the only time Beth could go into midnight. The rip was in the process of closing, if she went again she could get stuck too. Besides, Jessica wouldn’t be there, she was traveling with Melissa and Jonathan.
June 13th, 2006 00:34
Yea it kinda does nice observation. And alissa you should join the forum.
June 13th, 2006 01:29
But there are other ways to get into the blue time than that one rip. Remember Sherrif Micheals? There are other weak places in the blue time, and Dess probably could find them easily. But, yeah, Jessica wouldn’t be there so Beth would probably not choose to go to the blue time. It would be too sad.
June 13th, 2006 05:12
All I can say is…Wow…not exactly how I thought it would end…(The realm of the midnight hour either being erased, or rejoin the other 24 hours)…but, wow…Jess now a being of pure darkling kick-butt power, and Rex’s struggle to stay human…Perfect ending…I mean this is the type of ending that gets people to create online-role play to continue the story, everybody wishing they were midnighters, soon to be found by Jess and the others…
June 13th, 2006 15:44
Cassandra and Alissa join the new forum. And all you other peeps too.
June 13th, 2006 18:14
Hey Cass, I dunno if anyone could enter again. I mean, maybe the Sherriff could only enter cuz the rip was already opening? Like, was the rip slowly opening throughout the years and speed-up that particular year, or did the rip choose to suddenly open in that year?
June 14th, 2006 01:04
Oh yes they could. I’m going to Blue Noon for textual evidence:
“Sheriff Michaels?” Jonathan asked. “That guy who disapeared?”
Everyone was quiet for a moment.
Some time ago-before Jessica or even Jonathan, had moved to Bixby- the town sheriff had vanished out in the desert. Only his gun and badge had been found, along with his teeth and all their fillings- the darkling-proof, high-tech alloys of dentistry.
The rumor was he’d been killed by drug dealers, but between Rex’s lore and her careful mapping of the blue time, Dess understood what really happened.
She cleared her throat. “Well, you know that darklings have to eat, right? Even if they only live one hour in twenty-five, predators still need prey to stay alive. Normal animals can strp through into the blue time if they’re in the wrong spot at exactly midnight. So darklings mostly eat unluvky rabbits and cows, but every once in a while a human being slips through.”
“Madeleine noddd. “We sometimes brought daylighter allies through so that they could see the blue time for themselves. A special treat.”
“…Rex muttered. “And you said the eclipse was focused around these contortions?”
Slowly Madeleine’s wrinkled hands drew shapes on the scratched table. “Not exactly, Rex. What the eclipse seemed to do was make more of them.”
(Westerfeld, scott, Blue Noon, Copyright 2005, HarperCollins Publishers, pages 58-59)
That rip wasn’t the only weak space in the blue time. It was created by the timequake-eclipse. There were others that Sheriff Micheals, unlucky cows and rabbits, and the old Midnighters’ daylighter allies were able to slip through.
June 14th, 2006 01:06
Not that Beth would want to come through if Jessica wasn’t there.
June 14th, 2006 22:25
Cool. Especially love the siting reference. Lol, I hate have to do bibliographies in assignments.
June 19th, 2006 04:55
No one has posted in forever! Well, not forever, just 345,600 seconds (Aproximately). Someone say something.
June 19th, 2006 13:46
Please?!
June 19th, 2006 14:23
Ok, how about why do darklings have no problem with plastic? It’s newer than steel, but they don’t seem to mind it. Although killing darklings with a hunting knife is a fair bit more impressive than killing them with, say, a toothbrush.
June 20th, 2006 19:37
That’s cuz we’re all talking about this stuff on westerboard.com.
June 21st, 2006 11:36
I’ve been wondering about that too. I’m not sure why they’re fine with plastic, but when Dess is first explaining things to Jessica she says that darklings don’t like new metals so I guess that plastic doesn’t count or something like that. Or maybe the old midnighters used plastic so much that the darklings got used to it, like they got used to obsidian spearheads and forged metals like bronze and iron. And yeah, it doesn’t seem as intimidating.
June 21st, 2006 19:35
Plastic probably isn’t as complicated to make… or something?
June 27th, 2006 04:10
Scott I have a question, (my friend and I have been arguing over this so please help us end it). In Blue Noon it says Jess knew touching the lightening would change everything. She says that mean Jess knew she’d be stuck in Blue Time, I think she’s crazy. What did you mean by that? Thanks!
July 1st, 2006 13:09
I thought that Jessica knew that touching the lightning would have undesirable consiquences(how many people are going to count the letters in those words?) but she wouldn’t know exactly what was going to hapen. Although, even if she did Jess would probably still have gone ahead and saved the world.
By the way, I just finished Uglies. It was great. Hoverboarding has thirteen letters. I’m to the point where I always count the letters, no matter what book it is.
July 1st, 2006 13:12
Opps, hoverboarding is supposed to be two words. Oh well.
July 2nd, 2006 01:38
Hey Scott,
Since it is highly unlikely that you will write another Midnighters book (although I haven’t given up yet) maybe you could tell us if midnight really did spread so that its everywhere. Dess wasn’t really sure if it had or not.
It doesn’t seem like it would matter, but if Jonathan, Melissa, and Jessica are traveling and seeing how far the blue time goes, and it hasn’t spread to the entire world then they might accidently travel out of the blue time which would have two consequences. One, Melissa and Jonathan might fall from high up and Two, Jessica would fold up and since midnight would never come there she would be gone forever:( That would be so sad and I’ve been wondering for ages if midnight is everywhere.
July 12th, 2006 01:45
Triskaidekaphobia
No Triskaidekaphobia is not a 13 letter word, or a 12 letter word, or a 24 letter word, or even a 26 letter word. Than why am I bothering to post this?
Triskaidekaphobia- Fear of the number 13
I finally found the scientific name for the darklings fear of the number 13. Its kind of interesting, even though I think I am the only one who reads this anymore.
July 13th, 2006 18:06
No, I still read it. It’s just the shortage of people posting… Hey Scott, if the halfling was there all the time, and the Greyfoots were in contact with it, why didn’t Melissa taste it sooner? You’d think she would have noticed a darkling that thought like a midnighter right away.
July 14th, 2006 06:57
kno wats so weird triskadecaphobia was the vocab word of the week wen i was i 5th grade and i totally forgot about it until now
July 19th, 2006 19:30
It’s cuz we’re all on westerboard.com!!!
July 20th, 2006 16:57
Oh , wow. There are a lot of comments on this.
I didn’t read all of them, but I would join in the soul contributions if that would help with you writing another book.
I think the idea of moving into cities would be interesting, getting lots of people involved.
I don’t think Jessica watching her friends get old and die would be fair, even if she did get to meet Tally.
Don’t kill Jon! Please. That would be almost as bad as Dumbledore dying, and I’m still in denial about that, similar to my denial about Jessica.
I think Jess can reunite with her friends (Rex and Melissa need to be together, Dess needs a guy, and you can’t abandon Jonathan- he’ll go insane, probably bi-polar) when the world ends again, and in a “risk I have to take” scenario we will lose hope before things work out well enough that they are neither cheesy nor depressing. Even if Jess and Jon have to be stuck in the blue time together, that’d be good. Actually, that’d be great, because then Jon could fly for all of his time. And he’d never drop Jess again. (Cheesy ending line)
On a tangent, I bet it was all a very sneaky plan and Dumbledore isn’t really dead. They just did it so he could have some time to himself (much like when he left while Umbridge was aorund) and could achieve the same shock-everyone-out-of-their-sheltered-blindness thing that was achieved when the Waynes were killed in Batman Begins.
I love the books, though. Please do either a sequel or a whole new trilogy (that’d make my life) so we can all have closure. In the meantime, ON TO FANFICS! (And Uglies, which I haven’t read yet.) =D
July 22nd, 2006 18:26
Here’s a new theory, Scott:why don’t you write a new Midnighters trilogy that takes place in a different town with entirely different characters? You could add some new talents, and they could run into Melissa, Jonathan and Jessica while they’re travelling looking for new Midnighters.
July 23rd, 2006 01:37
If Triskaidekaphobia was spelled Tridecaphobia it would be a thirteen letter word and Darklings would be afraid of the word that describes their fear.
July 29th, 2006 10:29
Hello all.
I cried. It was sad.
Okay, Scott, so when is the fourth midnighter book coming out? Because you KNOW there will be one….*glare* and you KNOW there will be an awesome polymath named Laine in it *glare* aww, jk, that would be awesome but I love your books anyway….
Okay, I not ONLY have the full list of 13-letter-words, I also have the list of 15, 502 11-letter-words, because you know, to me, 11 is my own little thing and 11s are very lucky.
I got myself into trouble.
A lot of trouble.
Basically, I created my own dating system and time zone because I just felt like it (do you know that our dating system is about 5 years off now? so I corrected it…) and as a nice little side effect I pushed my birthday to midnight. (AAH! I feel like Madeleine!)
Of course, I hadn’t read Blue Noon when I did this.
I didn’t yet realize that stupid me made today October 29th.
That is very bad.
That means that at 10:02 pm on this Sunday, it’s midnight on October 31st/November 1st. Very very bad.
And, of course, my friend is going to North Carolina, to a spot along the 36th parallel. On Sunday. On Samhain. Yeah.
July 29th, 2006 10:30
Oh, yeah, I’ll donate my soul too, for what I asked. For a fourth book with a polymath named after me. I’ll donate my whole SCHOOL’S souls, while I’m at it, actually….AND my whole town….and 15,502 knives named with 11-letter words….pretty please? (intentional use of the word pretty there)
August 1st, 2006 08:03
M is the thirteenth letter of the alphabet.
M is for Midnight, Midnighter, Melissa, Madeline, Martinez, Mindcaster, and Metalurge.
There needs to be a fourth book. This will be the 461st post. If this many people are interested, you HAVE TO write another one. It would have MAGNIFICENTLY MASTERMINDING MARKETABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you wouldn’t want me to look up all those Tridecalogisms for nothing.
August 1st, 2006 08:09
I know that wasn’t the best word choice, but there are only 460 tridecalogisms that start with the letter M, so you can’t be too picky. In shorT.
WRITE MORE BOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2006 11:00
my middle name starts with an M???
THANK YOU CASSANDRA. I WORSHIP THE GROUND YOU WALK ON. YOU AGREE WITH ME.
We should make a 4th-book petition!! email me at icecarl04@msn.com
August 2nd, 2006 19:34
I think everyone agrees with you.
And I reckon it’s extremely funny how everyone is obsessed with the whole metalurge thing. It was mentioned, what, once in the book? And everyone picked up on this tiny little detail and went, WHAT IS A METALURGE? IT’S SO DAMN COOL! and bombarded Scott with questions. And Scott’s thinking, ‘Crap… quickly, brain, make up answers!’
August 3rd, 2006 05:13
It’s because everyone is so starved for more kinds of midnighters that they’ll do anything to get even a scrap of info. If Scott had mentioned other kinds of midnighters, chances are everyone would be obsessed with them.
August 3rd, 2006 21:39
yeah, we are. we are so midnighter-hungry that i even obsessed over the DESS BLOG because it was another what–2 pages?!–of midnighters.
August 4th, 2006 06:57
Yeah, there should be more of that one. I’m horrible with math, but it’s still funny. And the tridecalogism of the day has been “blamelessness” for as long as I’ve been visiting this site lol.
August 5th, 2006 22:59
erm hi
August 9th, 2006 11:56
Hey Scott I left coments under another name b4 in Specials . . . You only have like a million coments so IDK if you’ll ever read this, plus the fact it’s totaly off topic but . . . You’re totaly funny! And my libray dosent have your books yet so I’m totaly going broke buying all your books I can get my hands on, and your getting totaly rich on all my money! So there you have it! I love your books and I’m sure you love my money! LOL!
August 10th, 2006 01:03
yeah, you know, i have forced 3 different libraries to buy your books, plus i have bought them myself. IF you wrote another Uglies or Midnighters book, I promise you I will force EVEN MORE libraries to buy them!!!! (plus myself, plus all my friends, family and teachers….i will make you much money….)
August 11th, 2006 01:00
Oh! I feel so bad for Jessica the ending made me cry and everyone leaving it just makes me feel more depressed. You should deffinately be writing a fourth volume! Everyone agrees’ come on you can’t just leave everyone hanging around with darklings! Ekk! Its no fair! Lol
August 13th, 2006 00:39
When you think about it, why would someone come to this site if they haddn’t really liked the books and wanted a fourth one. This is the 472 comment. That is alot of posts.
WRITE MORE MIDNIGHTERS BOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2006 04:54
a lot of people want more books, scott, a LOT of people…
August 16th, 2006 12:55
Including me. Ihave read the series three times so far, and it had yet to become boring. You really need another book, that way, all your readers will have something to keep them satisfied. Even if only for a few hours in my case, since I have read all your books in like, one afternoon. Different days of course, but they were just that good.
August 20th, 2006 16:06
They r all correct Scott. Sorry for not coming on in months. But most everyone wants a new book (or two, hint hint. wink wink). Please write another. And what about the Midnighters series. And So Yesterday movie? I haven’t been on so is there anything new about those???
August 21st, 2006 06:36
Yeah, did the TV show idea go anywhere?
August 21st, 2006 06:41
The TV show doesn’t look good. The WB got combined with UPN into something called CW, which means that two networks had to get squished down into one.
On the subject of more books, it doesn’t seem likely right now.
August 23rd, 2006 12:59
What do you mean “it doesn’t seem likely”?????????? its likely if you want it to be likely. Everyone says you should write more, so WRITE MORE. Come on. Please! At least do another Dess Blog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23rd, 2006 17:24
Yeah, don’t tell us Dess ran out of opinions. It’s just one of those things that doesn’t happen, like the sun not rising.
August 25th, 2006 11:13
And you never did tell us if Midnight really was everywhere.
August 25th, 2006 21:34
Scott. *sigh*. I swear, you should write a short story each, one for the epilogue to the Uglies trilogy and one for Midnighters. And just post them on your website. Or at least make another Dess blog. Scott, I am desperate, I’ve already begun the having-dreams-about-what-happens-after-the-book-ends stage, soon I’ll get to the having to write the books myself. Which I don’t like doing, because then I feel like they’re never as good as they would be if you wrote them. Or you could post something on your site where people could write to you and you would write back as different characters, you know what I mean? So we–us devoted readers–could interview Tally, for example, or Melissa…..
August 26th, 2006 16:28
Lol. Stop bothering the man! At this rate, he won’t even get Leviathon done!
Scott, did you ever buy that hoverboard thing?
August 27th, 2006 08:25
Wow, the end of the book was AMAZING and i would love to see more books like the rest of us! Reading your books made me appreciate math ALOT more, and for fun sometimes i try to think up some cool anti-darkling weapons or name my jewlery ^^. The only thing i look down on is the way it makes fun of 13-year-olds *cough* we arent that incompenent. LOOK AT ME! Im useing words like incompenent *cry*
August 27th, 2006 11:07
i’d rather he wrote more of this lol
September 2nd, 2006 07:21
Oh please please please let there be more – it seems like there is so much more to tell. I finished Blue Noon last night and was utterly depresseed….
but it was really good!!!
September 3rd, 2006 11:27
I kinda killed it for me checking this out but I live in a rural town so I won’t be reading them for a while! The Ugly Triolodgy was ausome and so was peeps and I’ve just started Midnighters, but I’m not sure I want to finish it….
September 3rd, 2006 23:45
“I’m not sure I want to finish it…”
Yeah you do. Even if you know what happens, I knew and I still felt satisfied by reading it.
September 5th, 2006 00:01
You want to finish it. Trust me. When I first saw Blue Noon I wasn’t sure I wanted to finish it and I did anyway and now I’m really ashamed that I ever considered not reading such a wonderful book.
Authentically Superpowerful Wonderfulness!
September 5th, 2006 05:17
Yeah, way worth finishing. Midnighters has got to be the best trilogy I have ever read. Sure, it has it’s low points (like the fact that it ended) but you definitely want to finish it.
September 11th, 2006 02:51
I am so stupid for not realizing this sooner. At least part of the reason stainles steel works better than plastic is that
S-T-A-I-N-L-E-S S-T-E-E-L has thirteen letters and
P-L-A-S-T-I-C only has seven.
E-L-E-C-T-R-L-Y-T-I-C has twelve letters, so I don’t think electrolytic titanium will be quite as effective as Dess thought it would be.
Also Flame-bringer has thirteen letters if you count the hyphon.
September 12th, 2006 09:43
Possible, but darklings were afraid of steel long before it got it’s english name, and they did mention that it’s new alloys and things like that that darklings are afraid of, so you’d think since plastic is way newer than steel it would work. But that fact that it doesn’t may have to do with the fact that it’s made from petrolium.
September 14th, 2006 12:12
But stainless steel is sort of like a name that society has givin that type of object. So mabye its sort of like it has two names, the tridecalogism dess gives it and the name for the type of object, or maybe it doesn’t matter at all.
September 15th, 2006 08:08
Could be… guess the only way to tell is to see if it works as well in France lol.
September 15th, 2006 10:12
Hey, in history we’re learning about ancient civilizations, and apearantly the Sumerians were the ones that decided there should be 360 degrees in a circle and 60 minutes in a hour. They based their entire number system on 6. They obviously did not live in a region with midnight
Or, back in 3200 B.C. darklings were afraid of the number six, so the Sumerians were really smart and started using it a lot, but after about 5,000 years the darklings got used to 6 and all multiples of 6 especially 12, so midnighters got all obsessed with 13, but the rest of the world is still stuck with a 6-based number system
Or maybe I’m just thinking too much:)
September 15th, 2006 10:13
my second paragraph was all one sentence lol
September 15th, 2006 10:44
Ever hear of Atland? It was a place near Britain that was destroyed thousands of years ago. The legends regarding it say that it was destroyed by some kind of comet hitting the earth, and that in the process it modified the earth’s orbit so that instead of the previous 360-day year the year became 365 days. Matches the Egyptian myth that the year was 360 days before one of the gods won enough light from the moon gambling to create five more days. I’m not a math expert, but this must have had some effect on the darklings?
September 15th, 2006 13:18
Your right, it probably had some effect on the darklings. It also might have some effect on something I’ve been wondering. If 364 is a multiple of 13 (it is I’ve checked, I’m just not quite sure what you multiply 13 by) anyway, if 364 is a multiple of 13 then why are there 12 months in a year? We could have 13 months without having to memorize any of this thirty days hath September stuff. There would just be one month that was one day longer than the others and one that was longer on leap years. I just figured whoever invented our calendar was too superstitious to have 13 months. But maybe it goes all the way back to the Egyptians when there were 360 days and there could be 12 months with 30 days each, evenly.
That’s going way back though.
September 15th, 2006 16:21
It’s 13×28, I think.
September 16th, 2006 13:50
Thats right, because there are 13 full moons in one year, one every 28 days.
September 16th, 2006 18:28
Comment number 500! Yeah, had to post just for the sake of that lol. Hey Cassandra, do you know what month this year’s blue moon was supposed to be?
September 17th, 2006 00:46
oops,
there’s only 13 full moon SOME years. Oh no. This is the year there are 12!!! The next blue moon will be in June of 2007, the first full moon being on June 1st and the second on June 30th (there’s actually a full moon every 29.5 days, not 28) Oh well
2002 is a multiple of 13. So is 2015
September 17th, 2006 08:29
Cool. The day I was born was a blue moon, too.
September 18th, 2006 01:47
1:00P.M. is the thirteenth hour of the day.
1:13 and 13 seconds is 13 hour, 13 minutes, and 13 seconds after midnight.
That was random but oh well
September 22nd, 2006 09:38
Yes, I know this is off-topic, but reading So Yesterday (which is really great, by the way) I noticed something: Scott, you just can’t stand it when we have everything figured out. It’s a repeating trend in Pretties, Peeps, So Yesterday, and Midnighters that just as soon as we get everything straightened out you go and change something lol. And I also noticed the reacurring theme of how frighteningly easy people are to manipulate. Parasites, mindcasters, brain surgery, and what’s in, it all comes down to the “look how easily you can be controlled”. It’s all very cool.
September 23rd, 2006 00:57
I’ve read So Yesterday too, (still of topic) and I’ve noticed some things mentioned in both So Yesterday and Midnighters too
In The Secret Hour Rex explained the darkling’s number phobia by comparing it to epilepsy, which is also more-than-mentioned in So Yesterday
In Touching Darkness Dess makes Weapons of Math Destruction(my favorite chapter) by writing numbers in Phonecian, which I know from So Yesterday started the whole purple=royalty thing (Dess’s room is purple)
And I know there are others (I just can’t think of them right now)
September 23rd, 2006 00:59
Oh, in Uglies Tally and David go hoverboarding together, which is sort of like Jessica and Jonathan flying.
September 23rd, 2006 01:26
Is Peeps good? (Its basically the only scott westerfeld book I haven’t read)
September 23rd, 2006 06:21
Yeah, Peeps is one of the best, as far as I’m concerned (right after Midnighters). The whole aplying science to vampires is brilliant.
And yeah, I’ve noticed the same random info comes up in a lot of Scott’s books. But how can you blame him? Phoenicia is cool! Even the name is cool.
September 23rd, 2006 07:49
Yeah, in class we had to learn about how the Phonicians wrote our alohabet, and there was only one line in the textbook about purple dye.
September 24th, 2006 06:17
Don’t you think its kind of ironic that Jessica’s last name is DAY when most of the story takes place at NIGHT?
September 25th, 2006 02:46
Hey I finished the book over the summer and didn’t acuttually no this was here i no kinda blind i guess meaning im on this website 24/7 (or 25/7 lol). But the idea for a 4th book ain’t that bad i mean i’ve been cryin over Jessica for 4 months. My twins name is Jessica and i wonder what she thought about that (lol). i jus finished the last days last night good book.
September 27th, 2006 21:38
there’s also a Maddy in both books. A Maddy who’s an annoying, controlling,——–*Starts ranting* woman….
September 30th, 2006 14:23
There’s also a Mandy in So Yesterday
QUESTION FOR SCOTT!!!
September 30th, 2006 14:27
hey, it submitted halfay through my post.
Anyway, is there any reason Jessica wouldn’t be able to use a camera in the secret hour and get a picture of a darkling?
October 1st, 2006 06:47
Yeah, I was thinking that too. I always thought it would be a good joke if Jess took Ernesto’s camera and filled it with pictures of darklings, then got it back in his hand before midnight ended. Might scare him away altogether.
October 1st, 2006 16:38
I must say that I love the Midnighters series–not so much the ending. I finished it today, sorry it took so long to discover you, in the mall which wasn’t the smartest thing on my part. I was of course bawling and it’s nice to know that I wasn’t alone. It was pretty intense though, I’m standing in the middle of the mall and everyone around me probably though someone died. But I did stop by Godiva Chocolate and that helped wash the sorrows of an unhappy ending wash away, but I’ll have you know ONLY SLIGHTLY!!
LOVE THE BOOKS,
Sam
October 7th, 2006 14:08
Hey, if Jessica could drive a car durring midnight and Jonathan was sitting in it, would the entire car get lighter, or just his seat? He is only directly touching the seat but when flying Jonathan is only touching Jessica’s hand and her entire body becomes weightless, not just her hand. It would be cool if Jonathan and Jessica could fly a car from one town to another, or at least go faster than normal or something.
October 7th, 2006 14:10
Oh, there is a Jen in Midnighters (friend of Constaza’s) just like there is a Jen in So Yesterday. And http://www.socialsecurity.gov is a real website and you can get name popularity info.
October 7th, 2006 14:30
Jessica’s hand is directly attached to her body, and the seat isn’t really directly attached to the car, so I don’t think it would work. Remember in Touching Darkness, Jonathan was in a car when midnight hit, and it didn’t get any lighter, only he did. But I still think Jessica could drive, that would be so cool (and it would have saved Melissa a head injury).
October 8th, 2006 00:47
Early in this forrum (post 170) someone spotted the problem that Jessica couldn’t had Dess the flare at the end because the rip wasn’t there yet. I’ve been thinking, if a light is on before the blue time came it would go out during the secret hour and then come on again when the midnight is over. What if when Jessica lights the flare while she’s in the rip and then steps out of the rip and lets go it will go out but if the rip catches up to it would it light up again? Then Dess could have held the flare up to the fuse and lit the fireworks when the rip got there. Probably not but its the only explination I could think up.
October 14th, 2006 05:28
Just wanted to let you,Scott, know that I love how you base most of your books on historical things and science. Things that are made up came from something real. That is totally awesome making to me!
October 14th, 2006 05:31
I am in desperate need of a good book!!!
I have read all of your books though….
Anyone know of an author that is almost at least half as good as Scott? Cause I cant find anyone!
Probably cause there isnt!!
Your the best but please make more!!!
October 14th, 2006 06:55
Tally, have you read any Garth Nix books?
October 15th, 2006 01:10
No! Are they good? I will try them. thanks
October 15th, 2006 10:59
Yeah, they’re great. The Abhorsen trilogy and Shade’s Children are the best.
October 16th, 2006 02:24
Great suggestion! Thanks went to Barnes and Noble yesterday and started to read the Abhorsen Trilogy.
October 16th, 2006 05:43
A lump in my throat grew because the ending was unexepected. I worried about this depression,” How was Scott Westerfeld going to sum up a triology in a couple of pages”. Even though this was a tradegy, I think you’re given this reassurance that everyone is going to be okay through actions, thoughts,diction and dialect, but I loved the last words from Dess”It was way cool being the one who did the math.”Mesmorizing and brilliant.The ending of a series says alot about the writer.Can you say movie?Jessica’s going to get out of the secret hour, not when Jonathan’s close to death, in about a year or 2 max.One book please!
October 16th, 2006 09:35
I agree with u,Demensiona. I mean, they are going out to find other midnighters and their powers right? So I think that they are going to find someone that can convert midnight folk to daylight and vise versa. That could lead to disaster though cause darklings could be freed, but lets just say this person is good and only releases Jess. LOL
October 17th, 2006 10:51
In my mind I have the perfect music selection for the midnight epilogue if it were turned into a movie.At the starting of the epilogue, they would play Mogwai’s “summer”, and then when it comes to the last page with Dess, they would play a cooler up beat song like the killers, “on top”, or the one by radiohead but I’m not sure of the title, something about every sin or something.It would be perfect. Then the credit’s up to whomever, maybe radiohead’s,”How to be invisible.”
October 17th, 2006 10:57
Hey completely random but what does it mean Scott and everyone when other people snort?I’ve seen it in most if not all of the novels. Does it mean immortality?Well what ever it is,I thinks its pretty cool.Its a definite Scott Westerfeld trademark and or custom.
October 17th, 2006 22:01
…What?
Immortality?
A snort is a sign of sarcasm, disbelief, ‘yeah, right’, right?
Lol.
October 18th, 2006 04:05
like OMG, i couldn’t believe that jessica ended up frozen during reg. time. i felt so sad for jonathan…..
only having his g/f for only an hour…. i wonder how jessica ans jonathan will handle it wen she turns 19 and he is lik majorly OLD….. only living and hour a day would really bring me down.
October 31st, 2006 12:36
I loved all the midnighters books, but the third one i was a little upset when it just ended the way it did. And i can tell from all the other comments that everyone else agrees with me about this. i REALLY hope scott writes a fourth book. I mean what happens to Dess, Rex amd Madaline in Bixby, where does Jonathen and Mellisa. AND WHAT HAPPENS TO JESSICA DAY. does she stay in midnight or does Rex or anyone else finds a way out. Also Madaline mentioned somthing about other powers that were out there. Personaly I wont to see what happeneds to Jess and what her new powers do to Darklings. just to some this up. I WANT TO SEE A FOURTH BOOK…please.
October 31st, 2006 13:30
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2006 08:43
Me too, PlEASE! And Scott, could you make another series, I’m running out! Please and thank you!
November 2nd, 2006 10:19
Did everyone have a happy Halloween/All Hallow’s Eve/Samhain/Feast of Souls/Sadowfest/Death of the Sun/Old Crone/Day of the Dead?
November 3rd, 2006 08:40
Sure Cassandra, how about you? Isn’t this day light savings stuff so cool! It’s as if we have 25 hours a day, I love it!
November 3rd, 2006 09:53
Real midnight is at one a.m. now. “Lousy daylight savings time.”(Westerfeld, Scott, The Secret Hour, page 90)
November 4th, 2006 07:53
Noted, but at it kind of feels as 25 hours.
November 4th, 2006 07:56
sorry for the typo, ” BUT IT FEELS LIKE 25 HOURS”.
November 5th, 2006 04:37
First of all, i loved the Midnighters. It has to have been one of the best series i have read yet. it took me about 6 days to read the whole series and even got in trouble a couple of times for reading in class.Second, the ending made me sad but not as sad as the ending of the Specials. I know you have heard this (or read) a ton of times but i would love it if you wrote another book. Thats all i can think of but i will probably end up like all the others on here. Oh and you really should get a chat bored seciton on this website.
Thanks for the great books.
November 9th, 2006 08:42
you’re totally right weazle, the midnighters is probably the best series so far and, this website, SHOULD, have a chat board on this section.
November 12th, 2006 00:36
Urgh i seriously couldn’t care less about Jess but melissa and rex have get back together (even if they didn’t technically break up) them leaning eachother was soooo unfair!!!! and there should be more dess. Definetley more dess.
November 12th, 2006 08:31
Jessica and Johnathan are in a truely difficult scenario. Melissa and Rex have great chemistry that should be greater explored. If there are more books in the future, it would be interesting if Dess found a love intrest( maybe ironically someone normal). Though I don’t know, Dess is pretty independent, she’s smart. I wonder if scott, if he continues the series, will make the following books as another segment or label. Will he finish right where he left off or age the midnihters a bit?
November 13th, 2006 06:00
i also want to find out dess and melisa’s last names. does anyone actually know?!
November 13th, 2006 07:09
Their last names weren’t mentioned? I could’ve sworn they were, maybe I was jut imagining them.
November 13th, 2006 12:36
The only one who knows their names is Scott.
November 15th, 2006 08:38
You’re right Cassandra, but couldn’t he share? If the series is going to be continued, Scott should go into more depth of Johnathan, Melissa, and Dess’s family and personal background.Wait,I forget, I know that Johnathan’s mom walked out on him but is she dead, or did scott never say?
November 15th, 2006 09:27
Extendable microphone stand:$60
Constanza’s party clothes:$200
Melissa’s new windshield:$300
All the fireworks in Bixby:$10,000
Seeing Rex and Melissa pull up in a pink Cadillac: Priceless
November 16th, 2006 15:23
Very cute Alissa!, Hey does anyone know if there’s been any talk of a MIDNIGHTERS movie? Or more info on the possible show?
November 22nd, 2006 06:22
I was satisfied with the ending…because IO love midnighters too much to hate Scott for writing a trilogy and not a series…it was originally intentioned to be a trilogy, correct?
November 24th, 2006 02:48
very, very true! rex in a pink cadillac. truly priceless.
omg, i just finished blue noon and now i’m majorly depressed! there had BETTER be another book coming out!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2006 07:38
ok omg Scott u have got 2 write another 2 or 10 books since u’v ended the midnighters series i’ve had 2 go back 2 Harry Potter and that sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Taras friend who cares about “intentionally” he can just change the word “trilogy” to “long series” and Katlyn i know what u mean a part darkling in his mothers mary kay pink cadillac oh and scott u really know how to wright a character to fall in love with i mean how much more adorable can Jonathan Martinez get
November 24th, 2006 07:40
and man yall wright alot contact me at lilmissmeg12@yahoo.com just make sure to tell me ur from this website
November 26th, 2006 03:09
*is pissed off* God, I wish Westerfeld had just let Jessica die. Now I’m all depressed because I keep thinking of poor Jonathan being almost ancient and Jessica all young and…and…ARRRRGHHH!!! This sucks! I mean, yeah, the end meeting with Beth was very soppy and sweet, but it’s a temporary sweetness, you know?
A sequel would be totally awesome, but for some reason I doubt there’s going to be one. *shifty eyes* I mean, with the blue time spreading all over the world…
Oh yeah. Darkling Rex kicks ass. I totally loved how he struggled to keep his darkling side in check, with the whole predator/prey thing going on. Anyway. I’ve run out of inane comments to make, and now I have to go curl up in a corner and sob for poor Jessica and Jonathan. And then I’ll eat some chocolate, and feel better because chocolate always gets me all sugar high. MMMmmm.
November 26th, 2006 07:45
Death is so permanent, I think being caught in an dimension leaves hope. I think that the dimension scenario would not have been as depressing in Jonathan was trapped with Jessica. But I think Jessica should have told Beth to tell her parents about what had happened(they’d probably put Beth in a mental ward), but I believe the parent deserve some sort of closure.Oh, and Darkling Rex is totally awesome.
solutions for avoiding depression are: avoid listening to Mogwai’s “Take me somewhere nice”,recite Dess’s last words in your head, and convince yourself that Jessica will get out of the dimension before Johnathan ages, and that there’s hope for an continuation.
November 27th, 2006 07:35
HI. Tara’s Friend, do I kno you, or it a differant Tara? hmmm….
November 27th, 2006 07:38
I’m on ur computer w/ u! Moron. Anyways, Scott know’s me as ‘Tara’s Friend’ because u let me talk to him from ur email.
Well, they would have to reprint all of the other Midnighters books, because they say: Midnightewrs Trilogy and have the number of the book on it.
November 28th, 2006 14:24
Maybe Jess’s parents would believe her if she wrote a letter to them? I’m not sure what she would say to convince them, but at least they would have some idea. Plus, I’m 99.9999999% sure that pencils work in the blue time.
November 28th, 2006 14:37
smart idea,I beat the parent’s recieval of the letter would be very emotional.
December 3rd, 2006 09:37
aaaaa, i read the spoilers before i read the book. I”M SO MAD AT MYSELF!!!!!! GERRRRRR!!!!
December 4th, 2006 07:23
I was soo depressed at the end off the book i wa reading it till like 3am and i just sortta sat staring wen i got to the end it was SOOO DEPRESSING!! i was V pleased wen u sed bout more books!!
December 4th, 2006 08:16
I was really sad wen i read the end of the book it was like 3am and i just sat and stared at th wall and i coundn’t sleep that night :’( But i was cheered up wen scot said about righting more books he is my favourate writer and i loved all his books!! So please scott write nothr midnighters book I DO ANYTHING!!!!
December 4th, 2006 08:24
oh yeah and scott….Will there be a midnighters movie??
December 4th, 2006 10:13
I would like to know about some movie news too.
December 10th, 2006 04:57
Percent Rank Item
(100%) 1: Melissa the Mindcaster
(21%) 2: Dess the Polymath
(13%) 3: Jonathan the Acrobat
(13%) 4: Jessica the Flame-bringer
(12%) 5: Rex the Seer
HeHe surprize surprize lol
December 16th, 2006 11:31
why dont they find a way to put jonathon in the blue time so that she is not alone forever plus since jess can learn to drive in the blue time maybe if they have to use another lightin bolt they can get ther faster
December 16th, 2006 20:37
They could do that, its accually a pretty good idea.
December 18th, 2006 06:31
Hey, on the ranking, I was Melissa the Mindcaster too! Yeah, and as for the whole Jessica stuck the Demension thing, Jonathan should’ve been stuck with Jesssica because then, the ending wouldn’t have been AS depressing. Why did it have to be Jessica though? The one person who wasn’t keen and at peace with the Secret Hour. Plus, she had the most emotional family tie down. For the rest of the Midnighters, it seems as if they are just people living in their parent’s houses.
December 18th, 2006 09:00
I don’t think Jonathan CAN get trapped in midnight. I was under the impression that that was just a flame-bringer thing.
December 20th, 2006 11:11
I loved it. Every sigle part. Except the whole getting sucked into the 25th hour. Make more, i beg of you. Make a movie. Movie would kick ass. Then maybe the whole bitch goddesss thing would come to life.
December 20th, 2006 18:39
Really? Well, didn’t a seer get trapped in midnight(Anathea)?
December 21st, 2006 13:15
Yeah, but that was a halfling thing.
December 22nd, 2006 07:46
Yeah, I guess you’re right.
December 29th, 2006 08:33
is there goin to be a 4th book
December 30th, 2006 06:05
We’re working on it, but Scott says no.
December 30th, 2006 19:07
Why no fourth book?, Does anyone know? And does anyone know if there’s going to be a definite movie and or show for the MIDNIGHTERS?
December 30th, 2006 22:24
I heard about there being a TV show for it but im not sure i really want a 4th book, blue noons a bit of a cliff hanger!
December 31st, 2006 16:03
yeah so i totally want to make a childrens book based on the midnighters saying how santa clause delivers all of his presents. its always midnight around the world sometime right? Wouldnt that be a cool story.
January 1st, 2007 03:10
that is a good point and it would be a good childrens story only thing is ’santa’ would need to be a midnighter or a halfling yey evil santa
January 1st, 2007 15:38
Thanks for the tv show news midnightmagic but as for the whole fourth book thing, I just want a reassurance that Jessica’s out of the demension or at least that Johnathan’s okay. And that Jessica’s parents can obtain some sort of closure. Other than that, I loved the ending. The whole Santa thing is cool too, Tally.
January 3rd, 2007 04:23
http://www.mania.com/52430.html
check this out it sez bout mabey maen tv show
January 5th, 2007 11:34
heyy i just finished reading midnighters for the 3rd time! wow u guys r really keeping this thing up. 582 comments!! thats gotta b some kind of record. haha
January 5th, 2007 15:45
Thanks midnightmagic. Wow, scout, you read the triology three times?, I admire you.
January 7th, 2007 04:08
yeah santa would have 2 be a midnighter his gift would be”delivering gifts” but it would be cool if his gift could be to give the other midnighters their “special midnighter” gifts. Does that make since?
January 7th, 2007 07:30
yeah sweet idea and scout ive only read it 2 times
u win!
January 9th, 2007 11:15
It was such an awesome book!! Although, as usual, his end book made me cry!! It was so sad how he made Jess stuck in midnight but it was such a brave thing to make her do, you know? (Putting her hand in the lightning … genius!!!) Scott Westerfeld is the best!!!
January 9th, 2007 11:17
It was such an awesome book!! It was so sad though … (Putting her hand in the lightning … genius!!!) Scott Westerfeld is the best!!!
January 10th, 2007 12:13
Yeah, if the whole putting her hand in the lightning thing was on the big screen, it would be truly traumatic. Midnighters is definitely my favorite triology.(Dess’s last words were amazing!)
January 13th, 2007 11:41
I LOVED the books. They were all awesome, even thought the 3rd one was a little depressing at the end. I really really really wish there was going to be a 4th book because it kind of leaves everything in the air about what is going to happen next.
January 13th, 2007 11:42
please write more!!!
January 13th, 2007 23:44
I don’t accually think there can be a 4th book because of the epilogde at the end *sniffs* unfortunatly.
January 15th, 2007 08:16
Can’t Scott at least write an Extras like he’s doing for the Uglies? Both novels left on the “endless possibilitis” predicament. That’s not fair.
January 15th, 2007 18:48
Yeah, it could even be about totally different midnighters in a different town. And then have a special guest appearance by Melissa, Jonathan and Jessica as they’re travelling, kind of like Cal and Lace in the Last Days.
January 16th, 2007 07:04
You’re absolutely right Alissa, there could be a new midnighter narrating the fourth book (Is there other talents besides the flame-bringer and seer, etc.?). And I would love to see an appearance from Melissa, Johnathan, and Jessica, in order to view their physical state and progress. Yeah, it was totally cool to see Lace and Cal in the last days.
January 17th, 2007 10:38
The only other talent actually mentioned in midnighters was Metalurge, but they did say that there are hundreds and we just never got to see them because there were so few midnighters left. So basically, infinite possiblilities!
January 18th, 2007 08:36
Really? When did they talk about Metalurge? I’m definetly going to have to read the Midnighters over again.(but I don’t mind!),Thanks!
January 18th, 2007 10:11
METALURGE? i dont remember that either. Thats interesting though, i too will read it again.
January 18th, 2007 12:12
When Madeleine mentioned how darklings could sense oil and minerals underground, “Like a Metalurge”. I think it was in Touching Darkness. She was explaining how the Grayfoots got rich from working with darklings.
January 19th, 2007 10:19
Ohhhhhhh! got ya. I didnt think of it as another talent when i was reading it, but yeah i guess it would be. thats cool.
January 21st, 2007 04:52
Thanks Alissa, you remember events well! I wonder how many times you’ve read the triology? Oh yeah Tally,it is COOL!
January 21st, 2007 07:38
I’ve read the Secret Hour twice, and Touching Darkness and Blue Noon once each. Although I’ve been meaning to read Touching Darkness again.
January 22nd, 2007 10:27
Me too, I’ve read the secret hour twice, but I definetly need to read again, Touching Darkness and Blue noon. But I’ve memorized Blue Noon’s epilogue.
January 25th, 2007 08:20
I’ve got it! An alliance between midnighters and darklings is possible if we feed them all our middle-schoolers!!! It’s a win-win situation.(Kidding. my thirteen-year-old sister was on the phone until one AM last night talking to the guy who was asking her out for his best freind. It seems like the logical explanation to eat her lol)
January 28th, 2007 13:17
Sounds logical to me too. I have a question for everyone, why does this spoiler zone feel so dead?, I think we need a show/ movie, or an EXTRAS scott! Please!
January 30th, 2007 11:02
I thought the third book was so amazing!!!!!!
I cried at the end of chapter 31 and when the book was over I realized that there would not be a 4th book. It was the end. Jessica, Melissa, and Johnathan left and Dess and Rex were on their own. I really wish there was a forth book. Anyway, it was so fantastic!!!
January 30th, 2007 11:11
I totally agree Autum.If they made a movie for each book I would see all of them!!!!!!!
I would be really interested to see how the movies would turn out if that were to happen.
January 30th, 2007 11:14
Hey Demensiona
Where did you take the midnighters personality quiz?
January 30th, 2007 14:29
Sorry, I just really want an extras or a movie, so I took it out on the zone. Sorry everybody. And if you weren’t completely sarcastic Rebecca, I took the midnighters personality quiz on the Westerboard, I’m 100 percent Melissa.
January 31st, 2007 11:18
i havent ever read midnighters blue noon but i think what i heard i wouldnt want to cry so much.i suggest thay make another before i read number 3.
im thinkinking assasanation of all others who disagree(for another book).
January 31st, 2007 11:19
anyone there!!!
January 31st, 2007 11:20
i have read book 1 and 2 thogh.
January 31st, 2007 11:37
Don’t fear Blue Noon Loverboy,you HAVE to finish the sequence. The end is bittersweet, and the overall book is awesome. And there should definetly be another book so you’ve got my positive vote.
January 31st, 2007 11:54
ok i geus ill read but have u ever had to make such a difficult decision.i met this one guy who said not to cause i would cry like crazy.Then i would go into denial.
January 31st, 2007 11:55
i think he went into denial thogh.
January 31st, 2007 12:42
i think the ending in number two is a lot more different than three.
February 1st, 2007 04:33
Woah! This was an amazing series! Just finished it last night, midnight ironically haha! Cried for aaaages, like an hour! Proper sobbing too, not just a wee tear. It was phoenomenal, a loved it. Just so sad that Jessica is trapped in the secret hour, especially for Jonothan, Beth and her parents. Loved it! Want more!!!
February 1st, 2007 11:49
Don’t worry Loverboy, I was in denial too. I made the mistake of listening to mogwai’s” Take me somwhere nice.” I was depressed for weeks but Blue Noon’s worth it! Touching darkness, I think left on a less complicated note(talking last pages). But GOOD science fiction doesn’t usually end with that simple happily ever after bit. Anyways, I loved/love MIDNIGHTERS, and like Krissy, I want more too!
February 1st, 2007 15:11
yea i geuss i want more to soon as i finsh number3.
February 1st, 2007 15:57
Yep, we all want more loverboy, and I just realized what your name means; COOL REX!( or at least I’m pretty sure that’s what you meant!). Now once you finish Blue Noon, if you don’t know already, you’ll know what my name means!(hope that wasn’t a spoiler.)
February 4th, 2007 03:40
omg when i was done the 3rd book i was like oh my flipping gawd! are you kidding me noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! this is so not fair. WRITE MORE!!!! MORE!!!! OBEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! YOU WILL WRITE MORE MIDNIGHTERS. AND COME TO PHILIADELPHIA PENNSYLVANIA TO VISIT US!! YOU MUST! OUR TOWN IS SO DARKLING! IT HAS 24 LETTERS. YOU HAVE TO COMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! OBEY MEEEEEEEEEE!!!! SAVE US FROM THE DARKLINGS HELPPPPPP MEEEEEEEE. HERE THEY COME AHHHHH RUNNNNNNN *dies of being eaten by a darkiling and being overhyper* see what happens when you only slept 3 hours last night because you and your friend where finding stainless steel knitting needles and such and reading midighters to find tridecanalisms to fight off the flipping darklings? wow we where hyper. we took pictures we’ll email them. funny stuff.
February 4th, 2007 03:49
great now my friend is killing me and trying to convince me not to email them. but i will.. muahahahahahaha!!!!!! I LOVE SLEEP DEPRAVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! our night was as i said above, writing a very odd short story having to do with a girl who has voices in her head and is going crazy but its actually a mindcaster teasing her in her head. lol. i know u think were crazy psycopathic fan girls who are very hyper…we are, and me trying to talk my friend into reading midnighters. she wont because she doesnt like to read long books.:P 381 pages isnt too many. ok mabey to someone who isnt a complete psyco obsessed bibliophile it is. (that would be me) but i will make her read it. I WILLLLLLL. i gave her a synopsis of it and she loves the story line but to her 380 some pages is a tad much. AHHHHH DARKLING WORD! AHHHHHHHHHHHH.
February 4th, 2007 03:51
(overwhelming was the darkling word but she made me change it) she doesnt think that its overwhelming (ahhhhhhhhhh) just a tad think for her
February 4th, 2007 03:52
oops thick not think i cant type.
February 4th, 2007 04:01
she’s just trying to make up excuses for me but i just don’t like to read books. i don’t no why really. i just don’t.
~AGAIN WITH THE SCITZOPHRENIA! what is with you and the voices in your head?~
*HEY the voice in my head is YOU! Leave me alone! no im not crazy i told you all that there is a mindcaster that thinks it’s
hilarious to make me think im going crazy. back to what i was saying before i was so rudely interrupted!*
but if i did decide to start reading books, yours would be at the top of my list. like she said i like the story line but i am to lazy to read a book right now.
February 4th, 2007 04:02
but she will make me someday
February 4th, 2007 04:07
im very… persuasive. muahahahaha! hahaha yeah shes not totally crazy. it had to do with our short story we wrote. i wish i was a mindcaster.
*I WISH i DIDN’T hear voices in MY HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
(o btw * means that my friend is talking)
then i could do that to her alllllllllllll the time.
February 4th, 2007 04:15
sorry we’ll stop. this has absolutly nothing to do with spoilers so good bye. *sorry i just thought it was fun to right random comments although it has nothing to do with the book cuz i didn’t read it sorry she will make me someday but not today cuz im a lazy bum BBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
yeah thats nice ok GO RANDOM COMMENTS!!!!
GO SCOTT WESTERFELD YEAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO MIDNIGHTERS WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
February 4th, 2007 06:45
Im going to actually write a comment that pertains to the story now. i will die if there is no more midnighters. i can’t live with the ending of the third book. Also Scott said that there possibly might be more to the story. I really hope that if they do turn the books into something its not a tv seires (yes i know i cant spell) they always kill things when they do that. And if they make a movie they had better stay to the story line exactly or i will incite a riot. jk. but they really had better not ruin the story (i.e. ella enchanted. now that was a total massacre of the story) that is all
February 4th, 2007 11:47
See Scott! If you don’t write another midnighters think of all the people who would die. How could you live with that many innocent lives on your conscience? Well, it was worth a try, anyway.
February 5th, 2007 09:44
deprevation of book 4 of the midnighters is causing more suffering then i thought it would. lol. ime glad that ime not alone!
February 5th, 2007 18:02
Okay… completely long obsessive theory to follow…
I was thinking of how Melissa’s mindcasting was weaker in parts of Bixby, and, though it’s been a while since I read the Secret Hour, I recall something about Johnathan not being pbotophobic until he got to Bixby, and this led me to believe that Midnighters are completely normal (powerless) away from the Blue Time.
Anyway, my mostly irrelevant point is that, with the expansion of the Blue Time, wouldn’t the Midnighters become more powerful? Because if Melissa’s powers were weaker in the weak spots of the Blue Time, they would logically be stronger in the stronger parts of the Blue Time, and with the Blue Time expanding it would probably make it a lot stronger (taking into account that it was weaker at the edges.)
Yeah… that was my random Midnighters theory. I figured since I just read all the comments on this page, I should leave one…
Just so we’re clear, I’m another obsessive fan-type person who would like another Midnighters book. *Gives cutesy, little girl look* Please? I know the begging is a getting repetitive, so I’ll leave it at that…
February 5th, 2007 18:11
I think I should explain – when I said “this led me to believe that Midnighters are completely normal (powerless) away from the Blue Time.” I was not being an idiot and neglecting the fact that Jessica and Johnathan were normal before they got to Bixby – I was considering that their powers only work in the secret hour, which left open the possibility that other Midnighters still had powers away from the Blue Time – Before I mis-represent myself again, I better say that I do not believe Midnighters away from the Blue Time have their powers. My other points in the paragraph in my other post lead me away from believing such…
Hopefully that’s clear now and you don’t all think I’m crazy…
February 6th, 2007 07:12
i just finished it
took me awhile to find one-small town
hmm
need time to contemplate
i think we all agree in a Midnighters 4, but i think another one would spoil the tone of the series
blue noon almost puts a cap on it with the cliff-hanger
sucky
i really don’t think i’ll find another series to be as obsessed over as Midnighters
gosh i loved those books
i don’t think im depressed over the ending
im just depressed that the Midnighters portion of my life is over
i did that over Harry Potter, His Dark Materials, Uglies, and countless others
i hate this period of boredom and emptiness after an extremely good book
well done, scott, well done
February 6th, 2007 09:32
hi im now obsess with the midnighters. i though i was obsessed before, but i was wrong. oh yes i was wrong. i have come to the epiphany after finding five tridecanalisms(yes i know thats wrong) in my history text book. 12 in the book i am reading now while waiting for scott to come to his senses and realize that we will all die if there iss no more midnighters and wright a new one for us. and 3 in my spanish book. and most of which i figured had 13 letters without even counting them. and my friends are starting to get anoyed when inform them of all the words i find and new theories on these books during lunch. my friends i believe i need some help. we need some midnighters anonymous where crazed fan girls (and guys im not trying to leave you out) get over their obsession.
February 6th, 2007 09:34
omg and guess what im in the school play and my script number is 13 (yes i know this absolutly random which if you read some of my posts above when i was high off of sleep depravation, that is normal for me)
February 6th, 2007 13:37
are you asking for intervention?
tell me if you find any tridecalogisms in the script
maybe you’re a polymath
and you sleep through midnight
hmm, the possibilities
ive always wondered about the different talents
there’s got to be more than five, right?
i mean rex had to have seen some others in the lore, and scott just decided that they were unessescary to the plot and were better left unmentioned
so i say we come up with some of our own talents to help him out with the new book
(ok im on your side now)
you up for the challenge?
{scott, if you’re reading this, take note how desperate your fans are to get you moving along on a fourth Midnighters}
i’ll go first-
how about a midnighter similar to a Matilda sort of thing. Maybe they can move objects with their minds – a mind similar to that of a mindcaster -
maybe this midnighter and melissa get together and pull off some pretty kick-ass stunts
maybe this is who jonathan and melissa find in the desert
maybe this midnighter and melissa find out some crazy way to get jessica back into daylight with their mindpowers
but of course this is all hypothetical – no conspiracies here
what would we call this midnighter?
it would have to be a mind-something to have that special connection with mindcasters
anyway, your turn
February 6th, 2007 14:14
Okay, here’s some of the midnighter talents I came up with working on a fanfic I’ll probably never finish:
Bonemender: can heal injuries through touch, in midnight or daylight. Pretty useful when slaying darklings (or crashing through windsheilds in the desert).
Empath: like a mindcaster, only not as strong. They can sense emotions, and tend to be a lot more understanding than mindcasters.
Soldier: basically, a darkling-fighting machine. They’re strong, fast and agile, and they tend to be very talented at martial arts. A little emotionally unstable, but they make up for it in undiluted anti-darkling power.
February 6th, 2007 14:27
i really like the bonemender one
that could come in handy big time
what were you working on when you created these?
February 6th, 2007 17:20
I’m in the middle of trying to write a midnighters fanfic. It revolves around all new midnighters in a different town. Like in the original midnighters only teenagers are left and they have to figure everything out on their own, but for entirely different reasons. I also put some focus on the possibility of darklings not necessarily being mortal enemies of midnighters (if you go back a few hundred comments you can even find the debate about that from when I first came up with the idea). Anyway, it’s nowhere near finished, and it’s slow going lol.
February 7th, 2007 01:12
thats great!, keep me posted
any other new midnighter talents, anyone?
February 7th, 2007 15:48
Well first of all, I don’t really have any incredible names like Alissa, but here’s my midnighter talents:
(1). Ignitmus-Toxin: Can make things grow(Plants,etc.) in the the blue time that produce some kind of metal toxins that weaken the darklings.
(2.)Sketcher(got to think of a better name):Draws/sketches things that they need/want(weapons).
(3.)Hypnotist: can make the darklings/slithers fall asleep by tricking them, through hypnotist, into thinking that its daytime.
(4.)Magnitus: have a sort of magnetic force that can steer slithers in a certain direction. Slithers usually follow them.They also have a gravitational force that can aide or hinder acrobats.
(5.)Screecher:The pitch of their verbal screech/scream, is as sharp as stainless steel; damages darklings/slithers hearing. Only the Darkling/slithers can hear the screeches.(They’re also musical, they can compose/play mathematical music like Bach.Drives darklings insane.)
(6.)Dream Gatherer: They act as dreamcatchers(Darklings/nightmares). They can literally view the nightmares of the past, and take notes on the darklings scare tactics(Act as a seer at times). Dream Gatherers stay in the darkling’s minds and they have no emotional fear of the darklings/slithers. And when they touch someone’s forehead, that person for a certain period a time will be released from their greatest nightmares. Darklings usually keep their distance away from them.
(7). And some talent should be invisibility.
February 7th, 2007 16:32
Demensiona, SO COOL! Love the magnitus, would make the perfect bad boy-type character who’s not really evil but who causes a lot of trouble for the midnighters (Ex. making Jonathan fall out of the sky/float around without being able to come down). In the inventing of my fanfic I had a halfling who was mostly human and in midnight had black angel wings, and slithers followed her, too. And the dream-gatherer is cool too. And the idea of a musical midnighter is great.
February 7th, 2007 16:35
The invisible one can be called an Illusionist, maybe?
February 8th, 2007 12:14
Thanks Alissa, magnitus would be that bad boy/girl type that would add some great comic relief. Oh and I love your halfling, I think the slithers following any midnighter around is pretty fawesome. And how did you come of w/ the name Empath Alissa, ITS Fool!And my favorite midnighter of yours is soldier. Gives me that awesome Shades Children(novel by Garth Nix) feeling. Yeah and the invisble one should definetly be called illusionist.
February 8th, 2007 13:14
Thanks so much. Empath is used all over the place for people who can read emotions but not thoughts, it just kind of fit. I love Shade’s Children. The Soldier is my personal fave too. The idea of a character who based her entire life around fighting was something I really liked, and I’ve been working on the character for a while, so midnight gave the perfect opportunity.
February 8th, 2007 15:20
You’re very welcome Alissa! Interesting ,Empath, new vocab! I loved Shade’s Children too,the ending almost depressed me as much as Midnighters, but Gold eye’s vision reassured me that everything/everyone was ultimately okay(plus Ella and Drum smiled when they went away). And I admire that idea of that kind of character, so yeah, what better opportunity to emerge in rather than in the Blue time? Boy I love Midnighters! There’s so much to do w/ it/them.
February 9th, 2007 07:56
i think that your mindmover talent is called telecenisis. im trying to think of a wicked awsome kick ass power. ive got a few but the r kind of stupid. one is flamethrower(tridecagolism) this person has control over fire and shoot fire and stuff that has to do with heat at things. this would be sweet but it kind of encroches on jessicas power. the other would be kind of the same but only substitute fire for ice.
February 9th, 2007 07:58
oh and to keep you posted on my dess like polymath skills i didnt find any in the script but have started a note book full of the ones i find. so far i have 93. yes i have no life. cross that i have a life. its just chock full of midnighter stuff
February 9th, 2007 07:59
by the way, i started the notebook yesterday. none of them are repetes from the book
February 9th, 2007 08:12
Hi my friend i am the emo salamander is going to talk now
February 9th, 2007 08:15
i have never read the midnighters but i heard they are just super! i started reading them a few days ago and like mc donalds, im lovin it! also, im iminlovewithjonathon’s friend! im sooo kool more kool than iminlovewithjonathon! and theres this emo kid at our school that reminds sooooooooooo much of rex…Rex is HOT! salamanders forever!!!!!!!!!!
February 9th, 2007 08:16
never mind i dont know her.lol
February 9th, 2007 08:16
kool iminlovewithjonathon…koooool…
February 9th, 2007 08:16
i already said that b4 and i told u that. you stole my comment!
February 9th, 2007 08:17
well la da flippin da!
February 9th, 2007 08:17
i said jonathan salamak looked like rex. and i dont like salamak i like jonathan from the book. u love salamak
February 9th, 2007 08:18
WE LOVE YOU SCOTT WESTERFELD!!!!!!!!!!!!! *INSERT CRAZED FAN GIRL SCREAM HERE*
February 9th, 2007 08:19
salamanders are soooo kool! bet everyone reading this thinks that im crazy…well your right,i m crazy.but i got the name from my fellow classmate whose last name sounds like slamander…
February 9th, 2007 08:19
im getting all my friends to read the midnighters and they will all be devistated when they read the third book and realize hat there is no more. just like me *tear*
February 9th, 2007 08:20
so write more midnighters PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM DYING HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 9th, 2007 08:21
if not ill put my gigantic list of tridecagolisms right here (see above comment) write more comments under the influence of sllep depravation and write a terribly bad fanfic.
February 9th, 2007 08:21
tracy! beg with me! come on!
February 9th, 2007 08:22
wow these are a lot of posts 664 thats a whole lot of posts.
February 9th, 2007 08:24
i’ll be on tommorow and the next and the next and so on and so forth until you listen to my obsessive pleas. Write more midnighters!!!!!!!!!!!! the way the book ended leave so much room for another book. come on please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 9th, 2007 10:34
Believe it or not, I have a list of 7830 tridecalogisms. It took me months just to edit the MS word document to readability lol.
February 9th, 2007 12:28
Oh my gosh guys, where are you getting all these tridecalogisms? Looking for hours in the dictionary? I won’t even attempt to beat Alissa’s record. My favorite tridecalogism is ARACHNIPHOBIA(I think I spelled it correctly/13 letters), because that’s where Rex and I have/had the strongest connection. Tarantulas make my skin crawl!! Oh, and hi newcomers, love the energy.
February 9th, 2007 12:59
I got most of mine from the secret hour fansite (http://www.geocities.com/thesecrethour/bixby.html). I think they’re in the Dess section…
February 10th, 2007 07:35
yo iminlovewithjonathon!u got a problem that i like an emo kid? salamak is hot!!!!szzzz….
February 10th, 2007 07:37
ummm. i m not tracy….who is this tracy u speak of? but i have to say tracy is a koolio name wish it was mine…i wait, it is!wait a sec..i mean its not tracy!!!!i m not tracy!GHAH!!!!(run away from the computer…)
February 10th, 2007 07:41
yeah thats right ImInLoveWithJonathon! u heard correctly i dont love jonathon, cause my heart soooo belongs to rex!go rex go rex go rex!REX!!!!!!!! WOOOOOO! REX!
February 10th, 2007 07:43
ummm…ok im not in love with jonathon…take it easy yo..y? well beacuse:REX IS SOOOOO MINE!!! HA! HOW DO U LIKE THAT?!!!
February 10th, 2007 07:45
sup homies? guess wha? i just realized how much i smell, and how weird i m…and also how great my best friend EVUR tracy, is the smartest person evur..and shes nice, pretty and soooo much better than i!
February 10th, 2007 07:47
y thank u im in love with jonathon…so kind…so long for now my peeps! BYE!!!oh and scott if your reading this, plz plz plz plz PLZ write a fourth book before im in love with jonathan takes me hostage!
February 10th, 2007 07:48
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! SAVE ME!!!!AHHHH IM BEING GAGGED!!!!!AND BEING HELD HOSTAGE!!!!! AHHHHHH!!!…………………..
February 10th, 2007 08:56
well, a lot of things happened while I was gone
you guys don’t mess around
welcome Madame (?) Salamander
its good to have amphibians around to make us all feel more secure
February 10th, 2007 11:50
I know, a lot did happen when I was gone too and I was just on yesterday. Oh and Alissa, I check out that site, thanks.
February 10th, 2007 13:09
tracy if you write one more post pretending ur me ill tell everyone on here what ur midlle name is. oh i i got all of my tridecagolisms from words in my vocabulary that i actually use, the book i am reading right now, and my text books during lunch and study hall because my friends i sit near at lunch were either absent or wouldnt shut up about the kid she is in love with. so i looked for tridecogolisms. my favorite is acedemenephin. (its an asprin type thing)
February 10th, 2007 13:10
oh and that was not me up there saying i smell that was my friend who thinks that i wont figure it out and kill her on monday. IM OBSESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!! im makin up a new aol acount and i want a wickedawsome midnighters email. any suggestions?
February 10th, 2007 14:12
iminlovewithjonathon-
maybe put the word halfling in there?
or….figure out what talent you think that you would have and then put that in?
ummmm……. are you a math genius like Dess? if so then somehow put a 13 letter word in or a cool pattern, maybe something like a metal in.( if u arent that still might be cool, because you would be able to defend yourself against the computer darklings.)
i dont know if that helped at all. i hope so!
February 10th, 2007 20:05
Acedemenephin is Tylenol, actually. With all my martial arts injuries, I should know lol.
February 11th, 2007 02:46
ha thanks im asking my friends for help too. im thinking of something along the lines of halfling13 or polymath something or another. if you have any more ideas, im open to all suggestions. thanks!
February 11th, 2007 04:53
Interesting,I suppose the REAL, ImInLoveWithJonathan, using words from your own vocabulary. I found a lot of tridecagolisms while reading Twilight(Stephenie Meyer)(book I went right into in trying to heal from Blue Noon), like COMPLICATIONS. And thanks, I learned a new word for Tylenol, Acedemenephin, fool. Oh and Alissa, you do Martial Arts? Fawesome, what belt? And as for email suggestions for, ImInLoveWithJonathan!, why not Bixby(the core of everthing), or your favorite midnighter weapon (verbal or physical), like Hypochondriac(think I spelled that right) or, what’s the name of Dess’s hub cap(does any know/vol.1)?
February 11th, 2007 05:15
Oh and just as an refresher, here are the midnighters talents that we’ve come up w/:
Telekenisis(we need to find a name)
Bonemender
Empath
Soldier
Ignitmus-Toxin
Sketcher(maybe BETTER Name?, Or is it okay?)
Hypnotist(I think the name is okay)
Magnitus
Screecher
Dream Gatherer
Illusionist
The halfing
The flame dominator(no name really given,shoots fire/heats things up)
Any others? I think we should have some kind shape shifter or someone who can travel fast on the ground(crawling like slithers), who through touch can take someone with them so they don’t always have to rely on the acrobats. Or some weather controller. I don’t know, any other Talents?!
February 11th, 2007 06:02
“What do you know, Hypochondriac killed the cat” Hypochondriac was the hubcap, I’m pretty sure. I’m a Taekwon Do red belt.
Midnighter talents:
Skinwalker (shapeshifter)
Control of flame: Pyrosis (If anyone can come up with a better pyro name go ahead)
And I think Sketcher is a great name.
February 11th, 2007 06:29
yes it was. thats one of my favorite qoutes from the book. i was also thinking honorarypolymath169 (13×13) but i still need the perfect midnighter name. another skill i came up with was a person who could control ice or something like that but i cant think of a wicked fawsome name for it.
February 11th, 2007 11:10
Be prepared for a sciece lecture:
names for a talent pertaining to ice:
amorphous ice(put together)=12 letters only, but a type of ice called hyperquenched=13 letters and it is a type of amorphous ice. Amorphous ice is when you cool water to a certain degree at a certain speed.
tetragonal ice and monoclinic ice(with ice still being used) is 13 letters and also pertains to the cooling process of ice.
although we already have a flame bringer we could have another talent that pertains to electricity. maybe he could bring electricity out through his body or something, but the flame bringer has to be with him in order for it to work. (i dont know but that sounds cool to me)
ferroelictric would be a cool name for that talent.( deals with transition of temperature)
Last thing promise!! maybe there could be a talent that makes things magnetic to darklings
ferromagnetic= turns metals from the outside force,kinda, magnetic.(they could be like masters of the weapons)
ok done!
February 11th, 2007 15:44
You know Alissa, I was thinging that hypochodriac was the name of the hubcap too but I thought I was wrong because didn’t Jessica say” Hypochodriac,” to the gate; so I thought that that was a little redundant. But thanks for the clarification(13!) Alissa, and red belt? Fawesome! Oh and what should the skinwalker turn into exactly?Love Pyrosis, and thanks Alissa on sketcher.
And great talent ImInLoveWithJonathan, I was thinking of ice too.
And sorry Tally the Science genius, but I’m a little slow. Um, what do think the midnighter talent(ice) should be called?( you warned me about the SCIENCE lecture, but I guess I wasn’t ready.)Oh and love ferroelictric but you’re still frying my brain w/ the knowledge. And Ferromagnetic can add to or stand next to my talent Magnitus(Have magnetic/gravitational force that controls direction of slithers. Slithers usually follow them. They can also aide/hinder acrobats).
Cool, you guys are brilliant, we should make Scott proud! Keep the talents coming!
February 12th, 2007 03:23
ummm….ok it seems like i missed alot while i was gone…first of all id like to thank xavier for being so kind to welcome me, thanx much, second, kiersten how do u know it was me on that post, i mean really i think it was heather, shes evil ya know, third, ur gonna kill me on monday?!!! ahhhh!!!!! i is scared! save me!well tomorrow will be fun… ok then next its kiersten again!i have to say and i do so qoute”kiersten what are you on and where can i get some?!!!i have no idea what your talkin bout sometimes…HONESTLY!!!”unquote.and i think thats it for now. midnighters for evur!!!buh bye my peeps! the emo salamander!
February 12th, 2007 03:26
so wait…im a protective amphibian? wha???
February 12th, 2007 03:27
so wait…im a protective amphibian? wha??? see number 676 aka xavier for that quote…
February 12th, 2007 03:32
hey guys whaz up?just thought of a few more 13 letter words that i will post on later! and scott, if your reading this…im a cancer patient, and im gonna die if u dont write a midnighters 4, plz hurry im in stage 3 canc3er of the ummm… uh, uh…….lungs?…yeah sure lets go with that, i have cancer in the lungs, plz hurry!!!!!!!!!
February 12th, 2007 03:33
hey im in love with jonathan, i think u r lying. y? i dunno i just have this funny feeling that u dont have cancer! stop goofing around and b cereal! if we want scott to write a 4th book just ask nicely…PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 12th, 2007 04:26
tracy i am so not a cancer patient and now i will not only kill you on monday but i will tell miles u love him. (which you dont i hope) but i will make it fast because you get an A+++++++++ for starting to read midnighters. now we can gang up on heather together and make her read them. whoooooooooooo i have someone to be obbssesive with now! yeah!!!!!!!!!!
February 12th, 2007 06:42
Jessica named the gate “psychosamatic”. SHe learned it from Jonathan, I think.
Skinwalkers are a native american myth that says some sorcerers could use an animal’s skin to turn into that animal. A skinwalker as a midnighter could change shape the same way darklings can, I would think. They could take the form of any animal, maybe?
February 12th, 2007 08:47
why would it be useful to turn into an animal? im not exactly sure how tht would help against darklings unless you had stainless steel claws or teeth or somehting.
February 12th, 2007 08:55
Demensiona- yeah sorry about the science thing lol i really am not that great at science, only with certain parts.
ice talent-hyperquenched(cool ice,or refreeze water)
and yeah your right i like ur name for the magnet talent better that way its diff from the ferroelectric
ferroelectric- can control energy(transfers energy from 1 side of room to the other)
Did that help ur brain any? lol
February 12th, 2007 09:29
`thanks for the wicked fawsome name for my ice talent. loving it so much
February 12th, 2007 09:32
anyone else have some helpful ideas for my wicked fawsome midnighter email adress? i will take any ideas (unless u r tracy aka emo salamander because if you r and u write one more post pretending to be me ill tell miles you love him and you want to go out with him and ill tell chris that you hate his guts and you never want to talk to him again. yes i am a tad anoyed.) but if ur not the emo salamander, go right ahead and post away.
February 12th, 2007 10:14
Different animals have different properties, and shapeshifting would allow you to use animal forms to fly, travel quickly, hide, etc. It would be even better if skinwalkers could shapeshift in daylight (which I think they probably could).
Hmm… midnighter e-mail… what’s your fave talent?
February 12th, 2007 12:01
Really Alissa? Jessica said”Pyschosomatic?”, gee I need to read the secret hour over again like I do for so many others of Scott’s books. So the skinwalker would turn into a darkling( Like into a Tarantula or something?), the talent’s totally fawesome, and very useful(good points Alissa).
And thankyou Tally, you totally helped my brain.Don’t apologize, I praise the knowledge. So Hyperquenched, fool, I love the thirteen letter talent threat. And love ferroelectric’s talent. So the magnetic talent is called MAGNITUS, so its settled then, thanks.
And ImInLoveWithJonathan!, since you love JONATHAN, why not call you midnighter email after that bracelet he gave Jessica. I know what its called but does anyone know how to correctly spell it? Or you can name the email after the Tridecagolism JONATHAN gave Jessica when they met” Pyschosomatic.”
February 13th, 2007 03:10
wow demensiona how wierd i was just thinking of acariciandote during spanish class while toying with my charm bracelet (which i bought three more charms for so i have 13) my top ones so far are midnighter13 polymath169 or hm mabey i could do something with acariciandote. alothough if anyone asks what my email means it could get tricky having to explain the whole midnighters sieries to them (a simple its from a book i read wouldnt sufice for me. midnighters deserves at least a half hour summary. what with my summarie it might take days. i like to go in to much detail…. if you havent noticed.) oh and the salamander iis invicible but may not pretend to be me again with my little threat about miles. muahahaha im very persuasive.
February 13th, 2007 03:11
wow i really cant spell
February 13th, 2007 11:17
am i the only guy on this post?
how depressing
not that you girls aren’t categorically resplendently scintillating
(like that one, did you?)
February 13th, 2007 12:06
ImInLoveWithJonathan!, did you spell the bracelet wrong? Oh and I thought it might be a little complicated too(And hard to say, I’m in Spanish 5-6 and I still can’t say it right, gee). Oh and Xavier, you are? Huh, maybe just the only guy currently on. Don’t be depressed, that’s fawesome. And love Categorically Resplendently Scintillating. I should come up with one of those.
February 13th, 2007 12:50
Astonishingly misunderstood compatibility – my personal favorite.
February 13th, 2007 13:05
“Astonishingly misunderstood compatibility.”
Yes, that’s fexcellent.
Sorry I haven’t posted on this thread for about four zillion comments, but you all seem to be getting along pretty well without me. Yes, there is an issue with Midnighters, which is that I don’t own all the rights. A company called Alloy (Gossip Girl, The Clique, etc.) has half of the “franchise,” which makes me less inclined to continue the series.
But perhaps one day!
See you guys around, and thanks for keeping this thread stirring. I read ALL comments, even though I mostly lurk.
Ciao for now.
February 14th, 2007 01:10
Screw Alloy!
You’re your own man!
Write another Midnighters!
( and if you can’t publish it, you could at least post the good parts
)
February 14th, 2007 08:41
grrrrr! alloy if you are keeping me from more midnighters I DONT LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alloy needs some talking to. *evil laugh* muahahahaha! oh and i finalt decided on my new s/n after much deliberation me have… DESSIMETRICS13!!!!!!!!!! yeah!!!!!! i decided against acariciandote (which i probobly spelled wrong. i cant spell probably either never could. probibly never will. how do you spell that word whos spelling eludes me so?!?!?!) now every time i tell someone my s/n i will have to tell them about the midnighters and then they will become intrigued and read it!!!!! yes my brilliant plan is working!!!!!!! lol
February 14th, 2007 08:42
oh and we are so not getting along by our selves we need more scott! chant with me people! scott! scott! scott! lol. oh and my friends yelled at m yesterday for saying bubbly, fawsome, and brain missing too much. im still waiting for that intervention.
February 14th, 2007 08:45
oooooooooooohhhhh fexecelent! my friends will love this one! muahahaha! a new westerfeldian(yes! 13 going in my book right now) word to bother people with by saying it WAY too much without even realizing it. i didnt even know i was talking like a bubblehead until it was pointed out to me. oops
I FINISHED SPECIALS @& MINUNTES AGO!!!!!!!! SO GOOD!!!!!!! ahhhhh the westerfeldian obsession continues!
February 14th, 2007 08:48
noooooo i meant to say 27 not @&. oops i was holding shift the whole time. and my bio teacher loves ur fawsome stuff in my cat blog witch i showed to him after class when we were learning about vectors and discusing how we’re all gonna die. (well it wasnt that morbid it was more like discussing bird flu and such and we got on the topic of the impending demise of us. dont u love my wonderful vocabulary i cant spell?)
February 14th, 2007 08:49
darn it i spelled which wrong again!
February 14th, 2007 09:03
Unconcernedly Overestimated Worthlessness (yes, I’m bored)
February 14th, 2007 09:09
Toxicological Transmutative Zombification!
February 14th, 2007 09:09
lol, combination midnighters and peeps
February 14th, 2007 13:30
Oh Scott, when’s one day?!Can you at least give us something to think about, Scott(some small hint or spoiler)? And yes on the bracelet ImInLoveWithJonathan! And Fool on the midnighter and Peeps combo Alissa( I still have to come up w/ one).
February 15th, 2007 03:24
ok i have a snow day today and so im commenting! fun! i finished specials yesterday and now im reading the midnighters…again… for the third time. i love those books. i need to buy peeps!!!!!!! but i cant cause i kinda dont have a car/lisence/money. that could pose a problem. o well back to midnighters.
February 15th, 2007 07:07
Let me guess, northeast U.S.?
February 16th, 2007 05:26
well iminlovewithjonathan after reading ur first post i have one thing to say… ur crazy!
February 16th, 2007 10:22
yes i am. what which post? the one where im high off of sleep depravation or the one i just wrote. well it doesnt really matter because all of them make me sound crazy. (because i kind of am) and yeah alissa im from the notheast. Philly to be exact
February 16th, 2007 10:24
if you want crazy, read comment 621 and all the ones below it i wrote. talk about crazy. thats what happens when you only sleep for 3 hours.
February 16th, 2007 11:18
LALALALALALA!!!! NOT LOOKIN’!!!! NOT FINISHED READING IT YET!!!!! Yes, I’m slow…
February 16th, 2007 11:52
Cool, ImInLoveWithJonathan. I’m in southwest Canada, we haven’t had snow since before Christmas.
February 16th, 2007 12:10
Wow ImInLoveWithJonathan!, you’re from Philly and Alissa, you’re from Canada, that’s fawesome!( I’m from Southern California). This makes me wonder, is there any midnighters outside of the United states? Or was it never said in the books?
February 16th, 2007 12:52
Ok, you’re officially the luckiest location-wise. There has to be midnighters out of U.S. There’s places with 12 in the location outside the U.S., isn’t there? And it was mentioned that midnight spread everywhere, which I would assume to mean the entire planet. Anyone else?
February 16th, 2007 23:43
I’m a midnighter i go out with my mates with pintly metal stuff and beat the tar out of darklings only problem is im a mind caster *yey that wasn’t true i dreamed it*
February 17th, 2007 08:08
im a polymath!
February 17th, 2007 09:07
Well actually, it’s pretty cold right now in Cali but it’s now where near a snow day. Yeah Alissa, there is places w/ 12 outside of the U.S., like M O S C O W, R U S S I A. And I would assume too, that the spread would extend all over the planet, that’s fool. Wow, midnighters is really open ended. Is that one of the reasons why it would be difficult to finish off the series, because the series would never end? That’s okay, because I never want midnighters to end!!
February 17th, 2007 10:26
I want in to snow here soooooo bad. I live in Florida and it never snows.
very sad making in my opinion.)
Sorry that was kinda off topic.
February 17th, 2007 11:03
After this winter I never want to see snow again lol. I had to dig my motorbike out from under two and a half feet of it!
February 18th, 2007 03:25
that stinks. we got barely any snow this winter. at the max, we got about 3 inches. total. stupid global warming screwing up my winter. (i love cold) yeah but i feel bad for you guys up in ny. i mean 11 feet?!?!?! (give or take last time i heard it was around 11 feet) that would stink. now you guys are going to have no summer with all the snow days you’re having. Poor you.
February 18th, 2007 08:26
We had 1 day of light snow i hate global warming the most exciting thing that happene was that i slipped on ice and hurt my arm
February 18th, 2007 08:43
hey me too! i was walking home from the bus stop after school and i fell flat on my face. my friend started laughing at me and then she fell. i was like now whos laughing?
February 18th, 2007 10:03
GUYS!
I am a genious!
(okay maybe not a genious, but i had an epiphany)
remember how we were thinking of new midnighter talents? (for those who have no clue what i am talking about, please see post number 637 and on)
okay, so now i pose aquestion:
what if set of twins were born, and one of them was born exactly at the stroke of midnight
what would become of the other?
I think that the midnighter twin would automatically have the talent of bringing people into the secret hour by touch
I mean it’s only logical, right?
Twins have that freaky telepathy thing going on, anyway
Doesn’t that seem to correlate with having the talent to bring people into the secret hour?
This midnighter would be called a translator, or something to that extent
I don’t know
I’m not good with the names
Good idea?
Someone name it for me
(Isn’t that awesome!I’m smiling with pride)
February 18th, 2007 10:14
So cool! I had a set of twins in the fanfic I was writing, but that theory just assumed that the non-midnighter twin got their powers from the other – they were acrobats. But yeah, your theory makes sense too… I’ll think about it for a while and see if I can come up with any name ideas.
February 18th, 2007 11:50
That’s one the most fawesome ideas I’ve heard yet!(never even thought about it). I love the whole idea of bringing outsiders into the secret hour, this talent can cause so many complications, LOVE IT! I’m not really sure of what would become of the other twin, but I would love to find out!Maybe the other twin can hear or see the blue time in their mind but they might not be physically able to go into it. Maybe they feel the other twin’s pain or have constant nightmares of darklings. Or maybe the other twins completley noramal. Um as for names, maybe something like:
tangible-vestibulius
transmigratorius
ephermeral-evanescent
Dualitile-conversionist
February 19th, 2007 11:20
yeah that is a really fawesome idea about the twins.
i like transmigratorius Demensiona
February 19th, 2007 11:41
Possible names for twin talent:
Guide (guides stiffs into midnight)
Guardian (guards the transition point to midnight)
February 20th, 2007 01:37
Hey, thanks guys!
I’m with Tally, I really like the transmigratorius
And I really like Alissa’s Guide/Guardian ones
I really don’t know what I ought to do with this, though
Maybe I should write a fanfic
Thanks, Guys!
February 20th, 2007 07:33
You guys like transmigratorius? Cool! Yeah and I love Alissa’s Guide/Guardian too. I know what Scott should do w/ all these midnighter talents, he should put them all together in a book!(ha,ha, I’m just kidding/well not really). Yeah you should really create a fanfic Xavier, that would be fawesome. And I would love to see your fanfic too Alissa!
February 20th, 2007 10:43
Yeah, Alissa
I’ve heard you tell about your fanfic
It sounds awesome!
You must tell us when you publish it and where
Do have have any others floating around in cyberspace?
I’d love to read them!
February 20th, 2007 10:58
You’re right, Demensiona
Scott really ought to make an encyclopedia to the secret hour
complete with lots of talents and darkling sketches, SWEET!
That would be so awesome!
February 20th, 2007 18:45
An encyclopedia to the secret hour WOULD be totally fawesome!
February 22nd, 2007 07:50
that would be fexcelent but not as great as ANOTHER MIDNIGHTERS BOOK!!!!!!!!!!! HINT, HINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. why doesnt scott ever post anything on here anymore? it makes me sad
February 22nd, 2007 07:51
lent makes me sad too. stupid no meat on fridays and ash wednesday and such. I WANT MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 23rd, 2007 07:27
im in love with jonathan…take a chillaxin’ pill yo. midnighters rules! go dess! and, scott, plzzzzzzzzzz write a fourth book. PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanx 4 ya time.
February 23rd, 2007 07:28
i agree, midnighters is the bestest of the most superest books evur!
February 24th, 2007 06:53
srry. not being able to EAT MEAT WHEN I WANT makes me very easily annoyed. and makes me over react. stupid lent I WANT MEATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
February 24th, 2007 23:30
I think harry potter books are the bet books bu midnighters sill rocks just not as much *Screams as a mob of midnighters with flames start to chase me*
February 24th, 2007 23:30
sorry for the typo i ment midnighter fans with flames
February 28th, 2007 14:44
(I don’t know Midnightmagic, Harry Potter’s just a little too fantastical for me.)
Some more Midnighter Talents:
(1).Capritempra- pecularist:This midnighter talent enables them to change the colors of the secret hour accoording to their mood(S). Maybe this midnighter could kind of act as a sort of mindcaster; sensing other’s moods, and calming other’s through touch.(Use during both daytime and the secret hour).(These midnighters are born between Dec.22-Jan.19).
(2.)Trepid-stagnantmus: When they’re in a crisis during the secret hour, they can literally freeze themselves in place(turns themselves into steel), and they would be safe because nothing can hurt them when they’re in this state. They can put others in this state too, through touch(not limited to one person on each hand/ they can create a link.)(only use during the secret hour).
(3). Subsenilist: They can can either age someone/themselves or something, or make it younger/newer. Can repair damaged metals and can make tridecologims reusable again. They can also age someone if it comes to some sort of cufew encounter.(can use during the secret hour and daytime).
(Hey does anyone know how I can make the midnighter talent names a little simplier?(Names are a little extensive because they have literal meanings). And add on any other talents that you guys come up with!)
February 28th, 2007 18:33
The first one could be Moodstone, maybe, to simplify it?
March 2nd, 2007 06:33
and time freezing at midnight and flying and mindcasting and dalklings isn’t *wat ws that samrt word you used* oh yeah fantastical
March 2nd, 2007 06:36
the second one could be a metalbender no thats stupid fine the 3rd one could be a timespanner or timeturner *just a sujestion*
March 2nd, 2007 06:40
For the first one thier eyes could change colour with their mood and they could be called chamilimood it has chamilion sort of it you know…..
March 2nd, 2007 07:01
okay, i just finished! I thought she was like dead! it totally freaked me out, but even though she is still alive its still like insanely sad. And the wierd thing is… I didn’t start crying until Dess said the thing about how all their “coupleness” and egos clashed leaving her always a 5th wheal
March 2nd, 2007 08:09
i kno since dess is one of my favorite midnighters (next to jonathan of course) i h=was like awwwwwwwwwwwww poor dess.
March 2nd, 2007 09:12
I totally know what you mean!!! I was SOOO sad for her. Not that i dont totally thinks the whole rex and melissa thing is cute, but stil!! I love dess, I relayed on her for my daily dose of sarcasm, and they totally left her out of like EVERYTHING!!!! Its like, things happen to Jessica, and she tells Jonathon, then they decide to tell rex since he’s the seer and all, and melissa is always with rex, and even if she wasnt shed still know because… well shes melissa, and then theres dess… noone like ever bothers to tell her anything and its SOO sad!
March 2nd, 2007 18:31
Wow, thanks you guys on the names, um for the first midnighter talent, maybe I can somehow combine both sugestions? I’ll think on it, and cool on the other names. And well MidnightMagic, believe it or not but I think the whole mindcasting and time freezing at midnight thing is pretty realistic. I mean in Midnighters, there’s references that you can grasp(oklahoma/school life).Plus its kinda hard for me to read books w/ narrators under 15(I know Harry gets older), but I don’t know why that bothers me/maybe it’s the whole been there, done that thing.
Oh, and I know Savannah, I thought Jessica died too but its kinda reassuring to know that she’s in a DIMENSION(says hope to me), but yeah I was totally depressed after that.(Why could’nt Jonathan be stuck w/ Jessica! Jonathan and Jessica’s parents really got my tears going). And I think Dess’s last words were brillant/ saved me from falling into deep depression(That and RadioHead’s,”Everything in its right place”).
Desdemona is independent and probably, in the long run, the best off. Dess was the glue that held the midnighters together. It almost felt as if Midnighters was DESS’s story, and that’s just totally fawesome.
March 3rd, 2007 07:49
Wow. Midnighters r gr8. but u rounded it off reely nicely, DONT DO A SEQUEL WHATEVER U DO SCOTT. (hahaha only joking reverse psychology always works.) The ending was kind of sad, what would b cool is the next generation of midnighters, perhaps some of the original one’s kids freeing Jess, who goes back 2 her parents and Beth, who r 30 years older than her, cue big emotional moment. Also another cool talent would be telekinesis, darn only 11 letters. Also, a slightly weaker mindcaster who can ’see peoples auras’
Gr8 book, keep it up Scott. (AND WRITE ANOTHER
March 3rd, 2007 08:32
Another cool midnighter talent
Piper (but maybe call it something else) someone who plays music, that is inimical (lov that word) to the darklings, because it has a tonal interval of 13 or something. he or she could play the flute, because it is metal.(i play the flute!) cool like the pied piper of hamelin. maybe he could make slithers jump into rivers. maybe he should be the Pi Piper.
not really midnighters, but i realy liked unsporstmanlike conduct. at first, i wasnt sure who were the aliens. By the way, even though i’m english, basebal is way better than cricket. (its soooooo boring, and england never wins.) Also, what happens if ur a midnighter standing on the north pole? 1/2 year bluetime or what.
March 3rd, 2007 13:54
Demensiona, I totally agree!! But that thing Dess said about how he would be really really old by the time she was 19, yeah that was kinda gross… anyways, I really do think that dess kind of held them all together, even if they did split up in the end (totally unfool) its obvious that, in “The Secret Hour” atleast, Jonathon would be totally his own little island if dess didnt kinda join-ify the him with rex and melissa. It does seem to revolve around dess a bit, but I have no problem with that since I totally love Dess. By the way, I totally love your amazing use of “fawsome”! Zahler kicks butt!!!
March 3rd, 2007 14:34
Yeah nick, I hope your reverse psychology works, not even solely on the sequel( Hey what happened to that TALKED about midnighter show/ I don’t want to be in college by the time it comes on). Oh and I would HOPE that Jessica’s parents(30 years not knowing!) and Beth WOULDN”T be thirty years older than her/poor Jonathan. I’m telling you I almost admitted myself into a psychtriatic ward after Blue noon(ha ha,just kidding!). I don’t know, Scott would probably write something like that(he,he). Oh and I like the PIPER nick, I created a midnighter talent kinda similar to that called SCREECHER(pitch of their verbal scream is AS sharp as STAINLESS STEEL, damages darkling/slither’s hearing. They’re also very muslical, play/compose mathmatical music like Bach, drives darklings insane). Cool.
And Savannah, when Dess talked about the whole AGE thing, I wasn’t even sane enough to think it was gross/ I was too busy fighting w/ the knot in my stomach. Seriously, I almost had an olser at that JESSICA/LIGHTENING part because I didn’t know what happened, when she said “oh no,” I said “OH NO!”
And I think that the midnighters are like magnets, that can’t go too far from eachother for too long. Yeah and I LOVE DESS too/ she’s hilarious. She seemed like the mother of the pack, even though she was practically the youngest one! And oh yeah, FAWESOME is my FAVORITE word. Zahler’s so fool.(He reminded me of a little of Dess, just in the comical and sort of isolated sense,).
March 4th, 2007 02:54
another cool talent:
someone who can speak a gazillion languages, including Mongolian, and ancient Icelandic, and knows all the tridecalogism. Just an idea. Someone, think of a cool name for it.
March 4th, 2007 06:43
Demensiona, I totally freaked out when I read the part at the end of the lightning chapter that said “And then everything was gone.” I totally flipped. And I had absolutly no one to talk to about it and it was killing me!!!! And I get what your saying about the whole isolation thing. It made me totally sad since I adore Zahler! And about the whole TV show thing, I was thinking about that recently myself, I wanna know where thats going, I’ll DIE if It comes on and I dont know it!!
And for all the people dealing with the tallent things, what about the whole metalurge thing? That talent was very briefly mentioned in one of the books but it never really explained what it was. Ive been trying to come up with a talent to fit it, but Im no good and making up talents.
March 4th, 2007 08:27
hmmmmm
maybe a mettalurge has something to do with… METAL!!!! maybe, he or she has an affinity with metal, which means a metallurge can forge really cool weapons, like Dess does. but in the book, it says something about feeling stuff inside the earth.
Here’s another cool talent:
A helion
someone who can control, make and bend light, which darklings hate, like at the climax of book one with the flashlight.
March 4th, 2007 08:34
well duh. i knew it had to do with metal, and i knew the thing about feeling things inside the earth but yeah, thanksies
March 4th, 2007 12:03
Nick, the Language midnighter talent could be called divergent- communicator.
Yeah and I know Savannah, the worst part was being unable to talk to anyone about it because no one that I knew, at the time, had finished reading midnighters, that was so not fool. And again, I love Zahler(he’s sooo fawesome)! And yeah, that show better hurry along because I’m DONE w/ this procrastination. Come on, at this rate they could’ve already made a movie. Why are they making such slow progress w/ Midnighters, I mean you should see Uglies(have a new book and a movie next year), and uglies came out AFTER midnighters. So now why doesn’t that make sense? Oh and w/ the whole metallurge thing, um sense it was mentioned in “Blue Noooo!”(heh heh), I think that Scott probably already has an idea for the talent but I don’t know. It depends what other aide that the midnighters need/ like I said I had a talent that renewed metals, maybe one talent could create more entricate,complicated designs(weapons) in medals in the speed of light. Maybe they could be called the crafters or something.
Oh and helium is cool. But the flame-bringer talent took over alot of possible talents(Flame-bringer has the fire,electricity, and lightning, that’s why it gets kind of difficult for me to think up different talents, but I think helium definetly works).
March 4th, 2007 13:08
Wait Demensiona, hold it right there. There’s gonna be a movie for Uglies!!! Since when????? I’ve been dying for that to come up forEVER and now I found out that its already happening?!?!?!?! Wow Im excited now. But yeah, if this whole “uglies movie” thing is really happening then I totally get what your saying. From what I remember reading midnighters was Scott’s first teen novel, so its totally bogus that the uglies movie would come around before the midnighters TV show! Maybe it didnt work out, unless you have more amazing secret knowlegde that says they’re just taking forever with it. Oh, and Im pretty sure Extras is coming out in October this year isn’t it? Im gonna cry if it doesnt come out untill next year!
March 5th, 2007 00:05
Uglies Movie?
i havent heard anything about that either. but then i havent read the book either .(but i will)
and its a heliON not heliUM.
March 5th, 2007 00:31
3 days ago or something it was world book day. maybe, scott, you should do a short midnighters parallel for the next world book day.
March 5th, 2007 03:44
I looked the Uglies Movie up and its really happening!!! YAY!!! Savannah is happy!
March 5th, 2007 05:46
Ya, u know what, i was so peeved. It really is amazing how u can get rapped up in the lives of fictional characters. I walked around like a zombie for a week before getting used to the fact that Jessica was gone. Then i had to read specials.
Yup, thanks a lot for the therapy scott.
But what a wierd way to end things!
So many q’s unanswered! Jonathan and jessica! Dess? Don’t even get me started on rex and melissa.
Oh and i agree with dess. Things are bound to get icky with Jess and John. The awkwardness of it! So many things…Jessica…unleft to do…one hour…
Scott, i really think that the ending was confusing! I mean, Jonothan would obviously have to get married…have kids…i mean he can’t keep dating a sixteen year old. He’d practically be molesting her…oh wait…sorry about the last statement.
And rex and melissa? What rrreaally went on between those two? And if u ask me, Rex should have gone with the rest of the midnighters.
Plus, what IS going to happen now every halloween in bixby? I have to go….i will be back sometime when i don’t need to read the 739 spoilers of midnighters and 556 spoilers of Specials
March 6th, 2007 03:11
Yep the Uglies movies is totally coming out, I’m just so surprised that so many of you(even on the specials spoiler zone), haven’t heard about it yet(Its been in the works for a while now), and its coming out next year. And yeah Savannah, Extras comes out in October(happy birthday to me!)! Oh and sorry about heliON Nick, I’m a little blind.
And yeah Yumi Kimimi, your last state is correct, don’t mean to get all Law And Order SVU on you but that WOULD be statutory rape,but no authority figure would ever really know that. But then again, I highly doubt that Scott would leave Jessica in there that long, woulde he? And Rex, I think/know, will be okay, for some reason I kind of liked that he stayed(don’t worry, I love Rex). Oh and I have no clue about what’s going to happen every Halloween in Bixby for now on, but I would be intrigued to find out!
March 6th, 2007 11:13
AHH!! Im so happy!!! I just looked it up! YAY!!! But I heard somewhere that they looking into getting Emma Roberts as Tally? ICKY!! Totally NOTfool!! I just think she’s WAY too peppy and preppy and all the other insults starting with p!! She doesnt really seem to fit into the plot AT ALL to me. *sigh* Oh well, maybe its too much to ask for, a perfect actress to play Tally, but it cant be that hard. They just need a really normal girl, not related to Julia Roberts or any of the various fabulous stars!
March 6th, 2007 15:17
Savannah, What the f***? Is that that true? Come on! Oh man, I knew it was just too good to be true, when I said I wanted an upcoming actress,I was reffering to Emily Browning or somone completly new!!
Man, not the Hilary Duff syndrome! Plus, she doesn’t even LOOK old enough to play Tally. Are you telling me that EMMA ROBERTS is going to be cutting herself w/ a knife to make herself feel better, and then go right back to Nickelodeon and sing a song?, I think not!!
Scott do something!Your books, if this is true, are on the line here, to the public who haven’t read them yet ! Ugh, this is SO NOT FAWESOME!Man if they’re going to do something like this w/ uglies, I’d hate to see what they’ll do w/ the midighter show. Oh gee!
March 7th, 2007 03:32
Hey Scott,
Wow, I love ur work… Never even knew u existed until late last year when my mother remarried and I got 7 more step-siblings in my life! The youngest girl[17] in the new family kept talking to me about this book series called Peeps, and I was reluctant in reading an YA novel ~ BTW I’m 29[male]
Anyway, after awhile I decided to give the series a go cause it sounded neat, and I was tired of reading adult fantasy/sci-fi for a bit. Again WoW, I read Peeps Trilogy in like 4 days…that was an awsome series so I decided to look u up and discovered the Midnighters Trilogy.
Midnighters sounded just as an exciting plot to me as Peeps, so natually I bought all 3 books and read them all in 2 days ~ Amazing is all I can say, had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Even though I found the ending extremely sad[I did cry] I was slightly disappointed with Jonathan, I kept hoping from chapter to chapter that he’d fight instead of just fly Jess around. I kept hoping that he’d have some type of attack where he’d attache some kind of metal plates to his shoes, and he could then bounce around off the Darklings.[smile]
I wanted more, still want more! I really hope you’ll find it in ur heart to someday write more for all ur adoring fans!
I’ve also taken an interest in Justine’s Magic or Madness Trilogy, and plan to buy all 3 in what ~ about 16 days when book 3 hits the shelves. Sounds like an excellent story as well!
~Looking forward to Extra as well….thx so much for more Peeps, I can’t wait!
March 7th, 2007 07:02
erm peeps trilogy? peeps and the last days are the only ones that i know of. are you sure its not the uglies trilogy that ur thinking of?
March 7th, 2007 07:04
peeps is about vampires
March 7th, 2007 07:07
and i second that about wanting more midnighters. (although ive been bugging him for like EVER and alas he cant because STUPID ALLOY owns part of the rights to the story.) *tear* :’(
March 7th, 2007 07:56
My bad…Uglies I meant! Was just reading stuff on Peeps when I posted..LOL
March 7th, 2007 08:15
EMMA ROBERTS? As Tally? r they even thinking? they cant be, because that would be totally horrible! Do they realize what type of role this is, and how it should be played in order to be good? Ugggghhhh! This should be interesting!
March 7th, 2007 08:16
sorry i know that this is the midnighters spoilers zone not the specials, but i couldnt hold back.
March 7th, 2007 08:19
Was just thinking, maybe all us Midnighters could start a:
“Buy the complete Midnighters rights from ALLOY for Scott fund”
Then Scott could write more books for us! Its a thought if not concevied yet!
The way Midnighters was left open, another neat idea would be to continue making books into one huge epic saga, that would span the lifetimes of Jessica, Dess, Melissa, Dex & Jonathan. Not only to try and save Jessica from being trapped in the Blue Moon, but also their adventures of traveling around the world and teaching new Midnighters their roles, meeting a host of new Darklings! Maybe even figure a way to allow non-midnighters a means to enter on occassion, like they did with Beth!
Its a thought…..these 3 books laid the groundwork for anything to spawn from!
Scott….please, we all love u…..find a way to write more!
March 7th, 2007 14:48
Yeah, thats right, Demensiona, EMMA ROBERTS!!! YUCKK!!!!
March 8th, 2007 07:00
hey everybody
i just found a really cool book recommendation website: http://www.librarything.com ,enjoy.
all of scotts works are on there. my username is optinik
March 8th, 2007 08:06
also i found something that looks like a TRAILER FOR MIDNIGHTERS TV SHOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUg0wnCH92M&mode=related&search=
i assume eft is a tv channel
March 9th, 2007 14:41
Thanks for agreeing w/ me Savannah, Yuck is right. This Hilary Duff syndrome is taking down the industry. They might as well cast the girl on the cover of Uglies, because acting ability is obviously not a factor.
Oh and cool nick, I’ll definetly check out that book reccomendation site. And as for the midnighter show, I couldn’t find that channel(and I have all of the channels), maybe its one of those networks like the CW was that’s in the making?Hmp, I’m stumped, I wish they could of at least given an air date or a clipping.
March 9th, 2007 15:51
ok, I just spend the last half an hour scanning through the previous posts, so here finally is my post.
First of all, I have to ask Scott a question. Is it ok with you if I write a sequel to your third midnighters book? And when I am done would you like a copy? Just wondering.
Next, there was was a post somewhere up there that listed a few new powers. Here are my two self created powers:
Time Bender: Can go forward or backwards in time, and they can freeze time. (Of course, if they haven’t met a previous time bender they can only do certain forms of this)
Ok, the next one I haven’t really come up with a name for yet, but it would be kind of like a natural half ling except for one thing: They could control which form they are in, human, darkling, or slither, and to mindcasters they taste normal. They are actually on the Darklings side.
(Before I end this post, I have to explain my name. If you counted the letters in it, it is a thirty-nine letter phrase. It is the name of my stainless steel charm braclet that has thirteen charms. It is totally darkling proof.)
Well, that’s my long post. So, bye.
March 9th, 2007 19:25
Welcome, mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, fawesome name! Oh I love Time Bender,you’re talking about the past and future right? So cool, that would enable them to view/correct things in the past and prepare for the future(precautions), love it!
Oh and I LOVE the next midnighter talent’s concept! Maybe the talent could be called:
-Maleficent Concealer(one that conceals evil)
-Nefarious Trickster(sinful deciever)
-Stainless Dissimulator(guiltless pretender)
How totally Fawesome!
March 10th, 2007 04:55
Here’s Scott’s profile on librarything
http://www.librarything.com/author/westerfeldscott
maleficient concealer sounds good, but i think the time bender should only be able to send inanimate objects through time.
March 10th, 2007 07:08
Ok, so maybe this doesn’t fit this comments thread, but I don’t think there’s a Risen Empire thread, so what ever. I’m on page 35 of The Risen Empire, and currently trying to figure out if there’s a “good guy” side. The whole Error of blood and Risen thing doesn’t sound very good guy, but then neither does kidnapping people’s empresses… by the way, love the empress being called the Reason, really cool considering that in Justine’s books the main character’s name is Reason. Kind of fits.
March 10th, 2007 07:34
yeah risen empire is really cool, and there should be a thread for it too. yes, reason is cool. The main good guys are the crew of the lynx (like the deodorant) and Nara Oxham. its a great book, but some of the physics is a bit confusing (what IS reaction mass?)
March 10th, 2007 09:42
Hey nick, What do you mean when you say that the time bender should only be able to send inanimate objects through time?May you elaborate?
Oh and the Risen empire was good? I was debating whether or not I would read that , now I know I will. But I just hope that its not to confusing like EVOLUTION’S DARLING.
You’re killing my brain Scott, I want to enjoy the novel but I don’t understand a thing; not even the words. The only thing I know is the (main?) character’s name, Rathere. Did anyone finish this book yet, because I would love a sypnopsis.
March 10th, 2007 13:42
Thanks for the name ideas Demensiona. I haven’t decided on which one I want to use yet, but I’m planning on using one of them.
Again, thanks a lot.
Also, nick, I like the idea that the time bender can only send objects, because I really don’t exactly want all of the midnighters going back in time and changing everything, which is why for now, in what I’m writing my time bender can only take people back in time, not forward. (She doesn’t know how to control her powers yet. I don’t know if she ever will.) What she can do though, is go back to the beginning of the midnight hour. (Jessica can stay in exsistence longer.)
Thanks again for all of your name ideas, and ideas for abilities for my created midnighter abilities.
March 11th, 2007 00:25
Yeah, but sending inanimate objects through time can still cause paradoxes. if you sent a 20 ton weight that was on a building back in time to when the building didnt exist, you could kill someone, like your grandmother. (I dont know why,but all these time paradoxes involve killing your grandmother, scientists must hate their grannies)
Also, what would be really cool is doing the same thing in reverse, ie pulling something that you need forward, or backward through time.
March 11th, 2007 03:05
warning: Long Post!!
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ok, i know people have gone off to tangents, talking about the other books, (books i love nonetheless) but i will stick to the topic! Midnighter series!!! Blue Noon!
where to begin…
I read all three books in 3 days. that says a lot! i dont read books regurarly but i was unable to put down the midnighter series until the very last word. i just had to know what came next! i was mesmerized!
i thought the second book worked a lot on clarifying things, and relationships. It was the Best sequel that could ever follow. The third book was, simply put: AWESOME! … but the ending made me cry for days. i thought of it as unfair. maybe because in my view Jess’s nightmare or worst fear was leaving daylight! after all, she was saddened by Jonathan’s thoughts of blue time lasting forever. she was obviously afraid of the idea. And now, she had to live in her nightmare. without beth, without her parents nor constanza, and of course without a gravity stricken jonathan! only one hour a day, just like the darklings! 25 ‘normal’ days to make 1 day in her life. The twists and turns were fabulous! but i really thought that the end rushed things off a bit.
even though it was unexpected. I want to see Jess being rescued!! it’s depressing! And maybe a reunion of Rex and Melissa! my fav. couple! after 8 years of sharing, they parted…
-_- I felt INCOMPLETE as a reader. the issues didnt resolve fully. even though that is the charm of it… things stay hidden, and sad.
they all (the team) shared so much for people who have one thing in common, midnight. And it was just very maddening to see such ‘friendships’ end and each following their own path.
im hoping for another book!
pleaaaasseeeee! pretty pleasee!!!!!
Everyone who read the trilogy will by the fourth book!! no doubt!!
>>Maybe you can write another trilogy of midnighters 2! same characters included of course adding just a few more! Dess needs to leave her fifth wheel fear and find someone too! maybe it will spice things up! Dess was expressively underdeveloped as a character because she kept things to herself, even though she settled with the idea of being with people of her kind, math geniuses. And she has one of the most amazing talents. She kept the team safe with all her tridecalogisms and ‘artillery’ until the mighty flame-bringer arrived
it’s just a suggestion, but another book is definitely needed!! The ending of Blue Noon is pretty OPEN! You can add tons of stuff to it.
Scott: I wish you SUCCESS in everything you do! Keep doing what you do best -> we need writers like you in today’s world!!
_ Keep Surprising us!
bye for now,
Anthi
March 11th, 2007 04:31
Ok, so I’m not really sure how the Time Bending thing would work out. It could kill people. At least sending a 20 ton weight could cause some damage. I’m going to have to think about that one a little bit more.
Also, does anyone have any good ideas for the fourth book, because as I said in a previous post, I’m kind of writing my version of the fourth book, and I would like some ideas from other midnighter fans. So, please, post any of your ideas.
March 11th, 2007 07:08
1st of all, yes, we need a sequel or parallel series. Dess could find another polymath,(coz the 3rd book ended with her thinking about that stuff). Or he could be a timebender.
Ok, heres a cool thing about a timebender i just thought up. Ok, the timebender is standing on an old battleground (civil war or later) and darklings are attacking. He/she ‘looks’ back in time, while conveniently slowing the darklings, and ‘pulls’ several bullets forward thru time. They continue on their trajectory, and smash in2 the darklings. cool.
Yay, i’m post number 800
March 11th, 2007 07:58
Nick, that’s such a cool idea. I love it!
I’m just going to have to decide on which old battle ground.
Also, Dess does need to meet another polymath, and she will. At least in my book. I’m not completely sure on how they’re going to get along yet, but I can’t wait until I get to write when they meet.
March 11th, 2007 09:05
Okay, Dess and new polymath (lets shorten that to NP) might meet at a maths convention. Dess is doing some vaguely-midnight-related project, but NP is showing off some mindbending piece of math ie solving one of those really old problems like fermats last theorum or something (whatever) NP and Dess start talking, Dess realises FERMATTHEORUM has 13 letters, she says a few tridecalogisms, and NP’s like, whoa, i thought i was the only one who ever used them.
Then Dess would tell him about darklings midnight bixby 13 etc, and NP would be like, really me too, when i used 2 live in (wherever) when i was 3 the world used 2 go blu at night, but peepl thought i was crazy, so i moved, and it stopped. And then Dess takes NP to meet rex, mellissa, jonathan and jessica.
March 11th, 2007 09:28
ummm, scott, just one question. Anathea, the seer who was made into a halfling, is her name intentional, because it basically means godless. it comes from ancient greek, aneu theoi,(like atheist). Is this intentional or what?
by the way no i’m not greek, but i have to study it at school.
March 11th, 2007 13:39
Wow, a lot of info floating around,hmm lets start w/ the time bender.
Well first of all, ALL of the talents can end up killing someone so that shouldn’t be a factor. I love the whole battle ground thing. This midnighter would probably act as a seer at times/ probably aced history. So I’m inferring that this midnighter can retrieve needed objects from the past? And maybe they can PEER into the future? Well I don’t know.
And as for the whole NEXT book thing, I think the next book ,like you guys said, should start w/ Dess and the NP, and eventually branch off. But Dess would be older right(18ish-21 to be realistic)? And I would think that Dess wouldn’t have had too much contact w/ Melissa, Jonathan, Jessica, and maybe Rex(she probably either talks to Rex once in a while/ or he’s gone off somewhere. But I think that’s who Dess usually talks to. But knowing Scott, he’d probably create a relationship that you wouldn’t expect). Maybe she’s slept through the blue time for a while now and since she’s now had an ecounter w/ another midnighter, maybe she has to pick up where she’s left off. Because at the end of Blue Noon, I kinda got the impression that the group wouldn’t be too close knit. And I would doubt that the next book would start off right where they left off.
Or maybe Dess, Rex, and an older Beth and Cassie have been working on getting Jessica out, and the NP is just news to them. But again I don’t know, these are just my thoughts.
And interesting nick on Anathea, I’m guessing that her name was intentional, but I don’t know to what extent. And yeah you’re not a geek, this sounds like a question that “I” would ask.
March 11th, 2007 17:25
I love everyones ideas for the next book, they’re a liitle bit different from mine, but I still think they’re great. I especially like the idea of it being a few years into the future, and I also like the Dess meeting the NP at a maths convention. I have to say, I wish I had thought of that before i started writing.
My version of the fourth book starts out only a few weeks after blue noon ends. It begins with Jonthan, Jessica, and Melissa finding out that Bixby wasn’t the only plase with a secret hour, and that Flagstaff, Arizona has one too. (Cordinents: 36 112. I know, 112 is not a multiple of 12, but I wanted it to be in northern Arizona, and 112 was as close as I could get)
So, Jonathon, Melissa, and Jessica find this place, and in it there is a group of midnighters, a seer, a mindcaster, a time bender, and an acrobat. In this place, there are parts of the lore that aren’t and Bixby, and the grand canyon is a giant lore sight (this is why I wanted it to be in Northern Arizona) So, they call Rex, (the ringing of the phone drives him cray) and tell him this, and they decide to all travel to Bixby, on the way Melissa and the New mindcaster taste the (Maleficent Concealer/Nefarious Trickster/Stainless Dissimulator. I still haven’t decided on a name yet.) They have no idea what the taste is, but Melissa says it tastes kind of like Rex does because of the whole halfling thing in the second book, only stronger. That’s about as far as I’ve gotten. What do you think? As I said before, I wish I had come up with some of your ideas before I started writing. Or maybe I can write another fourth book when I’m done. Of course, I’m hoping that the next fourth book will be written by Scott and not me. (hint hint)
March 11th, 2007 18:12
Sounds cool. I’m working on sort of an alternate midnighters story, focusing on an entirely different town and the midnighters who live there. The main characters include a mindcaster who can read lore symbols, a bonemender (see above comments on new talents), a polymath, a Soldier, twin acrobats, an empath, and a seer (who’s slightly remeniscient of Madeleine). I was thinking I might also have Melissa, Jonathan and Jessica show up at the end, but not have any real part in the story other than that.
March 12th, 2007 05:08
ornithology’s lycanthropical unhealthiness. (like bird flu but it turns u into a werewolf. and the apostrophe has to count as a letter. )most of the worlds problems can be solved with a thesaurus. (or not)
perhaps Scott is working on these ideas we’ve discussed, and maybe now he cant use them so:
I, nick, hereby give my full permission for any ideas expressed in this column to be used by anyone.
that should do it
March 12th, 2007 05:48
Alissa, that’s kind of what I was orignally thinking of writing when I started my book, but I have too much fun writing about Melissa and Dess, so I ended up making it a fourth book instead of a parrallel book. Good luck with your story.
Also, I herby give my permission for any ideas expressed in this column to be used by anyone.
Scott, use any ideas you would like, and anyone else, use whatever ideas you would like to use also.
March 12th, 2007 05:58
Okay, so my friend and I were sitting at the computer looking up tridecalogisms, and my sister and her friend were right next to us eating breakfast. ((They’re like gothic-ish)) And they ask us why we’re looking up 13 letter words. So we tell them its so that when Samhain comes around we will not die!!! And we say it how its spelt right? Like Sam-Hane. And they freak out, which was wierd since we didnt even think they would know what we were talking about, but they’re like, “No its SAMHAIN!” but pronounced it Sawin. it was so CRAZY! I loved it!
March 12th, 2007 12:36
Oh ,you guys and Scott included have my absolute permission to use and or morph any of my ideas posted in this column too!(oh and sorry, this is a pretty long post.):
Um interesting on the next book guys. Just wondering mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, but is there any other specific reason, besides the grand canyon, behind the Arizona setting?And interesting Alissa on the whole new town scene.
But I somehow picture the next book with a split narration( like Melissa, Jessica, and Jonathan, and then Dess,Rex,Beth, and Cassie). And the book may in either one of 3 ways:
(1).Start w/ Dess in some top notch university and maybe the other polymath(male), bumps into her or challenges her in class or something. Then maybe while the NP’s working, she notices how quickly he answers questions or something. And maybe she later goes to her apartment/dorm while on a cell phone w/ Rex, and finds Melissa and Jonathan waiting there during daytime, after not seeing or hearing from them in a while? It’s a posibility.(And maybe Melissa dyed her hair or something).
(2). Or it could start w/ some midnighter(not the narrator) living in some place like M O S C O W , R U S S I A . She wakes up for the first time in the blue time and instead of frozen rain, it’s frozen snow. She’s touching the snow and turns around after hearing a noise to see Jessica, Melissa, and Jonathan(someone’s appearance might have shifted a bit), and they’re w/ a divergent- communicator because maybe they think she only speaks Russian but she really speaks english but w/ a strong russian accent.(Oh and nick to add on to the divergent- communicator, maybe they can make people speak whatever language they want them to). So they give her the little orientation to the secret hour and try to figure out here talent…
(3). Or maybe the next book could just start w/ an older and more informed(lore/ect.) Beth, who thinks that she’s come across a midnighter at a restaurant in either bixby or chicago. And she informs Rex, Dess, and Cassie, who’ve been working on getting Jessica out of the dimension.
Oh and interesting on the whole SAMHAIN bit Savannah. That would freak me out though if one of my sisters blurted out something like that and pronounced it differently. But it would still be pretty fawesome.
March 12th, 2007 13:57
Ok, the reason for it being set in Arizona is not only the grand canyon thing, but also because I live in Arizona. I was originally going to do more southern Arizona, closer to Yuma or Bisby (Bixby/Bisby I thought it worked out well) But the cordinents didn’t work out. Also, I thought the grand canyon thing would be a cool idea. (It would be great if Jonathon and Jessica jumped the canyon. Also, I thought that it would be great to have frozen snow, but I didn’t want them to be stuck in a blizzard. So, Arizona worked. I also wanted them to be able to travel to Bixby without it taking days. So, Arizona is pretty close. It works on the traveling thing. That’s pretty much the reason I have it in Arizona.
And, I do agree that the fourth book should have multiple narroraters. That’s kind of how I’m writing mine, with Jessica, Jonathon, Melissa, Rex, Dess, and Beth being the narrorators, along with a few new characters from Arizona.
I like your ideas for how the fourth book would start. (Note to self: Before starting to write a sequel to a series of books, go on the authors site and ask for suggestions.) I’m probably going to end up writing more then one version of the fourth book. Well, it will keep me busy this summer.
March 13th, 2007 05:39
Cool Demesiona, but actually i thought the divergent communicator would only be really good at speaking languages, but couldnt make other people speak them (like jonathan can w/ flying) but still a cool idea! also moscow russia only has 12 letters, unless u count the comma but maybe that means tons of darklings live there. hmmmm, now whats russian for midnight ?
March 13th, 2007 05:46
Here’s what Russian for Midnighters looks like:
http://scottwesterfeld.com/blog/?p=78
And I have a new post about Midnighters in Germany coming up soon.
(See? I’m always lurking . . . )
March 13th, 2007 05:51
cool, midnighters in cyrillic.
March 13th, 2007 08:04
This is all so fawesome!!!
Yeah mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I thought you lived somewhere in Arizona. I’m moving to Buckeye. And I would totally love to read about jessica and jonathan flying over the grand canyon, that would be amazing. And interesting narrations, I like.Oh and thanks on my ideas. I’m glad you brought up this whole topic of writing the fourth book, it’ll definetly give me something to do over the summer too!
Oh and yeah nick, the divergent- communicator should probably be good just at speaking different languages because that’s what’s so special about THEIR talent. Oh and I used M O S C O W, R U S S I A BECAUSE it was a darkling number/place, because those are places where I believe that midnighters are most prominent.But then again midnight expanded over ALL areas. Though I don’t know, I just think that the whole darkling number place is pretty significant.
Oh, Privet Ckott!!! That cover’s pretty wierd but still totally fawesome! Well it definetly looks like Bixby but the characters are totally off like you said. But very interesting.Though honestly Scott, at first glance in a book store, I wouldn’t know it was from you because your covers tend to be a little more modern and realistic , and have a sort of vagueness that I like. But the Russian cover and the slithers, are still pretty fool. And I agree, midnighters in cyrillic is TOTALLY FAWESOME!!
March 13th, 2007 08:23
omg! scoot u posted about 20 min after i left the computer so not fair! i was in study hall and the bell rang.
also the girl on the cover of the Russian version of Midnighters reminds me of Amanda Bynes. anyone else see it? oh and btw i HAVE to come to new jersey on wednesday. i mean it is olny an hour and 10 min from my house according to mapquest. lol.
March 14th, 2007 05:56
soz i havent posted in a while internet crashed and burnied dess I agree with your under 15 narrator thin, Nick THANK YOU for he video wats the TV channel? and I think the time freezing Idea would be great for a last book where at the end a timebender comes along they go back in time to stop the darklings ever exsisting and then live happly ever after oh and the person on the front of the russian cover doesn’t look like jessica cause she doesn’t have lond ginger hair and looks to gothy cause remeber jessicas daylight and all cheery unlike miss. sunshine that is mellissa
March 14th, 2007 05:57
and what time does this site run by because its half 6 not six oclock
March 14th, 2007 05:57
no wait its accually 7 oclock here
March 14th, 2007 07:23
well right now its 8:25 pm in england
March 14th, 2007 07:25
which means that the website’s time must be Australian or something (11 hours ahead of GMT)
March 14th, 2007 08:52
Yeah, the time’s always way off for where I live, too. It’s 2:52 pm here.
March 14th, 2007 09:54
yes it is on australian time. its in the time zone where scott lives for half of the year.
March 14th, 2007 10:08
Yeah it must be on Austrailian time because it’s 4:08p.m. where I live.
March 14th, 2007 10:22
It must be in Austalian time, because it’s 4:22 here, and it’s only the 13th.
March 15th, 2007 10:57
Ok, so I’ve been rereading the midnighter books, and I have to say, there are so many things I find funny that I didn’t notice the first time I read them. I may just be completely insane, but a lot of the comments that Dess makes are hilarious. (I know, my friends think I’m crazy too.) Anyways, I was writing my fourth book, and originally I wasn’t sure if I was writing Dess and Melissa right, but after rereading, I am so happy because I got their personallities completely exact. (I’m so obsessed with what I’m writing that I’ve been caring my notebook with me everywhere. Again, everyone else things I’m crazy.)
March 15th, 2007 13:05
If you’re crazy mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, then I must be a freak! I was laughing like an idiot throughtout the whole series.HYSTERICALLY when Jessica’s parent’s found out that she had been arrested(hmm the SAFE old days). And don’t worry mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, devoted writers are simply misunderstood. I mean once in a while, I look back at the series and look at punctuation, and study the diagoue to clarify relationships(especially Dess and Melissa). Yep, writers and reader’s syndrome is something that I’m proud of and ironically, I wouldn’t cure myself for the world!
March 15th, 2007 13:28
Demensiona I’m with you. Today we were taking a test in science, and I got done early, so I was reading midnighters. I got to page 60 in the hard cover copy of Blue Noon, and they’re all at Maddie’s after the first eclipse, I started cracking up laughing when Dess is saying that that Jonathon is hopeless without Jessica around, and that in the daylight time he couldn’t even fly. Then she askes what’s he supposed to do, wash the curtains. I cracked up laughing. Everyone around me was staring at me like I was an idiot, but I really don’t care. It’s hilarious!
March 15th, 2007 14:55
Wait, what? You’re still in school? I’m in vacation time! Oh well when I move to Arizona, I’ll be on your schedule too!
Ugh, why does everyone stare at us when we laugh(for me it’s even smiling)? But as you mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I absolutley don’t care a bit, my classmates are frozen in time when I read.
Oh my gosh, I lOVE THAT PART, oh ny gosh that’s so random! I even cracked up when/ or whenever Jessica flashes someone in the eyes w/ illumination/enilghtment! But in a triology like midnighters, you NEED comic relief, and I was completley satasfied to a t!
So would the class rather see us laughing or crying? Well it’s definetly not up to them, it’s solely up to the midnighters!
March 16th, 2007 09:05
wait vacation time?!?!?!? what?!?!?! i want to be on vacation! what spring break or something? we don’t get that. *tear* :’( and I know exactly how you feel. im always reading in class and during study hall the one day i was like YEAH! because i found out that Scott was writing Extras and everyone’s like what? and im like WHOOOOO!
March 16th, 2007 09:10
Once again this is way off-topic, but I was really bored and did some calculations, and technically an imperial day in the Risen Empire is longer than a normal Earth day, even though it only has ten hours, due to the fact that every minute has 100 seconds and every hour has 100 minutes. So technically an imperial day is 1 hour and 36 minutes imperial time longer than a normal day. (Can you tell how bored I am yet? lol)
March 16th, 2007 10:25
Or Imperial seconds could be slightly shorter.
But yeah, whatever the day-length of Home is, that’s what they adjusted their seconds to fit.
March 16th, 2007 10:25
ImInLoveWithJonathan, what do you MEAN you don’t have SPRING BREAK!! And yeah, I was(am!) so excited about extras that I told my english teacher and other people who haven’t even READ the series!
And Alissa, lets just say that you’ve turned boredem into GENIUS! And I’m guessing that I should read the Risen Empire?
Oh and while looking through REALlY previous comments Alissa, I’ve noticed that you’ve been on the spoiler zone the longest, then TALLY, then ME…! Oh my gosh, we’re ALL bored! But it’s been ironically fun! But a fourth book or even just a COMPLETLY new series is needed, because hence the Risen Empire, I’ve read all of Scott’s books that I can possibly comprehend.
Now I have to wait until October for EXTRAS and Stephenie Meyer’s ECLIPSE! Oh the awaited October is going to be book heaven! But what about the midnighters, my TRUELY favorite series(by a milimeter). There hasn’t really been any KNOWN progress for a while now.
One book is all I ask, just ONE book!
March 16th, 2007 10:49
oh my gosh Scott, this is a little off topic, but when I posted my comment, your comment wasn’t there, weird!
March 16th, 2007 11:33
Demensiona, no fair! You’re on Spring Break. Well, actually ours starts next week, so I shouldn’t be complaining.
Any ways, we had field day today (sarcastic yippee), and my friend I were bored, so we started sharing my third midnighters book and reading it. We were scanning it for funny parts, and I have to say that we were cracking up laughing like we were reading a joke book. Of course, if we had gotten to the end that would have changed.
I am so excited about Extras too. I can’t wait. Only seven and a half months to go!
March 16th, 2007 17:52
Yeah, I didn’t know what Imperial seconds are like so I just used normal ones. Bordom and a calculator into genius lol. I could never do that kind of math in my head (my personal area of genius in languages).
March 17th, 2007 03:43
I know it is so not fair. stupid catholic high school. we get off for “easter vacation” for about 5 days. SO not fair. and scott you should be happy to know that i have gotten 9 people to read the midnighters. they are very happy with it.
March 17th, 2007 04:51
whooooooooooo i got out early from school today because of “inclement weather” namely hail. i had to walk home in it and me and my friends got pelted with ice. i love winter weather
March 17th, 2007 04:52
by the way scott, how did the thing in new jersey go? my dad simply refused to drive me and hour and 10 min to go. *tear* :’(
March 17th, 2007 08:09
Gosh, I guess I AM the only one currently on vacation. And YAY mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I’m glad that you’re keeping count of the time before extras, me too!!
Oh and Alissa, which languages do you speak?
And whoa ImInLoveWithJonathan, you guys get out if it HAILS?Lucky! And I suppose it wouldn’t be SO bad to have SHORT if ANY vacations if the school rocks! But my current school sucks, so vacations are NEEDED!
Hey could you guys imagine a MIDNIGHTER academy?, That would be totally fawesome!!
March 17th, 2007 08:36
ImInLoveWithJonathan, I can’t believe you get out of school if it hails! I wish is would hail here. I wish it would rain here. In fact I wish we could get any sort of precipitation. I hate the dry Arizona weather!
(I just realized that precipitation is a thirteen letter word. I’m going to have to write it into my story.)
March 17th, 2007 12:16
I don’t really speak anything but english fluently, Demensiona, but I know a little of lots of languages: Spanish, Welsh, Japanese, Mandarin, Latin, Greek, Dutch, French… There’s more, but it would take too long to list. I like studying languages, but I’m best with accents and dialects, so I know more of those.
March 18th, 2007 01:59
we had a GIGANTIC hail storm. Me and my friends were walking from the bus stop and by the time we got to my house, our hair was frozen, we could barely blink our eylashes had so much ice on it, and we have about 3 inches (mabey more im not sure. i havent been outside since it stopped a few hours ago) of ice. we went out to shovel and by the time we finished shoveling, there was MORE ICE WHERE WE JUST SHOVELED!
March 18th, 2007 02:06
Ohh Alissa I know Japenese I love it so much! I have to learn it cause I do judo I also read when were meant to be doing tests I alsway finish like half and hour early
March 18th, 2007 02:12
Does anyone here like to write books? I’m [Trying to] write one now but ive only done 3781 words or 9 pages!
March 18th, 2007 04:05
alright, this might sound a little weird, but my sister’s writing a book (aaaaaaaaargh, no thats not the weird bit) and she asked me to write a language 4 it. which i’m tring to do. its quite hard (allright its really really really hard.) But cool
March 18th, 2007 04:21
I love to write books, but most of my attempts so far have ended up being long short stories. I’m working on one write now though that’s thirty eight pages long, front and back, hand written. (It’s actually my version of the fourth midnighters book.) I’m also working on another one, but it’s only about eighteen pages long, and it’s been very slow going the last couple of weeks. I love to write!
March 18th, 2007 07:16
I’m always in the middle of writing some novel or another (although I’ve never actually finished one) and I get my brother to sketch the weapons, tech, flags, etc. I can draw people well and he draws inanimate objects better than me, so it works.
Midnightmagic: I know some Korean that I learned in Taekwon Do, but it’s mostly commands like “Attention” “Ready” and “Begin match”, and counting. It’s still funny whenever I go somewhere to see people’s reactions when I count in Korean, though lol.
March 18th, 2007 14:06
Hey everybody!! But in order to finish my post I’ll turned the enthusiasm down a bit!
Gosh, I’m just SO excited that the show is definetely in the works, but what’s w/ the FREAKIN AGES! What are they expecting, “A” season, because the ultimate purpose of setting characters in high school is to lengthen the time for the show, I would think.(Take Samllville for instance, 4 glorious years of high school, and 2 years of ****, ha ha just kidding). But you guys get the drift, right?
Mistranslated Nonelectrical Ornimentation, Arizona weather can’t be that bad, can it?(ugh please don’t scare me before I even move there).Oh and keep writing, that’s awesome!
And ImInLoveWithJonathan, we should rename Philidelphia “ICELAND’(in the VERY literal sense).
And gee Alissa are you kidding me? Wow, VERY impressive. You’ve listed 10 languages. So when you become fluent in all these languages, what does that make you, a what-lingual? I would love to find out.
Me myself, I’m only fluent in English, but I say in about a year or 2, I’ll be fluent in Espanol too, and I know some Russian.And you’re an artist Alissa, cool, me to, but I’m more skilled in making collages.
And cool nick, have any sample words?
Oh yeah and cool too Midnightmagic, Japanese is fawesome? And yeah I totally love to write too . So much that I’m certain I WILL write actual books, then you guys will be able to see my real name(Jasmine,haha).Is that the case for any of you guys? Or is writing simply pleasure?
And keep writing Writers, because besides all of our favorite authors and awesome newcomers, other authors seem to be running out of material.
March 18th, 2007 14:12
Sorry for the typos: “SMALLVILLE”,Shame on ME! and “Japanese IS Fawesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!”(no QUESTIONS there). Oh and sorry on the length too!
March 18th, 2007 15:34
Ok, first of all, I’m so happy that the midnighters show is underway, but it just wouldn’t work right if they made the midnighters in their 20’s. I mean if they’re planning on doing it off of the story line of the books, then it just wouldn’t work. I mean, the curfew wouldn’t mean anything. Jessica would have no way of getting grounded, and also she wouldn’t be living with Beth and the rest of her family, and unless they’re planning on making it that the show starts after the books have already happened, and everyone’s now in their 20’s, then where are they supposed to meet Jessica, in a business meeting?
Also, Demensiona I have to say, that the weather here isn’t that bad during the winter, but I’m not going to lie and say that summer is just wonderful. I mean last year we got up to 118 degrees or so, and we also beat our record of how many days without rain last year. Now the record is 120 something. (I think, I know it’s over a hundred.) Don’t worry though, you get used to it, and this winter down in the southeast it snowed. Also, Flagstaff and Prescott, (Two towns up north) usually get a good amount of snow during the winter. So, it’s really not that bad, and during the winter it can get pretty cold. During the summer, just make sure to turn up your air conditioner, or find a good pool to hang out in all summer. So, that’s my wonderful weather report from the grand canyon state.
Also, Alissa you can speak what, 10 languages. That’s very impressive. I can only speak English, a little bit of sign language, and a very limited amount of espanol. Of course, I’m taking Spainish in the next couple of years, so I hope to become pretty skilled in that. I also love that you are an artist. I am forrible at drawing people, but I’m more of the oil painting, ceramics type. Also, writing is not only my hobby, it’s eventually going to be my life long career or at least I hope so.
March 18th, 2007 16:57
I can’t actually speak all those languages, I just know the basics. If I spent a few months around people who spoke them regularly I’d be fluent in them, though. And I can usually read any latin-based language. Demensiona, I think that would be multi-lingual lol. Yeah, I’m an artist. Pencil, mostly, but I used to do acrylics when I was like, thirteen. I mostly do sort of manga-style, but I’m working on trying for a more realistic style as well.
March 19th, 2007 07:22
Hey good points on the midnighter show mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I didn’t even think into those depths. Yeah they can’t change the ages of the midnighters, at this rate I wonder if the show is even going to be set in Bixby, Oklahoma.
And thanks on the weather report, air conditioning sounds very comforting. And interesting mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I’M forrible in oil painting. I mean being left handed is such a struggle for me when doing oil painting, the wrong colors mix and smear, ugh. And that’ fawesome mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, and if really WANT writing as a lifelong career, you’ll have it, no questions down.
And Alissa, you would/will be multi- lingual? I thought 10 would have something like bi/or tri-lingual, hmm interesting. Oh and manga style’s totally fawesome, but I ‘ve heard it’s hard to get out of. Yeah and Realism is totally fool too!
March 19th, 2007 08:55
Being left-handed effects your painting? I’m left-handed (mostly), and I never had any problems when I painted seascapes. The problem with manga mostly is how perfectly you tend to draw everyone. To draw reality you have to have the imperfections as well, and that’s always what’s hardest for me, being able to draw uglies as well as pretties. But when you can it ends up looking even prettier than when it’s perfect.
March 20th, 2007 02:48
I want to accually publish a book I wrote one that was 26 pages but got boared but my next one is cool. I LOVE ART!!! Im doing GCSE art next year I always come 1st in art.Im sorta fluent in japenese i can say stuff like watashi no namae wa Alex des.
March 20th, 2007 06:06
alissa, you could also be… decalingual? sure lets go with that. I’m jelous of my cousins who live in Glendale, AZ. My one cousin was like is waterworld open yet? while we were in the middle of a snow storm. so not fair. lol. and im in the midst of writing my own book. still in sketch mode working out plot complications and trying to come up with a really good conflict.
March 20th, 2007 07:07
ha, it snowed today. Of course, it didnt stay on the ground or anything, so no snowballs, but still, snow in March in England is kinda weird. Its paranoia time! Oh No, the gulf stream is stopping !!! oh well, global warming will balance it out in a few decades.
March 20th, 2007 07:15
I think Alissa, being left-handed effects your paintings depending on how you hold your brush/crayon/pencil.
See in some water color paintings, I WANT the colors to smear. But if I’M doing oil paintings, and w/ the way I hold my utensils, at least 3 unwanted colors will mix(2 from the side of my hand, one on the paper). Also if I’m using an exacto knife to carve a person and stars into cardboard, I’ll slice my ring finger, and I might have to get like a TB test or something if it’s like a used knife. But then again I’ve done some fawesome pieces of artwork but not solely on being left handed, but also on skill. Hey being left- handed didn’t/hasn’t effected Jessica too much, I’m adjusted.
And that’s fool midnightmagic, Art, writing, and Japanese are fawesome!
And ImInLoveWithJonathan, Alissa would be a decalingual? Cool, how many people can say that they are? Oh and you’re in the best mode of sketching, conflicts, my favorite!!! I wonder, from your experience, if WEATHER will be a conflict?
March 20th, 2007 08:23
cool, i’m sort of an honorary leftie (umm yeah) because i am right handed, but sort of ambidextrous (only 12 letters there), but not completely. For example, i write with my right, but play basketball etc with my left. so it balances out.
And if you use your left when writing or painting, it gets all smudged.
Interesting question: do people who write ‘backwards’ (Hebrew, Arabic, etc.) force children to write lefthandedly, to stop smudging?
March 20th, 2007 09:33
Whoa nick, I didn’t see your comment before I posted.Cool, you’re in england, that’s awesome!
And interesting. I never used left-handed scissors, right-handed scissors are WAY more comfortable. And hmm, maybe, on the question. I’ve never really thought about it, but it would make sense to force children then to write lefthandedly. Hmm, not sure, definetely something to think about!
March 20th, 2007 09:45
I wonder if they would make kids write with their left hand or not. Somebody should look that up. I guess writing with you left hand would be easier when writing backwards like that, and if you did write with your right hand you would have to be very careful.
March 20th, 2007 10:44
Interesting. My paint never smeared, but then I always held my hand a couple inches away from the canvas. And yeah, I write/draw left-handed, but my sparring stance is right-handed, and I can write right-handed, but I have an entirely different handwriting style that way.
I never heard anything about writing Arabic, etc. lefthanded, but it’s possible.
March 21st, 2007 06:18
as a matter of fact weather was part of the conflict early on. it was more smog and acid rain and such but that could still be considered weather i suppose. can you imagine? “yes today we will be having some acid rain showers over the city. dont forget your hazmat suits and protective clothing. have a nice day.” im begining to think my weathers not so bad. its all melting now so its all wet and stuff. its supposed to get hotter really soon. stupid weather fluctuations(um i spell phoneticly. bear with me.)
March 21st, 2007 07:12
I can accually write with both hands Im naturally right handed but since i was like 7 ive been impoving my left hand skill by wirting and using these exercise things u can get I also try doing judo left handed sometimes anyway does anyone know anything about keep wolfdogs (wolf hybrids) in northern Ireland?? cause I really want one and have tryed looking it up on the net but thats crap ive loved wolves since i was 3!
March 21st, 2007 07:49
Hey, guys. Real important question!! Okay, first off. Does anyone know how Scott got the Teutonic Symbols for his midnighters symbols?? Cause I’ve googled it and got nothing, and everybody knows google has like everything! And second, I noticed that Nick and Demensiona both created their own talent… could I get those in like one comment or something??? Pretty pretty please???
March 21st, 2007 08:30
I think Scott just made up the midnighters symbols, I don’t think they’re actually related to anything. And about a hundred comments back everyone was making up talents, we’ve probably got almost thirty by now.
March 21st, 2007 11:58
Hey guys, I’ve got the current midnighter talent list, get ready for it:
(1)Bonemender(heal injuries through touch)
(2)Empath(sense emotions/more understanding)
(3)Soldier(darkling fighting machine/ emotionally unstable)
(4)Skin-Walker(shift form for travel/hiding)
(5)Hyperquenched(control/freeze ice at certain speed)
(6)Transmigratorious(1 twin born at midnight/transports others into midnight.What becomes of other twin?)
(7 & 8 another type of twins)
(7)Guide(stiffs into midnight)
(8)Guardian(Guards transition point into midnnight)
(9)Divergent-Communicator(speaks diff./many languages/knows all tridecologisms.)
(10)Halfling(more human/black wings/slithers follow)
(11)Helion(control/bend light)
(12)Ignitmus-Toxin(make things grow(plants) that produce toxins that affect darkling/slither’s coordination)
(13)Sketcher(sketch what they need/want)
(14)Magnitus( have magnetic force that steers slithers in a certain direction, slithers follow them. Have gravitational force the hinders/aide acrobats)
(15)Hypnotist(Make darkling/slithers fall asleep through ,hypnotist, into thinking that it’s daytime)
(16)Illusionist(invisibility)
(17)Dream Gatherer(Act as dream catcher/view nightmares of the past,take mental notes on darkling scare tactics/no emotional fear of darkling/sliters/by touching someone’s forehead, release them from greatest fears for certain period of time/darklings and slithers keep their distance away from them).
(18)Screecher(Pitch of verbal scream,screech damages darkling/slither’s hearing. Only darkling/slithers hear their screech.Compose/play mathematical compositions like Bach)
(19)Capritempra-Pecularist(moodstone)(Change colors of midnight accoording to mood, calm other’s through touch.Born between DEC.22-Jan.19)
(20)Trepid Stagnant(In crisis, literally freeze themselves in place into steel. Nothing hurts them when in this state.Put others into this state too by creating chain link.Use only during the blue time. One of the most powerful talents)
(21)Subsenilist(Can Age themselves/someone/or something/or make them younger/newer). Can repair damaged metals and make tridecogolisms reusable again. Age someone if there’s a curfew encounter)
(22)Time Bender(retrieve inanimate obejects from the past)
(23).Stainless Dissimulator(guiltless pretender),Nefarious Trickster(sinful deciever),or Maleficent Concealer(one that conceals evil)-we need to pick one.
-On the darkling’s side, change form, mindcasters can’t detect them, they can’t be trusted.
(24).Crafter(create entricate and complicated designs(weapons) in medal, in the speed of light)
(25)Flame dominator(no name really given/shoots fire,heats things up)
(26)We need one that involves photography
(27)One that involves food
(28)One w/ weather
(29)one that doesn’t feel pain/harmful effects in daytime
(30) A psychic(don’t know how to spell it)/ maybe blindness
(31)Telekenisis
(32) Someone made out of steel/braces and plates in head(thinks like a computer)
(33)Deaftness
-I’m pretty sure that’s all. Whoa I’m exhausted but it’s totally FAWESOME! You guys can elaborate on any of the talents, namely talents 26-30. Or any other ones you guys come up w/!
March 21st, 2007 18:51
#30 Posibility: someone who is blind, but can ’see’ the currents of midnight, midnighters, darklings, etc. Sort of like a seer, only way more intense. In daytime she can only see midnighters and things touched by midnight, but during midnight she can see everything, as well as where darklings have been, and the places midnight is stronger or weaker. She also has a limited ability to see the future, and things that are happening in other places (maybe). She could also hang around with the Deceiver, but more because he’s the only midnighter she’s ever known than because she sympathizes with his cause.
March 22nd, 2007 02:05
Thank you SOO much!!! Those are really really cool too! Did I say why I needed them? I don’t think I did, so I’ll go ahead and tell you. Two of my friends and I are rabid Midnighters fans, but we suck at making up talents. We wanted to write something together, like a book about the generation of midnighters that Madeline was from. The problem was that Scott’s books said that there were lots and lots of talents not mentioned. And since we suck at creating our own, I was wondering if you guys would mind if we borrowed yours???
March 22nd, 2007 04:59
A small variation on Alissa’s one, perhaps this person didnt have any particular talent when he/she came to bixby (they didnt know like for Jessica), but then a darkling scratched his eyes out, so now he can only see by people’s ’spirit-light’ (like their aura.) which means they are sort of blind, but everyone ‘glows’ and they can see it, a bit like infrared vision, but not.
Also I came up with the Piper, who’s a bit like the Screecher, but he has a flute or something, which is metal and has a 3 tridecalogism name.
Also i didnt really say this, but maybe the helion can become quasi-invisible, because he can bend the light around him in a sort of bubble, so he does not block it out (it goes around him)
March 22nd, 2007 06:34
for the one about photography- they should also be on the darkling’s side (sort of like when ernesto was taking pictures at the stroke of midnights to record the changes) only be able to take pictures during midnight as well. or they could be good and us the pictures to add to the lore.
March 22nd, 2007 06:36
and 33- deftness? do you mean like dexterous, nimble, skillful, clever? or did u mean DEAFness? caus eif u meant deafness it would be cool if they could hear the darklings thought and the beating of the darklings wings and everything the darklings were doing. that might be cool.
March 22nd, 2007 07:02
good point, both would be cool, deftness perhaps cooler as you can have really quick reactions so he would be good at fighting darklings
Also i asked my mum about the writing ‘backwards’ and lefthandedness issue, and she said that people normally write wtih their right hands, because thats the way their brains are, not which way they write, so left handed people are mentally different than righthanders, not stupid or anything, just different. Of course, they smudge stuff when writing.
and in the middle ages people thought lefthandedness was the sign of the devil. people were burned as ‘witches’ for using their left hand.
i didnt expect the Spanish inquisition. NO-ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION (monty python)
also latin for left is sinister (like evil) and latin is Dexter (like that weirdo cartoon about a boy genius and also dexterous)
March 22nd, 2007 07:31
Okay guys, these talent’s are fawesome! Oh and you’re welcome Savannah. I’m sure everyone will let you borrow their talents but you have absolute permission for talents 12-24 and 32.
Lets start w/ blindness: Okay Alissa and nick, I just merged your talents:
(30).Phosphorescence(name can change/means flicker): This one literally got their corneas scratched which only enables them to see flickers of light and blurry images.So everyone glows and this midnighter see people’s aura. They also see places in midnight that are weaker or stronger, and can only really see things touched by midnight and midnighters.And see FLICKERS of things that are going to happen in other places.
Oh and interesting on Piper and Helion, noted!
And we need to pick a name for 23:
-Nefarious Trickster: Sinful deceiver
-Maleficient concealer:One that conceals evil
-Stainless Dissimulator:Guiltless Pretender
-Anyone? Savannah?
-And as for other talents:
(33).Earless percipient/Auditorius(I don’t know a name): Okay this person may literally be deaf in the daytime but maybe they hear heart beats in like surround sound , so they can maybe perceive emotion or intent(panic/love).They can also know it someone’s coming near them.And they can hear pain and flutes.
(26).Hour seizer(hour:last possible moment): Enables them to take permanent mental images. Their memory is inerasable. They can take cameras into the blue time and capture images of the blue time and of daklings. If someone sees the images on photos taken by this midnighter, that person will never forget the image. Risky talent.
-That’s about it for now. Keep on thinking and elaborating!!
March 22nd, 2007 07:51
Oh my gosh, AGAIN I didn’t see ImInLoveWithJonathan and nick’s comments before I posted.
Oh that’s awesome ImInLoveWithJonathan! Oh and I meant DEAFNESS, is that even a word? But yeah. I love the beating of wings and the photographer from the dark side. We are actually coming up w/ some midnighters on the darklings side. What an interesting complication!
And nick, that evil left-handed bussiness is really interesting. And isn’t latin fawesome! Makes so much sense.
Oh and this is a little off topic but here’s the songs that I thought of when reading the epilogue. You don’t have to pay any attention to the videos, just the lyrics of the songs:
(1). From the beginning of the epilogue to the conversation between Dess and Melissa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R5keIoOozE
(2).From the conversation to Dess’s last words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pen0l54i-uE
(3).Movie Credits!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vFaoA7t2RE
Enjoy! And keep making midnighter talents!
March 22nd, 2007 08:33
Ok, for number 23, I ended up using Maleficent Concealer for that one in my book. That was my favorite name for it. Also, thanks Demesiona for the list of powers. It’s been a lot of help. I was also thinking that we need to come up with a few other powers that would be helpers of number 23, because it would make a battle scene between number 23 and the other midnighters a whole lot more interesting. Again, thank you so much for the wonderful list of midnighter talents/powers.
March 22nd, 2007 17:33
Oh you’re very welcome mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation! And great on the name(that’s my favorite too and I think that name has the most dramatic definition)! And you’re right on the evil business let me see if I can come up w/ some.
(Okay I promise, this will be my last midnight talent additions for a while. I’m putting myself on talent probation:
Here’s my last words, (At least for a little while,haha):
(27). Voracitus(desire to eat)(This one’s kind of disgusting):They’re vegetarians(literally can’t consume meat), during daytime. During the secret hour, they have an abnormal and overwhelming craving for darkling scent and flesh. They also have razor sharp teeth that break through metal and bone. They suck up/eat darkling’s energy.Can play dead by looking emaciated, and they have fear of blood. They’re pretty light in weight, the sudden rush gravity gives them temporal stomach aches.
(29).Anguish eluder(can change the name): This midnighter feels no pain during the bluetime, and their cut and scrapes dissapear in the blue time. They can fall off buildings and cut themselves. They’re clumsy and they experience excessive soreness and bleeding in the daytime/ they’re in constant pain(no medication works). Can relieve/transfer their pain into others by choice through touch.
(23).Wind chime: Can cause natural disasters, make weather warm or cold, bring winds,rain, and snow. The weather changes burn/rip darkling’s skin.
(32).Thought Grinder(can change name):This person by chance/unintentionally ends up w/ metal infused/inserted into their body. Steel braces, piercings etc. And they all have steel plates inserted into their head so their thoughts, drive darklings crazy.
(34).Luminousist(can change name) :This midnighter’s features are intensified and clearer in the secret hour. Females wear make-up(weapon) and fabrics that give off brilliant color.They have a sweet scent that burns darkling’s skin and eyes. These midnighters are mute during the blue time. And they have low self-esteem.
-Okay that’s all I’m talking for a while, now I’m just listening and answering yes or now or questions and or clarifications, haha!
March 23rd, 2007 02:28
ok my last post isnt showing up so im going to post it again. if it shows up twice sorry.
question, why is the luminousist mute? and why and how would wearing makeup cause the darklings harm? i mean it sounds like it might be cool but i dont really understand your logic. can you please elaborate on that talent?
and the one involving pain- they should be able to transfer their pain to darkling or the midnighters on the darkling’s side to act as a distraction or kill them. unless of course they were on the darkling’s side and used their power to effect the midnighters.
and new talent! cant think of a name but it will kind of be like zombification. they should be able to make stiffs do their bidding during midnight and after the blue time is over they dont remeber anything. this midnighter would probably be on the darkling’s side because i cant see the good guys exploiting people.
March 23rd, 2007 05:02
Okay for the whole make- up bit, these midnighters are pratically glowing and by wearing make-up, their features will give off these painful rays of color(blue time’s pretty dull) that literally blinds darkling’s(they’re basically like flash lights) and irritates their skin(like a sun burn). Oh as for the whole being mute thing, it’s kind of just the whole beauty speaks for itself thing, and to just cause complications. I hope I was clear enough,sorry!
The pain transfer can be up to you guys, we need some more evil midnighters so go ahead.
Oh fawesome talent ImInLoveWithJonathan, I wanted to do something w/ memory loss but I didn’t know what/how.But wait, who’s doing the bidding? Yep these midnighters will definetly be on the dark side.
You know I just thought back to it but we’re going to need a symbol for EACH of these talents!
March 23rd, 2007 05:30
WOW OMG Dess u made up sooo many talents how bought beastamer for darklings oh and the V first song off utube creeped me out I don’t really like spiders
March 23rd, 2007 05:41
Yeah we are going to need a symbol for each of these talents. I already have one made up for the time bender. The maleficent concealer’s one needs to be very elaborate and dramatic. (I’m not sure what though) Demensiona, I love your ideas for 27, 29, 23,32,34. I get the makeup thing for number 34, but couldn’t we just have it that they give of the painful rays of colors even without makeup during the secret hour. Like maybe they have this natural glow or something. Just wondering.
March 23rd, 2007 06:30
the makeup one is ummm… interesting. perhaps a slightly toned down version of that is to have tatoos (perhaps only visible at midnight ) of tridecagrams or tridecalogisms tatooed or branded into them. Perhaps a morbid scene of self-mutilation with knives is needed. also this midnighter’s touch would be inimical (that word again) to darklings.
the zombification one sounds cool, but probably stay away from ‘classic’ zombies i.e. drooling, stumbling, stupid, what would be cooler is if they were temporarily turned into automata.
its a bit like a parasite from peeps
and now for something completely different;
one underlining Westerfeldian factor that Scott has used in all his novels (that i’ve read, except for uglies) is CATS.
Darklings and slithers in Midnighters. (also rex has one)
Immortal guinea pigs (in the testing sense) in the Risen Empire
Vectors of disease in Peeps
coincidence, i think not! Scott obviously has some obsession with cats, which leads me onto my next midnighter talent:
someone who can understand (NOT TALKING, its used too much ) animals. (a bit like the divergent communicator)
March 23rd, 2007 06:49
Two things i just thought of, what if a darkling was ‘born’ at ‘moonset’ (when normal time begins) it would be a sort of midnighter darkling at daytime. Of course, it couldnt go outside (or could it?) but a nasty surprise for anyone exploring a cave.
Secondly, it seems a polymath is a real thing,
here’s an excerpt from an email i got about a lecture about polymaths
Polymath event at the RI
Tomorrow night is our first event in the polymaths series. ‘The last man who knew everything’ with Andrew Robinson takes place on Wednesday 21 March at the Royal College of Surgeons at 7.00pm.
RI stands for royal institution (of science) and is an old institution that was formed (in the 1800’s!) to educate non-scientists about science.
Its also where Faraday talked about electromagnetism, (electromagnet has 13 letters).
The RI has the only building in london without fire alarms so its not just old people talking, they blow stuff up too
(one lecture i went to was about fireworks, and it went something like this:
Lecturer: now this firework is illegal in 15 countries, but i confiscated a few, anyway (produces a lighter) i’ll just hide in this bunker… BANG!)
Sorry that was slightly unrelated
March 23rd, 2007 06:55
oh like a mind connection so they don’t have to talk just think wat they want to say they culd be able to calm animals by reaching into their mind and talkong to them (beastamer)
March 23rd, 2007 06:59
There could be magnified senses like sight and hearing and smell (for a talent of course)
March 23rd, 2007 07:02
yeah that clears it up alot about the make up. thanks. and by zombification i didnt mean like ew living dead stuff. i meant that they are doing the bidding of the darklings wile in a trance. by stiffs i meant non-midnighters (that was what melissa called them) and nick that polymath stuff was wicked awsome. thanks for sharing!
March 23rd, 2007 08:27
http://www.rigb.org/rimain/index.jsp
the RI website
March 23rd, 2007 08:42
A variant on the pain-transfer: Someone who can survive fatal injuries, doesn’t bleed, injuries appear to heal in seconds, but even though they can’t kill the person they still feel the pain. They can channel their pain into other people, and they’re pretty much invincible, since injuries can’t kill them. They look normal to most people, but the Phosphorescence and possibly seers see them like they really are, with every wound they ever suffered.
March 23rd, 2007 14:43
Oh Midnightmagic, I guess I ‘ve gotten a little carried away but in a good way(that’s why I’m on talent probation). Oh and I’m not too fond of spiders either, I just love the song.
And thanks mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation on my ideas. I love yours too/Maleficient Concealer’s like one of my favorites, and I’ll definetly think of an elaboration.
But okay on the make-up bit(I knew I was taking a risk). The blue time spread EVERYWHERE so there’s definetely going to be some social diversity and varied backgrounds . In that, I’m pretty sure that all midnighters across the globe are not all social outcasts(for lack of a better word/I hate that term). I thought that paint on your face illuminated on the big screen would look fawesome. The secret hour’s pretty dull so why not add some color? But it’s totally up to you guys, feel free to change and elaborate!
And you’re welcome on the clarification ImInLoveWithJonathan. And yeah I know about the stiffs(Melissa’s like my favorite midnighter)! But let me get the talent straight again, these evil midnighters bid on darklings?Is that right? Because if not, sorry, I must be a little slow then.
And yeah nick, the polymath stuff is fawesome!
Oh and I love your variant Alissa, makes much more sense to me, fawesome!
-Oh guys and don’t forget talent (31.) telekenisis, and just keep on creating more talents! (remember I’m on talent probation)!
March 23rd, 2007 17:11
Um, okay this is cruel, but when Jessica got stuck in the blue time it didn’t make me cry. It didn’t even make me sad, because I never liked Jessica. She’s all…normal. 11:59. I like reading about everybody else more, because Dess, Melissa, and Rex are all such excellent characters. Jonathan is not quite as good, but is still multilayered. I did feel bad for him, because he liked Jessica. Also, I loved the little running-joke-type thing where Dess and Melissa kept calling each other Goths. Oh, and I loved the ending. LOVED it. I heart Dess. And Melissa. And Rex.(Not neccisarily(spelling?)in that order).
March 23rd, 2007 18:31
IndigoEyes, I agree with you on the subject of Jessica, not my favorite, either. I cried a little, but that was only because Rex got stuck in Bixby and Melissa left. Rex and Melissa are my favorite characters, and it was a shame to see such a perfect couple broken up. And not just that, they probably hadn’t gone more than a day without seeing each other in eight years. Losing someone like that would severely suck.
March 23rd, 2007 23:02
I FINISHED!!! WOOT! (My first comment was #723)
SAD ENDING, but thanks for the book, Scott. Very enjoyable!
March 24th, 2007 04:42
U have to watch some of the talents that are made up because everything in a book is going to happen and has to happen for a reason its notlike real life so take for example the timebender it will be critisized not for the creativness but for the way you can expanned it like if they were in they were there in the past why didn’t they destroy the first darkling and also tampering with the past is dangerous (as seen on primeval which I doupt u all watch) but it can destroy generations if an object was taken away when it is need for the futyre it would sever the ties of prophecy yes sorry that is relly complicated but some can can be expanned on too much im just saying I think to much
March 24th, 2007 05:55
First of all, on the subject of Jessica, I never really liked her either. My favorite characters have always been Dess and Melissa. I just thought the ending was sad because Melissa was leaving Rex, and because Jonathon would only get to see Jessica for one hour a day, which in the end would make Jessica only like 17 when Jonathon was 80. Things would get awkward a long time before then.
Also, Midnightmagic, on the subject of the time bender, yeah I’m kind of struggling with that one. I mean in what I’m writing it’s kind of simple because my time bender is in experienced, so she can only go back in time, which means that they wouldn’t want to go back to far due to the fact, that they would get stuck back in time. I was thinking though that maybe the time bender can like travel in time to like give the other midnighters more time to do things and stuff, but she can not change events in history. She can see, though what will happen in the future. (I really though, need to take more of a look at this power. If I come up with any thing I’ll elaborate.
Demensiona, you’re right about there being social diversity thing. I was just thinking about that, and if the blue time spread all over the world, then not only would we have social diversity, but age diversity. They won’t all be teenagers. We’ll have adults, toddlers, and people in like their 80’s too. (Just something to think about.)
March 24th, 2007 06:32
ok telekenisis- (yes i know that was a sad attempt at spelling) they could make very large weapons to fling at the darklings and be able to shoot them at them. they could also move things very large and obstuctive that wouldnt be able to be lifted. they could also be able to create a force feild type thing with their mind to protect the midnighters from the darklings.
March 24th, 2007 06:48
ok im going to try to explain my zombification talent again. i guess i havent been clear enough.
this midnighter will be on the dark side. they will be able to take a non midnighter and force them to do things for the darklings such as attack the good midnighters or something like that. the nonmidnighters (aka stiffs) would not be affected by metal with thirteen letter names because they are just regular humans. when midnight is over, they will have no memory of what happened because they werent actually “awake.” it would kind of be like darkling mind control on the stiffs.
March 24th, 2007 06:48
hope that clears things up. if not let me know. still trying to come up with a name.
March 24th, 2007 07:22
Ok thats ok MNO soz i couldn’t be bothered typing your name although it prbably took longer typing why i said MNO CRAP! and iminlovewithjonathan why would there be a midnighter on the dark side yes im sorry for questioning all of your theories butI do that it rather annoys people anyway how could a midnighter be on the darkside (we have milk AND cookies) because the darklings would be scared of them and vice versa
March 24th, 2007 07:38
omg! i love that. my icon says that on it! well i think that, like anathea the halfling, the darklings might have someone on their side. i dont know i mean, with rex and jonathan’s “personality conflicts” there might be conflicts where a midnighter might be tempted to go to the darkside. (i dont know for power mabey?) just a thought and i wanst the first one to come up with the idea. or at least i dont think i was…
March 24th, 2007 07:39
Okay! Look, on the whole epilogue thing, okay Melissa was/is my overall favorite midnighter, but you guys weren’t depressed? I mean Jessica may be my least(not even least, my fifth favorite midnighter), but when I found out that she was stuck in a dimension, that was a huge blow. I mean being realistic, Jessica probably won’t get out of the dimension for probably another 300 years(boom! Uglies time!), she won’t go to college or anything. And her parents not knowing,Beth and Jonathan, tore me to pieces. I mean I wasn’t depressed a bit for Dess because I know she’s going to be okay, I mean she said so herself(Inexhaustible Unsmotherable Extraordinary). Well I don’t know, enough of my depressive babbling.
And interesting point on the age diversity mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, very interesting topic! And no I love the time bender, I mean it might need a little more elaboration but it’s good!
And love the telekenisis talent too ImInLoveWithJonathan! Totally Fawesome!And you’ve completely cleared up zombification, totally fool!
March 24th, 2007 08:00
hmmmm, the telekinesis thing would be cool but how about a hailstorm of little splinters of metal, each one named, so without further ado, here’s a short passage about it, involving Melissa watching an unknown, unseen telekinete (ha a word 4 it apparently u call some1 with synesthesia a synesthete)
Melissa could feel the darklings now, like some insane chorus in her mind. They were close, stalking her like a cat does a mouse. She certainly felt like one, and she could taste the darkling hearing her pathetic heartbeat, about to be extinguished forever.
A new pugnacious mind appeared, ready for blood. Another midnighter, of course, but where? She scanned the horizon, the moon drifting slowly downwards past the blue night.
The darklings appeared, four, old and twisted, like wearing old halloween costumes, merrily disgusting.
Hornets zipped towards them, metal stings ready to burn. A hail of metal, named and engraved. That would hurt. This horizontal hailstorm plummeted towards the darklings, and a conflagration of blue flame leapt from them, consuming the horrible creatures, whose death-screams reached out to Melissa and tangled in her mind, a horrible thought that polluted the world, turning blue suddenly black.
… Cool.
March 24th, 2007 08:05
melissa would hace to be my favourate midnight yet as well as u Dess it was a massive blow to find out he was stuck in midnight and yeah depressing oh guys do u think we could break like a guisness world record for the longest ever forum thing??!!
March 24th, 2007 08:05
Hey, i didnt, see like, the last 5 posts, why does that always happen?
Also something interesting, for the people who say: ‘todays the 45th of february, well, if we divide that somehow, and subtract the remainder: 13 OMG’
apparently the human brain tries to look for clarity in random data (my favourite example of this is someone seeing peoples faces in Cinnabuns) , like the date, and there are quite a few ways to add or multiply the numbers up, so its not really the day the worlds going to end, its just your brain trying to make you think it is. and there are probably at least 100 days a year taht can be connected with 12 or 13
March 24th, 2007 08:09
Ok kay mabey not the ditital camera forum beat us by 13,507 crud!
March 24th, 2007 08:12
Yeah Ive started seeing 12 and 13s in every thing!
March 24th, 2007 08:19
for example, my last post was 903, 9+0+3 = 12
also, theres this thing called the equi-distant letter code, which basically means if you take every 2nd letter, or every 109th letter, or something completely random, the letters you get, spell stuff out.
For example, in Moby Dick, theres this but describing whaling lances etc. and the edlc says T.R.O.T.S.K.Y. who was this russian guy who was killed, WITH AN ICEPICK!!! (gross) Coincidence, I THINK NOT! ( wait, coincidence, I think so.) This also happens a lot in the bible and basically in any work thats long enough.
March 24th, 2007 11:37
yeah i heard that before. i love finding random data and telling my friends stuff like hey today times my age is a multiple of 13 (which its not. just using that as an example) and thank you for calling my talents fool.
ill try to come up with more.
March 25th, 2007 10:21
Wow you guys are killing my brain w/ the math, I would have never found THAT kind of random data!
And yeah nick, that whole Melissa bit is totally fool!
And Midnightmagic, maybe we COULD have the longest forum, I mean I believe its currently the longest one!
And yeah Whitewolf I see 12’s and 13’s in everything too, automatically(13!)!
Oh and please DO come up w/ more talents ImInLoveWithJonathan!
-And this is random but were any of the midnighter’s birthdays announced in the books? Just wondering!
March 25th, 2007 11:45
Nick, I love the Melissa thing. It is so cool. Whitewolf, I’ve been seeing 12’s and 13’s everywhere too. I’ll be reading pretty much anything and find myself counting the letters in words, but pretty much, I’m always looking for 12’s and 13’s.
Also, Demensiona, I don’t think they say any of the midnighters’ birthdays in the books. I’ll check later tonight.
March 26th, 2007 00:18
Accually its not the longest the longest forum I looked it up and the ditital camera club have 13000 odd posts and theres another one wit 64000 *GASP!*
March 26th, 2007 01:23
well maybe we’re the longest post about a book
random data; this is post 911 (unless some1 has sneaked in fast before i posted) which is the USA emergency number, which means soon i’ll be calling them because i’ll have a near-fatal emergency (ummm, in america… hey, maybe i could fall out of a plane on my way over)
random data is everywhere, unleash your inner paranoia!!
by the way, the clocks went back today, did they do that in america too? because some people think they do it at a different time.
March 26th, 2007 12:14
random data:
the fear of the number 13 is triskaidekaphobia (17 letters)
paraskavedekatriaphobia, is, specifically, the fear of friday the thirteenth (23 letters)
E Pluribus Unum
has thirteen letters
so does
Jack the Ripper
and Edgar Allen Poe
Fidel Castro was born on Friday the 13th
13 is scintillating
(where are you from nick?, if not america?
haha, *that dosn’t sound conceited*)
March 26th, 2007 12:20
nudge, nudge
wink, wink
know what I mean?
March 26th, 2007 15:59
Thanks for looking mistranlated nonelectrical ornimentation! Oh and Whitewolf, I thought Midnightmagic was refering solely to the longest forum on the WESTERBLOG.
Fawesome, 911 posts!, That’s telling scott that we need another book, it’s an EMERGENCY! And yes nick daylight savings started a while ago(sorry I don’t remember the exact date, I usually don’t keep track of time/dates).
And interesting elodie, fawesome random data!
March 27th, 2007 02:23
oops i meant korean kid not teacher. my bad. ew now were’re listening to some wierd music and hes singing it. SAVE ME!
March 27th, 2007 07:48
I’m english elodie.
(hahahaha monty python!)
caulrophobiac has 13 letters and means someone who is scared of a clown.
Here’s a question; for daylight saving time, do they miss out midnight to 1′oclock, or 11 to midnight?
what happens if they move the clocks back, when do they do that? which hour do we relive? or is their a special ‘limbo hour’?
How do they change the really big clocks (english example; big ben)?
March 27th, 2007 07:57
i always wondered how they changed the time on Big Ben. lol monty python. we’re watching that in history class on wednesday. love it! and OMG where the heck did my other flipping post go?!?!?! i did it right befor epost 916. grrrrrr stupid thinger. hate that.
March 27th, 2007 07:59
The blue time happens exactly at “Bixby midnight.” That is, twelve hours after the sun is right over Bixby. (Actually, the blue time sweeps across the town at about 1000 miles an hour, just as sun-up and sundown do.)
All the midnighters keep their time pieces set to this time frame—with a little help from Dess. The chapter headers in the book also use this frame, rather than “Dowdian time,” which is the modern system of approximated time zones.
This gets semi-explained somewhere in book 1.
March 27th, 2007 08:06
Here’s a bit more about time zones, which weren’t standardized in the US until 1918:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_zones#History
Until the 20th century most cities had their own time, set to actual noon over that city. Small towns usually set their clocks to the nearest big city or big observatory.
Dess carries on in that tradition. And the blue time, of course, doesn’t care about standardized zones. It always comes at “true midnight,” when the sun is at the point farthest away from Bixby.
March 27th, 2007 08:28
So does that mean the blue time would come in the middle of the day in Australia? Kind of anticlimatic if you ask me.
March 27th, 2007 08:46
No, it comes at local midnight. That is, the blue time moves across the world, just like the terminator line does. If you could move at 1,000 miles an hour, you could stay in the blue time forever. (Don’t try this at home.)
March 27th, 2007 14:28
Wow, staying in the blue time forever(sounds a little familiar)? I wonder if OTHER midnighters(some kind of speed demon) can use this fact to their advantage, in saving Jessica? Although I’m not completely sure how.
Oh and on the whole clock thing, doesn’t the world go by Big Ben? I think they use some kind of sun dial or something.
-And I definetely have caulrophobia nick , I’m suffering!
March 28th, 2007 00:10
cauldrophobia, hmmm
March 28th, 2007 02:54
Big ben’s chimes are broadcast live in tons of different countries, including China, on their radio (they also do it here, in England)
March 28th, 2007 03:09
and big ben is not a sundial.
March 28th, 2007 04:59
on the subject of the thought-grinder talent (post 877, talent 32) there is a sort of mental condition that makes you wnat to eat shiny things, its called pica (latin for magpies who steal shiny things). One person with Pica was found with BITS OF A BICYCLE in his stomach (yummy) and he was unaware of eating it.
So, someone with semi-pica would be a very cool midnighter, as he/she would have metal inside them, so darklings couldnt even come near them, or their touch would burn them. its not as cool as being made out of metal ( like in The Silver Child) but still pretty cool.
March 28th, 2007 08:57
SCOTT you need to make a nother book with jessica getting out with dess and rex teaming up. really sad great series.
March 28th, 2007 09:08
I can’t stop thinking about the series. You need to make a nother book. It would clear a lot of things up.
March 28th, 2007 17:46
Yep elodie, fear of clowns, that’s me! And nick I didn’t mean that Big Ben WAS a sundial but anyways, I love your addition to THOUGHT GRINDER! Pica’s TOTALLY fawesome! And I totally agree w/ you Matt, we need another book because I can’t stop think about MIDNIGHTERS too!(But I don’t think I really want to stop!)!
Oh and other random data:
Did you guys know that the following words have darkling numbers?:
- H E L P L E S S N E S S (12)
- A S S A S I N A T I O N (12)
-Interesting huh?
March 28th, 2007 23:16
that is interesting.
demensiona, i recognize your name from a book i once read, but i can’t quite put my finger on it.
what book is it from?
March 29th, 2007 01:49
oooo i want to eat shiny things! but wait. how do you eat a bicycle? is metal digestible? ew. and yeah demensiona, where is your name from? it sounds familiar to me too.
March 29th, 2007 06:03
REALLY? I’m not aware that my name’s from a book. I (THOUGHT/THINK I) just made my name up from the word D I M E N S I O N because as we all know Jessica’s stuck in a dimension(I just took out the first i and added an a). I don’t think I’ve got the name from a book, I mean DEMENSIONA sounds a little fantastical to me, and I’m not too keen on fantasy. Hmm, well if you guys come up w/ a book, I’ll search my memory and see if I’ve read it!
March 29th, 2007 09:27
hmm, i’ll keep an eye out.
maybe i was just reminded of Dess’s full first name: Desdemona.
which is interesting in itself.
Desdemona was the secret, cheating wife of Othello, in one of Shakespeare’s tales.
anyhow, i’ll see if i can recall that name from any books.
March 29th, 2007 10:05
Yeah you know what elodie, I was thinking of Desdemona too! Oh and interesting on the shakespeare bit, I’m not sure how that persona fits!
March 29th, 2007 10:21
First of all, I competely agree with you Matt that we definitely need another book, and I also can not stop thinking about Midnighters. My notebook that contains the written part of my version of the fourth book and my notes on midnighters hasn’t left my sight for the last three weeks or so. I’m always thinking about what should happen next, or about things that happened in the first three books. I’m even doing a project in history, where we have to create a government for a new island. Mine’s in the shape of a thirteen pointed star and all of the city/states are named after charaters in the books.
Also, just a brief elaboration on the Malificent Concealer’s powers. You know the part that mindcasters can’t detect them, just to elaborate on that, (I just came up with this about an hour ago, so bare with me.) Ok, so I was thinking that the mindcasters can’t detect them as being anything other then what form they’re in, so let’s say they’re in darkling form, then mindcasters will taste them as a darkling. I was thinking that the only time the mindcasters can taste them as something with a weird mixture of a darkling/slither/midnighter taste is when the Malificent Concealer is changing forms. This is also the time when a Maleficent Concealer is at it weakest, and the only time it can be destroyed. What do you think?
March 29th, 2007 10:29
I think Maleficent Concealer is fawesome, and among the best we’ve got!
March 30th, 2007 06:35
You write novels in a notebook, mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation? I used to, but it’s so hard to edit them that I got lazy and switched to typing them up on a computer. That way I don’t have to scribble something out every time I change a character’s name lol. I still write songs in notebooks, though.
March 31st, 2007 02:43
yeah when i write, its in notebooks, too. my parents dont apreciate me using up all the ink when i print it out. although, i do miss spell check. no one can ever understand my writing either.
March 31st, 2007 08:39
am i the only one not writing a book here?
March 31st, 2007 09:35
Yes.
March 31st, 2007 09:44
sure seems like it. but mine is not exactly midnighters related. i’ve been writing one for a while but when thats done i want to make my own midnighter-esque book.
March 31st, 2007 10:49
Yes, I write in notebooks, but only because I can carry a notebook to class with me, that way when my English teacher starts going off on one of her speaches that have nothing to do with what we are doing in the class, (She does this a lot.) I then have something to do*. I actually like writing on the computer more, but I find it to be easier to carry around a notebook. Then, when I’m done writing, I type it up on the computer.
Also, only one of the books I am writing right now is midnighter related. I am writing a few more that are not.
*It’s not like I don’t pay attention in class, but my teacher will go on forever about things that have nothing to do with what we are studing, so it’s good to have a notebook around to doodle or write in.
March 31st, 2007 14:18
Hey, anyone know any interesting legends about the Roanoke lost colony?
March 31st, 2007 19:00
Yeah I definetly write in notebooks(I’m a class doodler too) because ironically, I hate using computers. Yeah nick I think you are the only one not writing a book but I’M not writing about midnighters.
I’m still on the outline stage but I’m writing a book centered around the modern world of lucid dreaming. I have an have a half japanese / half caucasian female narrator(17) who after taking her father’s(neurologist) placebo sleeping pills, falls into intense lucid dreams in which the people in her dreams ironically have the control in her dreams,and she’s enabled to feel physical and mental pain. There’s a guy and his twin sister who make the narrator and 3 other people from the narrator’s school(one guy who’s deaf but can hear in dreams,one popular girl who’s nice in the dreams but while awake/ has no contact with the others because she doesn’t remember the dreams,and another girl who only speaks russian,(but speaks english in the dreams) and is a little overweight but she’s skinny as a pin in dreams), fall into dreaming at any given moment(dangerous) because they need their aide because they’re being experimented on and the drugs/and or procedures are killing them. So the thing is , the others have never seen these people and have no idea where and why the twins are being experimented on…..I still need to elaborate because this isn’t a complete summary but THERE, that’s what I’m working on.
Oh and sorry Alissa, I don’t know any legends.
March 31st, 2007 22:58
Well that makes me feel better-not (borat hahaha!). but as soon as i finish my exams, i’m going to write a book.
And just what is this ‘Roanoke lost colony’? i’ve read Artemis Fowl and the Lost Colony, but, Roanoke????
April 1st, 2007 00:46
yes you must elaborate on that one. it sounds very interesting. ooo ill go google it.
and mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, i do the same exact thing. my theology teacher teacher was like that doesnt look like notes, and im like yeah mabey thats cause their not. then he got mad at me. but he was like whatever its your own fault if you fail the class. (yeah like thas going to happen. i have a 98 average and he knows it.)
April 1st, 2007 00:49
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_of_Roanoke here is a link to the wikipedia thing on the colony. still trying to find stuff about legends. hope this helps.
April 1st, 2007 00:51
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/es/nc/roanoke_1 here is some stuff about disappearing settlers.
April 1st, 2007 00:54
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?s=d5045e7d124aa1563b448a24d3b3202a&t=310201 i didnt look at the whole message board but the first few posts are an overveiw on a play about it.
April 1st, 2007 01:04
i just read over the whole play synopsis thing. didnt give much insight and im not fully sure if it was true or purley fiction but it sounds very interesting.
April 1st, 2007 08:21
Nick: the Roanoke lost colony was the first British settlement in America. When the next colonists came from Britain three years later, all that was left of them was the word “Croatoan” carved into one of the fort posts. What I’m looking for is any legends about anything supernatural, magic, etc., in connection to it.
April 1st, 2007 09:00
That sounds cool… *swiftly consults wikipedia page*
Ok, weird things that could have been caused by darklings;
1 titanic. It sails across some coordinate where darklings live. An underwater darkling (with a narwhale-esque spear thingy) makes a hole in the side of the ship. It sinks.
2 Murder of the princes in the tower. in ye olde englande in the 1470’s Richard (soon to be king Richard III) wanted to be king, but the ex-king’s nephews were still alive. So he locked them up. Then they dissapeared. Richard was king. (then Henry VII killed him but anyway…) The common theory is that Richard had them killed. Shakespeare wrote a play about it. but what if a darkling ate them?
3 William Rufus’s murder. Once again, in ye olde Englande, in the 12th century, there was this king called William Rufus. He went hunting. He died. the theory is that it was an accident, that someone just shot an arrow, which bounced off a tree and killed him, or that rebels killed him. But what if a darkling ate him and his hunting party? (they kinda scapererd pretty quick coz they had probably killed the king)
April 1st, 2007 09:09
oops typo that shoud be scarpered in the 2nd last line
April 1st, 2007 16:26
Okay so im a bit late…. about a year to be exact, but HEY i just discover the wonderful world of scott w. during early febuary!!!
First of let me say wat i feel about blue noon, seeing how i just finished it like at 12:30 pm which was like an hour ago or so:
It made me MAD. well more like depressed. I guess because im not the type of person to just finish the book and more on, i kind of over think books and keep my mind on them for a few weeks after i have read the books. SPECIALLY depressing endings…
It was cools to see that you thought about the whole age difference that was to come, i wasnt sure as a read the first few sentences about what had happen to jess, that you would say it. Which made me even sadder.
I know they are just characters but i have a weird obsession and now i will think about poor jess for at least a good month. So now when im in precal and i fail my test becos there was NO 4th BOOK its going to be YOUR fault.
But its not fair!!!!! i want to cry. all i can think about is how unfair this is for jess, she tries to save the world and gets herself pretty much killed. AND there is no 4th book. Unfair. I really expected for you to say it would wear off…. So now im going to be thinking about my own alternative ending about how jess goes back to normal.
See this is what your making me do!!! obsess over fake people at 1 am in the morning!!!!!!! I hope you are please with yourself. With one word you could have changed this!!!!! With one more book you could make BILLIONS of people happy… we would all love you eternally…
i was so exasperated over the end. i def am not going to get sleep untill i form my own ending that makes jess go back to the regular time. At first i thought the secret our was gone forever, then i relized it was worse.
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH SCOTT W. FOR MY NEW OBSESSION.
April 1st, 2007 19:57
Hey Scott, when you wrote the Risen Empire were the names ‘Nara’ and ‘Rana’ just a coincidence, or did you do that on purpose?
April 1st, 2007 21:24
I noticed that too Alissa, and Rana is Latin for frog. Weird huh?
April 2nd, 2007 04:31
I always forget to post on these threads! I read this book nearly a year ago! I only vaguely remember it. Though I did like the joke-ish bit about The Catcher in the Rye. I remember I laughed really hard and showed it to my English teacher because I had read that book for class. Yeah.
April 2nd, 2007 04:50
wait what joke-ish bit about catcher in the rye? must have missed that one. and nick loving the history lesson caused by darklings. love it!!!!!! narwals are my favorite.
April 2nd, 2007 06:04
the jokish bit about catcher in the rye is the bit when rex goes back to get his books (and catcher in the rye) but attacks someone, and forgets it and has to go back again.
April 2nd, 2007 06:50
(im still obsess over a 4th book but since it looks like it wont be happening anytime soon..)
Rex called wat happened to jess a “temporal dependence” whats up with that. Temporal doesnt mean forever, meaning that she wont stay like that forever. So techinically this “temporal dependence” that she needs to stay in the blue time will end soon. BECOS ITS ONLY TEMPORAL!!!
thats the way i thought about it until i googled the word up and besides being used in temporaly it mean “pertaining to time” or something like that….
great looks like jess is stuck in the blue time till the 4th books comes out, or until i go bananas and my brain gets fried…
April 2nd, 2007 07:17
mmmmm, fried bananas. Anyway, what happens if jess ‘folds out of the air’ and someone’s standing right their?
so…
Jonathan is standing around, it turns midnight, Jess appears in the same spot as he is. They are siamese twins on their hands forever. Jess escapes the blue time and can fly w/ jonathan anytime.
kind of hard to explain to parents though
April 2nd, 2007 07:32
Haha yeah Rose, I don’t know if Scott will give Jessica a couple of years, or 300 years!(Hahah Uglies!!)! Oh and ironically I started the series in early February too, but of last year.
And um for the temporal dependence thing on pg.368, it said that,”But the flame-bringer had become something altogether different,a whole new kind of midnight creature. She wasn’t frozen during daylight….she simply wasn’t. Rex called it “temporal dependence.’”
-So that quote maybe adds a little permanence to the situation.But who knows…. SCOTT?!!
But yeah I’ve been really thinking about the epilogue. I mean why couldn’t it be that Jessica couldn’t go into the secret hour anyore and that she doesn’t remember ANYTHING(the others,darklings), then she would at LEAST live for the rest of the day(no problem w/ parents/beth/ or probably even Jonathan because I think he would rather have it this way). But the least Jessica couldv’e done was to leave her parents a note just saying that she’s leaving(but she doesn’t HAVE to get into great detail about the secret hour), instead of making her parents think that she’s dead!No offense, but maybe they’d have greater closure physically KNOWING that’s she’s dead.
oh and has anyone ever wondered who the people on the back covers were? I mean’s there’s five, but they don’t look like the midnighters.
April 2nd, 2007 11:10
Haha, Nick.
I like this idea.
Makes me laugh to think of Jessica and Jonathan “joined at the hand”
But, are you saying that when Jessica pops into midnight, if she and Jonathan are standing in the same spot, their hands will fuse?
Hmmm,
I don’t think I’m understanding.
But I think, if I have interpreted your statement right, you may have a point there.
But wouldn’t they just fall on each other if that were to happen?
And if they were joined at the hand I think they would just explode or rip apart after midnight was over ( . . . ow ).
April 2nd, 2007 11:13
Demensiona,
I always thought the people on the back cover were midnighters.
Hmmm, I’ll take a second look
AGONY!
I went to the bookstore this weekend and saw that they published Bluue Noon in paperback!
I have the first two in paperback, and I broke down and bought the third in hardback when it came out. That bugs the CRAP outta me!
GRRR.
Oh well
April 2nd, 2007 11:13
*Blue*
April 2nd, 2007 11:38
Demensiona,
I just took a look at the back covers, and I’m really not sure, I think they’re suppossed to be the midnighters, but they really don’t look much like them.
Also, a while back you asked if anyoen knew if the book mentioned the midnighters’ birthdays. Well, I finally got a chance to skim through the books, and all I could find was that Jessica is a Leo, but that’s pretty all I could find on their birthdays.
April 2nd, 2007 15:59
Yeah elodie, I had the same book problem w/ Midnighters AND Uglies!
And yeah mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, they don’t really look like the midnighters but I’m pretty sure that one of the guys on the back cover is Jonthan because that same person is on the front cover of Blue Noon.And thankyou SO much for the midnighter birthday news!
April 3rd, 2007 02:05
yeah i just went and looked at the back cover but theres onll one or twopeople that could even pass for girls so… mabey they’re just random people that look cool when its all dark- colorish. so im not sure. i guess its supposed to midnighters but they sure arent the bixby midnighters.
April 3rd, 2007 03:47
the people on the back of my english copy are the same as those on the front and i assume they are the midnighters and there are 5.
and what i meant was, yes, their hands would be fused together forever, but because they are now linked together, Jessica exists in both the blue time and daylight, as does Jonathan. So she escapes. and they can fly together. and scott writes another book…….
April 3rd, 2007 04:09
unless of course Jessica pulls Jonathan into a frozen in midnight potentialy forever state just like she is. although Jonathan might like that because then they wouldnt have to worry about the gigantic age difference thing later on.
April 3rd, 2007 07:25
Well if they’re going to do that, then they’d better hurry up!
There is five people on the back but maybe they’re just random people throughout the series like maybe the only girl I see is like constanza or Beth. But I don’t know I mean I KNOW one of the people on the back is jonathan but hmm…
April 4th, 2007 06:12
Oh and I’m feeling a little musical again so here’s a song that makes me think of the midnighter series kind of as a whole:
(Lyrics):
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/vanessacarlton/privateradio.html
(clip of song):
http://www.last.fm/music/Vanessa+Carlton/_/Private+Radio
April 4th, 2007 06:20
yes, jonathan and jessica both trapped in midnight would make a good book, because they can both fly together. then rex and melissa would try to get them out, and jonathan would be like, yeah, it would be cool to see my family again, but now i can fly forever. that would make a cool book. hint hint, Scott.
April 4th, 2007 10:35
That’s all fine and dandy for Jessica and Jonathan, but wouldn’t they miss the real world?
I suppose they wouldn’t mind watching decades go by if they’re together.
Hmmm, if Blue Noon would’ve ended that way, with Jessica AND Jonathan trapped, the series wouldn’t have *demanded* another installment to the midnighters.
Scott has to do something! He can’t just leave us here!
(Quick, stupid question for Nick; do the people across the pond know who Jamie Cullum or Franz Ferdinand is?)
April 4th, 2007 11:00
elodie, where are you from? ive never heard of them.
April 4th, 2007 12:51
She’s probably from the U.S. because I’ve heard of them too(My sister has Jamie Cullum’s cd)ImInloveWithJonathan, and I’m from california. Yeah I would have loved for Jonathan to be trapped w/ Jessica but that would be ironically too simple. But I love the idea!
April 5th, 2007 00:10
im from the US too (im from Philliy. oooOOOooo Jonathans’s home town
) but ive never heard of them. 
what songs have they sung? i might know the songs and not know its them.
April 5th, 2007 00:23
Jamie Cullum ????? but yes, i have heard of Franz Ferdinand, not that i like him or anything…
Americans should find this joke funny, or at least see why it is a joke (it isnt particularly funny);
One day, an american person adopted a little 8-year-old mexican boy, called Jose. He took him to a baseball match, and afterwards, asked him how he liked it. Jose said ‘Oh, it was great, and Americans are so polite! at the beginning, everyone stood up and asked me if i could see the pitch….’
and a joke for english people, (americans won’t get this one)
how to you get two whales in a car?
Drive up the M5
the point is there is a country called Wales next to England, and the M(otorway) 5 is the highway that goes to it from England. (it isnt very funny, but still)
April 5th, 2007 00:35
i got it and im an American. i figured M5 was a street or roadway of some sort. I still dont know who Jamie Cullum and Franz Ferdinand are. What do either of them sing?
April 5th, 2007 00:38
ok i looked them up on itunes and aparently i have heard of Franz Ferdinand. but not the other one.
April 5th, 2007 00:49
aparently this Jamie Cullum person is English, but ive never heard of him.
wikipedia website;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Cullum
April 5th, 2007 01:08
Oh my freakin’ goodness
I did not mean to spur a conversation, I just wanted to know if anyone over there liked those groups.
Nobody over here does, so I figured I would ask someone who knows, but apparently they are not popular over there either, so I’m alone.
(I’m sorry! I just wanted to know!)
This is a midnighters site!
Now let’s talk some midnighters.
magnetization magnetographs magnetometers magnetometric magnetopauses magnetosphere magnetostatic magnification magnificences magnificently magniloquence mailabilities mainstreaming
(M; the thirteenth letter of the alphabet)
April 5th, 2007 01:37
I’m studying ancient greek, and because it is inflected, i thought it would be a great language for tridecalogisms. (inflected is when you put endings onto the end of words, or it can be iffa you speaka like thissa)
‘nu’ is the 13th letter of the greek alphabet. (i don’t know how to type greek on this post, but Symbol, on microsoft word is greek. but beware, the letters are on slightly different spaces than they are to english keyboards.)
greek has 24 words for ‘the’ (in different cases) and you have to chant them to learn them.
Greek tridecalogism:epothanouthemen (’th’ is one letter) it means ‘we died’ (aorist tense, which is a bit like past tense, but not really, because its just we died, instead of we HAVE died)
if you want to see this in greek, go to microsoft word, select symbol in the font and type ‘hpoqanouqemen’ (greek keyboards are different)
linguistic word: subjunctive. everybody says ‘huh, what?’ its like a sort of maybe feeling on the word, but we do actually have a subjunctive in english. verbs in 3rd person singular have an ’s’ on the end, like;
he dieS
but if you say;
he would…
‘would’ has no ’s’ on the end, and is in the subjunctive. (and if you say ‘he would die’, then ‘die’ is in the conditional.) sorry, i just thought that is really cool, how people do’nt know about their own language, i certainly didnt know this until i started learning latin.
April 5th, 2007 03:59
oooo sounds very cool nick. what does that epothanouthemen word mean? or did you say and im just missing it?
April 5th, 2007 04:32
i did say, it means ‘we died’ (aorist tense)
April 5th, 2007 04:48
o ok i thought you th mean we died. i got it now. thanks for enduring my stupidity
April 5th, 2007 04:49
oops that was supposed to say you said th
April 5th, 2007 05:12
long time no post dess is assasanation not assassination? (13) and M the 13 letter of he alphabet cool
April 5th, 2007 05:29
no, theta is a greek letter. it looks like a circle w/ a horizontal line going through it
April 5th, 2007 09:29
is latin or greek phonetic?
because i cannot pronounce any of what you just wrote
i think it’s funny that phonetic isn’t phonetic
April 5th, 2007 11:46
nick said it was greek he was learning
April 5th, 2007 15:15
SCOTT, well how would i go about getting a book (the one i have in progress) edited and published? And how can i liek email or write you? PLease anouther book for Jess’s and Johnathan’s sake!
EVERYONE: I have written a song for the Midnighters Jess and Johnathan. So bear with me, it’s a little Rocky.
“Separated by a world, A moon, the Sun, Everything, Is their love doomed. And Flyboy sees the lightning which tore them apart in her eyes. She sees the gravity pulling at him, he can’t live resist no more, She haunts his dreams and his thoughts. She’s is the Blue Moon to him
April 5th, 2007 16:07
Whoa, a lot of info hmm..
Interesting jokes nick(ironically I only understood the english joke) and ancient Greek’s totally fool! Fawesome ImInLoveWithJonathan on the JONATHAN bit. Awesome trides Elodie!And Um whitewolf I believed I spelled ASSASINATION right because I typed the word on yahoo to make sure I spelled it right. And fawesome song Megan!
April 5th, 2007 21:31
cool song.
elodie, latin is very phonetic, but what i wrote there was greek, which can be sort of phonetic. in fact, the greek for voice is phone (but you say it phonay) so thats where phonetic probably comes from.
ancient greek for midnight is ‘mesos nux’
and in latin ‘media nox.’, but if you want to say at midnight it would be media nocte (with a long ‘a’ on the end of media)
French is minuit.
my etymological (12 letters) dictionary does not mention midnight.
do any of you know what it is in Spanish or something?
April 5th, 2007 21:32
and now the times are GMT, not Australian.
April 5th, 2007 22:20
and now the times are Australian again. Why does it keep changing?
April 6th, 2007 00:00
I’m taking spanish and midnight in spanish is Medianoche.
April 6th, 2007 00:02
and i didnt know the times were changing interesting. love the song Megan. I hope it turns out good.
April 6th, 2007 00:14
nearly…
April 6th, 2007 00:15
1,000…..
April 6th, 2007 00:16
Cool, we’ve reached 1,000 posts.
Thats some dedication. Now Scott will HAVE to write a sequel. (Hint Hint)
April 6th, 2007 08:29
i suppose we aren’t being blunt enough. We would like very much if there was some sort of continuation to the series Scott. That would make us very, VERY happy. and forget Alloy. write another one anyway. there’s always loop holes. what parts to the story do they own? just spell something differently or i dont know something. we will die if there is no more midnighters!!!!!!!!!!!
April 6th, 2007 09:18
Dang, you guys must be on the oppostite time of me.
One school day, and you guys have written 11 posts, already.
You beat me to it on the 1,000 posts, Nick.
German midnight is mitternacht
(I am actually taking french, but Nick beat me to the french midnight, too)
Italian is mezzanotte.
hmmm, can’t seem to find one with 12 or 13 letters.
April 6th, 2007 09:21
منتصف الليل
Arabic for midnight
. . . you tell me how many letters
April 6th, 2007 09:27
sort of looks like 11 but i dont know where one character ends and the other starts
April 6th, 2007 09:30
midnight is norwegian- midnatt
midnight in russian- полночь
midnight in dutch- Middernacht
midnight in portugese- meia-noite
April 6th, 2007 09:39
cool!!
umm, how did you type in Arabic, Elodie? i want to see if i can do it for Greek.
We have Midnight in 12 languages (including English)!!
April 6th, 2007 09:41
真夜中 in Japanese
午夜 in chinese
… thank you freetranslation.com
April 6th, 2007 10:51
ermm nick it came up as square blocks. thats why i didnt try to post it in chinese or japanese. it came up as blocks on mine too.
April 6th, 2007 12:37
I’m taking Spanish too ImInLoveWithJonathan, YaY, my last year!! And I agree with you nick, that we’ve made a fine proposition, if people can trade a thousand souls, why can’t we trade a thousand posts of dedication for another book! And fawesome languages guys, (the arabic one looks really cool elodie)! I’m guessing copy and paste? Anyways that’s totally fool!
April 6th, 2007 13:34
Google does everyhting but wash the dishes. (That’s where I got the Arabic script)
I feel like we aren’t talking enough midnighters.
Someone give me a condensed explanation of the rips. I really didn’t understand when I read it. I mostly read for plot movement, and I only have a vague understanding of this concept.
April 7th, 2007 02:28
aaah, now i can post in greek
this is greek = θις ις γρεεκ
or actually in greek: Ελλαδα εστιν both words should have little apostrophe things at the front, but looking like backward c’s, because the vowels need a smooth breathing on them.
okay, this is how to do it (it doesnt work if you copy it from word): go to wikipedia, (or other such sites) and search for the alphabet you want. Copy it letter by letter into your post.
April 7th, 2007 03:09
so anyway, midnight in greek looks like this:
μεσος νυξ.
April 7th, 2007 06:19
haha elodie, we talk about anything and EVERTHING, haha. But hmm, something pertaining to midnighters:
-I haven’t heard anything on casting for the midnighters show but it IS airing sometime this year(IMDB told me so), and I don’t know a channel. Who do you guys think should be casted as the midnighters?
Jessica-Danielle Panabaker
Jonathan-?
Melissa-?
Rex-?
Dess-?
-And other characters, you guys can fill in the blanks.
-As for the rips, I’m not too sure/Dess was killing my brain w/ the geostationary.hmm..
-And fawesome on the greek nick!
April 7th, 2007 06:59
i think the rips were where daylighters could enter the blue time (at midnight), so they were more like caves than rips. also fire can burn even if a flamebringer is not ’supporting’ it they only need to start it.
Who is this Danielle Panabaker of which you speak (or type). Wouldnt they have already cast the tv show by now if its coming out this year? and probably filmed most of it too.
April 7th, 2007 07:29
i think they should use amy bruckner for beth. she seems perfect little sister material.
April 7th, 2007 07:30
and i could have sworn scott said it was the wb or cw or something with letters like that for the show’s channel.
April 7th, 2007 07:35
oooo guess what! i just got a beta fish. her name is Dess and my goldfish’s name is rex. i was going to naem him jonathan but he looks more like a rex. im going to pictures on my website later. obsessed? who me? nah.
April 7th, 2007 08:46
Wow….i just read all the 1018 comments and wow it really gets you thinking….but still going back to comment 510 Jessicas last name might indicate the flame bringer, or the day going into the blue time….. all of it was very long and i think if we can find Alloyz website we can start a petition to Alloy asking to allow scott to make up to 13 books (no not really but it would be neat!) and about the movie…..i would get really mad if they ruined it!
April 7th, 2007 08:54
Today at 9/8 central Midnighters premiers on TV!!!! cant wait! on EFT!!!
April 7th, 2007 08:57
say what?!?!?! no way! ur kiddnig me. not its not. scott would have told us.
April 7th, 2007 09:00
hmmm, a petition sounds like a good idea, but the last series that was 13 books i.e. a series of unfortunate events, was terrible. it started off ok, but then it got repetitive and boring, using the same style over and over. Of course, a lot of people kept reading to find out about baudelaire parents etc.
so what i’m saying is yes, more books, but don’t decide beforehand that youre going to write 13, coz if you run out of ideas at, say, number 7, then you’ll keep on writing 6 not-so-great books. So write more, Scott, but not too many. Oh, and keep writing Extras too.
April 7th, 2007 09:03
aah, if only i was in America then i would watch it. I hope they didnt make everyone in their 20’s…
and theyre making a MOVIE???
April 7th, 2007 09:19
Sorry to tell u Jonathan-lover but yea its premiering tonight at 9!!!!! and no i dont think its a movie its a series…..and yea i wuz just kidin wit the 13 books
and sorry to break it to you all but last time i cheked they had already said something bout it in like comment 746 or something
the trailer kinda thing url is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUg0wnCH92M&mode=related&search=
April 7th, 2007 09:20
oh oops i made a mistake…it comes out tommorrow not today! april 7 not 6th so you all still have a day!
April 7th, 2007 09:25
oh and btw watever happened to korbe and rob??? dey stopped taking aroun the six hundreds!!!
April 7th, 2007 09:27
that youtube thing doesnt really look like a trailer, but anyway… i wish i could see it… well, Dr. Who started last week, so i guess that makes it about even.
April 7th, 2007 09:44
OK, on the topic of the midnighters TV show, I think Scott would have said something. Wouldn’t he have? Also, I found that same trailer on utube over a month ago, so if there is a show, it has probably aired a while back, or I missed the part where it said the air date. I guess I’ll check tomorrow night and see.
April 7th, 2007 10:16
no i cheked on EFT website…its airing tommorrow!
April 7th, 2007 10:24
By the way, what’s EFT? I mean I know it’s a television channel, but I’ve never heard of it.
April 7th, 2007 10:28
Never mind.
April 7th, 2007 11:48
Well whatever channel eft is, I don’t have it/ and I have like all the channels(even the youtube channel). And yeah nick, good point on casting, hmm. Well I WOULD think that Scott would’ve known before us. But Hmm.. I don’t know, I’m confused!!
April 7th, 2007 13:18
I’m completely confused too. First of all, I guessed the EFT had something to do with CW since that was the channel that Scott said Midnighters would be on if it was turned into a show, so I looked in the cable guide and there is nothing listed for tomorrow night about midnighters. Second of all, I looked it up on the internet, and I couldn’t find anything at all that said it was coming out tomorrow. In fact, there’s no more information then what Scott has mentioned in his previous posts. So I’m confused. Does anyone have more information?
April 7th, 2007 13:32
Hey, everyone.
The EFT trailer is a hoax. Which is somewhat amusing, but there ain’t no show.
“no i cheked on EFT website…its airing tommorrow!”
Heh. Is this sort of hoax flattering? Discuss.
April 7th, 2007 13:51
Thank you Scott. I kind of guessed that it wasn’t real. I mean even with your approaching deadline, (By the way, good luck with that) I was guessing that you would remember to tell us if the show was coming out. Thanks again for confirming that it wasn’t real for us.
April 7th, 2007 14:09
I suppose a hypothetical television series is somewhat flattering, but since it was posted on a hoax gossip website about celebrities (at least that’s what I got out of the front page) it isn’t so.
A television series would ruin midnighters.
It would be an absolute joke. An insult to all things midnighters. The thought is repulsive.
Yet if a series came out, I would watch it, but it would be cheesy:
“Oh, another Thursday night at 7/8 PM central, so I’m going to sit down in front of my idiot box with a bag of popcorn and see who turns into a halfling this week!”
It would be utterly and completely idiotic.
but I would watch it.
midnighters deserves more than that!
an annual life limited to one hour a week, treated either as a soap opera or teeney bopper television is so below the series’s worth.
I could deal with a movie. In fact I would thoroughly enjoy a midnighters movie, just as I anticipate Uglies. Films are in higher regard than telelvision. Films can be artistic and are scored beautifully, while television is a joke.
Don’t let ‘em do it, Scott!
April 7th, 2007 14:37
Yeah I would much rather have a movie, because there’s only so much that PRODUCERS can stretch in a show. But there IS a show though. Oh and thanks Scott, a hoax IS flattering, but it would of saved me hours from looking through ALL MY FREAKING CHANNELS and FRANTICALLY LOOKING THROUGH THE INTERNET!But I guess that’s dedication for you, hahaha!
April 7th, 2007 23:05
so, wait, was Guy making the hoax, or just fooled by it?
and Scott, have you finished your deadline yet? was that a celebratory post, or a ‘aaaaaaaargh the strain is too much, i need a distraction’-type post?
and i’ve never heard of eft. hey, maybe it stands for electronic ferret television…
April 7th, 2007 23:33
okay, now i’m even more confused; did Scott make the hoax?
April 8th, 2007 01:36
no i dont think that scott made it. he said it was flattering for them to make a hoax about there being a tv show on it. and remember his enormously long post about the tv show? he was tricked too. i still have random thoughts about the wierd trupets. and guy i knew scott would have told us if it was real. oooooo electronic ferret television. sounds fun. or maybe its extraordinary formularizing thoroughbreds.
April 8th, 2007 04:44
o and nick he still has a liitle less than two days until his deadline is up. he was probably just doing something other than pooring himself into extras for a few min. its better than dancing with a pot on your head all the while still writing extras. my friends, i believe scott has cracked. (see last blog scott put up. or should i say justine put up for him. justine said something in the comments about scott dancing with a pot on his head.)
April 8th, 2007 07:28
But there IS a midnighters show unless imdb’s lying(which like never happens):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0495154/
-Now I know it doesn’t really say anything but there should be a show later on this year on some kind of local channel.
April 8th, 2007 07:51
Oh and this has nothing to do w/ midnighters , but has anyone read EVOLUTION’S DARLING, Scott? If so, can you PLEASE tell me that Darling was ALWAYS a male, because I’m getting a little freaked out. Man Scott what reading level is this novel? I’m serious, this is the first novel that I’ve had to sit down w/ a dictionary cracked open.Ugh I’m just kind of stuck where I am right now. Ugh I guess I’m just going to have to retire soon due to lack of understanding, and I hate doing that. But I love the quotes I’ve read so far, they’re totally fawesome!
-Now on a midnighters note,um, are we dried out of talents because I think I’m getting there, hmmm…
April 8th, 2007 07:56
yeah im about brain dead trying to come up with more. i think weve come up with every sensible talent out there.
April 8th, 2007 08:05
maybe imdb was confused by the hoax too. although scott said something about the cw so maybe there will be a show.
April 8th, 2007 08:06
because cant anyone tell imdb about stuff comming to be such as movies and shows? im not sure but i thought you could.
April 8th, 2007 17:14
Yeah, I think we’ve pretty buch come up with every sensible talent. I mean I’ve been coming up with more details on the talents that we have already come up with, but I can’t really think of anymore.
Also, I think what Scott meant was that the EFT thing about a show coming out on the 7th was a hoax, not the midnighters CW show. Maybe Scott will be able to tell us after his deadline has pasted.
April 9th, 2007 07:01
o and another thing i just remembered instead of maleficent decever or whatever that name we came up with was for the person that could change their shape how about just calling it a changling or something like that? its alot simpler
April 9th, 2007 08:00
no i dint come up with it i wuz just fooled by it! stupid eft got me kinda exited!
April 9th, 2007 10:00
thats cool. a midnighters movie would be fexcelent though. i would like a movie/ movies better than a show. a show would just be kinda… over kill? expecially if they were 20. eww not fool. (i just finished the last days. i like talking like zahler.
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April 9th, 2007 15:20
Well ImInLoveWithJonathan, the only problem about changing maleficient concealer’s name is that we already have a shape-shifter/changling, but I don’t know. And I would definetly prefer a movie too, because a movie is either good or bad. A show can carry UNNECESSARY ALTERATIONS, and has the potential to not be bad, but FORRIBLE!
And don’t worry Guy, some local channel will get back at EFT!!
And hey I agree w/ you mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation but if it’s on the CW, what show are they going to boot off this year? I’m thinking that midnighters would be on either Sunday or Thursday because some shows aren’t doing too well but I’m not sure, hmm..
April 9th, 2007 23:19
o darn it i though the maleficent conceler was the changling. i was going through the talents we already made up and trying to adapt them last night. darn it. i thought it was one talent. wait i thought the maleficent conceler one was the one that could change shape.
April 9th, 2007 23:21
wow i cant even understand what i was trying to say there. i meant to put thought not though.
April 10th, 2007 00:07
remind me, what does ‘cw’ stand for? its a TV channel, right?
and how about a talent where you can either possess darklings and slithers, or stiffs and animals. or where you can walk through walls and stuff.
April 10th, 2007 02:41
im not sure actually. does it stand for anything? and i made up a talent about controling stiffs. i forget if we ever came up with a name for it though
April 10th, 2007 02:42
but yes nick it is a tv channel.
April 10th, 2007 05:13
guys major breakthrough! i was rereading the comments and look at this comment scott put:
scott
February 13th, 2007 13:05 707
“Astonishingly misunderstood compatibility.”
Yes, that’s fexcellent.
Sorry I haven’t posted on this thread for about four zillion comments, but you all seem to be getting along pretty well without me. Yes, there is an issue with Midnighters, which is that I don’t own all the rights. A company called Alloy (Gossip Girl, The Clique, etc.) has half of the “franchise,” which makes me less inclined to continue the series.
But perhaps one day!
See you guys around, and thanks for keeping this thread stirring. I read ALL comments, even though I mostly lurk.
Ciao for now.
less inclined! does that mean its still possible for him to write more? i took that as they wouldn’t let him but… oooOOOooo maybe there still is a chance for us! i’m happy now
April 10th, 2007 05:15
scott can you define less inclined in this context for us? does this mean they won’t let you or you don’t want to? and if you don’t want to… WHY NOT?!?!?!
April 10th, 2007 06:32
hmmmm i think it means taht either he won’t fully own the book, or he is not allowed to write another, unless they ‘commision’ one. However, every stupid rule has a loophole, so, perhaps ‘Scott Northerfeld’ should write a fourth (and fifth and sixth…) midnighters book, so Alloy doesnt own the rights to it too. isnt it weird that alloys stop darklings, and Alloy is stopping Scott from writing another. after the EFT hoax i’m feeling particularly paranoid…
April 10th, 2007 07:04
he should spell bixby wrong or something really obscure that only the super obsessed fans will catch. where there’s a rule.. there’s a loophole.
April 10th, 2007 07:08
lol thats really funny mabye the darklings have figured out how to posess people and are forcing the people at alloy to make sure scott doesnt write any more midnighters books
April 10th, 2007 07:23
no what i meant was more: ’scott is a darkling, alloys are thwarting his every move.’ but wouldnt the darklings want to have books written about them so that more people would try to communicate with them like the grayfoots did which helped the darklings coz they could make a halfling.
April 10th, 2007 08:21
yeah i figured that. but that would be making us, the crazyed fan-people, the slithers. and i guess so but the place for making halfling was kinda defiled but maybe now that midnight is everywhere they can make them other places. oooOOOooo scary making.
April 10th, 2007 10:33
Ok, let me explain the Malifecent Concealer power again. The malifecent Concealer can change shape, but they do not just change shape. They are on the darklings side. They are completely against other midnighters, and they age like darklings after a certain age (this is something new I came up with, what do you think? Also, my maleficent concealer stopped aging after age eight. She’s only twelve, but she’s been alive for 104 years!)
Also, the maleficent concealer would have the same fears of alloys and new metals as the darklings do, so even in human form they are pretty much Rex in the third book, except they have no control over their darkling side, because their darkling side is their only side.
Maleficent Concealer is one of the most powerful powers, and they can only be killed when they are changing form. I hope this clears a little bit of the confusion on the maleficent concealer power up.
Also, I have no idea what CW stands for, but it is a TV channel.
There has to be some kind of loop hole some where, but Scott will have to make sure he is careful if he decides to do something like that.
April 10th, 2007 11:08
Hey slithers! No I’m just kidding, hey guys!
I was told that the “C” in the CW stands for the CBS corporation, which is the owner of the channel UPN. The “W” stands for Warner bros.
-Do you guys follow? Because I had to read that over a couple of times.
Oh and when scott said that he would be less inclined, I thought that he meant that because alloy has all of these restrictions and control, that he would be less willing to continue the series. Someone please tell me I’m wrong!
-Mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, Maleficient concealer couldn’t be more fawesome!
Oh, and this is random, but was Ada Lovelace, the doll, used as a weapon because I forget. If so, I think I have a pretty fawesome midnighter talent, for the younger midnighters, haha!
April 10th, 2007 11:18
I don’t think Ada Lovelace was ever used as a weapon.
Also, I’m so happy, my fourth midnighters book is now 42 hand written pages (front and back). I’ve now advanced from a midnighters notebook to a midnighters three ring binder!
April 10th, 2007 14:07
okay im still obsess over the fact that there should be a 4th book.
But to make my point more clear, other than the fact that we would all love you very much, would be grateful, would die of impatientness, and would squeel with joy when it would come out.
Points To Why This Wonderful Author (see doesnt that make you want to please us?) Should make a 4th for Midnighters:
1) Does beth find the poeple who know about the blue time?
2) How would johnathan be able to quite school? runaway? pretend he’s dead? im not sure he could just say “Dad bye, im taking your car, see you never.”
2) How WOULD they all travel? Would Jess be able to use her ability to make the car work? If Johnathan and Jess traveled flying and dess flew with them, and then came back to were they left the car, then it makes it a very long process.
3) Just like Dess said, most of the time the darklings dont eat because they are like lions. They have to sleep and stuff. Well, Wouldnt jess get tired and want to sleep eventually breaking Johnathan’s plan for his hour?
4) Where would they get a car to travel from?
5) Does Jessica pop or FOLD out of the same spot she stood on last? Can she will herself to appear wherever she wants?
6) How would they know the border of the blue time?
—> VERY IMPORTANT REASON **7) If Jessica passed thru the border, would she die? Would it be like a glass cage? Would she be back to normal time? Stuck being normal were the blue time doesnt reach, and stuck in midnight where there IS a blue time?
9) What are some other powers that midnighters have?
10) What about dess?
11) What about rex? is he better?
12) Could jessica eat frozen time food?
13) What about not being frozen in time?? Jess i mean, she just FOLDS out… weird.
14) well.. i cant think of a fourteenth reason, but i think 13 reasons are good.
April 10th, 2007 19:32
guys, you can’t force a genius… (flattery ALWAYS works! ha-ha-ha)
April 11th, 2007 08:33
o scott! please wright another book for us. if you don’t we will come up with more confusing questions that become even more complex. and besides WE WILL ALL DIE WITHOUT THE MIDNIGHTERS!! o and side note, i added that dess was a character in the midnighters on the wikipedia site for desdemona. but the link for the midnighters takes you to some band not the book.
April 11th, 2007 12:59
Man, too bad for Ada Lovelace, but anyway, I want a fourth book!!!!!!Please!?!
I wish midnighters was under the same company as Uglies,because I would think that there would be a book by now! I mean ugh! I wish Scott was secretly working on another book, and one day he’d just throw it at us like on Samhain !
I mean I probably have like a billion and 1 questions to add to that open ended list like:
(14).Is Jessica like an android now, does she still have human properties ,because if not she’ll die if she ever gets out of the dimension.
(15). Will Jessica stay in the dimension for another 300 years and say hi to Tally Youngblood(uglies)?
(16). Is Rex on a killing spree?
(17).Would Beth be like 19 in what would be another book?Is she sane, does she look more like Jessica, what’s she doing?Is she still w/ Cassie? Does she hang w/ Dess/Rex?Is she now a secret hour expert?
(18).Will any new love triangles create?(Is M and R/Jand J still together? Or has anything shifted/moved on?)?
(19).Would Constanza reappear?
(20).What’s w/ the darklings, are the midighters going to have to help slay giant worms(TLD)now?
(21). Are both of Jessica’s Parents alive and healthy?Do they hold a grudge against jonathan?Are they still married?Did they move back to Chicago?
(22).Will new/other midnighters steal from stores and play pranks?
(23).What was w/ the water?
(24.)What happened to Jonathan’s mom, is she still alive?
The questions are endless!!
April 12th, 2007 00:17
‘Will Jessica stay in the dimension for another 300 years and say hi to Tally Youngblood(uglies)?’ but how could she, she’s still stuck in midnight… unless Tally is a midnight, or the specials figure out how to free her…
a better book would be Jessica waiting for millions of years, until she somehow escapes due to technology, and then she’s in the Risen Empire (she could either be nara oxham, rana harter, or katherie hobbes. (doesnt that make you think of Calvin and Hobbes) That would be an interesting book… Especiallly if it was Rex who really invented the symbiant not to save his sister, but to get over his darklingness, and he’s the emperor…
April 12th, 2007 05:50
(24.)What happened to Jonathan’s mom, is she still alive?
i think it said she left jonmathan’s dad but i didnt really say what ever happened to her. scott! what happened to jonathan’s mom? thats a good question. and i think the waterthing was just comic relief. not really pertaining to anything important in the story just something funny. but i could be wrong.
April 12th, 2007 06:59
who was it that was saying something about the roanoke lost colony? im reading a book right now that says stuff about that in it. theres something about the work “croatin” (that might not be how you spell it though) its called blue bloods. its about vampires and it all relates to the colonies in roanoke and with the mayflower. its really good. im almost done it right now. if you want to know, its called blue bloods by melissa de la cruz
April 12th, 2007 07:50
(25) what about the other midnighter’s parents? do they figure anything out? does beth tell jessica’s parents about midnight? what happened to rex’s mom… she was never mentioned. Maybe melissa could ‘repair’ Rex’s dad from craziness, coz now he’s half darkling he wouldnt be afraid of him and the spiders. does it even mention jonathan’s parents? or dess’s? or melissa’s?
April 12th, 2007 11:30
Wait a minute, the Risen Empire takes place millions years later? I mean, that’s after Uglies. Whoa, so it goes Midnighters,Peeps/ Last Days, Uglies, Risen Empire?That’s fool… Okay that’s it, I’m buying the Risen Empire and the Killing of worlds, it’s settled.
Yeah ImInLoveWithJonathan, I think you’re right w/ the water.Maybe it too, was a simple diversion used in order to intensify the irony of Epilogue.
Oh and nick, I don’t think that Melissa/Rex would really want to fix Rex’s dad under the the circumstances of the past. Plus, isn’t Rex’s dad like brain dead now? Um Jonathan and Dess’s parent’s were briefly mentioned, Melissa’s barely, but I think Scott did that on purpose. Like in a way saying that again the midnighters hence Jessica are just strangers living in their parent’s houses.
Could you guys imagine if Melissa’s parents,Dess’s dad, Rex’s Dad, and Jonathan’s MOM knew/ had known that they were midnighters? What would that be like?Hmmm.. I don’t know, but maybe I doubt that that’s the case.But it doesn’t stop me from wondering.
And what about when Melissa and Rex were little and they always tried to find what’s at the end of, was it a lightening bolt? I never quite understood that part.
And remember in the Secret hour(book), when the midnighters were in the snake pit and trying to decipher Jessica’s talent, why hadn’t he heard of the flame-bringer before, why hadn’t Melissa tasted it?Was this some kind of talent that Maddy created, if that’s possible?Is there only ONE flame-Bringer?
April 12th, 2007 12:16
Oh and another thing, you guys HAVE to read Jessica’s horoscope, it’s almost scary!:
Sun in LEO – ruled by the Sun – Planet of Leadership
Element: Fire
Color: Golden yellow and Orange
Gem: Ruby
Metal: Gold
Jul. 23-Aug.22
You are a born leader with a strong need for recognition. This sign is ruled by the Sun and as such the limelight is a natural state of being for you, even if this trait manifests simply as being recognized and applauded in some way for a particular talent or ability.
You have to read the rest!:
http://www.skyviewzone.com/sunsigns2/leo2.htm
April 12th, 2007 12:50
Ok, that is slightly scary. (Ok, more then slightly) I wonder if Scott meant for it to be that way or something.
Quick question that has nothing to do with midnighters: Does anybody else have standerdized testing this week? Or coming up? Just wondering. Also, does anyone else find it as annoying as I do?
April 12th, 2007 17:23
Nick: I think Melissa’s parents weren’t mentioned because there wasn’t much to say. She’s a mindcaster, so basically her parents are her personal slaves. Remember at the end of Blue Noon, it mentioned that Rex had new rules about mindcasting stiffs, and Melissa’s parents were starting to ask where her car was.
Up until that point I figure she rpogrammed them to let her do whatever she wanted.
April 13th, 2007 04:13
ummm… yes… horoscopes are always scientifically accurate… (NOT!!!) but interesting… Do you think Scott did this on purpose?
and what i meant was, now that melissa is more in control of her powers, she could make rex’s dad sane again, but also not as evil… then, in the fourth book, he could team up with everyone elses parents, and go off looking for their children, who have to save them from darklings, coz somehow they go into a rift or something… (oops, there i go again… pity Scott doesnt WRITE ANOTHER ONE)
April 13th, 2007 06:22
yeah scott. we’ve given you more than enough ideas to go off of to make about, o i dont kno, enough midnighters books to last us our life times! come on one more. thats all i ak of you (until i finish midnighters 4 of course. then we’ll beg for mignighters 5. and so on and so forth)
April 13th, 2007 11:01
You know what ImInLoveWithJonathan, I would just be happy w/ ONE book.(but I sure don’t mind others). I mean, I would rather have a book(s) than a show.
And mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I actually like reading the passages on standardize testing, but I hate the math portion. I’m so far from being from a polymath that it’s not even funny!
And horoscopes are just for fun! Just like Astrology(made up of false theories).Oh and nick,got it, sanity!
And I totally agree w/ you Alissa, mindcasters are supposed to be pretty much self- reserved, in the parent sense.
April 13th, 2007 11:14
Isn’t this date interesting?
“p.211 next day (Thurs., Sept. 11) Jess ungrounded, kisses Jonathan on top of Pegasus sign.”
And I don’t really remember/understand this part:
“p.302 two midnights later (midnight of Sun., Sept. 14) right after midnight time, Melissa picks up on human thought threat to Jessica.”
And Jessica BURNED Rex back into human form?:
“p.248 next day (Fri. Sept 26) Rex kidnapped, changed into darkling, Anathea released but dies, Jessica burns Rex back into human form.”
And I didn’t know that Jessica had been in the dimension for 2 WEEKS already!:
“p.336 two weeks later (mid-Nov.) Beth taken by midnighters to remains of rip, meets Jessica.”
Interesting Chronology Scott!!
April 14th, 2007 06:38
wait so the misnighters series take place over the course of about 2 months? i thought it was longer.
April 14th, 2007 06:41
o and i have come to the conclusion that i am being attacked by darklings in my sleep. i wake up every morning with more random scratches all over my arm. it cant be my dog(if she jumped on me during the night she would kill me shes so fat) the only LOGICAL explination would be darklings i mean it couldn’t be me doing it to myself(i mean really)
jk. i dont really think darklings are attacking me. but it could happen. 
April 14th, 2007 08:46
Oh k My spelling is so bad
Scott if your ever on you codent give me some writing tips im wrighting a book at the moment but I keep wanting it to be like perfect and starting it over again 
April 14th, 2007 11:32
Oh my gosh Scratches, ImInLoveWithJonathan! Well I don’t really want to conflict w/ anyone’s beliefs, but there was a case like that on that show Montel/Sylvia Brown, and this guy was like wipped or something in like his past life or something and he had slashes on his back, arms, and legs. It’s YOUR subconscience doing it, but you’re not literally cutting yourself, the mind is a crazy thing(or is it memory).You probably have horrible dreams when this happens. Um I think she said like go to sleep w/ a night light(white candle/surround yourself w/ the white light) or something like that.And you’re like supposed to say like leave all my traumas in the past , so they don’t follow you in this life or something.I know I might sound crazy , but the guy said it worked. So you’ll be okay ImInLoveWithJonathan.
Oh and Whitewolf, I have the same problem w/ writing books, I’m such a perfectionist. A good tip is to start writing your book out of order/what ever comes to mind. And also become familiar w/ author’s writing style/tactics, that’s were I get my vocabulary from!
April 15th, 2007 01:32
wow i might try that. going for supernatural reasons is more fun than “you probably hit your arm on your shelf” i wonder if that will actually work. hmmmmm might have to try that. ill let you know. thanks.
April 15th, 2007 01:35
and i love the concept of past lives. they say that when you have deja vu, its actually your past life and your current life over lapping. thats so cool. and depending on how you acted (doing your darma and getting good karma) in your life you are reborn as one step closer to Nirvana. and when you reach the state of being a brahmin- the highest state of life (i think thats what it was called) you are reborn into nirvana and your life is complete
April 15th, 2007 07:45
Yeah I love the whole past lives concept too. Like most of your fears, supposely in this life, are fears that you had in you’re past lives or those things were like a result of your death.And I saw this really interesting case where this little girl went to this bridge and she said that she died there. And it was true, she did drown from falling off that bridge, and her imaginary friend was her sister from that past life. Crazy huh!
Hey do any of you guys lucid dream? I heard its freaking fawesome!
Oh and hmm, I can’t really think of anything midnighters related.But if/WHEN there’s another book(s), I’ll talk forever!!
April 15th, 2007 08:43
whats lucid dreaming? isnt that where its really realistic? i do that all the time. (if thats what lucid dreaming is anyway)
April 15th, 2007 08:45
and wait minor confusion- acording to that past life thing, is my subconscious self making me scratch myself? thats what i thought you meant but i wasnt entirely sure
April 15th, 2007 10:55
Possibility of the scratches thing: there’s something called sympathetic injury, where what happens to one person (or occasionally animal) also happens to someone they have an unusually strong connection to. I always used to get cuts on my hands, and had no clue where they came from, but it turned out my best friend had exactly the same cuts, and I got them from her. And it can happen between a person and an animal too, especially if the human is psychically controlling the actions of the animal.
April 15th, 2007 15:25
Wow Alissa, I never heard of that, that’s interesting! Yeah ImInLoveWithJonathan, Lucid dreaming is when well, you have control of/in your dreams. What you want happens, and you can’t be harmed. Oh and what I meant was that like you’re like remembering/or you think that you still have scratches but you’re not physically carving your nails into your skin, but really I’m the wrong person to really ask about this kind of stuff. But I don’t know, this sympathetic injury sounds about right, hmm.
You know, I wish I could go into the secret hour, I’m so bored in my dreams that I’d rather be up for an extra hour. I haven’t had a nightmare in like seven years.Hmm, I wonder why?
April 16th, 2007 03:53
i dont get nighmares (much) the only nightmares i ever get are these two reacurring dreams. i get them around the same time too. side note- you have to go see disterbia! it was the best movie ive seen in a while. it was really scary too. we were screaming the whole time (well not the whole time but pretty uch the whole end of the movie.)
April 16th, 2007 05:59
Ok scott why jessica i mean she was my favorite.i cried poor jonathan and what dess said about him only seeing her an hour and when she turns nineteen that jonathan would be old enough to die of old age.
than when she said oh no everything went black i was sobbing i was saying no no she cant be dead. poor beth. I reallly hope u make more midnighter books. saying that jonathan and jessica stay together 4ever and he somehow gets her out and they live happily ever after. Plus make new midnighter friends then visit rex a little bit in bixby. maybe well ive read all of ur books except the risen empire and the other killing thing. but peeps was what i got hooked on first then last days im glad u brought cal back.
back to the subject please right another midnighter book id die if u stopped with jess being sucked into the blue time and never coming out. i could never put those books down. it sucks for meliss though that she has to sepend every day with the moping jonathan and i love him. his greatest fear dropping jessica how sweet. and forgetting there first kiss on pegasus. when i was reading that book i loved chapter 21 when he kissed her and she brought him up into the sky and kissed him. well im riting alot. when i waas done reading the secret hour i always read chapter 21 over and over again. I love ur books keep righting please.
p.s. please please dont let brad kerns at the cw chang their age that ruins the hole concept!
April 16th, 2007 12:20
WOW! I was sooooooooooooooooooooooo mad when you told us that Jonothan could only see Jessica for 1 hour(well obviously but I’m still mad!) I almost hurled the book out my window… but then I would have gone to get it… hehe. So are you going to make more Midnighters books? please do!!!!!
April 17th, 2007 02:16
he said that he can’t really do anymore because STUPID ALLOY owns part of the rights to the story so writing more would be unrealistic. totally sad-making.
but theres always loopholes. you can make more. we could even make a fund raiser entitled the “buy back the rights to the midnighters so scott can write more of them before the fan people die of anticipation fund raiser” (think of how big the banner would have to be for advertising that one)
April 17th, 2007 11:15
Oh was that movie good ImInLoveWithJonathan?! Oh I’ve been meaning to see it(Shia Lebouf’s fawesome)! Oh and after all this time, because of freaking alloy, I could’ve raised a million bucks by now, myself alone!
And Hey lauraya and maddie-la! Man I really wish there was another book.I mean I TOTALLY love Uglies, but Uglies had the sort of ending that it COULD’VE stopped,(but you know I’m glad it didn’t!), but yeah.
Ugh and you guys know what’s weird? A lot of people are simply SCARED(!?!) of the cover(S) of midnighters, or just haven’t heard of the series.I mean the book stores aren’t really helping, I JUST now saw the series in Barnes and Nobles; Uglies and TLD have been advertised like Wonka Bars!(But don’t get me wrong, I LOVE these series!!, AND Wonka bars!!). I mean if this so called SHOW is freaking fawesome, then midnighters should get a whole lot of buzz, if that what midnighters needs in order to continue.
But its just that midnighters is so freaking fawesome, and its so deep. I never had to walk around like a zombie after reading Uglies or TLD(Not that that’s totally a bad thing). But hmm, maybe Scott IS working on another midnighters book(I hope by the power of Samhain!) because he’s not really doing much after Extras, is he?
Oh well I’ll wait forever for midnighters, because like a dimension(well the dimension set in MY mind, the one Jessica’s get out of), there’s hope, there’s got to be!!
April 17th, 2007 11:59
Demensiona: “I never had to walk around like a zombie after reading Uglies.” Are you kidding?! I did. Well, Specials, anyway. My brain spent about three days rewiring itself with an ending in which my favorite character was still there lol.
April 18th, 2007 05:11
I do the whole rewrighting endings in my head alot too
April 18th, 2007 07:39
i know alissa i never had to walk around after uglies i just got alittle mad at the fact that zane died in specials i mean why. he was so good. i mean really and now jessica is stuck ina different world but being in midnight might not be bad if jonathan is there. i mean really i would love to be stuck w/ jonathan in midnight just not meliss i dont want her peaking in on my conversations or thoughts. gosh who would.
April 18th, 2007 07:40
i know lauraya
April 18th, 2007 07:43
o my gosh yes, Demensiona! you have to go see disterbia! NOW! it was the best movie ive seen in a while. pretty scarey too. shia = fexcelent!
April 18th, 2007 07:44
o and i was at work the other day and there was a person named dess.i was like o. my. god! she fit my description of an older dess too.
April 18th, 2007 07:51
No way the end sucks she like dead but not the ending is not good i was crying my eyes out she will never be able to talk to her family again i hate the ending you need to make a nother book when they like find out a way to get her out of the blue time this sucks
April 18th, 2007 11:15
Sorry Alissa, but I didn’t really have any emotional connection to Zane. I think the outcome of Uglies was clean and to the point, no emotional problems there.
Yep,I’m DEFINETLY seeing Disturbia now!Ugh but I just wish it was rated R(Though not like I could get in w/o my older sisters yet!), but I hate going to movies w/ immature people,you can’t even enjoy the movie!Hmm midnighters would probably be rated PG-13 if it was a movie right,ugh(Well at least it’d be fun going w/ friends). Oh and Fool ImInLoveWithJonathan!Seeing a Dess look- a-like, at work?That’s fawesome!
And nicole, I was just flustered about the outcome of midnighters.Though I totally agree w/ you, there needs to be another book. Just ONE book ALLOY! I’d be fine w/ ONE book!
April 18th, 2007 16:50
My brother’s watching Future Weapons, and they’ve got these little remote control machines that have cameras and audio that are designed to be used to get information in a hostage situation. Sound familiar? Lol, if we’re lucky someone’ll invent hoverboards soon.
April 19th, 2007 01:49
i saw that! well actually i heard it while my dad was watching it in the other room. and yeah demensiona i know what you mean about immature people in the movies. a few months ago we saw this one movie and these people were totally drunk and were kicking our chairs and talking. but in disterbia, everyone was too busy screaming and being scared.
April 19th, 2007 11:00
Oh yeah I’ve heard of that show Alissa, but I’ve never physically sat down to watch it. Yeah they should DEFINETLY invent hoverboards soon because isn’t about time that we get into that chrome FUTURE that we always see on TV and in our heads? And we’re not going to advance into that future until they start making inventions like hoverboards. Wow, that’s fawesome!!!
And ImInLoveWithJonathan, dido on the drunken idiots kicking your chairs incident(s). Wow, in the movie theaters up the street from my house, no one ever screams(so it kind of sucks because that’s the fun of it)! Ugh,I can’t wait for the weekened so I can finally see it!!
Hey if midnighters was a movie, I know exactly what part I’d be scared of, (In the Secret hour) is when Jessica is like kneeling underneath the window and when she gets up she sees …. JONATHAN!!!(Ugh the sound effects would probably kill me)!!Man that’d be fun!!!
April 20th, 2007 02:36
omg yeah. that would be so funny if everyone screamed. lol. and that sucks no one screams in the movies. thats the best part. there were these guys next to us that were screaming like crazy. so funny.
April 20th, 2007 06:34
cool, i’m post 1111.
when i saw 300 the cinema was deserted, there were only like 5 other people. 300 is a really great movie, my greek teacher was talking about it tons, it was hilarious. but the movie’s great, if slightly gory.
April 20th, 2007 07:08
yeah my class was talking about that in english about a month before any commercials came on the tv about it. i have no idea where they heard about it from but they (a few guys and our then english teacher mr. jenkins (he was a “semi perminant substitute”) got into a discution about it. they all went out and saw it. it seemed to gory for me.
April 20th, 2007 07:40
it was coooooooool… and it had ogres in it and giants, and monsters and huge Mumakil-type elephant things, and the immortals were like orcs, which was weird, but with fool masks, and they threw fireworks at people which was weird, but very cinematic, and the bit with all the arrows was fexcellent (like in Hero), and there was this weird hunchback guy, and you could’nt tell whose son was the guy who got killed.
But it was very cool. If slightly plot-missing
April 20th, 2007 08:59
wow that sounds pretty cool. so they took a mythical aproach to it im guessing? (well duh stupid question i havent seen many giants, orcs, or ogres running around)
April 20th, 2007 10:55
Yeah ImInLoveWithJonathan, I LOVE to see other people scream!
Oh, so 300 was good nick?Hmm well I like the overall look of the film from what I can see/saw from the commercials. Sounds fawesome!
April 20th, 2007 11:03
i know exactly what you mean demensiona. thats why haunted houses are so fexcelent. me and my friends want to do one of them so bad. (like be in one) but you have to be at least 17 or something like that.
April 20th, 2007 23:40
yes, 300 was mythology-based… in fact, it was based more on the graphic novel (which is like an extra-long comic book) than the real events (so it was not really historically correct, just like Troy wasnt). the guy who directed it does a lot of graphic novel movies(he directed Sin City). Although comic-book movies sound terrible, V for Vendetta (brilliant movie) was based on a graphic novel and 300 has all the slow-motion-arterial-blood-spurting action.
(weird greek thing: the guy’s son (I was’nt sure whose son he was) is called Astheneis, which means weak, even though he’s a soldier)
April 21st, 2007 08:42
was it militiades? i think thats who it was. or no it as leonidas. leodidas died i think.
April 21st, 2007 09:09
It was Leonidas(like the chocolate-makers)! Miltiades was Athenian. Of course Leonidas died, it was him and his 299 bodyguards, and two thousand greeks (some of whom betrayed them) and they all got completely obliterated. Apart from this guy who was blinded.
”Leonidas dies i think” What, did you think Leonidas was still alive today? of course he died!
and the real Spartans all had a lambda(Λ) (greek for ‘L’) on their shields, which they sort of did in the movie, and Leonidas had it on his clasp for his cloak, and the L either stood for Leonidas, (their king) or Laikedaimonios, which is greek for Spartan.
April 21st, 2007 11:11
Yeah I would love to work in a haunted house, but believe or not, I don’t like to go through them.I was feaked out when I went to that mummy returns walk through at Universal Studios(I just don’t like things touching me in the dark! And you can’t even hit them back/out of reflex, because you’ll get in trouble).Never again!!! But its fun to watch other people walk through(right on past me)!
Oh and nick I STILL haven’t seen V for Vendetta, but I really want too! Oh and Sin City was pretty fawesome!
Wow you guys now a lot about the greeks, well greek mythology. I was a little deprived in elementary, middle school, and I’m thinking now high school. Hmm, maybe in Ap literature this year. But I did see the Odyssey, does that count?
April 23rd, 2007 01:12
no nick i knew he died (im not that stupid) i meant i think the guy you were talking (the son or whatever) was named Leonidas. sorry im rather vague sometimes.and demensiona, i know all about greek stuff and all because 1) greek mythology is rather facinating to me and 2) we just spent like a whole quarter of the school year in history doing anchient greece and wars and the olympics.
April 23rd, 2007 01:14
erm… wait being vague again. leonidas was one of the heros in that battle but he was killed. sorry son or whatever is kinda not specific and probably not understandable to anyone but me. i do that sometimes sorry.
April 24th, 2007 07:00
i have returned!!!!!!!
April 24th, 2007 07:04
694 was my very last post, as i & my friend whom has cancer was trying to convince herself that she didnt, and she wont die if scott westerfeld doesnt write the next midnighters book soon, were talking bout. anyways hiy agains peoples, sup all? im back and im not emo, just incase u didnt kno thats just a joke between me and my cancer-indused friend……smiles and smiles…..
April 24th, 2007 07:09
WOW
April 24th, 2007 07:19
tracy, go spam/piss people off on some other blog. goodbye. and if u ever impersonate/ lie about my health status you’ll be sorry. people pay no mind to the idiotic/moronic person who thinks its funny to lie about people.
April 24th, 2007 07:20
and its who has cancer not whom. learn some grammar skills.
April 24th, 2007 11:00
Um wow, I’m guessing you guys know eachother, um no comment.
And okay on the greek mythology ImInLoveWithJonathan, that’s fawesome.
Um wow, I’m kind of speechless. Hmmm….
April 25th, 2007 02:10
yes demensiona we do know each other. (unfortunately. jk tracy. although sometimes…)
April 25th, 2007 08:19
O My God! I was on this website looking up the meanings of different names and i looked up Desdemona. It means “of the devil”! Can you believe that? Dess is so not a demonac or satanist.
April 25th, 2007 10:42
The devil? I wonder what THAT’S supposed to mean? Wow!
April 26th, 2007 09:14
i know! i wonder if scott knew that when he named her that. *runs to go check midnighters names explained page* I will let you know soon.
April 26th, 2007 09:18
nope. midnighters name page says nothing of dess meaning “of the devil” scott were you aware of this? my favorite character in the midnighter’s name (and my fish’s) means of the devil? interesting.
April 26th, 2007 10:59
Yeah ImInLoveWithJonathan, I didn’t hear about the “of the Devil”, part. That’s so interesting!!
Did you know that my favorite midnighter’s name means HONEY BEE?(Taken from wikipedia):
“In Greek mythology ________ was a forest nymph that saved Zeus from his father, Cronus. She hid him in the hills and fed him milk from Amalthea and honey. When Cronus discovered this, he turned her into a worm, but Zeus, in gratitude, changed her into a queen bee.
-Can you guess who?
April 26th, 2007 11:24
It’s Melissa right? I actually looked up what all the midnighters names meant a while back.
Other then the ones already mentioned, here they are (Of course most of their definitions don’t have much to do with midnighters):
Jonathon: Gift from god
Jessica: Wealthy
Beth: God’s promise
Madeleine: The tower
Constanza: Steadfast
None of these definitions really fit the characters.
Also, I was really bored today, so I figure out that me and my friends all have birthdays that it you multiply the year by the day by the month (say your birthday is 8-21-90, then you’d multiply 8 times 2 times 1 times nine) Well, all of our birthdays end of being multiples of twelve. We found this to be slightly scary.
April 27th, 2007 02:39
it is Melissa. I cheated and went on a name dictionary page.
Heres what they have to say about Melissa:
With your charismatic personality and persuasive powers you naturally attract all the good things in life which you could want. Kind, generous and sincere you are a good friend and partner with strong attachments to home and family. You are ambitious and have sound business acumen, this together with a natural love of life ensures that you enjoy success financially and in your relationships.
not really seeing it for Melissa. Attract good things in life? no. kind? sometimes. good relationships? well her and rex kinda arent in the same state with each other anymore soooooo.
April 27th, 2007 15:14
Hey mistranslated nonelectrical Ornimentation, yeah you guessed right!Hmm…. but I think Jonathan, Madeleine, and Constanza’s names kind of suit them, well at least in part.And totally feird on the birthdays, yet fawesome!!
Oh and interesting ImInLoveWithJonathan, but yeah I agree w/ you, I’m not really seeing too much Melissa;well at least for the foremost. And yeah, the relationship thing’s very unfortunate.
-Hey did you guys hear (on the news) about that new(discovered) planet. It’s like outside the solar system and it’s like trillions miles away from earth. But they said that its very similar to earth but it’s like 50 percent bigger than earth or something. I think we might be able to sustain life there.
Can you guys imagine that?
April 27th, 2007 15:32
Oh and hey scott, what’s with this current work-in-progress ,young-adult alternate history novel that I’ve heard about?Hmm…?
April 27th, 2007 15:34
Oh and hey scott, what’s with this current work-in-progress ,young-adult alternate history novel that I’ve heard about?Hmm…?
April 27th, 2007 15:35
ugh I have no idea why it posted my comment twice, sorry!
April 28th, 2007 07:12
what? is scott writing another book? and is it a history book, cause if it is then i got to know more info!
April 28th, 2007 12:41
Hi TAlLY!!!!! Oh yeah I was just randomly searching for info on the midnighters show when I came upon this:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/print.php?id=37801
-I’m definitely intrigued,it sounds fawesome. But I won’t bug scott about it… MUCH! Haha, but I hope that scott IS really working on this book and it’s not just a random rumor. But I doubt it because the other info was correct so hmmmm…..
April 28th, 2007 15:05
That sounds fawsome. I hope it’s not just some random rumor.
April 29th, 2007 05:20
I was shocked by the ending I was expecting Midngiht to be over at the end. I thought it was so sad that I cried. There should be another book about how Jessica frees herself from the 25th hour!!!
April 29th, 2007 19:18
Jen: that’s actually not a bad idea. Everyone so far seems to think Jonathan, Rex, Dess, etc. should free Jessica, but I like the Jessica freeing herself way better. After all, she’s supposed to be practically the most powerful midnighter out there, so it would make more sense.
April 30th, 2007 01:14
i was also sad when jessica was stuck in the 25th hour, but i am glad that they didnt end the blue time altogether.That would have been even worse for me.
DEMENSIONA- wow i havent written in a really long time, but this was def. a good place to come back on! i wonder why scott hasnt mentioned anything though?
May 1st, 2007 11:20
Yeah mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I hope it’s not a rumor!
Hi Jen, yeah sometimes I imagine that Jessica would free herself, but how?
Though actually Alissa, I’m starting to think that it would make more sense if Jessica never got out of the dimension. I mean we’re really we’re fighting the odds to like a billion to one. But who knows, I think scott knows!!(haha).
YES TAllY!,This zone was a FEXCELLENT place to come back on! But yeah I totally agree w/ you on the whole preservation of the secret hour. But could you truly imagine a 25th hour? An hour of blue and we’re just sleeping through it, frozen! I think that would be totally fawesome! But when you say that you wonder why scott hasn’t mentioned anything though, are you referring to that new novel/the zone/or the secret hour?
And oh my gosh you guys, I SO want to go to that new planet XENA!!!!(Although I hope the discovery of this new planet doesn’t hint that there’s some global disaster to come!)!
Anyways, if that happens, I’ll be on the first rocket out of here!!haha!
May 1st, 2007 12:10
Wait!Oh MY GOSH YOU GUYS, OH MY GOSH YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE REALLY IS A MIDNIGHTERS SHOW AIRING THIS YEAR ON SCI-FI!!!!!!
http://home.att.net/~scifitv/newshows.html
I mean I know that there’s not really much information but it’s there, it’s proof!(You just might have to search a little)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 1st, 2007 12:11
I’M NOT READING IT!!!!!! I’M NOT BEING NAUGHTY!! IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO ME GO TO SPECIALS SPOILERS CUZ I CAN’T READ THIS *SADNESS* OK WELL I LOVED THE FIRST BOOK AND AM WAITING TO GET THE NEXT ONE
*GASP* HEROS IS ON :O BYE!
May 1st, 2007 15:19
Three words: Midnighters television show! I’m so happy. There’s actually evidence. I mean it’s kind of vague, but there is actual evidence that they are considering a TV show. Also, did you notice that it says teenagers, not adults. Doesn’t this mean that they aren’t going to do the whole making twenty something thing?
A Midnighters TV show! I’m so excited!
May 2nd, 2007 09:27
Well I don’t know how Jessica would free herself from the 25th hour but im sure Scott Westerfeld would find a way for her. Does anybody know when the Midnighters show is going to be on TV?
May 2nd, 2007 10:44
Yeah mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I DID see T E E N A G E R S !!!
Oh my gosh that’s so totally fawesome, I’m fuper excited!!!!
Oh and I’m not sure EXACTLY when the midnighters show aires Jen but I can’t wait!! Oh and I’m glad that the show will be on SCI-FI, because it would’ve been cheesy on the cw I think(THEY were going to change the ages!)!
I can’t wait to see/hear casting!!!
May 5th, 2007 09:56
Demensiona- i totally believe that there could be a blue time, and if it isnt going on now then it will sometime in the near future i am sure. (if it is going on now its kinda creepy though cause people can come in and look at us. weird!)
and i was talking about scott not mentioning the new book.
And wow thats sooo exciting that there will actually be a show. i hope it will show mondays, or fridays. Cause every other day i am busy watching CSI, House, American idol, and Top model. I suppose i could find time though! lol
** OH! and if anyone watches American idol. What did you think of George Bush up there. YES thats right our president!**
May 5th, 2007 17:24
Yep the blue time is fawesome yet creepy. Hahaha, I love it!!
Yeah as for the show, I’m hoping for either a monday, friday, or a Sunday(I just love sundays/to me they’re very calming). Oh and yeah Tally I watch CSI, House, Law and Order SVU, and Top Model(I hope Natasha wins).
- And George on American Idol?That’s a new one.
Hmm…
May 6th, 2007 01:14
lol yeah i thought it was a little odd seeing our president up there. and i hope Jasline or Natasha wins on americas next top model.
** i am making a purse out of 1 of scott’s books. What do you guys think would be the coolest cover to show?**
May 7th, 2007 03:17
it sucs that jessica is stuck in the secret hour and that rex is staying with dess and johnathan and melissa and jessica are leaving to look for more midnighters.
WRITE ANOTHER BOOK!!!
May 8th, 2007 05:47
Tally, I think the best book cover is either between Blue Noon or Uglies. But I don’t know, it depends which colors you want to go with.
Hi tom, dido on another book!
May 8th, 2007 06:48
personally I would like the aussie cover of peeps (the one that looks like it has eye makeup all under the persons eye. so fawsome.) or… either the first or second midnighters cover. (us versions)
May 9th, 2007 10:47
yeah i think that i might want the aussie version of peeps that looks so cool. Wasnt there going to be a chinese version of one of the books or am i making it up? Cause that mightbe cool too. but how would you order it?
May 9th, 2007 11:40
First of all, I think you should use either the aussie cover of peeps or one of the midnighers book covers.
Secondly, and this has nothing to do with midnighters, but here in Arizoa, we had our first hundred degree farenheit day, last week. How many of you are still having cold temperatures and rain? Just wondering. It’s too hot!
May 9th, 2007 12:34
Oh I forgot about that PEEPS cover, yeah that’s fawesome!!! Like I said, I depends which kinds of colors that you want to go with and the style of the purse.
Hmm I’m not quite sure how you would order that version Tally. I mean I would say amazon but I’ve never heard about that version or seen it.It sounds fool though!!
Oh no mistranlated nonelectrical ornimentation, the heat’s already hit Arizona? Ugh, I’m moving at the end of June, ugh I guess I’m doomed!!! But um San Diego’s, CA pretty hot right now, I’m convinced it’s due to global warming!Gee…
May 10th, 2007 05:16
No Chinese book yet, but there’s a Japanese Uglies, either out already or coming out, I’m not sure. We aren’t quite up to a hundred yet, (Southwest Canada) but it’s hot enough out that I already have a tan (of the natural not-really-trying variety, not the lie on the beach until you get one kind).
May 10th, 2007 05:46
yeah. i heard about the japanese version. its a manga book right? they should make an english manga book of it. my friend would totally read it then. (shes obsessed with manga books and refuses to read anything other than manga. her loss. shes missing out on a lot. HEATHER)
May 10th, 2007 08:03
oh! Japanese not chinese. woops. and i hope i dont sound stupid for asking but what exactly is a manga book? is it with the drawings and the clips of people talking or something?
May 10th, 2007 12:34
Um, I think that the Japanese version of Uglies is partially manga.
And yeah ImInoveWithJonathan, one of my best frineds is like that. Total anime freak!! Yeah she used to like eat, sleep, and drink mangas but I kind of got here out of here trance w/ Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight.She’s reading midnighters right now and she’s like in LOVE WITH it(I don’t blame her!), her favorite characters REX, she’s so random!!
Oh and Tally don’t feel stupid( I’ll tell you what’s totally stupid, I just found out not to long ago that Washington D.C. is on the East coast!Now that’s TOTALLY IDIOTIC. Now how I missed that , I have no idea. Gee I’m slow!).
But mangas are basically Japanese comic books that you read right to left. And they’re totally fawesome!
May 11th, 2007 04:43
Yeah, I love manga. But (unfortunately) the Japanese Uglies isn’t manga, it just has very manga-esque illustrations.
May 11th, 2007 07:15
yeah my friend is the same way as yours demensiona. only i havent quite gotten her to read twilight yet. im SO close though. all i had to do was say hot vampire and she was like “omg so mine”
May 11th, 2007 14:16
Hi Alissa!!Yeah the Japenese version of uglies isn’t a manga, but I still want to buy it!! Illustrations are fawesome!!!
And NO WAY ImInLoveWithJonathan, I had to say the exact same thing! These anime fans are hard to persuade. But my friend’s still random, she’s a total wolf-girl(Jacob)!
Hahaha, you know what, Edward reminds me of Jonathan somehow/ I read twilight right after Blue Noon.( I always get Blue Noon and New Moon mixed up!). Maybe because they’re both fotally and fextremely fot!!!
May 12th, 2007 07:25
still, manga-esque would be more apealing to her than a regular novel-type book. demensiona, my friend is an all out vampire lover. she would never pick jacob over edward. yeah. i know what you mean with the edward/jonathan thing. although i didnt picture them looking the same, i never did imagine jonathan being hispanic.
May 14th, 2007 09:04
yeah ImInLoveWithJonathan i never thought that Jonathon was hispanic either. While reading i just never got that vibe for some odd reason.
May 14th, 2007 09:06
Oh ImInLoveWithJonathan, I didn’t mean that Edward and Jonathan look the same, just that they’re both incredibly hot in their own AMAZING way!
May 14th, 2007 09:13
Oh Tally, didn’t see your comment. Yeah um I think it’s interesting that Jonathan’s Hispanic. You know what,while reading midnighters, I just kind of forgot. But I always had a clear mental image of his face in my head though. I kind of pictured Jonathan looking like Shane West(A Walk to Remember) for some reason. I don’t know, he just kind of fit/fits.
May 14th, 2007 12:02
oh ok now that makes more sense demensiona. omg i know. Edward or Jonathan. hmmmmmmmmm… acrobat or hot vampire???? hmm.. tough choice. too bad neither exists.(or do they? hey i can dream.) lol
May 14th, 2007 16:15
Hahaha! Yeah ImInLoveWithJonathan, we CAN dream!!! Ugh I can’t choose!!! Hmm well lets see in the negative sense: 1 hour of nauseousness(temporary) or three days of excruciating pain(permanent).
ImInLoveWithJonathan?
May 15th, 2007 09:50
I thought this was amazing! But, it really sucks for Jess and Jonathan. I mean, sure they can be together for a while, but in a year, she will only age 15 days. and in say 24 years, she will only be one year older. How’s that for a difficult relationship to maintain? And Jess is going to be watching them all grow older and not do so herself. Tough life ahead of her.
May 17th, 2007 05:12
hmmmm… i did’t take the three days of pain. me tolerance for pain isnt all that great but it doesnt suck either. plus the effects are permanent. and ive always to be a vampire. (something is just so apealing about those blood sucking albino looking creatures)
May 17th, 2007 13:17
omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!
i finaly finished
(actually now on page 170 in peeps!)
awsome!! ending was kinda sad though, but atleast she didn’t die! totaly.
May 18th, 2007 08:17
WRITE ANOTHER BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 18th, 2007 12:22
Ok, two questions:
First of all, I was just wondering, if you guys were midnighters, which talent do you think you would have? (Out of the main five, and the ones we have made up.) I would definetely be a seer.
Also, I only have three more days left until summer vacation. How about you guys?
May 18th, 2007 16:44
I’d be a mindcaster, out of the original talents. Of the ones we made up… probably a Soldier (my personal creation lol), but possibly the languages one…
May 19th, 2007 00:39
mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, i would probably be a polymath. and also, i hate you more than you could imagine.(not really but its not fair) you only have three more days left of school!! AHHHHHH. no fair. we have like a month left. which sucks. you probably live near the west cost right? like near california and arizona? (that is if you’re from the states.)
May 19th, 2007 05:46
Anyone hear the news? Lloyd Alexander(author of the Prydain Chronicles) died. I can’t believe it. Those were my absolute favorite books when I was about fouteen. Anyone else read any of his books?
May 19th, 2007 07:21
This was one of the most exillerating book series i have ever read. I think that maybe the auther might surprise us with another series or book IN the series. PS…..It sucks what happened to Jessica Day…….
May 19th, 2007 10:14
People, that have read midnighters, tell me that i would be a mindcaster. One of my friends have actually gone as far as calling me, “Hey mind caster!, every day. From today i have 2 more days left of school, and they are both half days!!!!!Yeah!!!
May 19th, 2007 14:55
Yes, I’m on the west coast. In AZ. We do get out of school earlier then most states and places, but (don’t ask me if this is actually that early) We usually go back either the first or second week of August.
My friend and I have actually given talents to like everyone that we know. Of course, many of them haven’t read the books. (I’m working on getting them to read it.) We have our polymath (she always is way ahead of the rest of the class in math), acrobat, mindcaster, flamebringer, metalurge, timebender, sketcher, illusionist, etc. There’s actually a few people that we have ended up labeling stiffs. It’s great fun to do when you’re bored.
May 20th, 2007 11:15
Hey guys!!!!!!! (my computer wouldn’t allow me to post for a long time or something).
-Hi Kelsey!I totally agree w/ you!
-Hi ImInloveWithJonathan, yeah, I’m totally w/ you on the whole fact of permanence. And yeah, vampires are so unbelievably appealing!And awesome, polymath!
- Hi Matt, I fotally agree w/ you!
-Hi rae!
- Oh mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, I would consider myself a mindcaster too.( I peronally think its the most awesome talent, and I feel as if I can connect w/ Melissa on some kind of higher level).Or maybe a Dream Gatherer or Ignitmus-Toxin.
-And no Alissa, I haven’t read those books but that’s unfortunate. The death of a writer is like a reader’s worse nightmare!!
- And I wouldn’t say that the whole vactation thing is a WEST Coast thing because I live in San Diego, California, and we get out in like 4 weeks( a month).
May 20th, 2007 11:18
Oh and have you guys seen that new movie “Pan’s Labyrinth?” I’m TRAUMATIZED!!
Wow I knew it was rated R for graphic violence, but not THAT GRAPHIC! I thought it was going to be a little more fantastical , but it was good. I love the filming and the music, but it was very depressing . But very interesting! But personally for me, that movie was a one-timer.
I just can’t take THAT grim fantasy, or people’s heads getting mulled in and cheeks getting cut off!!!!
May 21st, 2007 07:32
guys i need a little freshening up. What characteristics do each talent carry again? I need to read this series again for sure!
polymath, mindcaster,seer,etc….
May 23rd, 2007 06:13
i wanted to see pans labyrinth but couldn’t cause im kinda not old enough to see r movies by myself or w/ friends and no one would see it with me.
*tear*
May 23rd, 2007 06:13
but if it is that grotesque maybe its for the better that i didnt
May 23rd, 2007 13:09
Hi Tally! Yeah, sometimes I need a refesher too! But somehow I think that I’m not the best person to ask(I’ll probably confuse you AND myself). But I have key words:
(1).Acrobat: Floating, weightless/hunger (Jonathan)
(2).Polymath:Coordinates, trides,metal,rapid math skills(Dess)
(3).Mindcaster:(hard one to define)Um, tastes darkling, thoughts, hands(Melissa).
(4).Flame-Bringer:working electronics in the blue time, light, different eyes(Jessica Day).
(5).Seer: Read, lore, arrowheads, history
(Rex).
-Hoped that helped some!
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan, you know I don’t remember hearing about it in the movie theaters, but everyone tells me that it was. Yeah I’m not really old enough to watch it too(16 in oct.), but my mom lets me go see rated R movies as long as there’s not any sexuality.
But yeah, it’s better that you didn’t.I mean it IS a good movie, but like they said (on the commercial that I DIDN’T see) that it’s an ADULT fairytale. But so depressing and graphic.
Let’s just say that my mouth still hurts!But like I said, the overall look of the movie and music were fawesome. And the fairies were cute too…
until they got their heads cut off!
May 24th, 2007 04:56
aw poor fairies. reminds me of the frogs we disected today. my friend was saying she was going to come in screaming LIBERATE THE FROGS! but they were already dead so it wouldnt have helped at all.
May 26th, 2007 04:31
thanxs!!!
What and who is a time bender though?
did we make that up?
May 29th, 2007 06:53
we must have made that up because it’s not in any of the books. i believe demensiona was the one that came up with that but maybe it was nick or alyssa.
May 29th, 2007 09:27
yeah i didnt think it was in the books, but i wasnt sure if i just missed it.
May 29th, 2007 13:05
Hi guys!!!
Oh you’re welcome Tally, I’m glad to help.
Mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation created that talent I believe. The Time Bender, to my understanding: Can retrieve and utilize inanimate objects of the past, at any given moment (They are extremely knowledgeable in history).
And yikes ImInLoveWithJonathan! We have to disect like fetal pigs, ugh they smell like onions and blood(I guess Bella and I have something in common/the smell of blood makes me extremly nauseated)!
May 31st, 2007 05:46
omg i know exactly what you mean! the ap bio class after us had to disect the fetal pigs and they were getting them (the pigs) ready while we were finishing up our lab. it was pretty nauseating. not only the smell. the fact that we have to cut apart an animal “in the name of science” for a grade when half (actually more than half) of the class was just goofing off and cutting the poor things any way they felt like and mutilating it. its just sad that we are forced to participat in that sort of thing.
May 31st, 2007 12:45
I know, they’re(were!) BABIES! And the fingernails were killing me! That aspect of science is SO not fool!!!!!
June 1st, 2007 06:30
ugh. sciesnce is so disgusticified by disecting. and sad-making. who ever came up with disecting things is not on my good list.
June 2nd, 2007 14:49
Haha, mine either! But neurology is pretty fawesome!(until you have to fiddle w/ sheep brains)!
June 3rd, 2007 03:07
that would disterb me very much. neurology is the study of the brain and such right?
June 3rd, 2007 06:47
Brain and nervous system.
June 3rd, 2007 07:09
thats what i thought. there’s this book i want to read called blink that has to do with neurology and split second desicion making and how you make desicions all the time and you dont even think about it. it sounds cooler when explained in the summary. (they know what they’re talking about. as apposed to me. who doesn’t.)
June 4th, 2007 04:57
Hi Alissa!
Hmm, and that book sounds really interesting ImInLoveWithJonathan!I’ve got to read it!
June 5th, 2007 01:58
i threw Blue Noon across the room. so sad!
June 9th, 2007 17:59
Hi maddie-la!(Yep, sore spot’s still hurting)
Hey guys they’re totally confusing me w/ this midnighters TV business. I mean I thought the show was going to air on sci-fi but it appears that it’s going to air on thecw(ugh).
http://flixer.com/x/modules/newbb/report.php?forum=16&topic_id=34&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&post_id=41
I just know that I better see a midnighter show on SOME channel, like this year!But at least we know now the producers, I mean that’s SOMETHING…
-I suppose.
June 9th, 2007 17:59
Hi maddie-la!(Yep, sore spot’s still hurting)
Hey guys they’re totally confusing me w/ this midnighters TV business. I mean I thought the show was going to air on sci-fi but it appears that it’s going to air on thecw(ugh).
http://flixer.com/x/modules/newbb/report.php?forum=16&topic_id=34&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&post_id=41
I just know that I better see a midnighter show on SOME channel, like this year!But at least we know now the producers, I mean that’s SOMETHING…
-I suppose.
June 9th, 2007 18:00
Oh sorry for the duplicate!
June 10th, 2007 11:12
The issue of the Midnighters TV show confuses me too. I hope the CW doesn’t mutilate it by changing the ages of all the characters. The whole series (I REFUSE TO SAY TRILOGY) centers around Bixby High…make them, say, 26, and the whole story falls apart.
I just finished Blue Noon on Monday. So sad! Made me feel like when I finished the Abhorsen trilogy. Y’know, “Oh nooo, there’s not going to be another oneeee! *goes into state of deep depression* I’ve since started reading any other Westerfeld I can get my hands on, but it’s not the same…
Photophobiacs has thirteen letters, and it’s not on the big master list. Just a thought.
June 10th, 2007 11:26
Comment #1209. Is that a multiple of anything good? I personally like 1215 better. Awesome history year, with the Magna Carta and everything.
June 10th, 2007 11:30
BTW, all of your stories sound so cool. I plan to read them ALL, once I hunt them down.
June 11th, 2007 02:55
the cw was the one that wanted to change their ages right? i’ve never seen where anyone said it would be on sci-fi except for comments here. was it ever going to be on sci-fi? i don’t really care which channel it’s on, so longas they don’t change the ages of the midnighters. if they do, i will kill them. or write nasty emails giving tehm a piece of my mind at least.
June 11th, 2007 14:14
Hi contact!(love your name/interesting). Yeah they’re totally confusing me, but I have this feeling that they’re not going to mess w/ the ages because I didn’t see the producer who said that’s name on the list. Oh and what a coincidence, my friend finished Blue Noon on Monday too. She was totally depressed, but I was worse when I finished it last year(Wow, has it been a year already?Wow).But yeah, it’s not the same reading other books.
But I still can’t believe that Uglies has a FOURTH book, and that was supposed to be a trilogy. I mean I’m not mad, it’s fawesome, but it’s just that midnighters came first and the series doesn’t feel complete, unlike Uglies. And uglies has a MOVIE, a movie’s just so much more definite, but enough w/ my babble! It is what it is and I’m not complaining.
Oh and whoa, I just had to ask my brother what “BLW” was, that’s a new one! Haha, gee I’m slow!
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! Well I mean I found the info on the sci-fi website, but really no where else outside the web. I mean I can type in my cw password(gee it’s annoying), to see if there’s any insider news on the show. But the only age fluxation that I’ll allow is like 26 year-olds ACTORS/ACTRESSES who can pull the teenage look off. (Hey Tom Welling pulled it off, haha/ oops, I promised myself that I would’t mention anything SMALLVILLE related)!
June 11th, 2007 16:19
I never got the unfinished feeling about the Abhorsen books, but then I didn’t really like the second two nearly as well as Sabriel. They’re great books and all, but my favourite character (Touchstone) was kind of, I don’t know, OLD, so that sort of took the interest out of it for me lol.
June 11th, 2007 18:38
Ok, so it’s been a little while since I last posted. I’ve been on vacation.
First of all, my question I was just thinking about: If each midnighter lives an extra hour each day, and after approx. 24 years, they have lived an extra year, then would a midnighter actually be twenty-five when they trun twenty-four?
Ok, so a friend of mine just finished the first midnighter book. (She’s hopefully goign to join us posting on here when she finishes the third.) Well, after reading the first book, she is now obsessed with 7’s, 12’s, and 13’s. Anyways, she sent me this time line of imformation from history and stuff that invovles 12’s and 13’s. Here it is (I found it to be very interesting):
1887=Montrose, ridden by I. Lewis, wins the Kentucky Derby (13 letters) and a purse of $4,200 (4,200 seconds divided by 60=70 minutes, 7+0=7).
For the 7th (note the 7) year in a row, tennis marvel, Richard D. Sears (13 letters) wins the US men’s singles championship (12 letters) in tennis
Average income:$580.00 (5+8=13)
1896=1st certified public accountant=Frank Broaker (12 letters)
Average cost of new home=$4,900.00 (4+9=13)
Average income= $625.00 (6+2+5=13)
1911=Vice President= James S. Sherman (13 letters)
Average cost of a gallon of gas=$0.07 (7+0=7)
Average cost of a new home=4,800 (4+8=12)
1920=President=Woodrow Wilson (13 letters)
Gallon of milk=$0.58 (5+8=13)
1959=Vice President=Richard M. Nixon (13 letters)
Gallon of gas=$0.25 (2+5=7)
King Mohammed (12 letters)=I’d rather not take the time to explaing this one, if you’re really interested, please, feel free to google it, you should get a ton of stuff
Income=5,016 (5+1+6=12)
The 12 nations (note the 12) approve a treaty establishing (12 letters) Antartica as a preserve for research
1968= Unenploymet (12 letters) at all time low in past years
Novelist John Steinbeck (13 letters) dies in New York City
Gallon of gas= $0.34 (3+4=7)
1977= Vice President= Walter Mondale (13 letters)
1986= President=Ronald Reagan (12 letters)
Gallon of Milk=$1.92 (1+9+2=12)
1995= Space probe’s name=Galileo (7 letters)
Space probe, galileo begins journey to Jupiter (also 7 letters)
By the way, sorry about the really long post. One last thing, did you know that the Mayan calendar ends on Dec. 12, 2012? Which is 12-12-12. Very darklingish.
June 12th, 2007 02:16
S’okay about the really long post. I’m okay about older actors(duh, they do that all the time)but making them older would screw up the show. Twenty-six-year-olds have better things to do at midnight then, say, save the world. The show would probably consist of, “Hey, dude, let’s go to a bar…HOMG! There’s this panthery thingy outside! Someone grab the the giant bag of metal I TOTALLY INCONSPICUOUSLY brought into the establishment!!!”
All those numbers are interesting,mistranslated nonelectrical ornamentation. Never thought about it that way, althought my and my friend’s birthday’s are riddled with thirteens and thirty-nines. I think I’m chronologicall darkling-proof.
June 12th, 2007 02:30
Gack, another P.S. post. I need to keep my thoughts together enough to make one. What’s with the sevens? I don’t understand that as much as the twelves and thirteens. *pulls out first book and starts crazily leafing through it*
Demensiona, my name refers to my thoughts as to how bad it would be to be a seer with contacts…I mean,to really be sure about any Focus, you’d have to take them out and then put them back in again, which is devilishly hard..Oh well, at least you can wear sunglasses. I had to start wearing them everywhere as soon as I got my contacts.
I’m currently listening to a song called The Red, by Chevelle. Do the lyrics remind anyone else of Midnighters, or have I got books on the brain again?
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/chevelle/thered.html
Somebody tell me, please. I want to know I’m not nuts.
June 12th, 2007 04:13
I don’t exactly know about the sevens. She’s just really interested in numbers. I call her a polymath.
Yeah, being a seer with contacts would not be easy. Glasses are probably the easiest thing. They do make perscription sunglasses though. Contacts would ot work out, though.
June 12th, 2007 04:58
mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation: i did know about that December 12, 2012 thing. many advanced civilizations stopped their calendars on that day because (supposedly remember this isn’t positive don’t go freaking out too bad) the poles of earth are going to reverse on this day and cause another mass extinction because (well duh) climates will change drastically. the north and south pole will become the equator and the equator will become the north and south poles.
June 12th, 2007 11:01
Sarn it, that’s the year after I graduate! No drinking for me.
June 12th, 2007 11:01
Whoops, I meant darn it.
June 13th, 2007 16:21
Hi Alissa!
Hi Mistranslated Nonelectrical Ornimentation! True on the ages (I just never thought about it), well the midnighters sure do seem mature.
And interesting on the housing. Jessica’s family moved into a new home/ trouble from the beginning.
And haha, you’re right Contact on the ages! And your name is TRULY genious.
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan, I failed the Mayan Calendar portion of my Spanish final exam,( haha/ there’s only so much that I can understand!)! Truly interesting, but can you tell me this?: Was the calendar in the form of a “ovalo” or a “circulo”? I just want to know if I at least got ONE question right on that portion ( I put “circulo”).
And that’s three years after the year I graduate!
June 14th, 2007 01:44
i believe it’s a circle (circulo) so if i’m correct on that, you got it right.
June 14th, 2007 01:53
*SUPER LONG POST WARNING! AND SCIENCE FILLED INFORMATION!*
Apparently the earth will be lined up with a few astral bodies but the main one being the biggest black hole that we are aware of in the universe.The gravitational pull of this black hole will be enough to create a magnetic field that will be strong enough to shift our pole which has already happened in our distant history with catastrophic consequence
In addition, in the last few years or so scientist have discovered that these same black holes emit a tremendous amount of gamma rays experienced by the astronauts now living in the space station.When the astronauts in space close their eyes they see flashes of white that come and go very quickly and we now know that these are caused by gamma rays
We are exposed to a certain level of gamma rays on a daily basis,but on december 21st 2012 the earth will be exposed to at least ten fold the amount of gamma rays we have ever experienced before.Scientist can only guess has to the consequences of such hugh level of gamma rays on the human body
don’t say i didn’t warn you.
June 14th, 2007 01:57
scott- can you do a post for us about this? you seem to be good at scientific stuff (ie pluto is NOT a planet) have you ever heard of this? is it true or just astrology-end-of-the-world-we’re-all-gonna-die stuff? (ie world’s going to end on 06/06/06. ermm… i’m still alive. and how we were all going to die in Y2K. still alive.)
June 14th, 2007 07:28
Man, you guys are young lol… Anyway, it’s interesting that they think they have a set date for the polarization switch. Based on the last one, I’d say it’ll be bad, but not too bad. As in whole nations might end up underwater (like Atland did last time) or ice (Antarctica), Antarctica will inevitably melt (not a bad thing as far as I’m concerned, but that’s just me), and earthquakes and volcanos will be off the charts, but it won’t kill everyone on the planet. A few less resourceful species might die out, but there’s nothing we can do about it. Anyway, that’s about the extent of my predictions for the end of the world lol.
June 14th, 2007 12:25
Thanks ImInLoveWithJonathan, and GULP on your research. Well basically, I think whatever happens in the future will be because it is SUPPOSED to happen. I, personally, don’t think we’ll be killed on a specific day or because of ONE specific cause. If anything, chages will be gradual. And whatever happens, happens. So I’m not worrying about it.
June 15th, 2007 02:17
I still believe Pluto is a planet. It’s a self esteem thing- Pluto happens to be my ruling planet, and so I really can’t say Pluto has been demoted to, say, I don’t know, an orbiting ice cube, without demoting myself. Hehe. The great Contact can’t be demoted, duh.
(watched March of the Penguins)
(I think too much of myself. Don’t listen to me, ‘kay?)
I’ve had some thoughts on the new talents issue brought up lots and lots of posts ago, and I’ve got a new, albeit nameless talent for y’all.
(?)-Midnighter able to extend lengths of new, clean metal to the nearest multiple of the Aversion.
Such as, “Agh, I’ve only got 12 links of steel here!”
“Never fear, I, the completely nameless talent until someone helps Contact, am here!” *extends chain to 13 links*
“Wow, thanks!”
Thanks on the name, Dimensiona.
Alissa, Antarctica melting IS BAD! Think of all the poor penguins! Like they don’t have it bad enough already
June 15th, 2007 05:17
actually Demensiona you are correct in saying that we won’t die in one day. the drastic changes will begin on december 21st and it will take anywhere between a year to 5 years for the world to fully rotate the poles. Alissa, the result of the poles reversing would be catastrofic. not only would we have to deal with massive gamma rays caused by being in line with a black hole, but also the poles wouldn’t reverse as in the north pole becomes the south pole and the south pole becomes the north pole, it would be that the north and south poles become the equator and the equator becomes the north and south poles. so antarctica melting would be a VERY bad thing. also everything near our now equator will freeze.
June 15th, 2007 06:15
Well, humanity survived it once, so I’m not worried. Hey, could this have anything to do with global warming?
June 15th, 2007 23:38
i was JUST thinking that not 5 seconds ago (literally i saw a picture of global warming when i signed in) but im not sure if that could cause a hole in the ozone layer. i think thats being caused by uv rays from the sun. (correct me if im wrong people)
June 15th, 2007 23:39
and all of humanity didnt survive. there used to be hundreds of variations of humans and after the last mass extinction there are only 8. (i think that was what it was. we had a discussion about this in biology class a while ago)
June 16th, 2007 10:31
Why Scott why?????????????? Its too sad! All the darklings dieing and leaving Jessica in the blue time?? NOOOO! Exspecially the part talking to Beth and that she said her mother was always crying.
Sadness. Jessica and Jonathan can’t even be together forever and ever because i mean Jessica friggin only alive one hour a day. AHHH!
June 16th, 2007 11:17
i know it hurts at first but the pain numbs after a while. (but you know what would amke her feel better, scott? another midnighters book. sorry had to do it)
June 16th, 2007 13:25
Hi guys!
Hi ImInloveWithJonathan and Alissa! Yes, Global Warming is a Global WARNING! This is random, but I found out that with the melting of glaciers and frozen over bodies of water, old diseases may be released!( birds can be carriers of diseases, their feces contain like chromosomes/DNA/protein or something that like PRESERVES the diseases?). But anyways, yeah, like since last year, its been like FREEZING in San Diego, CA( well at least to me). Either than that, you guys kind( well totally) lost me!
Hi addie-wa, yeah my pain has kind of subsided. But I just have this feeling that there IS going to be another book. Am I right Scott?
Fawesome talent Contact! Wow what would you call that talent? I think there should be a talent in which the midnighter creates dolls like Ada Lovelace ( don’t ask me why/ but there will probably be children in the secret hour now).Oh and very welcome on the name!
Oh and I’m SURE that you’re not nuts on the song lyrics Contact, but what part of midnighters are you SPECIFICALLY referring to? Now can you tell me if I’M nuts?:
So here’s a song that makes me think of the midnighter series kind of as a whole:
(Lyrics):
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/vanessacarlton/privateradio.html
(clip of song):
http://www.last.fm/music/Vanessa+Carlton/_/Private+Radio
Epilogue:
(1). From the beginning of the epilogue to the conversation between Dess and Melissa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R5keIoOozE
(2).From the conversation to Dess’s last words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pen0l54i-uE
(3).Movie Credits!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vFaoA7t2RE
- You can/please ignore the videos!
June 16th, 2007 17:57
Demensiona, I completely and totally agree that that Vanessa Carlton song sounds like midnighters. When you first mentioned it a while back, I realized that I had the cd (I had forgotten all about it,) so I went and listened to it. Now I put it on whenever I start to work on any of the stories I am working on. (exspecially my version of the fourth midnighters book) It’s kind of ended up being my inspiration, and it totally reminds me of midnighters. Also, I like the other three too, for the parts of the epiloque that you have them at.
June 16th, 2007 23:42
have any of you read tithe? that book was fawsome! its by holly black. Valient and Ironside come after it. They were amazing. I have a song that i think fits perfectly with one part in it.
June 17th, 2007 12:16
Hi mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation!!! Yeah I totally thought of midnighters when I was listening to that song one day(I love that CD)! I can totally imagine fliping on the TV and hearing that song blasting, and myself, singing along/getting pumped up for the HOUR long midnighters show!And good luck on your version of the fourth book, that’s so fawesome! And thanks on the other songs!
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! OH, IRONSIDE goes w/ THAT series! Yeah I was totally going to get Tithe, it sounded fawesome! But I got Wicked(The book write next to it) instead, when I was in Barnes and Noble a while back.Oh I wish I would have bought it/them, I TOTALLY want to here your song!
June 17th, 2007 13:38
okay JUST finished the series it waz so sad why would scott leave Jess in Blue Time grrrr
June 17th, 2007 13:40
demensiona didnt no u were here 2 well u and i got our hands full worryin about Extras and the Midnighters series:D
June 18th, 2007 02:03
wicked?!?!! I love that book. (well theres 2. which one?) i love the one by gregory mcguire. (you know the one about the wicked witch of the west? gotta love it) or is it the other one (which im reading right now) about wicca and witches and stuff like that? i love both. or it a different one?
June 18th, 2007 04:08
Sorry I haven’t replied in a while.
Dimensiona, all I’m coming up with name-wise is Extender or something…I’m not a science geek, I’m a history geek…No way I could come up with anything cool. On a darker note, I LOST MY SUNGLASSES!! *squints and runs around bumping into things* I think they’re gone forever…
The song lyrics I put in kind of remind me of post-darkling Rex, with the seeing thing, and the red being about the edges of the midnight rip, and such…
You’re not nuts, either. Very Midnighters-ish song, Dimensiona.
I have read the Gregory McGuire Wicked, and its sequel, but never heard of the other one.
June 18th, 2007 10:59
Contact sucks 4 u
June 18th, 2007 12:03
Yeah..now I have to find shade wherever I go. (Which is not easy where I live, especially in June.)
June 19th, 2007 04:33
ME 2 im in THE SUNSHINE STATE so its really hard 2 find shade
June 20th, 2007 12:20
Same! Florida’s not all it’s cracked up to be, eh? Plus, we have warm water…Don’t swin in tropical rivers!!!
(I just re-read Peeps today…)
June 20th, 2007 14:41
Hi guys!
Hi sarah!!!!!!! Oh my gosh it’s so COOL that you’re on this spoiler zone too!Yep I’ve been on this zone for A While now(a LONG while, haha)! I totally agree, we DEFINTELY have our hands F U L L now!Haha!
Hey ImInLoveWithJonathan! Yeah I should’ve been more specific (It seems like there’s like a billion Wickeds). I haven’t finished, but I’m reading the one w/ the Wicca and the witches. It’s by Nancy Holder and Debbie Viguie/ it’s called Witch and Curse. But the one by Gregory Mcguire sounds fawesome!
Hi Contact! Extender makes sense/sounds fawesome to me! And Peeps is totally fool! And now I fotally get what you’re saying on the lyrics. And thanks on my Midnighters-ish song and the comfirmation of my sanity! And sorry on the sunglasses, gee that sucks, I’d fate that!
And I don’t believe that California’s really not all that it’s cracked up to be either( but that’s just my opinion)!
June 21st, 2007 00:06
i no but lately its been all gloomy and stuff and rainy
yeah i just re-read uglies pretties and specials yesterday………. demensiona so cool uve been on and u live in cali ugh lucky do u live in san diego or san fransico or los angeles
June 21st, 2007 00:08
oh my god. is that confusing to you or is that just me? i started reading it and was like WHAT?!?!? I dont get it!!!!!! *cry* and its raining here where i live. but its better than the sweltering heat we’ve been having. i’m so glad i wasnt in arizona though. my grandmom said they had temberatures in the hundred and teen. (110+)
June 21st, 2007 01:58
u dont get uglies pretties and specials thats kind of odd we all got it in specials spoilers zone but i just finished toughing darkness and i have 2 get emotionally prepared 4 New Moon Demensiona says
yeah and its been raining in the sunshine state capital 2 
June 21st, 2007 02:23
Ah..BREAKING NEWS!! I just got word of my missing sunglasses..my friend had them! Yay!
Demensiona: thanks on the lyrics! I knew there was something about them. What’s the “f” thing from? If it’s a book that hasn’t come out in paperback/isn’t at the library then I haven’t read it, so please enlighten me!
June 21st, 2007 03:10
erm… what are you talking about sarah? no one said anything about not getting the uglies/pretties/specials books that i know of. i was talking to demensiona abouit wicked.
June 21st, 2007 03:33
OOOOO im so so sorry about that ImInLoveWithJonathan i didnt no that im sorry
u need 2 b more specific
June 21st, 2007 03:34
its great that u found ur sunglasses Contact happy 4 u
what part of florida do u live in???
June 21st, 2007 07:14
You guys are getting rain. I’m so jealous! As ImInLoveWithJonathon said, here in Arizona it’s 110+. Of course last week the high was only in the 90’s, but now we’re heating up again. Of course, we don’t have the humidity factor like they have in the rainier parts of the country, but our dust, lightning filled monsoons aren’t that great either.
Oh, and Contact it’s great that you found your sunglasses. Good for you.
June 21st, 2007 17:42
Hi guys!
Hi sarah! I live in San Diego, California. I don’t know, some people hate California, others ADORE it.Um all that I can say, is that I’ve seen all of SAN DIEGO that I can possibly see(16 years worth of exposure).Well over the years, it’s been pretty freaking cold(thanks to global warming). But today it’s extremely humid( I don’t have air conditioning, ugh!)! And yep, you totally need to be emotionally prepared for New Moon, I promise you’ll thank me!
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! Yeah “Wicked” books are totally confusing! Everyone asks me, “Oh is that the one that’s made into the play,” and I honestly don’t know what to tell them. And great encouragement ImInLoveWithJonathan, I’m moving to Arizona next Wednesday( my mom says I’ll be okay w/ air conditioning).
Hi contact! Yay on the sunglasses! Hey I didn’t know that contacts are so expensive(well to me $20), my sister bought these mystic green ones at the mall, I looked at her like she was crazy (I could’ve bought 5 cinnabons w/ that)!
And hi mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation, can you predict the weather for next Wednesday?(Its so wierd/ everytime that I’ve been to Arizona, It’s never been hot).Hey doesn’t it annoying when people ONLY associate Arizona w/ heat?(Even if there’s some truth to that).But I guess I’m ready for the heat/ I’m not a HUGE fan of the rain(rain makes me drowsy and depressed)!
June 21st, 2007 23:23
om my gosh. i am so jealous! i love arizona! you get over the heat eventually. (even fast if you have a pool. tehehehe) i’ve been going there at least once a year for ever. if you allergies (god i can’t spell that) arizona will be good for you. there is practically NO humidity so its a dry heat and doesnt feel like its as hot as it is. i hope you have a great time ther. what pert are you moving to? my grandparents/aunts and uncles live in glendale andthe general area of pheonix.
June 21st, 2007 23:25
and no. wicked (witch/curse) is not the one made into a play. thats wicked by gregory maguire about the wicked witch of the west (read it i tell you! READ IT!) sorry im a tad obsessed. i seem to do that a lot over books. (tehehehe)
June 21st, 2007 23:26
sorry last time. (for now) where did your sister get the color contacts? I wanted to get them for halloween but my dad doesnt know where ican get no-perscription ones. (like for people that dont need glasses.)
June 21st, 2007 23:33
yeah ive been 2 cali 2wice and it was so freakin cold i went 2 san fransisco and it was so cold and im 2 san diego 4 my b-day in august:D
June 22nd, 2007 07:04
Arizona, the dry hot state. Mostly hot only during the summer though. Also, the north part is really great during summer and winter. We are known for the heat, but we have beautiful winters. Also, if you like snow or skiing, during the winter Snowbowl is only a few hours away (if they get snow.) It is slightly annoying that people relate Arizona to heat. There is truth to that, but we have other things. (I think) I guess any place is exciting if you haven’t lived there all your life.
Demensiona you’ll be fine. Just don’t plan to lots of outdoor activities during the summer (unless it has to do with water), and park under shade during the summer, or it will get really hot.
Also, ImInLoveWithJonathon, I have to disagree on the allergies in Arizona part, but I guess it just depends on what your allergic to.
Oh, and I happen to be in the group that loves Cali. Of course, I’ve never actually lived there, so who knows what that would be like. I just visit each summer. I’ve been there like a hundred times. San Diego, Las Angles, Palm Springs, and exspecially, the beach. It is cold, but I like the cold.
Oh, and the weather on Wednesday is supposed to be low: 84 degrees farenheit, high: 110 degrees farenheit. (I checked the seven day forcast thingy) Good luck on your move.
June 22nd, 2007 08:28
the things I’m allergic to (grass, trees, other plants that require a lot of water to grow) don’t grow/live in arizona so for me, it is true. for others , though, i’m sure they don’t get off as easy.
June 22nd, 2007 09:00
Eee, thanks! My photophobia has finally been relieved…I live near West Palm Beach. I’ve never been to Arizona or California, but I love New Mexico. My dad went to college there. The best part is all the open landscape. And no palm trees.
June 22nd, 2007 10:01
thx… i used 2 live in West Palm Beach Contact we live 1 mile from the beach it was SO pretty but we visit every summer lke in july 4 a day
June 22nd, 2007 15:10
Hi! You guys are fawesome!
Thanks ImInLoveWithJonathan! I’m totally pumped up to go now! Um I’m moving to Buckeye, Arizona(I’m not sure if it’s a city or a town). Oh and thanks on Wicked.(I know a lot of people who want to read the ones that the play was based off of/ now I can tell them the ones by GREGORY MCGUIRE)
Oh and my sister and I went to this store called like “Toda Kowdo” or something like that in the mall.Or you can get them from Wal-mart.
Hi sarah!You’re going to San Diego in August? Fawesome! You should go to a Barnes and Nobles to get a copy of Eclipse by Stephenie Meyer(Haha our bookstores are always stocked/don’t ask me why!)! Oh don’t forget to get a burger/vegetarian burger from In and Out(do they have that restaurant in Flordida)!And you should REALLY check out our Bodies Exhibit/ you’ll never look at the human body the same way again(but the tickets are kind of expensive)!
Hi mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation! Haha, I’ve never had outdoor activities in mind! Oh you’re a cali lover? Cool, oh have you been to that one hotel w/ the lake inside in Palm Springs? My aunt said it was fawesome!
And thanks on my move!
Hi contact!I’ve never been to Flordida or New Mexico, nice landscapes huh!Fawesome(oh the “F” thing is from “The Last Days”by of course, Scott Westerfeld)!
Bye guys!
June 23rd, 2007 00:08
yep movin out there
June 23rd, 2007 10:46
Wait! You’re moving to San Diego?!(Which part?!) Oh my gosh, fawesome!Do you know what school you’re going to? Fawesome! Wow!
June 23rd, 2007 10:51
dont no which part but its not offical yet may or may not hope so though
June 23rd, 2007 22:37
i’m back!
cool talent, Contact, but perhaps it needs a better name…
June 24th, 2007 04:53
I knowwwwww….I couldn’t come up with one..Help?
June 24th, 2007 07:20
Hi!
Hi sarah!Please tell me if it’s official!
Hi nick! Long time no HEAR!
Hi contact!Hmm.. maybe we should start w/ a noun: Longevity? Extension? Strainer?
-I don’t know(haha),but I’ll most defintely think on it!
June 24th, 2007 08:27
ill no soon
June 24th, 2007 20:23
Wow. I feel wayyy behind, considering a lot of the posts here were from last year.
But I finished the third book today. I really couldn’t stop reading; It took me about 5 days to read the three of them (Yay for vacation and more time to myself!). So I’d like to start off by saying that I really enjoyed this series! The characters were awesome and I loved seeing their personalities clash/intertwine. Frankly, they were just a really cool group of kids. 
But oh mighty god, the ending… the ending was a killer. I cannot believe Jess is stuck in blue time… alone! Not to mention the fact that “Flyboy” can only be with her 1 hour everyday, and the whole aging thing sucks pretty badly (obviously). The separation of Rex/Melissa is also pretty crappy. So as I was reading, the pages were becoming thinner, and I knew the end of the book soon entailed, but I really did hope I would find some kind of solace to grip. Alas, there really wasn’t anything… it was just, bleh. It had me on the verge of tears. Whyyyyyy?!
I really hope a 4th book is a possiblity because I’d love to see what happens after all this drama. I’d also like to think that Jessica could find her way out, probably with the help of the others, and reunite with Jonathan (crosses fingers). Besides, the ending totally leaves plenty of space for more adventure and drama, right?
June 25th, 2007 02:06
i think all of us want a fourth book 2
June 25th, 2007 07:26
Hi!
Hi Sarah! Okay, soon!And I fotally agree, we ALL want another book!
Hi sweetchock! Yep the ending was TOTALLY a
K I L L E R!And I’m definetely crossing my fingers for Jessica’s release from the dimension, AND another book!
Bye guys!
June 25th, 2007 08:46
yeah i should no by my b-day whichis pretty soon well 2 months but still but seriously how could john live without jess and he only gets 2 c her in blue time
grrrrrr
June 25th, 2007 12:39
Yeah, being stuck in the blue time doesn’t sound too thrilling. It just seems so lonely and desolate… fast-paced too since her friends would be aging so quickly before her. But really, if a 4th book were to be released, I’d be off to the bookstore in no time ready to buy it!
And sweet… I’m Sarah, and there’s another Sarah here. Coooool.
June 25th, 2007 13:03
yeah bein stuck in blue time would suck eatin once a month or year or whatever i dont remember john would only c jess once a day so yeah
ur also sarah sweet thats awesome 
June 25th, 2007 16:50
Hi!
Hey Sarah!On your, birthday?That’s Fool! I don’t know how Jonathan could/can do it. I think my heart went out to Jonathan the most. I mean how could he loose his mother AND Jessica?
June 25th, 2007 16:52
Hi sweetchock! Yeah, I’d/I’ll(haha) be at the bookstore in a heatbeat too! And there seems to be alot of Sarah’s/Sara’s in the world, but that’s fawesome, I love that name!
June 26th, 2007 00:18
yep b-day so i agree i dont think john could do it mother and jess not cool and there r a lot of sarahs/saras in the world which is kind of annoying
June 26th, 2007 02:57
Yep,so not fool!
June 26th, 2007 03:00
(I hate when my whole comment doesn’t post, it’s been doing that alot lately)
-Hey there’s a LOT of Jasmine’s/Jazmin’s…
in the world too which is fotally annoying as well. Why do you think that I go by DEMENSIONA,haha!
June 26th, 2007 03:20
there aren’t that many Kirstens that i know of but there are a few. but i dont know anyone with my name. (Kiersten. with an e)
June 26th, 2007 03:59
im not that stupid demensiona i didnt think ur name was demensiona i no a couple of Jasmine’s/ Jazmin’s and Kirsten’s 2 theyre great friends of mine
June 26th, 2007 05:49
Yeah, I know! There ARE a lot of Sarah’s and Sara’s everywhere! It’s crazy. It’s not a unique name at all, haha, but whatever, I don’t mind.
And I don’t know any Kiersten’s either. It’s cool though, because it makes the name more yours, if you know what I mean.
Definitely are a lot of Jazmin’s, by the way. Not as common as “Sarah” or “Sara,” but still…
June 26th, 2007 05:51
Plus, Thom Yorke (from Radiohead, which is like my favorite band in the world!), likes the name “Sarah.” It’s his favorite name AND it’s the only female name to be used in a Radiohead song. So basically, that name officially rocks.
heh.
June 26th, 2007 07:30
thats awesome ur right its not a unique name at all but yeah it rocks
June 26th, 2007 09:03
My cousin’s name is Sarah. It means “princess”. I don’t know anyone with my name (Elena) but maybe I’ll meet somebody.
To Demensiona: Yeah, that might work. Please think on it!
June 26th, 2007 10:44
i no i have that in my room maybe contact
June 27th, 2007 00:28
my friend’s middle name is elena. (or maybe it was elaine but its one of the two)
June 27th, 2007 08:21
cool oh well i dont really no any of my friends middle names either
June 28th, 2007 13:25
I was very upset about Melissa leaving without Rex. They are my favorite two characters. I almost cried before Westerfeld told us that Jessica WASNT dead she was just trapped in the blue time. HOWEVER, the SADDEST part of the book was when Jessica is explaining to Beth that she was stuck in blue time…I cried my eyes out…I WANT MORE BOOKS ON THE MIDNIGHTERS!
June 28th, 2007 13:39
Ok I just found this site…it is awesome. I was just curious, Scott, are there, or could there be(in the NEAR future) any plans for a movie?
Secondly(to anyone), I read something on Youtube about there already being a t.v. series on the book…Is this true???
THanks for the help, and sorry if u guys have already talked about this.
June 28th, 2007 13:40
Ok I just found this site…it is awesome. I was just curious, Scott, are there, or could there be(in the NEAR future) any plans for a movie?
Secondly(to anyone), I read something on Youtube about there already being a t.v. series on the book…Is this true???
THanks for the help.
June 28th, 2007 18:42
Frist of all, Welcome RexisAHottie. Secondly, the YouTube thing was a fake, but there are plans for a T.V. show, if you look on Scott’s previous posts, and on the CW site you should be able to find more about it.
June 29th, 2007 03:52
RexIsAHottie- welcome! judging by your name, I think you and my friend Tracy would get along nicely. (She like to fight with me that Rex is better than Jonathan. Which you probably think as well.):)
June 29th, 2007 03:56
omg no way!
June 29th, 2007 07:06
hey ImTheEmoSalamander! glad to have you back. (shes the one who i said like rex too)
July 2nd, 2007 04:35
*a tumbleweed blows across the seemingly abandoned midnighters spoiler section*
July 2nd, 2007 08:38
lol ImInLoveWithJonathan
July 2nd, 2007 11:31
Hi guys!!!!!
Hi Sweetchock! Oh my gosh, I LOVE LOVE LOVE RadioHead!!!!!(My favorite song is “Everything in its Right Place”)!
Hi Sarah,oh sorry if I implied that on that earlier comment.(I know that you know that this isn’t my real name.I was commenting in a general joking manner). Hahaha and I second that lol!
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! Yeah Kirsten’s totally unique.One of my friend’s middle name is Nicole (Like mine/except spelled:nEcole), but I don’t really think that that’s REALLY unique.
Hi RexIsAHOTTIE (haha, like the name!)! Yeah the Jessica/Beth part was totally depressing! Yes another book! And yeah there’s SUPPOSED to be a show, but not on that channel(I’m so flusterated w/ the freaking thecw, because they’re airing the GOSSIP GIRLS show this Fall, and where does that leave MIDNIGHTERS?
F L U S T E R A T I N G!)!
Hi mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation! Gee it was hot in Yuma last Tuesday night(hmm it’s still probably hot/I can’t really say on the outskirts of Phoenix, I’ve been inside for a week now, haha)!
Hi ImTheEmoSalamander!
And hi contact! Hmm…
Extension?
Longevity?
Elongatus?
Protractious?
Strainer?
Haha.. I’m not really sure how to really excite things… I mean I think I’m pretty wiped out of midnighter talents(besides the talent that I’m thinking of that enables them to make some sort of weapon dolls), hmm… I’ll think on it!
Bye guys!
July 3rd, 2007 03:03
weapon dolls? you mean something like voodoo? or am i totally off? yeah i asked my mom where they got kiersten from and she said that it was a derivitive (god that must be spelled wrong) of her name. the spelling is insane though. its supposed to be spelled kirsten. who knows where the got the wa they spelled it for me (kiersten) Jasmin/jazmin seems pretty original to me. I’ve never met anyone with that name although i’ve heard of people with that name.
July 3rd, 2007 04:29
Sorry guys, haven’t posted ‘cuz my daddy banned me from the computer for a week…
I can’t pick a talent name gah!!!
July 3rd, 2007 07:25
aw that sucks. banned from the computer? wow. i live on the computer while im at my mom’s house because i know no one here so i would die.
July 3rd, 2007 07:49
thats what i do ImInLoveWithJonathan thats ok demensiona i no that u no that i no that it was a joking manner
July 4th, 2007 09:47
Hi guys!!!(Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan!Voodoo? Wow that’s interesting! Well I wasn’t really THINKING in that direction at the TIME, but maybe I should! Um I was actually thinking of younger midnighters constructing/playing w/ dolls such as Ada Lovelace. But I love this voodoo idea, you I can do a lot w/ that, thanks!
Original?Wow! Well the ironic thing is, I’ve never met anyone w/ the name “Kiersten” either. I mean hence from hearing that name from those American Girl books(but even then the name was spelled differently).
-Wow, I wish my parents had a motive/story behind my naming, my mom simply said that she LIKED the name, nice huh?!
Hi sarah!!! Fawesome! Glad that’s cleared up!!
Hi contact!Well Last week, Cox Cable kind of banned me from the computer! Haha, and I wouldv’e been on a little sooner too, but I got kind of lost in Phoenix yesterday, haha! Yep, my dad’ the KING of navigation, haha!
-But I try to steer away from computers as much as I can(but I usually don’t succeed). Plus, I’m pretty computer challenged,haha!
-And maybe elaborating a little on your talent might help you pick a name contact!
Bye!!
July 4th, 2007 09:51
hey demensiona me 2
July 4th, 2007 11:04
Mmkay I’ll try and elaborate Demensiona!
Anyway…
Contact did a half-fanart! It was inspired by a conversation with my friend a few Saturdays ago. We ended up on the subject of Midnighters because of, well, the crazy heat lightning that happens so often during Florida summers. Every Midnighters quiz I have ever taken has told me I was like Rex, partly because I’m a history lover, partly because I love giving orders and I think nothing can be done well if I don’t do it or at least think it up, and because of my glasses. Unfortunately, my mom doesn’t own a Mary-Kay-Pink Cadillac, and fortunately, my dad is not a brain-dead vegetable created by my best friend(although she does find my dad scary and thinks he has no sense of humor). My friend likes wearing jackets and gloves, doesn’t like being touched or making eye contact, is always pretty grumpy, and usually has music blasting in her ears. We have also been friends since we were eight, and didn’t know each other before that. Remind you of anyone? I know. Pretty scary. So, today, in my long hours of boredom, I did this drawing, or at least lineart, of me and my friend kind of dressed up as Melissa and Rex. Not very well though. Also, there’s a couple of slithers in the corner, because I felt they needed to be there. Plus they wanted to be. I screwed with both of our heights, because my friend is actually almost a foot taller than me, but I don’t think Melissa is taller than Rex. Or at least I hope not. Anyway, here’s the link:
http://www.oekakicentral.com/traininggrounds/pictures/282.jpg
I hope you like it, anyone who is reading this(and Scott, you lurker you)
July 4th, 2007 11:50
contact same my bff and i have been friend since we were eight she is like rex 2 but im like melissa so im told… hate bein touched always listening stuff weird huh ???
July 4th, 2007 17:57
So, Demensiona, you got lost in Phoenix, huh? The light rail constuction has everything messed up down there. The good thing, by what is, 2011 we’ll have an up and running light rail system. Right now, though the whole area is completely torn up. We got lost over there a few weeks ago, and my parents have lived here forever.
I don’t have a friend like Melissa, but I definitely have a Dess. I was over at her house the other day, and she has pi up to the 40th digit as her screen saver. (She has it memorized up to the 70th place) She also has gone through and figured out the exact amount of humans years it would take for a darkling to age a year (23.9869467333333333) Oh, and she’s gone through, and figured out which days are good days (multiples of thirteen or add to thirteen) and bad days (mulitples of twelve) in our calendar today, and in the old calendar when there used to be ten months. She is definitely Dess. I’m more of a Rex with my glasses and love of being in charge.
July 5th, 2007 06:58
Aha, MNO! Rexes unite!
*salutes with glasses*
July 5th, 2007 07:00
Oh, sorry guys, the link turned to junk. Darn people who think I’m stealing my own art. Go to oekakicentral.com in the Training Grounds room, I’m pic #282 if you still want to see it. Again, sorry.
July 5th, 2007 07:10
Or, if you don’t want to look too hard, it’s on my deviantart account, CatsinSummer. Sorry about that. Go back to your normal conversation and pretend I never happened, k?
July 5th, 2007 07:50
Hello!
Hi Sarah! Yay, haha!Yeah I’m more like Melissa too! I hate being touched, and I’m always blasting my earphones w/ music(sometimes noise levels drive me crazy, and I’m claustrophobic)! But I usually don’t listen to METAL though, usually like :Underoath,Evanescence, Mogwai, Radiohead, or Imogen Heap…!
Hi Contact!Okay on the elaboration! And OH MY GOSH!! I LOVE YOUR DRAWING. Wow you’re totally an artist/totally imaginative!But I totally want to shade it or paint it w/ watercolors or use charcoal!Oh and you’re more like Rex? He was 2nd on my midnighter personality quiz, I love history too and leadership!
Hi mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation! Yep, I got lost in Phoenix at NIGHT!How we got from the side streets of Surprise to DOWNTOWN Phoenix/practically GlENDALE, I do not know! Haha my mom still makes jokes about it. And gosh, the moon is freakishly HUGE in Phoenix/Arizona!Oh but FAWESOME on the running light rail system in 2011!
I’ve had a friend who was totally a math wiz like Dess, she kind of looks like the way I picture Dess to look too!And another friend who’s totally like Jonathan/she has like a REALLY fast metabolism. And when one of my older sisters took the midnighters personality quiz, she was more like “Jessica”, which was like completely random, but Jessica WAS her favorite character though. But no, like I’ve said, I’m more like Melissa/plus she’s my favorite character too.
Bye guys!
July 5th, 2007 08:27
what up guys not literally tho and my friends whove read midnighters said im totally like melissa and i listen 2 what u listen 2 weird huh????
July 6th, 2007 07:33
Hi Sarah! Wow like Melissa, fool! And we listen to the same music? Wierd, but fotally fawesome!
July 6th, 2007 08:18
Hey everyone!
I like Dess(not that I’m most like her)but it’s fawesome what she can do with numbers and words!
July 6th, 2007 10:48
hey demensiona exactly like melissa from what i hear from my friends and yeah i listen 2 ur music or what u said at least totally fawesome!!
July 6th, 2007 13:13
the quiz said i’m most like jonathan then dess. dess is my favorite midnighter. i named my betta fish after her. (but she died today *tear*) i like to think of my self as being most like dess, which i am most of the time, but sometimes i have a melissa type attitude toward people.
July 6th, 2007 14:18
Wow, thanks Demensiona!I did that on the computer, in like three hours because I tried to color it. You can try, too, if you want, although I don’t know how.
July 7th, 2007 05:22
Hi!
Hi allichie! I love Dess w/ the trides too!
Hi Sarah! Fotally Fawesome!
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan!Jonathan first? I was starting to believe that the first midnighter on your personality quiz would be your FAVORITE midnighter, but since your favorite midnighter is Dess, then I’m not so sure…
-But then again, I ‘m not sure if ALL of us can say that we have solely ONE favorite midnighter though. Really ALL of the midnighters are my favorite! I think that you can relate to each midnighter in one way or another, and that’s fawesome! I believe that we ALL have a little bit of each midnighter in us.Whether that be personality wise/fears/family situations, etc..!Which is fotally fawesome as well!
And you’re totally welcome Contact! You did that ON the computer?(I thought you took a photograph of it and posted it)! Wow, you must have a VERY steady hand,I’m impressed! I’d love to color it, but even if you knew how to color it, my shaky hand would probably RUIN the piece!Haha!
Bye guys!
July 7th, 2007 08:17
if you would like to be in the scott westerfeld chatroom, im me at dessimetrics13. the chatroom is called ObsessiveRefreshers.
July 7th, 2007 08:50
if you would like to be invited in please go to the first page of extras post and comment w/ your screen name. one of the obsessed refreshers will invite you in.
July 8th, 2007 04:42
Yes, I did do that on the computer..with my tablet, EVIL watercolor lines, and sheer willpower. I’m sure you wouldn’t mess it up…after all, you could just print it out on regular drawing paper and see what happens! (If you do color it, e-mail me a picture please. bellana_elena@hotmail.com)ImInLoveWithJonathan!, R.I.P Dess the beta fish. May you go to the great fishbowl in the sky.
Wearing my contacts today. They’re no fun, I can’t see half the stuff that I can with my glasses. Also, I CAN’T TAKE THEM OFF! Sometimes I can’t (inexplicably) see something with my glasses on, and so…My contacts are evil. Gah.
July 8th, 2007 05:34
Hi!
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! Noted on the Chatroom!
And I’m so sorry about your loss!
Hi Contact! Awesome! I’ll definetely email you the colored product when I get a chance to. Ugh and contacts scare me! One one of my friends accidently fell asleep w/ them on/And I’m guessing that you know what happened. And one of my sister’s friends was wearing contacts when she was opening the oven. The contacts melted onto her eyes, so now she’s legally blind.
- So be careful PLEASE!
Bye!
July 9th, 2007 00:49
its ok. she lived past her life expectancy of about 2 months.
July 10th, 2007 04:32
My friend’s beta fish lived for like six years. I’m not sure if that was Strawberry or blueberry, but oh well…
STOP WITH THE CONTACT HORROR STORIES!!
I bought ‘em for school, so I wouldn’t look like a dork. I’d like to get a better prescription so I can actually SEE though..
Thanks for coloring! I may post it on my deviantart (telling them you colored it of course, I’m not an art thief)to show the finished product, is that okay?
July 10th, 2007 05:49
i didnt mean the actual life expectancy of betta fish. i really have no idea how long that is. its how long everyone thought she would last seeing as how the last time i have fish one died in 3 days, one 3 weeks, and one 3 months. (oddness with the threes.)
July 10th, 2007 06:30
Hi!
Hello ImInLoveWithJonathan!Oh okay on the life expectancy. I don’t know about my fishes’ life expectancy.I havent had a good history w/ fish either. My first batch of fish killed each other. Now most of them are dying off from incest(I guess I should’ve bought all males of females).
Hi contact! Sorry about the contact horror stories! And yep, when I get a chance to color it, then you can definetely post the colored product!
Bye!
July 10th, 2007 07:35
my first fish all killed themselves in the plasic bush. they tried to swim through it.
July 10th, 2007 17:02
I got these three fish for a school project, and the first two lived for like a week. I expected my third to live for only a few weeks, but after it didn’t die after like month I assumed that it would last about as long as my beta fish (six months) I’ve now had it for over a year and a half. We call it the fish that won’t die. Especially because I really don’t have a great record with fish. (I had a fish that died the night I got it)
Oh, and I had to do a report on betas in like the 2nd grade. Life expectancy: a year to three years.
Oh, and I agree with contact to stop on the contact horror stories. I got mine for school too, not to not look like a dork, but because I’ve had glasses forever, and you’re really starting to freak me out.
July 11th, 2007 05:39
aw dess had a short life. she died of some beta fish fungus thing that killed my brothers fish a year ago.
July 11th, 2007 12:22
Contact and fishes, pretty interesting topics! Haha, I love it!
-Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! Yeah those fish props can be lethal. And Dess the Beta fish died of a fish fungus?Wow, I would’ve never guessed.
-Hi Mistranslated Nonelectrical Ornimentation! Sorry about the contact stories! I was freaked out when I heard the stories too!But don’t worry, just remember to take them off at night, and avoid ovens when wearing them!
Bye!
July 12th, 2007 03:31
speaking of contact horror stories, i know before that color contacts were dangerous and the color bled into people’s eyes and it mae them go blind but that was when they first came out. do any of you have color contacts? have they killed your eyes yet? or are they safe?
July 12th, 2007 09:36
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! My sister has contacts of like every color of the rainbow. They haven’t killed her eyes due to the bleeding of dye, but her eyes get pretty irritated. That’s probably because she doesn’t actually NEED contacts, she just wears them as a fashion statement. But hence that, yeah, colored contact to my knowledge, are fairly safe.
Bye!
July 12th, 2007 10:34
ok. thats pretty much what i was going to wear them for too. well mostly costumes. halloween is so my fave holiday. and ive always wanted purple or red eyes. or super green eyes like gemmas in a great and terrible beauty. my eyes now are a green/gray/blue/yellow/multi-colored odd color. i like my eyes but i want to be a peep so i need colorful eyes.
July 12th, 2007 10:35
you said she gets them from walmart right? where at? in the eye doctor type section? they have one of them in my walmart not aure about yours.
July 13th, 2007 11:08
I have bright green eyes most of the time. When I go in the sun too much they turn a freaky kind of red. I’ve been thinking of getting blue contacts… I always wanted blue eyes lol.
July 13th, 2007 11:35
Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan!For costumes?Fool! My sister usually wears super green like Gemma’s, and violet. You want to be a Peep? Fawesome! I’d go w/ green!
I believe they’re in the eye doctor type area like you said(I’m not sure, I didn’t go w/ my sister when she bought her violet contacts from Wal-mart). My eyes are brown like Bella’s!
Hi Alissa!Ooh blue’s pretty!
Bye!
July 13th, 2007 11:51
my eyes are blue
sometimes people tell me that my left eye is kinda greenish(weird huh?)
and Alissa: red!
and ImInLoveWithJonathon: I would go with violet
July 14th, 2007 00:49
i was thinking amber, violet, or red. but now i might be tonks or luna lovegood from hp. i ♥ them.
July 14th, 2007 01:05
jsuk, i change my costume about every other day. my faves so far though are a peep, dess from the midnighters, tally, luna, or tonks. although tommorow i’ll probably i wanna be a mermaid! just kidding.
July 15th, 2007 05:59
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Hi allichie!
Haha, Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! I would go w/ Dess from Midnighters, that would be fotally fawesome!Therefore, I’d go w/ violet, as allichie said!
July 15th, 2007 11:09
i love dess so thats what i was thinking too. plus dess would have lots of fun costume potions i.e. long dark skirts, other semi-goth outfits.
July 15th, 2007 15:55
I love the Dess costume idea. If I end up dressing up for halloween this year I was thinking about doing that. I actually already have an outfit that I call my midnighters outfit: Long black skirt, long sleeved black shirt with a little bit of a lacy pattern on it, knee high black boots, lots of stainless steel jewelery, and my sunglasses. I’ve only worn it once though, for a project a school where we had to create our own government for an island, and I ended up making it a midnighters island (of course my teacher didn’t know that, let’s just say for everyone who broke the laws which included that you had to have read all three midnighters books, you were sent to be eaten by our evil black panthers) I dressed up for the project in my midnighters outfit. Only a few people knew what I was doing, but still it was totally fun.
July 15th, 2007 16:23
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Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! Yeah Dess is fawesome! And add fawesome jewlery to that list!
Hi mistranslated nonelectrical ornimentation! Oh cool, awesome project/sounds FOTALLY fun!
-You know this year I was thinking about going as a person who passes out candy again!Haha!(No I enjoy passing out candy rather than actually going out and retrieving.)
-I know this might sounds wierd but I’m not a big fan of candy/hate chocolate. Crazy right, haha!
-Wouldn’t you think that a person whose birthday is in October would just ADORE Halloween?(Halloween’s okay, but it’s just not my favorite day of the year).
Bye guys!
July 16th, 2007 01:20
i fadore halloween. its so much fun for one night to be someone else and dress up crazy, have purple hair, or have fake blood all over you. also its fawsome to stay up all night pestering people for candy when you have already obviously eaten too much. its my favourite. i have plenty of metal jewlery tha usually wear any way so plenty of necklaces, ringes, bracelets and such are give in for me.
July 17th, 2007 03:13
No clue what I’m going to be this Halloween. Last year I was a spider (my friend was Little Bo Peep) but I was a SUBTLE spider (no legs or anything) so everybody thought I was just Goth or something. I don’t know if I’ll go for a Westerfeldian costume this year, ‘cuz I might have to explain it a billion times and I get really sick of that. I don’t start planning my Halloween costumes too early, because my birthday already encompasses it (October 29, 10 + 29 = 39!!)
July 17th, 2007 04:45
how old are you going to be?
(my birthday: June 28, 6+28=34, uhh…doesn’t work)
July 17th, 2007 05:47
my b-day april 21, 21=4=25. eh at least not 24. have all of you read the harry potter books? or are any of yopu one of the 5 people in the world who hasen’t (one of which is one of my best friends) i’m going to the harry potter midnighter party as luna lovegood. which should be interesting as a am not a blonde and will be dying my hair. i was going to go as tonks by mi padre didnt go for the purple hair bit. *tear* so i am going as luna (who, if i was a fictional character, would probably be me. lol)
July 17th, 2007 06:15
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Hi ImInLoveWithJonathan! That’s fool! My mom fadores Halloween too!Fool, your birthday’s in April, fawesome!
And I’ve only read the Chamber of Secrets
/ironic huh!(I honestly can read fantasy books/ I’m unable to visualize w/o movie aide). But yeah, I have no c