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Scott's Books => Leviathan / Behemoth / Goliath => Topic started by: Kernul on May 29, 2014, 08:12:42 PM

Title: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on May 29, 2014, 08:12:42 PM
I really loved Leviathan Trilogy and now I feel like I can't live without Alek, Deryn, Volger, Barlow and the Leviathan. I think there's a large space for at least two trilogy: One trilogy that continue the adventures of Alek, Deryn and Barlow between the WWI and WWII and a second trilogy that could speak of the WWII, but, maybe, with new characters. I think these would be awesome!
But these are just my hopes. How do you think about it? I hope Scott Westerfeld could read this topic. XD
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Julia The Bookworm on May 30, 2014, 01:11:44 AM
in the afterward to the last book it was heavily implied that World War 2 doesn't happen in that universe and in the manual of aeronautics there is a
picture entitled " The coexistence Treaty of 1914"

See picture here:  http://scottwesterfeld.com/blog/2012/08/the-manual-is-out/
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on May 30, 2014, 01:59:07 AM
The coexistence Treaty of 1916*
And yes, I read it. But what about the job that Dr. Barlow gave to Deryn and Alek in the end? It could lead to other books in the future! Now I am like Alek after he watched the episode "The Perils of Pauline". XD
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on May 30, 2014, 05:12:03 AM
Your both wrong, its the Treaty of 1915.
And as much as I hate to admit it, Westerfeld closed up the end pretty damn good...any sequel would either A) cover the boring life of a boffin's asstaint or B) require some SERIOUS groundshaking changes in the universe. And something tells me that isnt gonna happen.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Julia The Bookworm on May 30, 2014, 05:26:05 AM
I liked the ending.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on May 30, 2014, 09:38:38 PM
Oh right! O:
I liked the ending too. It's just a "selfish wish" to continue reading their adventure, even if they will work as boffin's assistants. XD But thinking about it... Scott didn't say that there will not be a WWII. He just said that the WWI will end in a different way.(Do I remember right? O.o) So, there may be or not a WWII. It all depends to him.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Panzercrappitastica on May 30, 2014, 11:24:35 PM
It's interesting; remarkably similar conversations seem to end up happening with every new Leviathan fan. I guess that's because WWII seems like a logical next step from WWI.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on May 31, 2014, 01:01:39 AM
Despite the fact that the end of Goliath pretty damn well explains that it wouldn't be happening...
Which is sad, because I really wanted to see Germany be obliterated by the Darwinist equivilent of the atom bomb.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on May 31, 2014, 01:50:27 AM
It's interesting; remarkably similar conversations seem to end up happening with every new Leviathan fan. I guess that's because WWII seems like a logical next step from WWI.
Well, you're right. But even if there had be no WWII, I would have prefered a continuation to the story. After I ended the Leviathan series I feel like I was brought there little by little and then... "*kick* Out of our world!". T_T With this I'm not saying that I didn't like the ending but... it's like... I don't know how to explain how I felt it! XD

A little OT question:
Scott Westerfeld is writing a new book, Afterworlds, right? Did you know anything else about it? Like genre, etc.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Julia The Bookworm on May 31, 2014, 02:24:51 AM
it's about this girl who is going off to college and rewriting fantasy novel she wrote in high school.
Afterworlds switches  perspectives between the girl that wrote the book and the girl's story that she wrote.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on May 31, 2014, 07:37:37 AM
Oh okay! Thanks for the info!  :D
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Julia The Bookworm on May 31, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
You're welcome!
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Panzercrappitastica on May 31, 2014, 11:38:04 AM
TRAILER IS HERE. (For Afterworlds, I mean.)
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on May 31, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
(Waves tiny flag of uninterest)
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Panzercrappitastica on May 31, 2014, 02:58:21 PM
It's the Scott Westerfeld forum, you can't expect people not to talk about his new book. (And besides, you made a topic about it earlier.)
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on May 31, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
Never said you couldn't talk about it. Just...not feeling it myself for some reason you know?
(Probably cause its not steampunk...)
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on May 31, 2014, 08:33:39 PM
Oh well! Anyway, I love steampunk too but let's see how well is this book. C:
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 01, 2014, 01:09:40 PM
Fingers crossed right?
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Flashman on June 01, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
Nothing to stop the overthrow of the rotting Tsarist Russia.

Stalin leading a Great Patriotic War vs. The World?
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 01, 2014, 03:30:01 PM
Now THAT is an idea...
(Something I planned for Darwins Fist)
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on June 01, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
I think that the Revolution in Mexico by Villa could be something for the future too.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 02, 2014, 05:12:07 AM
Like the one that was in Goliath?
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on June 02, 2014, 09:52:51 AM
Yes... Uh? Wait, you and Flashman were talking about the sequel, right? Or were you talking about something else? o.o
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 02, 2014, 10:23:16 AM
Im not even sure at this point.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on June 02, 2014, 09:23:56 PM
Well, anyway, I was thinking that for a sequel there should be the Mexican Revolution as one of the points of the book, like the revolution in Istanbul. Or maybe some neutral nations could form an alliance with a Clanker or Darwinist nation, creating new conflicts.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 03, 2014, 01:19:50 AM
The Mexican revolution plays a big part in Goliath. I thought you read it...if not, sorta-spoilers.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on June 03, 2014, 01:41:22 AM
I read Goliath and I remember that the Revolution didn't end in the book. After they meet Pancho Villa they fly away. There's nothing(that I remember) that said the Revolution ended. o.o
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 03, 2014, 01:49:17 AM
Oh you mean further...
Yeah Pancho Villan and his group got eliminated by America's elite fabicated combat unit Darwin's Fist and Villa himself got his head cut off by a bayonete
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Kernul on June 03, 2014, 02:07:14 AM
LOL! You imagination... U_U
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Xeno-SP on June 05, 2014, 05:42:42 PM
Didn't anyone look on Russia and Japan? They possibly might start World War 2, since Germany stands down.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 06, 2014, 11:34:05 PM
That blog post about the virtual reality Leviathan could come to something in the future. Maybe not of a book, but of other sorts of media that expanded the universe.

Maybe. *here's hoping*
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 07, 2014, 04:37:00 AM
I still want an extended-universe video game of it. I know its not likely but it would still be awesome. Get Sledghammer Games to do it.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: GeeBeezy on June 08, 2014, 10:25:04 AM
Kay, first things first, bit less Clanker hating if you please. Despite what some people here believe, the Clankers were not actually the villains, K? Germany was. And even then it was only cause they were understandably peeved that there were people rewriting the DNA of creatures that actually had a place in nature, and leaving them with no purpose other than weapons and communication devices. Not saying that the Darwinists are "Evil" But the hyper industrial polluting the earth phase that the Clankers are going through is something that society eventually realises the implications of and tries to fix. When do you think the Darwinists are gonna stop fabricating beasties? [Spoiler alert, never, because they of course know so much better than those dull witted Clankers!].

Second, I think that a new trilogy would be quite possibly the best thing in the world ever. But I don't think scott should make it the same as the first one, what with a war and all that. What I think that the world needs is an enemy that threatens both Clankers and Darwinists, but also sets them against each other to a certain degree. The answer in my opinion?

Luddites.

Anti Darwinist and anti Clanker, but they could have covert groups in each nation trying to set one against the other, e.g. clanker group protesting against "Godless abominations" while Darwinist groups protest against the "Primitive, untrustworthy clankers [that are plotting against them of course]". Also, as they fight against all technology, this would force them to wage a clandestine war, sneaking around behind the scenes across the entire world, sabotaging a demonstration for a new, cleaner Clanker engine perhaps? Or setting a dangerous new Beastie free at its first public appearance? Or maybe even bombing a biofuel initiative between both sides? Fighting an enemy like that would require covert operatives with experience in international espionage [and multi lingual] operatives like, say, DALEK!? And they would of course need some way to get around the world quickly to respond to Luddite aggresion, say, an AIRSHIP?! And of course, they would want to present a picture of unity between Clankers and Darwinists, so maybe they would take the only Darwinist airship with Clanker engines?! And as they would be using a combination of technologies, would it really be that strange to imagine them setting up base in an apartment in Japan? The only nation to harmoniously use both technologies?

Well, that would just make my nerdy little day!  ;D
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Panzercrappitastica on June 08, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
That would make my nerdy day as well XD
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: GeeBeezy on June 08, 2014, 12:23:33 PM
*Offers high five*
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Panzercrappitastica on June 08, 2014, 12:26:05 PM
*high fives*
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Straif on June 08, 2014, 01:26:08 PM
Now that sounds mad legit!
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: FirelordAzula on June 10, 2014, 12:09:07 AM
I would love to read that! Nerdy happy days for all!
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Thomas67 on September 24, 2014, 10:51:38 AM
They could make a series about Alek and Deryn in the Zoologist society...hopefully :)
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: GeeBeezy on October 19, 2014, 06:23:58 PM
Fighting LUDDITES!  ;D

Also, WELCOME BROTHA!
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Ominethious on April 30, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
What I think is that it COULD still be a possibility of a WW2. Probably not the same countries, and reasons. However a war non the less. Even though the economy didn't crash, and the Treaty of Versailles didn't exist, we still have people like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and others. Possibly Hitler still gets pissed that German pride was ruined at the hands of an little boy, and forms the small Nazi group to try and rebel against Whilliam II. Possibly, he succeeds, or he fails like he did in real history. Or he cripples the German gov. and causes collapse. This could allow his successors, or himself to take power. As for the Treaty of Coexistence, treaties are often broken, or bent. Look at the Treaty of Versailles. The Removal act, and etc. What if, just what if, the Coexistence treaty is stamped out later on by a change in rulers in governments. I do not think it is a impossibility for Scott to do it. It is that he does not want the series to continue..
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Ominethious on April 30, 2015, 05:30:28 AM
Hell, even a "Holocaust" against Darwanists, or clankers is logical! C'mon Scott, if you want to get ideas, consult with us!
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: GeeBeezy on April 30, 2015, 11:39:07 AM
Ikr? Welcome btw
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Ominethious on April 30, 2015, 11:47:43 PM
Ikr? Welcome btw

Thx, what was your opinion on the fact of a sequel?
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: GeeBeezy on May 01, 2015, 10:09:36 AM
Honestly I just want more Dalek, like I said in the post before. WWII isn't an option tho. Scott has confirmed that it doesn't happen in his universe.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Ominethious on May 01, 2015, 10:38:24 PM
Honestly I just want more Dalek, like I said in the post before. WWII isn't an option tho. Scott has confirmed that it doesn't happen in his universe.

Then we could obviously assume SOME kind of conflict has to happen in order for the story to continue. If not WWII, then a separate kind of war. The Spy war. As was said, the only competition would be in technological differences.
Title: Re: About a sequel trilogy...
Post by: Chairlegs on May 02, 2015, 01:52:06 PM
A war between 'The zoological society' and 'Hydra'?
XD