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Scott's Books => Leviathan / Behemoth / Goliath => Topic started by: MidKnight105 on October 29, 2011, 09:00:50 AM

Title: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: MidKnight105 on October 29, 2011, 09:00:50 AM
WARNING POSSIBLE SPOILERS

Is Lilit in Goliath? I really liked her character so I hope she is.
In Behemoth, did Lilit know Deryn was a girl when she kissed her? It seem that way I just want to make sure.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and hopefully answering :D

Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: tridecagirl on October 29, 2011, 09:01:40 AM
1. Yes, but very briefly. Tis sad, because I love her too. :(

2. Indeed. :D SHe's canon lesbian.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: MidKnight105 on October 29, 2011, 09:04:44 AM
Well at least she in there. lol
I thought so :D
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: NikolaTesla on October 29, 2011, 09:19:20 AM
Hello newbie and yes Lilit is there briefly, as previously mentioned and on scotts site and in the book Goliath it says that she is a lesbian
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: tridecagirl on October 29, 2011, 09:28:30 AM
It doesn't say it in the book, specifically. Scott said it here, though.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: FlowerofIce on October 29, 2011, 10:06:33 AM
he said that lilit is a lesbian or bisexual
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Miss Lucy on October 29, 2011, 10:32:47 AM
1. Yes, 2. She seems to be anachronistically blase about that, but yes. Also, spoilers, Deryn+Lilit=movie date. -- SUCH a cute scene! ;D
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: One Person on October 29, 2011, 10:36:20 AM
I tried to like Lilit. A strong Feminist...better if she has short hair.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: tridecagirl on October 29, 2011, 10:55:42 AM
What does hair length matter?
Besides, girls usually didn't cut their hair back then. Kind of a taboo.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: One Person on October 29, 2011, 11:13:22 AM
What does hair length matter?
Besides, girls usually didn't cut their hair back then. Kind of a taboo.
Pfft...screw part of the Bible and the laws against women...anyway, Lilit's fate is unknown in the end, but let's just hope she is part of a Feminist movement that change history in their own universe...I think she'll be a useful leader against the fascist germans in the future...
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Miss Lucy on October 29, 2011, 11:14:18 AM
I tried to like Lilit, too. She's an intrepid character, not just a character who is intrepid but Scott was brave to write her into the story. She's brave, witty, cool, a good listener-- but somehow it all came off to me as so carefully constructed that I just somehow felt that this anarchist bisexual mecha pilot hottie was... bland. Am I crazy?
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: One Person on October 29, 2011, 11:17:11 AM
I tried to like Lilit, too. She's an intrepid character, not just a character who is intrepid but Scott was brave to write her into the story. She's brave, witty, cool, a good listener-- but somehow it all came off to me as so carefully constructed that I just somehow felt that this anarchist bisexual mecha pilot hottie was... bland. Am I crazy?
She could have been good with a short hair.......anyway, I am happy she, like Deryn, is not one of the female heroes who "fight while almost naked" because some damned men like some of the Japanese like that.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: tridecagirl on October 29, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
I tried to like Lilit, too. She's an intrepid character, not just a character who is intrepid but Scott was brave to write her into the story. She's brave, witty, cool, a good listener-- but somehow it all came off to me as so carefully constructed that I just somehow felt that this anarchist bisexual mecha pilot hottie was... bland. Am I crazy?

I don't know. I liked her. I liked how Alek was talking with Zaven and she's all "I should have been allowed to kill him." XD
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: MismatchedSocks on October 29, 2011, 11:50:33 AM
I loved when she said that!!  That's probably my favorite line of hers.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: tridecagirl on October 29, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
We've all had our moments of wanting to kill Alek.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: One Person on October 29, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
We've all had our moments of wanting to kill Alek.
Kill Alek...what's with people wanting to kill Alek?
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: tridecagirl on October 29, 2011, 12:44:44 PM
He's a douche sometimes

And I quote - "Is that how real soldiers cry?"
                    "He was glad Deryn had followed him - not because he could talk to her, but so he could walk away again."
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: One Person on October 29, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
He's a douche sometimes

And I quote - "Is that how real soldiers cry?"
                    "He was glad Deryn had followed him - not because he could talk to her, but so he could walk away again."
............Yeah, deserve a good and PAINFUL punch!.....you can kill him....
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: MismatchedSocks on October 29, 2011, 12:54:06 PM
No! He apologized! I think everyone wanted to punch him then, though.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: One Person on October 29, 2011, 12:54:48 PM
No! He apologized! I think everyone wanted to punch him then, though.
Yeah...let the other fangirls decide.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Seven on October 29, 2011, 01:24:56 PM
Honestly, none of the things Alek said really bothered me definitely not to the point of wanting to hurt him. A lot of the other characters annoyed me more than he did. So when he said some of those things they really didn't trouble me. Or if they did, only for a split second and most of it was just disappointed. I always feel as though Alek gets the short end of the stick.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: alekmakeshappiness on October 29, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Alek: STOP HAING ON ALEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: MismatchedSocks on October 29, 2011, 01:33:07 PM
Even though he made me mad, I can understand him. I mean, if one of my friends hid a secret that big, I would be pretty mad.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: alekmakeshappiness on October 29, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Alek: same!!!!  Wait, what?
MeIRL: he so friggin cool!!!!!!
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Ghost44 on October 29, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
Honestly, none of the things Alek said really bothered me definitely not to the point of wanting to hurt him. A lot of the other characters annoyed me more than he did. So when he said some of those things they really didn't trouble me. Or if they did, only for a split second and most of it was just disappointed. I always feel as though Alek gets the short end of the stick.
I completely agree with this. Alek has gone through so much shit (is profanity allowed here, I feel like I have sworn too much). And most of his douche-like comments he has had a good reason to make. And to be honest, they really are not that bad. I am sure everyone of you have said something hurtful to a friend when you got mad/upset/distressed, but did they then turn around punch you? Despite some of Alek's snottiness (for lack of a better word), he is still a very good guy in the book. And he is much better than Volger and Barlow.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Dinosaurs-in-Airplanes on October 30, 2011, 09:08:59 AM
No! He apologized! I think everyone wanted to punch him then, though.



I wanted to puch him but then he apologized but I was still mad at him
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Lightning4 on October 30, 2011, 11:59:20 AM
Even though he made me mad, I can understand him. I mean, if one of my friends hid a secret that big, I would be pretty mad.
I agree. However, I don't think that he should have started thinking completely differently of Deryn, just because she was a girl.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: JLIGHTNING on October 30, 2011, 12:18:47 PM
I wondered that too... I mean, well, ehhhhh, ya beter sit down for this.

So, ya know how Alek had always made a big deal out of being able to trust his 'allies'? Well, taking that in mind, I

believe he was angered that Deryn did not tell him that, so, he thought she thought she couldn't trust him, which leads

us back to the 'trusting my 'allies" thing, factoring in that he was mad he had told her HIS secrets, and considering the

general notion of teens to get mad and stay mad, that adds up to and angry prince. Though, I do agree it seems a bit

much to get THAT mad.
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: FlowerofIce on November 04, 2011, 05:42:01 PM
Alek is a all round pretty good guy he just has his jerk moments
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Ghost44 on November 04, 2011, 06:10:53 PM
Alek is a all round pretty good guy he just has his jerk moments
Just like every guy in the history of everything haha
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: FlowerofIce on November 05, 2011, 07:25:33 PM
Alek is a all round pretty good guy he just has his jerk moments
Just like every guy in the history of everything haha
lolol well then he more of a nice guy than most jerks
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: Awesomesauce on November 06, 2011, 01:09:24 AM
I love Alek! But he does have jerk moments. Because he's Alek. Thats how he rolls.
Lormi- Mooooommeeeeeennnnntttssssss lol
Clara- Oh dear god....
Lormi- Deeeeaaaarrrrr lol
Clara- STOP LEARNING WORDS
Lormi- Leeeeaaaarrrrnniiiing lol
Clara- *facepalm*
Title: Re: Just a couple quick questions
Post by: JLIGHTNING on November 06, 2011, 12:13:31 PM
Take that to bloodbath. It would be much appreciated there.