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Title: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 05, 2012, 10:16:58 AM
Ever feel like you're the only one who DOESN'T like a book series? Story of my life. Here's a place to vent. Even if people don't agree with your tastes, we'll make a pact not to go "OMG NOEZ SRSLY IT"S SO GOOD U JST DIDN"T GET IT!!11111111111" or similar messages.

On that note, my unpopular opinions:

Dislikes:

Inheritance Cycle - I'm not sure *why* people like this one. The writing is poor - good for a teen, but not published book quality - and the plot is horribly derivative. Look at the plot for the first Star Wars movie. Look at Eragon. ... 'Nuf said. Plus, the kid's a Gary Stu with a potential sociopathic personality disorder.

Gone - Eh, I've only read the first one, so maybe they get better. However, I think decent editing could have made this book shorter and more compact. Also, it sacrifices any character development (again, at least in the first one, but with the amount of pages you should get some) in exchange for plot twists every few pages.

Mortal Instruments - Sorry, but I'm very over 'normal girl finds out she's SUPER SPECIAL and all the boys want her and she has to save the world with the hot guy' plot.


What books do you guys feel alone in your distaste for?


Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 05, 2012, 10:24:40 AM
*eye twitch*
I'll be faithful to Gone no matter what. keep reading Deca.

I feel this way about Hunger Games. strongly.
I really enjoyed the first book....but as the series goes on...i just don't connect with any of the characters (I like finnick...but that's as far as it goes. he's an entertaining charrie. that's it)

Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 05, 2012, 10:28:15 AM
Fine, I'll say it, I really didn't like Uglies all that much It was bad, but it wasn't the best book around.  And I couldn't even finish Peeps

Eragon. I just don't like it, it does clock for me. . .
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 05, 2012, 10:31:33 AM
*eye twitch*
I'll be faithful to Gone no matter what. keep reading Deca.


I don't have enough time to devote to that long of a book series I don't like. :/
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 05, 2012, 10:34:28 AM
hhmm yes. good point.

Well, other than Hunger games (and...the obvious Twilight) I don't have beef with anything else.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 05, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
Ooh, Twilight, aye. But that's not really unpopular. There's a devoted group of haters.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 05, 2012, 10:45:27 AM
ahahhaha i know :P (however....i hated it from the begining :P)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 05, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
The grammar errors. *shudders*
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Post by: kristina-la on May 05, 2012, 10:52:17 AM
hahaha. I couldn't get past the second book. I think...they are hiding somewhere in my house. (the onyl book I feel tempted to burn when I go camping....)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 05, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
I feel the same way about the Inheritance Cycle as you do Deca. I read the first one(well almost all the way through but I quit). It was poorly written and boring. And a total Star Wars rip off. It might have been you who I found that out from before where you pointed several similarities. I also wasn't THRILLED by Mortal Instruments. It was alright but eh . . .my favorite character was Isabelle and she is underplayed.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 05, 2012, 12:37:30 PM
At last, a place I can vent. Okay, here we go;

Twilight: Goes with out saying. Duh. But I dislike it because it miss-shows Forks, which I have actually been to and lived in for several weeks. And Bella is obviously Myer's younger girl self brought to character life.

Inheritance Cycle: Tridcagirl nailed it on the head. It's midvile Star Wars. And Ergaon is obviously Paoleni's self insert. I feel ashamed to share the same first name with him.

Mortal Instruments: Haven't read much of it, but I don't really like fantasy, also, one of the books shares a title with a much more superior steampunk book that no one knows of.

Hunger Games: Probably more of a personal thing because I know about the military and stuff. But really, kids killing each other for entertainment isn't exactly a new idea. Also, I hate how it's getting so much attention while other, better books (pretty much anything by the man who hosts this site) languish in obscurity. And it didn't even have the dignity to burn out like the Golden Compass did. What do I have to do to stop it, kill Everdeen with my bare hands?

Maximum Ride: This one really hurts. Patterson could have done SO MUCH with this series...and he squandered it. And, of course, the main character can't go four seconds without snarking even when she's not in danger.

So...once again, what everyone else on here hates.

Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 05, 2012, 01:18:24 PM
Ooh Maximum Ride is a tough one. THE FIRST THREE BOOKS ARE SACRED!!!! After that it went downhill but came back up a bit on the last 2 books, but, yes, it has been squandered.

About the Hunger Games . . .I don't like ragging on things just because of a similar idea or concept. There really aren't any original concepts after a certain amount of time. Although I think Battle Royale is far superior to Hunger Games.

Leviathan: I know it's a Westerfeld book, but I just didn't get what made it so HUGE. It was kind of lagg-ish to me when I was reading it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 05, 2012, 01:26:55 PM
Huh. I didn't really like the first three. Although I did like to think that, should someone create fabricated humans, they'd look something like Max's flock.

Battle Royale was incredible. And yes, I actually know of what you speak.

As for Leviathan, yeah, it's not for everyone. Your consensus is actually pretty common. It certainly didn't sell as well as hoped, or Scott-la would have done an Extra's and pulled a fourth book out of nowhere. Also, Goliath really dragged. And there wasn't nearly enough Germans being eaten by tiny flying sharks.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 05, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
ah leviathan. yeah...I'm still not sure what I think about it. I mean...it was an enjoyable read...but not OMR!

Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 05, 2012, 03:37:58 PM
Again a shared oppinion.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 05, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
Yeah, I couldn't get into Leviathan either. The first book was okay, but I still found it kind of... meh. Same with Fallen by Lauren Kate. I still haven't finished it :I
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 05, 2012, 03:48:37 PM
Fallen. Ugh. I still don't understand what's so good about it. It's really quite horrible. It's so boring! Needs more action.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 05, 2012, 03:49:21 PM
Haven't read that one. Don't think I will, if you think its bad.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 05, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
I bought Fallen over a year ago, because I had a bunch of people recommend it to me, and I'm not even half way through it yet :p
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 05, 2012, 04:06:45 PM
The first one wasn't great...but it was ok. The second one was the last nail in the coffin. It had like no plot line. Nothing happened!
The third...was alright. A bit better but still really predictable
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 06, 2012, 01:37:15 AM
Fallen. ARGH It was Twilight and it didn't even try to not be obvious.

Girl moves to new school, some guy starts shooting her dirty looks. Other guy is perfectly nice to her, but she likes broody dude because I have no clue - she likes abusive relationships? Turns out that there are two races of angels fighting, and broody dude feels super protective of her and they're in love in two seconds. It's awful.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 06, 2012, 02:30:21 AM
It is awful. I mean-it's better than twilight (because at least angels were not ruined completely like twilight) but it still sucks and I don't even want to spend money on the next one...but I will because I like finishing things (except twilight. I will never finish)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 06, 2012, 02:40:08 AM
Huh. I didn't really like the first three. Although I did like to think that, should someone create fabricated humans, they'd look something like Max's flock.

Battle Royale was incredible. And yes, I actually know of what you speak.

As for Leviathan, yeah, it's not for everyone. Your consensus is actually pretty common. It certainly didn't sell as well as hoped, or Scott-la would have done an Extra's and pulled a fourth book out of nowhere. Also, Goliath really dragged. And there wasn't nearly enough Germans being eaten by tiny flying sharks.

Goliath was dragged? I find it was too short to just conclude it this way, and the ending was rushed, despite it being over 500 pages, and my friends kept doing the "So hardcore" meme when they saw such a thick book. XD

But yeah, i'm probably the only one who finds it rushed.  :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 06, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
No, the size was fine. I actually had to read for a whole day to finish it. The story was the drag for me. I went into the book expecting to see glorious, horrendus battles between Clankers and Darwinists. WWI in our world was bad; having giant mechs and possibly flying sharks would make it even worse.
Instead; teen angst. And lots of it. That was the drag for me. Too much talking, not enough fighting.

And no, you are not the only one who finds it rushed. I do, my girlfriend does (and raged so at Westerfeld when he came to Seattle, in character, none the less) and a lot of the other fans of the series do as well.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 06, 2012, 04:02:36 AM
lol WWI was bad because they were all stuck in trenches. there wasn't that many epic battles. it was a stalemate....hense the trenches.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 06, 2012, 04:21:47 AM
Ah, that's a misconseption; the trenches were only on the Western Front, and even then it wasn't for a huge amount of time. Elsewhere in Europe there were actual battles. And, really, you think trenches would stand for very long if one side has walkers and the other...I don't know, some kind of giant fabricated worm-thing that could eat through them?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 06, 2012, 12:51:54 PM
No, the size was fine. I actually had to read for a whole day to finish it. The story was the drag for me. I went into the book expecting to see glorious, horrendus battles between Clankers and Darwinists. WWI in our world was bad; having giant mechs and possibly flying sharks would make it even worse.
Instead; teen angst. And lots of it. That was the drag for me. Too much talking, not enough fighting.

And no, you are not the only one who finds it rushed. I do, my girlfriend does (and raged so at Westerfeld when he came to Seattle, in character, none the less) and a lot of the other fans of the series do as well.

I took over a week and a half to complete Goliath, I was kinda reading slow on purpose... like I do with good books. Plus, it feels like you've been ripped off your money when you complete a book in a day, like how I read my Dan Brown novels. XD
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 06, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 06, 2012, 02:01:29 PM
lol. Im just weary about the war he picked. I mean. I get that he liked wwi (I love learning about it too. it's far more interesting that wwii...for me) but I think WWII would have made a better setting somehow for clanker vs beaties.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 06, 2012, 02:14:28 PM
I agree heartily. WWII was much bigger. The Pacific theatre, for example. Kamikazi Japanese soldiers with living bombs, anyone? American living flame throwers? The Darwinist equivililent of the atomic bomb? Awesome.
Though something tells me Westefeld wouldn't have made it into a real war if he'd chosen WWII. He cut out most of the actual WWI (which pisses me off to no end).
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 06, 2012, 02:16:50 PM
yeah. I was hoping for more...but I guess he had too...considering it was kinda slow going.

most of WWI that I know of is the canadian battles (Vimmy Ridge :). what a proud canadian moment and passchendaele...not so much...)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 06, 2012, 02:25:55 PM
Lol Passchendaele. :p We're watching the movie in history. I really can't stand it... Anyway, I found a parody book of the Hunger Games called 'Hunger Pains' or something like that. Has anyone read it? I was going to buy it, but decided against it...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 06, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
bahhahahahah I love that movie :P it's so funny! (I knwo that sounds bad but...it really is funny :P)

I like when the kid runs across no mans land and jumps into the german trench kill some germans :P ahahah idiot.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 06, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
And then they 'crucify' him :p That kid is such an idiot. xD The whole movie is just bad :p
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Post by: kristina-la on May 06, 2012, 02:41:47 PM
ahahahah I know right :P ahhaah so dumb.
but I got a good chuckle in class. :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 06, 2012, 03:22:09 PM
Haven't seen the movie, but I can just imagien it. Oh yes, go run straight at the trench full of Germans who may or may not have a Maxim and/or far superior machine gun...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 06, 2012, 04:01:47 PM
It made me laugh harder because the actor is in life with Derek :p
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 06, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
lol. Im just weary about the war he picked. I mean. I get that he liked wwi (I love learning about it too. it's far more interesting that wwii...for me) but I think WWII would have made a better setting somehow for clanker vs beaties.

Probably to keep it within the "generally accepted" steampunk age. WWII would be too close to our present time to have that steampunkish feel.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 06, 2012, 04:18:40 PM
Steampunk=Victorian era, mostly.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 06, 2012, 04:22:47 PM
Steampunk can take place at any time, really, so long as the technology within the story stays relatively the same (everything is powered by steam, clockwork and some electricity) :p It's just mostly Victorian because that's the easiest and most recognized. :p
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: SecretAgentCaboose on May 06, 2012, 04:25:22 PM
I don't understand how people like Twilight.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 06, 2012, 04:34:48 PM
I don't understand how people like Twilight.

(http://ct.fra.bz/i48/5/2/6/f_c16e14ecca.jpg)

You mean there are people who LIKE Twilight?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Beth-la on May 06, 2012, 10:11:48 PM
I want that dog.


Ahaha. I don't really have problems with books. They're how I view music: some people like certain books, and hate others. I try not to judge.

But for the record...I thought Evermore by Alyson Noel was a waste of time. It was almost like a remake of Twilight...but worse.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 06, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
lol. Im just weary about the war he picked. I mean. I get that he liked wwi (I love learning about it too. it's far more interesting that wwii...for me) but I think WWII would have made a better setting somehow for clanker vs beaties.

He talked about it on his blog or something somewhere. Apparently WWI was the absolute furthest he could stretch it. Also, he got the idea from losing a parent and feeling like your world falls apart, which is where Alek's story came from.

Lol Passchendaele. :p We're watching the movie in history. I really can't stand it... Anyway, I found a parody book of the Hunger Games called 'Hunger Pains' or something like that. Has anyone read it? I was going to buy it, but decided against it...

I saw that, and I'm still not sure if it's legal.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Allie-wa<3 on May 06, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
I want that dog.


Ahaha. I don't really have problems with books. They're how I view music: some people like certain books, and hate others. I try not to judge.

But for the record...I thought Evermore by Alyson Noel was a waste of time. It was almost like a remake of Twilight...but worse.
I agree Beth. I stopped after Blue Moon. I met the author though. cx

The Eleventh Plague- The title's The Eleventh Plague, so you'd thinkthe book would be about the eleventh plague, right? It wasn't. The book looked so good and by the summary on the back it seemed like a good book, but nothing really happened til over halfway through the book. The characters bored me, the plot bored me, and ugh, it just wasn't a good book.

So Yesterday- I love Scott and all, but So Yesterday really bored me.

Leviathan- Again, I love Scott, but Levithan just didn't interest me at all. Too much history.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 06, 2012, 11:46:44 PM
Leviathan was the 1st non-Transformer book I've bought for over 4 years... The last book i've bought was some of Dan Brown's back in 2009... It was also the only series I went through the trouble of getting the 1st edition hard cover for (the ONLY other hardcover book i own is Transformers: Exodus)

On top of that, I searched my whole country, only to find they have it only in softcover format, so i had to import all 3 Leviathan books from the US. ( I live in Asia).

That should tell you what I think of Leviathan.  ;D
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Post by: tridecagirl on May 07, 2012, 12:23:32 AM
Dan Brown... *shakes head* Eurgh. No talent at all.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 07, 2012, 01:38:11 AM
Lol deca. Yes-I know he talked about it :p I've been to three of his book signings :p I have his speel like memorized :p it's the same thing every time (almost)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 07, 2012, 01:53:05 AM
Dan Brown... *shakes head* Eurgh. No talent at all.

Eh, I like it, but then again it's not for everyone. And people's views and preferences differ...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 07, 2012, 02:30:49 AM
I do not like that man >: (
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Post by: Straif on May 07, 2012, 03:25:59 AM
Not a huge Dan Brown fan either.
And actually, I didn't like So Yesterday either. Or Peeps and the sequels, actually. I don't like fantasy/magic much. Uglies and Leviathan are my go-to WesterBooks. And even on that subject there's SO MUCH he could have done with them. But of course they were writen for the main-stream crowd, not the military-obsessed-scienctific-history-gamer-nuts.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 07, 2012, 04:52:03 AM
Dan Brown... it's just bad writing, pure and simple.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 07, 2012, 05:19:50 AM
I enjoyed Peeps. Scott is one of the few people to actually make vampires original.
I don't get what the commotion is about the Fifty Shades of Grey. It's just ANOTHER book about a girl/woman falling for a "mysterious" guy. It's the Twilight formula except they don't cut the sex out. So it's really True Blood minus the vampires.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 07, 2012, 05:50:33 AM
I love peeps! It's so amazing! Parasites are so flippin awesome
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Post by: Straif on May 07, 2012, 11:40:59 AM
I enjoyed Peeps. Scott is one of the few people to actually make vampires original.
I don't get what the commotion is about the Fifty Shades of Grey. It's just ANOTHER book about a girl/woman falling for a "mysterious" guy. It's the Twilight formula except they don't cut the sex out. So it's really True Blood minus the vampires.
Sorta like the Anita Blake books then...except AB is actually cool. And it has wereleoaperds and wereSWANS. Yes, seriously.
And on vampires; I really don't like them. The hell if I know why. Though if Westerfeld managed to make them interseting, I might give Peeps another shot.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 07, 2012, 12:55:16 PM
Peeps is one of the best vampire books. It isn't even really about vampirism either, not in the sense most people think about it anyway. Hehe wereswans. Yeah, true blood has werepanthers and even an owl I think. But that's beside the point. So have any of you actually read Fifty Shades of Grey? I just want to learn more about it. From what I've read about it, it's just a sex book.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 07, 2012, 01:05:23 PM
Well now I really must read Peeps. And yes, wereswans. No idea how that works.
and no, I haven't read Fifty Shades of Grey, but I may try it out of boredom. No clue what it's about. To Wikipedia.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 07, 2012, 01:06:42 PM
"Fifty Shades of Grey is New York Times #1 bestselling erotic fiction paperback". That's the opening of the Wiki artical. That answer your question?
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Post by: Straif on May 07, 2012, 01:09:40 PM
Also from said page:
"The Fifty Shades Trilogy was developed from a Twilight fanfiction originally entitled Master of the Universe and published episodically on fanfiction websites under the penname "Snowqueen's Icedragon". The piece featured characters named after Stephenie Meyer's characters in Twilight, Edward Cullen and Bella Swan. After comments concerning the sexual nature of the material, James removed the story from the fanfiction websites and published it on her own website, FiftyShades.com. Later she decided to rewrite Master of the Universe as an original piece with the principal characters renamed Christian Grey and Anastasia Steele and shortly prior to its publication withdrew the fanfiction version from her website."

Now THIS is interseting. Who knew Twilight fanfiction could actually amount to anything but groan-worthy work?
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Post by: Seth-la on May 07, 2012, 01:20:45 PM
WOW!!!!! I can't believe I had an accurate description of that! So it is Twilight but with the sex and no vampires.
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Post by: Straif on May 07, 2012, 01:25:49 PM
More or less, yes. Also, I read a small section of it. If you value your sanity and your last meal, don't look into it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 07, 2012, 01:40:02 PM
I didn't really plan on reading it, I just kept hearing about it.
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Post by: Straif on May 07, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Well now you know all you need to know.
Oh, another book that I don't really like but everyone else seems to; Night, by Eli Weisle. It's a "classic" (read; a book you're given in your high school LA class, along with 1984 and Animal Farm, maybe Fahrenheit 451), and it an autobiography of a guy in a WWII concentration camp. My teacher said it made her cry. I read it, and I couldn't get anything from it but the feeling the guy was griping.
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Post by: Shax on May 07, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
EVERYTHING IS GETTING SO PREDICTABLE..AND YOU CANT PUBLISH ANYTHING WITHOUT BEING CALLED FOR COPYRIGHT
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 08, 2012, 12:40:16 AM
Pretty muchly.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 08, 2012, 03:13:09 AM
Yeah. Everything is predictable. That's why I loved maze runner so much
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 08, 2012, 04:55:37 AM
I would think something that has mazes would be unpredicatble. Thats the whole point of a maze. Also, anything by Philip Reeve is good.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 08, 2012, 08:47:28 AM
The maze is only in the first book, but the series stays unpredictable even after that! The characters are unpredictable(which is a rare thing in books)
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Post by: kristina-la on May 08, 2012, 08:51:29 AM
it was unpredictable until the last sentence :P
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Post by: tridecagirl on May 08, 2012, 08:53:50 AM
it was unpredictable until the last sentence :P

*narrows eyes* Is this a challenge?

(I have a tendency to call almost everything in books. It's ridiculous.)
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Post by: Seth-la on May 08, 2012, 08:55:01 AM
The last sentence of Death Cure? It was brilliant!
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Post by: kristina-la on May 08, 2012, 08:58:42 AM
lol I don';t even remember it :P
Im just making a point that...I couldn't predict anthing until the end :P

Deca. read it. I tried predicting...but I couldn't. it was just oo out there.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 08, 2012, 09:12:33 AM
It really is great about keeping you clueless.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 08, 2012, 09:16:42 AM
:) i want another book like that! also...I just love Thomas.
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Post by: Straif on May 08, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
Is this real unpredictability, or psudo-unpredictability?
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Post by: Seth-la on May 08, 2012, 11:01:55 AM
You legitimately don't know what will happen.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 08, 2012, 11:05:04 AM
I am sometimes amazed at the level of psychoness authors have when writing :p
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Post by: Seth-la on May 08, 2012, 11:06:47 AM
Yeah, when I wrote that short story for Figment I felt like I was going off the edge a little, I can't imagine a whole series of crazy.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 08, 2012, 11:32:38 AM
that's pretty much what maze runner and Gone are :P

lol some of my rps have gotten out of hand. I need to tone down the crazy
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 08, 2012, 11:36:23 AM
RPs can get kinda funky.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 08, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
yeah...the ones im in go past that :P

having babies in rps may not be very uncommon now...but a year and a half ago (2 years?) it never happened. in the Leviathan rp (first rp to hit 800 pages) our charries were the first to have babies and get married :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 08, 2012, 11:48:40 AM
Gag worthy? Damn. I don't RP much, so I've never had that happen. In a Halo one that's gone way out of canon and into WTF territory though.

On that subject, and related to the unpopular portion of this post; am I the only one who thinks Deryn wouldn't get married and/or pregenant within a decade of the end of the war? A lot of people (fanfic writers, at least) seem to think it goes "Goliath-marrage-Deryn starts squeezing out Alek's kids". Or they skip the marriage part all together.
Come on; this is DERYN we're talking about her, people.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 09, 2012, 07:24:47 AM
Deryn reminds me of Dess, they just belong alone(romantically I mean)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 09, 2012, 07:30:42 AM
Eh...not so much from my view. I call dibs on her steampunk awesomeness femaleness.
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Post by: tridecagirl on May 10, 2012, 07:58:53 AM
Ooh - another book I hate that everyone seems to love:

Graceling. Good god, Graceling. I heard that over audiobook and had to cover my brother's ears because I thought it was clean YA. But the writing was really poor, and making your MC a rude, antisocial jerk who looks down on everyone doesn't make you a feminist.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 10, 2012, 10:53:42 AM
Sounds kinda like Maximum Ride. Except not.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 10, 2012, 11:11:47 AM
I've forgotten a lot about Graceling. It's been at least 3 years since I read it.
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Post by: dauntlessbookthief on May 10, 2012, 09:45:54 PM
I loved the Hunger Games, but can't bring myself to read the other two books.

I got through Eragon, but didn't get past chapter two of Eldest.

Stinkin Twilight...yeah..I don't want to go there with the way that dumb dumb dumb series is affecting our culture.

Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 11, 2012, 12:49:13 AM
I loved the Hunger Games, but can't bring myself to read the other two books.

I got through Eragon, but didn't get past chapter two of Eldest.

Stinkin Twilight...yeah..I don't want to go there with the way that dumb dumb dumb series is affecting our culture.

No. Do NOT read twillight. As for THG, the next 2 books are pretty good... I'm sure it;s the movies making it mainstream but they're still decent, not terrible. The next 2 really seem more interesting compared to the 1st.
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Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 01:13:28 AM
Haven't read either, I'm round to say. Though I may read THG so I understand what everyone is talking about/have reference for a scene with Hester Shaw demolishing Everdeen in personal combat.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 11, 2012, 05:29:19 AM
Does anyone even seriously like Twilight anymore? I mean, I know of some people who don't mind it, but I haven't seen anyone who's a serious OMFG BLOOD DRINKING FAIRIES LEIK OH MY CULLEN lately.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 11, 2012, 05:44:46 AM
The Lost Hero and Son of Neptune. I hated them and am not getting the other books in the series.
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Post by: tridecagirl on May 11, 2012, 05:54:47 AM
Oh YESS someone agrees! I'm pretty sure they're ghosted.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 11, 2012, 05:56:51 AM
Yeah, not including the Leo chapters and the 1st 2 chapters of SON, the writing was very different from Percy.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 07:14:41 AM
yeah. that's what I had a problem with. I usually hate 1st person writing...but with riordian it's perfect and when percy is in 3rd...it is just weird.

but I really do love leo
and the fact that he used Vancouver as a setting :)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 07:22:09 AM
I love the greek and roman stuff, so I love it even if it is ghosted(it probably is now, except like you said with the Leo chapters and the first two of SON)

A lot of people say they don't like the Vampire Diaries books or that they like the show better, but I disagree. The books are pretty decent and better than the show. The books are more like the tv show Supernatural than they are just about crappy vampire romance. There are mysteries in almost every book.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 07:25:32 AM
I think...I stopped watching that show when I discovered that the main dudes were in smallville. I decided I'd rather associate them with a good show :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 07:28:36 AM
Funny you should mention Supernatural...I don't really like the show. Or, more specifically, the fans. I mean, really, I thought Twilight lovers were bad...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 07:29:59 AM
lol once again...that show just makes me think of Jason in Smallville and how much I hate him :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 07:31:10 AM
I have a problem with associating actors that were evil in one show as always been evil :P

i can't even watch commercials for castle without snarling everytime that guy talks or is shown (because he was a bad guy in buffy and ruined xander's pretty face ;P)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 07:34:00 AM
I think...I stopped watching that show when I discovered that the main dudes were in smallville. I decided I'd rather associate them with a good show :P
Wait, I know that the guy who played Dean played Jason but was the other guy in Smallville?
Funny you should mention Supernatural...I don't really like the show. Or, more specifically, the fans. I mean, really, I thought Twilight lovers were bad...
I try not to hate on something because of fans. I think Supernatural is an alright show, I don't watch it regularly but the repeats in the summer on TNT.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 07:40:15 AM
lol no I dont think so
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 08:00:16 AM
Oh right, he was on Gilmore Girls and played a guy name, coincedentally, Dean.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Beth-la on May 11, 2012, 08:01:54 AM
GILMORE GIRLS YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Ahem.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 08:18:38 AM
lol. cool

I miss old shows....like...boy meets world
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Beth-la on May 11, 2012, 08:31:11 AM
lol. cool

I miss old shows....like...boy meets world
Boy meets world=best show of the 90's. Or one of the best, anyway. Especially the really old ones when they were itty bitty.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 08:46:50 AM
ahahaha. the 1st season is the best by far.

I love morgan. shes sooooo cute.

"Mommy. if my dolly is cold, can i put her in the toaster?"
"no honey, that would be a mistake"
Mommy?....I made a mistake"
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 11:26:26 AM
I remember Boy Meets World. God I miss 90's TV.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 11:27:27 AM
mee too. I love that show. it's one of the best shows ever made. because it was funny...without trying too hard and it actaully taught the viewers something worthwhile
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Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 12:30:41 PM
THE 90'S ARE ALL THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 12:31:15 PM
Wasn't that a show on Nick at that time?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 12:35:30 PM
All That? Yeah. Now they have that whole program "The 90's Are All That" which is starting at 11 everynight and they play old 90's shows like All That, Kenan & Kel, Clarissa Explains It All, CatDog, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Doug, etc. And now Cartoon Network has started Cartoon Planet which is an hour block each night of random older cartoons such as Powerpuff Girls, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, etc.
IF ONLY DISNEY WOULD TAKE THE HINT AND DO THE SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO WATCH CLASSICS LIKE SO WEIRD, PHIL OF THE FUTURE, EVEN THAT'S SO RAVEN!!!!!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 12:40:01 PM
Woo! I remember all those shows!
Disney...I could care less about. Never really liked they're shows until Phineus and Ferb.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 01:04:56 PM
I'm talking the old old good shows. There are others, I just can't remember their names. Although I think they could bring back more of the old Disney Channel Original Movies like Stepsister From Planet Weird, Zenon(Girl of the 21st century), Phantom of the Megaplex, Don't Look Under the Bed,etc.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
I don't remember any of those...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 01:14:44 PM
REALLY!? How old are you?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 01:19:09 PM
20. I just didn't watch Disney channel when I was younger (no cable)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 11, 2012, 01:21:41 PM
Ahh, yeah, for the longest time I didn't get to watch any of those and then we finally got Dish when I was 7.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 01:27:33 PM
No Dish 4 me...(sad face)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 01:28:49 PM
lol. on Family channel they show zoey 101, that's so raven and neds disclasified... in a row every day! :)

also.
shows I miss
Kim Possible
the Weekenders
Recess
Boy meets world
Alf
Brotherly love
Life with Bonnie
Sinbad show
Popular
All That
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 01:32:02 PM
Lucky for you. Not a huge fan of those shows, honestly. Never been a live-action teen show fan. Cartoons for me, mostly.
I agree with Possible, Weekenders, and Recess. I'm amazed people remember those shows. Actually, I'm amazed people remember Disney's One Saterday Morning and all the other stuff related to it. I also miss Rocket Power.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 01:42:40 PM
lol. well, Im 19 so I remember all the old stuff pretty well. old enough to miss it and think today's crap is pathetic.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 01:44:57 PM
Carbon-bond solid confermation of that feeling. I mean, come on; when did shows like Spongebob become COOL?
Also; SWAT Kats.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 11, 2012, 01:46:35 PM
20. I just didn't watch Disney channel when I was younger (no cable)



MEEEEEE TOOOOOO! I DON'T FEEL ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 01:50:11 PM
The lack of cable is actually quite common.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 11, 2012, 02:05:39 PM
I mean both our age and our lack of cable.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
Oh...yeah. Yay, I don't feel alone either!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 11, 2012, 02:13:14 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 11, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
Just wanted to say... I love Supernatural. :p Well, the first five seasons. Season six was horrible, and season seven, well... kill it with fire! DDX
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 11, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
My sister agrees.
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Post by: kristina-la on May 11, 2012, 03:05:45 PM
never watched it. though, that films here too :P we went to the corn maze and supernatural was fimling!
my youth pastor told me smallville was filming there when I got to the church to head there....I freaked out and drove home to get something that could get signed...and my boots (because it was rainy) and when I got there....it was only supernatural
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 12, 2012, 12:50:45 AM
Woo! I remember all those shows!
Disney...I could care less about. Never really liked they're shows until Phineus and Ferb.

Yeah, that show rocked. XD
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 12, 2012, 01:13:40 AM
"Rocked"? Isn't it still going?
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 12, 2012, 01:26:50 AM
"Rocked"? Isn't it still going?

It probably is... Stuff takes awhile to air in Asia, and the last time i wiki-ed for the new episodes was a year ago. :S If i'm bored enough I might watch the new eps on Youtube.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 12, 2012, 01:58:20 AM
Oh. I can't decide weither to watch that show or not.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 12, 2012, 10:27:22 AM
I don't like Ann Rice.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 12, 2012, 10:30:04 AM
lol. on Family channel they show zoey 101, that's so raven and neds disclasified... in a row every day! :)

also.
shows I miss
Kim Possible
the Weekenders
Recess
Boy meets world
Alf
Brotherly love
Life with Bonnie
Sinbad show
Popular
All That
Ned's declassified is on Teennick here and Zoey 101(but I don't like Zoey 101). That's So Raven is never on. Canada and your superior tv channels. I LOVE Recess and Kim Possible. All That is on almost every night at 11 on Teennick.
Just wanted to say... I love Supernatural. :p Well, the first five seasons. Season six was horrible, and season seven, well... kill it with fire! DDX
I like Supernatural(from what I've seen of the first two seasons or so).

Ok, on topic(sorry Deca) I never got Inkheart!!! I TRIED MANY TIMES AND I COULDN'T GET THROUGH THE BEGINNING!!!
Oh and I think I'm one of the few teens that reads the Sisters Grimm series even though it is REALLY good. It's like PJ but with fairy tales and not mythology.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 12, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
I wanted to read Sisters Grimm now.
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Post by: Allie-wa<3 on May 12, 2012, 10:44:07 AM
I didn't like Inkheart. I read it and got halfway through Inkspell and just stopped. It was boring.

I didn't like Incarceron either, it confused me.

Percey Jackson... Yeah, I hated the first two books. But then again, I absolutely HATE Greek mythology.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 12, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
I wanted to read Sisters Grimm now.
You should, there are 9 books in the series and the ninth(final book) just came out not long ago. They are fairy tale detectives. Oh and as I told my sister ONCE UPON A TIME SO STOLE THE IDEA!!!!!!!!!!! The girls go to live with their grandma in Ferryport Landing, a town where fairy tale characters live as punishment(they can't leave) and they never age.

@Allie I haven't read Incarceron and haven't felt the need to. Yeah hating mythology wouldn't help you with liking Percy Jackson.
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Post by: Allie-wa<3 on May 12, 2012, 12:02:25 PM
Lol, yeah, hating Greek mythology hasn't helped me in liking other popular things like Wrath of the Titans either. :p It's just not my thing.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 12, 2012, 12:08:35 PM
I just check, my library doesn't have sisters Grimm :(
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 12, 2012, 01:29:30 PM
Lol, yeah, hating Greek mythology hasn't helped me in liking other popular things like Wrath of the Titans either. :p It's just not my thing.
I haven't seen those movies and don't want to. They will ruin the mythology just as hollywood ruins most things.
@Luna AWWW
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 13, 2012, 10:46:01 AM
But this is okay, I just ran over to my local bookstore and got the last Kane chronicle and ordered Shay's story.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 13, 2012, 12:49:37 PM
I don't like the Kane chronicles. I couldn't get into the first one, it seemed like a cash grab move. You will love Shay's Story!!!!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 13, 2012, 12:56:52 PM
I should get it this coming week 8) And I think you and I have vastly different taste in books
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 13, 2012, 12:59:25 PM
Well, there is some overlap seeing as we both love Westerfeld. And I love Percy Jackson, but I couldn't start the Kane Chronicles(even though just on the premise I, theoretically, should have loved it).
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 13, 2012, 01:02:17 PM
But even on Scott's stuff we don't see eye to eye. You liked Peeps I didn't I liked Leviathan you didn't. And we differ a lot with Rick since you liked  LH and SON.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: dauntlessbookthief on May 13, 2012, 01:04:49 PM
...I'm not attracted to the Harry Potter series in any way.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 13, 2012, 02:09:09 PM
Don't get me started, Angel. I mean, I liked it at age 13, but then I started to get into military stuff and I found myself saying; "If you want to stop wizards, don't fight them with magic. Fight them with technology. Sure, electronics get messed up by magic wash out, but guns don't need electronics to fire."
And then I just stopped liking it.
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Post by: tridecagirl on May 13, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
Don't get me started, Angel. I mean, I liked it at age 13, but then I started to get into military stuff and I found myself saying; "If you want to stop wizards, don't fight them with magic. Fight them with technology. Sure, electronics get messed up by magic wash out, but guns don't need electronics to fire."
And then I just stopped liking it.

Probably because they're trying not to kill people.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 14, 2012, 01:38:43 AM
But even on Scott's stuff we don't see eye to eye. You liked Peeps I didn't I liked Leviathan you didn't. And we differ a lot with Rick since you liked  LH and SON.
True, although I love all the Greek/Roman stuff almost unconditionally.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 14, 2012, 08:15:06 AM
I require a good story and not just a topic I'm interested in. Like I love all things Grimm, but like Once upon a Time, I don't like it because they gave the plot away and there's nothing left. Same goes for a lot of other fairy tale based stuff too. They're just fluff with no meat to em.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 14, 2012, 01:08:22 PM
Mm Hmm I'm not that way(the I love it because it's this topic way) with most topics, Greek mythology is one of my weak points though. I also LOVE fairy tales, but I eventually quit watching both Grimm and Once Upon a Time partly because of what you said and also partly because they each stole a part of Sisters Grimm(Grimm stole the descendant thing and Once Upon a Time stole the town thing).
I do think that Sisters Grimm would be a good book for you(even though I like it too), it might be where our book tastes overlap.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 14, 2012, 01:16:12 PM
lol well. you all know where I stand :P HARRY POTTER IS THE BEST CREATION OF THIS LAST DECADE....of the last 20 yeears even.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 14, 2012, 01:18:01 PM
>_>
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Post by: kristina-la on May 14, 2012, 01:22:25 PM
also, I love greek mythology.

and while I did not enjoy the kane chronicles as much a PJ, I still like it. I love Set. he is the best. :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 14, 2012, 01:25:27 PM
PJ>Kane, but I still loved Kane.
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Post by: Bow ties are Cool on May 14, 2012, 05:58:52 PM
I think Twilight is stupid! it has no good storyline...
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Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 12:21:43 AM
Doest it even HAVE a storyline?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 15, 2012, 12:52:33 AM
Twillight was a story?

(http://www.tinyurl.com/whutdog)

People actually liked it?
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Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 01:10:34 AM
Shocking, isn't it? But it must have had a story, cause they made 4 movies outta it.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 15, 2012, 02:06:38 AM
Shocking, isn't it? But it must have had a story, cause they made 4 movies outta it.

Yeah. I don't know why people watch the movies. *facepalm* I have never watched a single one. I turn off the TV if it airs there.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 15, 2012, 05:14:28 AM
Twilight actually had a pretty decent story, if you think about it:

You have a teenage girl who feels outcast amongst everyone. She moves to a small, rainy town where she meets a mysterious boy and his family. She learns he is a vampire and that his family is considered outcast by their own kind because they don't drink human blood. The girl and the vampire fall in love, a relationship considered forbidden by pretty much everyone. Throw in the fact that most of the vampires have psychic abilities, a gang of motorcycle-riding werewolves and a coven of evil blood-drinking vampires who want the girl to either die or be turned and, well, it's not a perfect plot but it does have some merit.

But, when you have writing 'talent' like Smeyer's, it's easy to ruin any story line.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 06:02:43 AM
Undeniabbly. Were we to give said story to, say, Scott-la, or perhaps Cherie Preist or Phillip Reeve, it would have turned out phenomenally. Of course, then we'd have either plastic surgery and weird animals, giant drilling machines, or killer zombie robots, respectivly. Though Twilight with Stalkers actually sounds pretty damn cool.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 06:03:33 AM
Twilight actually had a pretty decent story, if you think about it:

You have a teenage girl who feels outcast amongst everyone. She moves to a small, rainy town where she meets a mysterious boy and his family. She learns he is a vampire and that his family is considered outcast by their own kind because they don't drink human blood. The girl and the vampire fall in love, a relationship considered forbidden by pretty much everyone. Throw in the fact that most of the vampires have psychic abilities, a gang of motorcycle-riding werewolves and a coven of evil blood-drinking vampires who want the girl to either die or be turned and, well, it's not a perfect plot but it does have some merit.

But, when you have writing 'talent' like Smeyer's, it's easy to ruin any story line.
It seems really silly when you put it like that. . .
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 15, 2012, 06:04:47 AM
Still better than the Twilight we all know and love today. ;)
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Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 06:05:21 AM
And it's still readable. At least, by the target audiance. I know I wouldn't read it, but that's cause I'm a 20 year old male tech and war junkie.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 06:07:25 AM
On another note. I do not like the Golden Compass.
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Post by: dauntlessbookthief on May 15, 2012, 06:15:03 AM
Me either.

And on the topic of Twilight..Bella is the most empty character ever, but personally, I loved The Host.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 06:16:34 AM
I liked Twilight more than the Host, I just couldn't get into it.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 08:12:19 AM
also, I love greek mythology.

and while I did not enjoy the kane chronicles as much a PJ, I still like it. I love Set. he is the best. :P
Hehe the name Seth comes from(other than the biblical origin) the Egyptian name Set.
Oh and I've never read The Host but have always thought about reading it because it actually sounds good and NOTHING like Twilight. Which furthers my theory that Smeyer just took Vampire Diaries and Sookie Stackhouse themes/ideas and melded them to create Twilight.
I'm going to make a topic with a graph to show this.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 08:30:45 AM
Sookie Stackhouse?
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Post by: Beth-la on May 15, 2012, 08:31:44 AM
^True Blood.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 08:33:50 AM
Oh, I never watched/read that.
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Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 08:51:20 AM
Me either. Though, honestly, I kinda like His Dark Materials. But then again, I'm an atheist, and its plotline is pretty much the living dream of one...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 08:52:33 AM
I'm no catholic schoolgirl, I just didn't like the book.
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Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 08:58:03 AM
That's fine. It is a bit bizzare to read. And confusion.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 09:06:28 AM
did the other books in the series get any better?
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Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 09:08:21 AM
Oh, you didn't read beyond Golden Compass? No wonder you're not impressed. Yes, the ones after are much better. The second introduces the broody hotness that is Will Perry, and a knife that can cut ANYTHING. The third has a lot of crazyness, epic battles, and the world being saved by teens having sex in grass.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 09:09:45 AM
You just nailed the coffin shut with that. Not reading it.
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Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 09:24:54 AM
Well okay then. Its not showed, but it's implied.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 09:31:22 AM
I need more than hot guys and fight scenes(I get lost in them) In my books.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
Me either. Though, honestly, I kinda like His Dark Materials. But then again, I'm an atheist, and its plotline is pretty much the living dream of one...
I never got why people were really ragging on His Dark Materials saying it was antireligious. The whole point was that Will and Lyra were like history repeating itself with Adam and Eve.(well maybe not the WHOLE point but still)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 11:56:42 AM
True. And I really, I didn't see a lot of direct religous ties. Other than the Magestirum, of course. But other than that, it was still a good run.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 12:54:43 PM
People look for stuff like that, which is sad. They will do whatever they can to bring things down.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
Don't I know it. I've seen it with anti-bronies and people against first person shooters. Not that I particularlly like MLP myself, but I still don't like watching people get ripped new ones.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 01:15:39 PM
Ok I'm blanking a bit. What are anti-bronies and what is MLP?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 01:19:59 PM
MLP is the acrynom for My Little Pony. "Bronies" are fans of the show. Technically, it's male fans, but no one calls the female ones by the proper title of "pegasister".
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 01:22:11 PM
never care for MLP myself.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: dauntlessbookthief on May 15, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
I'm a pegasister? Nope...i'd definitely rather be a brony.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 01:28:23 PM
MLP is the acrynom for My Little Pony. "Bronies" are fans of the show. Technically, it's male fans, but no one calls the female ones by the proper title of "pegasister".
I didn't even know MLP was a real show. I knew about the toys and crap, but that is weird.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 01:38:37 PM
Yeah, man. There's been two series. One back in the 80's, and a more recent one with the subtitle Friendship is Magic. It's the kinda show that gives false hope to overweight under-social people. Magic ponies won't give you friends, people. You have to get off your fat ass and actually DO stuff and earn your friends.
Or just happen to like the same things.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 01:41:57 PM
It seems like it's one of those shows for kids that wind up becoming popular with middle/high schoolers because they feel it's cool to like it, like with Disney shows.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 01:46:26 PM
Exactly, except here it's cool with college kids and higher.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
I feel like college kids are getting more kiddish if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 01:49:31 PM
Don't I know it. I'm one of them.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 15, 2012, 01:49:59 PM
Being a kid is so much more fun. Screw growing up. Bronies all the way! :DD
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
Don't I know it. I'm one of them.
You and me both.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 01:50:41 PM
Exactly, except here it's cool with college kids and higher.
I totally get that too. My sister is graduating college this Saturday, but she has stayed home for college the entire time and she is still so immature.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 01:51:07 PM
Intersting. But it's kinda scary; at my college, stuff from the 80s is back in again. Also, old cartoons from the 90s.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 01:52:25 PM
I've seen hippies at my university. . .
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 01:53:53 PM
I'm bad about that too, with the 90s. Although that is just plain nostalgia. What with the retro programming Nick and Cartoon network are doing. It's one thing when you used to watch the show at an appropriate age and still love the show, it's another thing where it is a new show for that same young age and you love it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 01:55:23 PM
I'm bad about that too, with the 90s. Although that is just plain nostalgia. What with the retro programming Nick and Cartoon network are doing. It's one thing when you used to watch the show at an appropriate age and still love the show, it's another thing where it is a new show for that same young age and you love it.

Oh yeah, that's creepy.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 15, 2012, 01:58:43 PM
So, back to the topic at hand: Has anyone read Lord of the Flies? We read it in class, and I honestly hated it. It definitely didn't live up to my expectations. :I My entire class loved it though...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:00:01 PM
LOTF...read part of it. From what I saw, yeah, it could have been a bit more intesteing. It's like Night; you think it's gonna be good because your weak-willed teacher says it made her cry, then you read it and it's a dissapointment.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 15, 2012, 02:00:28 PM
yeah. I hated that book too when we read it. such a disappointment.
I went in thinking they ate eachother.....and I was let down.


also-at my university....we started watching disney movies :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 15, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
So, back to the topic at hand: Has anyone read Lord of the Flies? We read it in class, and I honestly hated it. It definitely didn't live up to my expectations. :I My entire class loved it though...
I've been meaning to read it. I have it on my bookshelf but won't probably read it until Novels class next year(one of my electives).
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:04:58 PM
Anyone ever read As I lay dying?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 15, 2012, 02:05:06 PM
it sucks. Gone is better :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:09:38 PM
Okay, got four of em for you; Mortal Engines, Airborn, Boneshaker and Worldshaker (the last two aren't related)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
Thank God! I thought I was the only 1 who didn't like Worldshaker!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:13:54 PM
Actually I'm iffy about it. I haven't finished it, but from what I can see the only redeaming factor is the massive ship they're on. The story is pretty much being held up by that. There hasn't been a single plot twist I haven't seen coming, and the romance was litterally tossed in my lap.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:14:52 PM
Have you figured out who the villain is yet?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:15:51 PM
I've got some nagging suspicions.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
I thought the villain was very random :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
Well, that might prove interesting. At least someone knows of the series besides me and gavinfuzzy.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:24:44 PM
Oh, I only read worldshaker, never read any other books in the series.   
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:27:44 PM
That makes two of us. Haven't even finished Worldshaker. Though already I'm seeing ways for it to be invaded, captured, and attacked.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:28:55 PM
I really didn't like any of the characters  :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
I only like Riff. And that's cause she reminds me of a scarless Hester Shaw crossed with Deryn Sharp. Everyone else can go eat .50 cal chaingun rounds.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
Yeah, Boring book.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:36:54 PM
I dissagree on that...but the characters are, to a certain extent.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
I'm a character person, for me, characters trump the world 4 importance in a book.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 15, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
I differ there. I like to have both. But you can like characters alone if you want to.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 15, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Oh, I only read worldshaker, never read any other books in the series.

Well, if it wasn't for Worldshaker, I would have never knew of Steampunk... so ... I like it just for that. It's the 1st steampunk book I read, picked it off the shelf of the library, actually, I read the 2nd book, Liberator 1st, then went back to read the 1st book. Which totally spoilt the series. Still a great book IMO, or maybe it's just because it was the 1st steampunk book I read. ;D Plus, I recently found the 1st Australian edition at a used book sale. It was actually mint, or at least showed no sign of damage. Picked it up for $6.  ;D

Still a better 1st edition than Cliffjumper... Transformers joke.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 15, 2012, 11:09:49 PM
I differ there. I like to have both. But you can like characters alone if you want to.

That's not quite what I mean. I need interesting characters and a good plot to like a book and it's icing on the cake if it has a neat world, but honestly I really couldn't care less if the story took place on Mars, in New York in the inner recess of the characters mind.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 12:07:11 AM
Oh...okay, I see what you mean.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 16, 2012, 05:05:05 AM
That's one of the main reasons I didn't like SON, the characters were just Bla. 
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 05:57:12 AM
I've been reading more of Worldshaker, and I agree; a lot of teh characters are Blah. But I think that was done on perpous, so make them unlikeable. Sure made me want to just start spraying a crowd of em with incidiary shotgun rounds.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 16, 2012, 06:00:08 AM
I didn't think they did anything to deserve that. . .
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 06:04:01 AM
I've read enough. And really, a lot of them are just too stupid to live. At least, in my opinion.
Also, just realized something; the acronym for Son of Posidon is SON. Wow.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 16, 2012, 06:05:52 AM
I've been telling people for months about that.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 08:55:03 AM
So...does that make me smarter than most people for recognizing it myself?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 16, 2012, 09:10:57 AM
That's one of the main reasons I didn't like SON, the characters were just Bla.
I will agree that most of the new characters were simply blank. As in not much personality. The only ones who stood out were Octavian, Ella(I think that was her name), maybe Reyna(she seemed to have more potential personality but she didn't get much chance to show it), and Frank. Hazel was so standard it wasn't even funny. Even Percy seemed dialed back a bit.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
I haven't read the second series, but I've heard quite a few agreements to that.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 16, 2012, 09:14:16 AM
I love frank! :)
Yeah-I didn't like hazel very much.
I miss Leo piper and jason
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
Wait, they get dropped in the second book? WTF, Riordan! Stay with one group of heroes!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 16, 2012, 09:22:15 AM
Lol. Not exactly
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 09:23:18 AM
Okay, that's a little good to hear. Don't tell me much, though. I may want to read the series myself.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 16, 2012, 09:34:35 AM
Am I the only one who didn't like Frank?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 16, 2012, 09:35:17 AM
Well I like him because he's from where I live :p
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 16, 2012, 09:36:56 AM
Any other reasons?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 16, 2012, 09:45:11 AM
Mmmm no. Not really :p
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 16, 2012, 10:01:53 AM
Hey, they mention any new characters from the Pacific Northwest? I think it would be kinda fitting to have a child of Posiden (no matter how unlikely it may be for there to be more than just Percy) from Washington.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 16, 2012, 12:30:23 PM
Actually, he could do that if he wanted.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 16, 2012, 12:47:41 PM
He should have done that, it would have been cool. Oh and when I mentioned the non-blank characters before I was talking about from SON. I LOVED all the new characters from TLH, they felt like classic PJ characters. Leo had a sense of humor and a bit of Grover-esque sidekick going on. Piper was beautiful but just as powerful as the other two, despite her brothers' and sisters' stereotype for being weak. Jason, many people claim to be blank, and he could come off that way. But we have to realize that he is a ROMAN, Riordan wrote him with a classic Roman hero's personality
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 16, 2012, 12:50:10 PM
Err, saying that he had a classic Roman personality sounds like an excuse to make a bland character.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 16, 2012, 12:53:56 PM
That is what a classic Roman can come off as. They didn't talk much, they mostly just saved the day and said a few lines. Their actions spoke more than their words.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 16, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
ahah romans :P

also. why would Riordian use a charrie from washington...when he has one from vancouver already?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 16, 2012, 01:06:20 PM
Ehh, just another SoN would be fine, no matter what his origin.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on May 16, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
lol :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 21, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
Worldshaker, did not like it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 21, 2012, 10:12:25 PM
Worldshaker, did not like it.

You're the 2nd person here to not enjoy it. I loved it, it was the 1st steampunk book I read. Read it again recently, and still loved it. hmm...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 05:46:26 AM
to each their own I guess.

I did not like Peeps.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 05:51:42 AM
Blegh. I don't like anything vampire related. Westerfeld did a good job making them more scientific, but at the end of the day they're still vampires.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 05:54:45 AM
Do you just not like vampires or do you hate vampires because of Twilight?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 05:58:16 AM
Oh no, I disliked vampires FAR before Twilight existed. I didn't like them as far back as Buffy. That sort of supernatrual undead urban fantasy never really appealed to me.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 06:05:00 AM
So I take it you don't like Zombies either?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 06:20:33 AM
Not really, actually.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 06:25:03 AM
okay, now that is strange, I never met a boy that didn't like zombies.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 06:30:08 AM
I used to like them, but now EVERYONE is doing them. They're popular. And I am a boy who fights off popular things with a fabricated dolphin. Why am I on this forum? Because Westerfeld's books are fringy. No one knows of them outside a certain group. MY group, to be exact.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 06:32:48 AM
lol, so that's why you have a dolphin as your avatar! And I agree with you, zombies have become a bit too mainstream, but I really don't care if something popular, as long as the story's good and it's well done, I'll like it.   
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 06:34:18 AM
Partailly. Also, I just like dolphins. And I had that photo on my hard drive for a while and hadn't used it before...
That's a good point. Problem, is most zombie things now aren't really that good, at least to me...Boneshaker did it really nicely, though. And it takes place in Seattle, my hometown, which is a bonus.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 06:36:30 AM
I have never had a book that takes place in my state, I've had books where they visit, but that's not quite the same, and have you ever tried reading/watching the Walking Dead?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 06:38:08 AM
Walking Dead was okay. Still didn't really like it. It just...I dunno. I'd really like to see a zombie story with the military fighting them. We've never seen that, it's always suvivors in small groups.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 06:39:42 AM
didn't the military fight them in the Resident Evil games? 
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 06:41:33 AM
No, that's the police, I think. And a private military group attached to some ubercompany. I mean, something like The Hurt Locker, except the guys in it are fighting zombies.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Starbuck on May 22, 2012, 07:27:15 AM
I like Zombies. I am prepared for their coming. they also fascinate me.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 08:24:47 AM
A lot of people are ready for the zombies.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 22, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
I think that the only thing that can make zombies is us. People will eventually make the virus as a biological weapon and it will get out of control. But I don't really think it would ever happen.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 22, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
It's unlikely, yes. And I doubt, were it ever actually made, it would ever reach the preportions we see in movies.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 22, 2012, 01:16:09 PM
I could see it becoming like the Children of Revolution story in Zombies vs Unicorns.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Starbuck on May 22, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
They have actually named the zombie virus solanum and there ate numerous recorded attacks.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 23, 2012, 12:17:06 AM
I used to like them, but now EVERYONE is doing them. They're popular. And I am a boy who fights off popular things with a fabricated dolphin. Why am I on this forum? Because Westerfeld's books are fringy. No one knows of them outside a certain group. MY group, to be exact.

I feel the same way as you. XD I refrain from reading mainstream books, cus well, everyone has read it and it's nothing special. I dislike fantasy too, I never read Percy Jackson/ The Power of 5 / the more recent Serpent's shadow ( I think). The idea of humans have supernatural powers and wings and stuff is just not my thing. I hate stories of regular humans battling gods too.. unless, the god is a mechanical robotic planet, few hundred times the size of earth, about to eat everything in it's way.  ;D

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NCuuDkIUwkw/TpoUxia5TBI/AAAAAAAAAnI/XEJv53GRYeQ/s1600/unicron.jpg)

Then i'm cool with that.  ;D

Back on topic, if humans had to have superhuman powers, at least throw in devices that contains gives them the powers, like a jetpack allowing you to fly. That's where the Steampunk Genre comes in I guess. I have read nothing but steampunk since the start of the year (Apart from the hunger games). It's already my favorite genre, I've always like mechanical, metalic worlds, and the Neo-Victorian Aesthetics and fashion of steampunk.  Plus, it's a very obscure genre, the only steampunk book at regular bookstores I've seen is Souless.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 23, 2012, 12:21:38 AM
I have never had a book that takes place in my state, I've had books where they visit, but that's not quite the same, and have you ever tried reading/watching the Walking Dead?

The Walking Dead was great, apart from that I'm not a fan of zombies.

I've only watched the Live Action series, and not read the comics from the 2000s

Someone brought the complete season 1 boxset to my cell group's camp last year, and we stayed up till 3+ in the morning to complete all 6 episodes.  ;D
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Post by: Straif on May 23, 2012, 12:37:09 AM
Sounds like dead fun, staying up to watch it like that.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on May 23, 2012, 12:59:15 AM
Sounds like dead fun, staying up to watch it like that.

Yep, and the previous night we stayed up to 3 to take turns in playing the GOW3 campaign too.  ;D We only slept after we completed it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 23, 2012, 01:00:20 AM
Sounds like dead fun, staying up to watch it like that.

nice pun.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Starbuck on May 23, 2012, 01:03:51 AM
I guess you could say he's  8) good. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!!!!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 23, 2012, 05:08:43 AM
Cracked.com has a good list of why the zombie apocalypse would fail horribly.

As for kids with superpowers, the cleverest explanation I've seen so far is in Homestuck (a web comic). The kids are playing a game that exists to create new universes. As they play, they develop powers, because if they win they're supposed to serve as the gods of the world they created.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 23, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
I hate pride and prejudice and zombies.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Starbuck on May 23, 2012, 06:47:00 AM
Who does not love the zombies flesh craving stare and then bashing it in with a crowbar?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 23, 2012, 09:10:46 AM
Cracked.com has a good list of why the zombie apocalypse would fail horribly.

As for kids with superpowers, the cleverest explanation I've seen so far is in Homestuck (a web comic). The kids are playing a game that exists to create new universes. As they play, they develop powers, because if they win they're supposed to serve as the gods of the world they created.
UUUUURRRRRRRGGGGGGG Homestuck! Now THERE is something I don't like! I don't know why, but I can't stand it, and the damn thing sucked in all my female freinds!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 23, 2012, 09:14:40 AM
I have never heard of Cracked.com.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 23, 2012, 10:38:56 AM
Cracked.com has a good list of why the zombie apocalypse would fail horribly.

As for kids with superpowers, the cleverest explanation I've seen so far is in Homestuck (a web comic). The kids are playing a game that exists to create new universes. As they play, they develop powers, because if they win they're supposed to serve as the gods of the world they created.
UUUUURRRRRRRGGGGGGG Homestuck! Now THERE is something I don't like! I don't know why, but I can't stand it, and the damn thing sucked in all my female freinds!

How far did you get into it? Because it's AWESOME.
I have never heard of Cracked.com.

Probably for the best. It sucks you in and you can't get out.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 23, 2012, 10:45:24 AM
I haven't played it, nor will I ever. It's not really my thing.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 23, 2012, 10:46:07 AM
It's not a game...

but how can't you stand it if you haven't read it? I was super skeptical, but I got an act in and I was hooked.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on May 23, 2012, 10:47:49 AM
Oh no, I myself didn't "play" it (that's what my freind who showed it to me calls it. Playing, don't know why). I saw her play through quite a bit. Enough to know that, apperently, as a Picies, I'm a badass in that universe.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: tridecagirl on May 23, 2012, 10:52:50 AM
I don't know about that... Pisces is Feferi. She dies pretty fast, and she doesn't do much.

It's pretty cool, IMO. I'd encourage you to check this out - it's the animation for EOA5, and really cool. However, I get that it's not everyone's thing. The fandom's hilarious though. http://www.mspaintadventures.com/cascade.php?s=6&p=6009
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on May 23, 2012, 02:31:39 PM
Cracked.com has a good list of why the zombie apocalypse would fail horribly.

As for kids with superpowers, the cleverest explanation I've seen so far is in Homestuck (a web comic). The kids are playing a game that exists to create new universes. As they play, they develop powers, because if they win they're supposed to serve as the gods of the world they created.
There is a fairly similar concept to that in Final Fantasy XIII. The gods, Fal'Cie, keep the world running, but they appoint humans to be their servants/hands and call them  L'Cie. When they become L'Cie they get powers from their Fal'Cie.
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Post by: tridecagirl on May 23, 2012, 11:06:50 PM
Hmm. Neat.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 30, 2012, 06:01:37 AM
Now this really isn't a book, but I have to rant about it: Homestuck.

I JUST DON'T GET IT. What's the appeal? I've tried to read it. Hell, I read a large portion of it. And I still don't see how so many people think it's good. I just... really don't like it. :|
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Post by: Seth-la on May 30, 2012, 07:37:19 AM
I've never heard of it, what is it? I tried to look up on amazon but it didn't really work.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 30, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
It's a webcomic that has somehow managed to spawn a huge fanbase.
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 08:31:51 AM
Sorta like MLP and Adventure Time; brainless fun for the brainless masses.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 30, 2012, 10:50:57 AM
I just looked it up, did a couple things on it and got bored. It was stupid.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 30, 2012, 11:38:36 AM
Except MLP and Adventure Time are amazing. JUST sayin'. *Z snaps*
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Post by: Seth-la on May 30, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
I know adventure time, but what is MLP?
EDIT!!:Never mind. MLP, My Little Pony. Where does this show come on though!!? People are talking about it but I've never seen it on the guide on tv.
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 01:22:33 PM
Pretty sure MLP is on the cable channel Hub, along with a bunch of other lame shoes. Like the Aquabats, and the new, crappy Transformers. Also, online. And spouted by every single fat motherfucker at the Emerald City Comic Convention. Oh GOD it was satisfying to make Tara Strong leave before she could talk to them. Thank you Halo fans and your obsession with Jen Taylor.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 30, 2012, 01:25:56 PM
HAHA!!! Tara Strong is the voice of Harley Quinn in Batman: Arkham City and the new video game Lollipop Chainsaw . . . she is the lead character, Juliet, who is a cheerleader/zombie slayer. She has lines like "stupid undead zombie douche bags!" It's hilarious that she does the kid show too.
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 01:32:09 PM
Oh man...this just got AWESOME. So, she voices a calm, polite pony...and a psychopathic make-up wearing clown-obsessed nymphette and a chainsaw wielding slutty cheerleader? BOO YAH!
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Post by: Seth-la on May 30, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
She was also the voice of Timmy Turner. Anyway, back on topic.

I think Harley Quinn is an underrated Batman villain. I think Harley Quinn should have been in The Dark Knight movies.
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 01:42:37 PM
Oh lord yes. Interestingly enough, she wasn't actually in the comics. She was thought up for the animated series. But somehow, she manages to be a LOT more interesting than a lot of the other villians. And I just LOVE her voice.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on May 30, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
My friend is obsessed with Harley, and cosplays as her all the time (and uses her accent whenever she speaks) :p It's quite awesome
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
Whats not to be obsessed about with her? She's every fanboys dream; a girl obsessed with your personallity? Yes please!
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Post by: Seth-la on May 30, 2012, 01:56:07 PM
Oh lord yes. Interestingly enough, she wasn't actually in the comics. She was thought up for the animated series. But somehow, she manages to be a LOT more interesting than a lot of the other villians. And I just LOVE her voice.
She started in the animated series but then they adapted her into the comics. She started out as and Assistant Psychiatrist on Joker's case in the Asylum but then she became infatuated with him and helped him break free. She then went from Harleen Quinzel to Harley Quinn. Man, those new Batman video games have updated me on my Batman mythos.
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 01:58:55 PM
I remember some of that, yeah. I like her cartoon form best, though. There was this one episode, Harley's Holiday, I think, where there's this scene of her out of costume, on a set of roller blades, riding down the strees of Gotham being pulled by Joker's pet hyenas, that's really stuck with me. I don't know WHY.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 30, 2012, 02:00:24 PM
Oh my God, I remember that episode !  :o
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 02:02:21 PM
That was a good one. I miss that show...
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on May 30, 2012, 02:03:50 PM
Yeah, batman beyond was ok, but not as good as normal batman.
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Post by: Straif on May 30, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
Without a doubt.
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Post by: Seth-la on May 31, 2012, 02:52:21 AM
The new video games are the best Batman representations so far when it comes to keeping with the comics.
ANYWAY(sorry for the off topic stuff Deca) I think that A Clockwork Orange is REALLY good. I know a lot of people don't like it because it's too graphic, and that stuff is a little disturbing, but I like the philosophy behind it.
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Post by: Straif on May 31, 2012, 03:50:15 AM
Clockwork Orange FTW!
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Post by: Seth-la on May 31, 2012, 05:11:09 AM
You've read it? I got it on my kindle, the edition with the EXTRA CHAPTER!!!!!! I'm about 50% done. I like Alex and his music loving. I love nadsat language too.
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Post by: meredith on May 31, 2012, 02:55:06 PM
Ugh I hated Graceling, Soul Screamers, and Earagon :p
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on May 31, 2012, 03:13:46 PM
I hated Graceling. I wasn't a fan of the last Hunger Games book, and I'm not a huge fan of the Mortal Instruments.

AND I REALLY HATE HOUSE OF NIGHT BOOKS! SO MUCH. 

I have a hatred for female leads for some reason, and i can usually tolerate them if I like the supporting characters but with House of Night everyone just freaking worships this w**** who sleeps with like three guys and is expected to be some sort of amazing heroine. No. Just, no.

And honestly, I really don't hate Twilight. The books were good, the movies and fangirls ruined them.

What else do I dislike....eh. That's about it as far as popular books go...
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Post by: meredith on May 31, 2012, 03:29:21 PM
YES! That is exactly how I feel about Twilight! And I didn't read the House of Night for the reason that I knew I wouldn't like the main character :p hmmm I liked the first 3 Mortal Instruments, but I haven't enjoyed these last two, I think she should've kept the books a trilogy....
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Post by: Allie-wa<3 on May 31, 2012, 11:22:46 PM
I loved HoN, mainly because the characters were so stupid and predictable it was funny.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 01, 2012, 12:35:32 AM
I loved HoN, mainly because the characters were so stupid and predictable it was funny.

HoN?
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 01:18:36 AM
House of Night, apperently. Never heard of it.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 01, 2012, 01:44:27 AM
House of Night, apperently. Never heard of it.

I saw the word "Vampire" and i closed the tab.
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 01:49:48 AM
All that need to be said, mate.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 01, 2012, 01:56:13 AM
It's....it's awful. In my opinion. I know that some people like them. The plot in itself is pretty good, but I don't like the fact that they made it so when vampires drink your blood it's incredibly pleasurable. I'm sorry, but I don't like bug bites. What the heck is going to make a full grown person thing sinking their teeth into my neck pleasurable? And the characters. They were....gah.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 01, 2012, 02:01:14 AM
Actually, blood drinking is supposed to be pleasurable for vampires. In Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles, blood-drinking is akin to having sex for vampires. :p /forum's resident vampire know-it-all
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 01, 2012, 02:02:51 AM
Actually, blood drinking is supposed to be pleasurable for vampires. In Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles, blood-drinking is akin to having sex for vampires. :p /forum's resident vampire know-it-all

Yeah, but for the vampires. In HoN it's supposed to be better than sex for the humans. Is that normal? I don't know much about vampires, but that bit just really bothered me. I figure it'd be nice for Vampires, but for people?
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 01, 2012, 02:05:29 AM
Well, I suppose it might be. The neck/ throat are endrogynous (sp?) zones, so it may be pleasurable for a human, but probably not as much as sex in itself. :p
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 01, 2012, 02:07:39 AM
Well, I suppose it might be. The neck/ throat are endrogynous (sp?) zones, so it may be pleasurable for a human, but probably not as much as sex in itself. :p

Exactly.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 01, 2012, 02:20:32 AM
HoN sounds amusing. XDD Anyway, I recently had recently had the displeasure of reading Fifty Shades of Grey. What... the...? I don't understand why people like it. It's awful, just plain awful!
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 01, 2012, 02:22:58 AM
That was in an SNL skit...is it a romance?
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 02:45:42 AM
Well, I suppose it might be. The neck/ throat are endrogynous (sp?) zones, so it may be pleasurable for a human, but probably not as much as sex in itself. :p

Trust me, it's not. My first ex actually bit me, vampire style, when she got drunk. She was wearing fake vamprie teeth so it drew blood and everything. It wasn't pleasurable, it fucking HURT, and it scared the shit outta me.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 01, 2012, 02:59:09 AM
Really? My boyfriend bites me all time, and I find it quite enjoyable. :p Same thing with him. ... Yeah this is kinda awkward.
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 03:13:38 AM
LOL (I am actually laughing out loud right now :p)


First of all-twilight was horrible before the fans came along-but I get what you mean.
I think...the crazy fan girls are what turned me from Hunger games.
However....when something is super amazing...not even fangirls can ruin it.
Take starkid for example. That concert...packed with screaming girls. I really don't care. (I was kinda screaming too. Not that loud though :p more like squeal)
Anywho-I still love it to pieces despite all the fangirls that probably only started watching because of glee and Darren.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on June 01, 2012, 03:57:01 AM
Actually, in Vampire Academy, the vampires bites are suppose to feel good. It uses the reasoning that the vamp's kind of have a venom that gets release  into the blood stream and makes you high.   
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 05:14:19 AM
However....when something is super amazing...not even fangirls can ruin it.
Take starkid for example. That concert...packed with screaming girls. I really don't care. (I was kinda screaming too. Not that loud though :p more like squeal)
Anywho-I still love it to pieces despite all the fangirls that probably only started watching because of glee and Darren.

Funny, my sister just went to a Starkid concert here in Seattle. She had a great time.

Really? My boyfriend bites me all time, and I find it quite enjoyable. :p Same thing with him. ... Yeah this is kinda awkward.
Is it the gentle biting, or the "trying to rip your throat open with their teeth" kind? I got the last one.

Actually, in Vampire Academy, the vampires bites are suppose to feel good. It uses the reasoning that the vamp's kind of have a venom that gets release  into the blood stream and makes you high.   
Sorta like that paralizing spit a lot of animals have.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 01, 2012, 05:18:13 AM
Well... it can be both, usually. :| He starts gentle, but then he gets a bit more... into it. And that's all I'm really going to say about this topic because I find it to be really, really awkward. XD Sorry for going so off-topic Deca-la~. :p
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 05:23:28 AM
rai.....ahahhaah. sorry. hahahahhaah. anywho.....

Starkid is.....so amazing.
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Post by: Seth-la on June 01, 2012, 05:25:51 AM
HoN sounds amusing. XDD Anyway, I recently had recently had the displeasure of reading Fifty Shades of Grey. What... the...? I don't understand why people like it. It's awful, just plain awful!
My sister read that trilogy and loved it for some reason. I prefer L.J. Smith's vampires in Night World series. I've said it before, she explains it scientifically that the vampire blood has all those special qualities but loses the quality to transfer oxygen so the vampire must take in human blood to get oxygen. Thirst is really a feeling like slowly drowning.

@Stina you don't mind the starkid fangirls because you are one  ;) ;)

I used to like HoN, but it's true; Zoey is a skank. She even SPOILERS sleeps with a teacher. And sorry Deca!!!
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 05:27:26 AM
SETH! SHUTTTTTTUP! :P
I know I am. but I'm not like...crazy. I swear-I was going to go deaf when those girls starting screaming for one more song.
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Post by: Seth-la on June 01, 2012, 05:33:42 AM
HAHA!! You should put Westerforum Resident Fangirl in your siggie.

Anyway, has anyone read The Host? I'm thinking of reading it.
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 05:39:04 AM
NO NO NO NO NO NO!!! I AM THE RESIDENT POTTERNERD!!! (hense why I like starkidPOTTER so much! SO THERE)
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Post by: Seth-la on June 01, 2012, 05:40:03 AM
Hehe Resident Potter Fangirl.
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
NO NO NO NONO NO!!!!! can I not be a harry potter nerd and a girl? if it was a boy he'd just be a nerd! I AM NO FAN GIRL FOR POTTER
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Post by: Seth-la on June 01, 2012, 05:48:53 AM
Not necessarily, there are fanboys. Like I could be called a Buffy fanboy. XD
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 05:52:40 AM
lol :P nah. Buffy can be a nerd thing too.
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 06:00:27 AM
Buffy IS a nerd thing. As shown by the many Buffy fanboys at the most recent ECCC.
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Post by: Seth-la on June 01, 2012, 06:09:09 AM
But you call them fanboys and not nerds?
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Post by: Starbuck on June 01, 2012, 06:25:55 AM
birds, flees, ticks, bees. they are all the same
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 07:20:36 AM
There's a difference between fanboys and nerds. Fanboys focus on one thing and usually that thing only. They're the fat bastards who clog the halls at comic cons slavering over a greying actress because she played a hot chick somewhere. Or because she voices a FUCKING HORSE! Nerds, on the other hand, are more spread out, and enjoy things beyond fictional stories, such as chemestry, physics, and biology.
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 07:41:03 AM
who said it has to be science? I don't think being a nerd should be science specific.
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Post by: tridecagirl on June 01, 2012, 07:49:40 AM
I'm an English nerd. :)

Ok... the Host - not as bad as Twilight, still pretty crummy.

Don't worry about going off topic, guys. We always do that.

Uh... Rai? People biting you intensely is generally not a good thing.
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 08:20:35 AM
specially with all this zombie stuff going on :P
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Post by: Seth-la on June 01, 2012, 08:31:38 AM
who said it has to be science? I don't think being a nerd should be science specific.
Agreed, although, that goes to question the difference between a nerd and a geek. I use them interchangeably but I feel that geek is a nicer term, a term that geeks use on themselves. And nerd is more used as derogatory.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 01, 2012, 10:44:25 AM
@Deca: Okay, so maybe he doesn't bite me that hard XD And I've heard that nerd is more for science and math stuff, and geek is used for the 'other' types.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 01, 2012, 11:42:39 AM
Nerd is like science, math, and literature(sometimes); geek is stereotypically for computers and technology, but it can go with pretty much every other thing possible to be a fan of. Like my best friend and I are categorized as Book Nerds, but to break it down we are...let's say Leviathan Geeks. 
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 11:49:43 AM
Works fine for me. Also, LeviathaNut is also an applicable term.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 01, 2012, 11:54:34 AM
Heheheheheheh I like that. I'll have to propose it to them 0: Except we've already called ourselves the Imperials, and our sign is the two-headed eagle. Hehe xD
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
So you've gone to the first stage of true Leviathan fandom; giving your group a name. Very good.
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Post by: kristina-la on June 01, 2012, 03:11:36 PM
Well then...I'm gonna go ahead and label myself as a dork. Yes. I think that's fitting.
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Post by: Straif on June 01, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
You do realize what "dork" is slang for, right?
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on June 01, 2012, 03:22:54 PM
I don't what does it stand for?
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Post by: Straif on June 02, 2012, 12:02:49 AM
It's another term for...the male Darwinist organs, lets just say that.
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Post by: Beth-la on June 02, 2012, 10:08:11 AM
Ahahahaahaha. Yeah, look up dork in the dictionary. I found that out in seventh grade, and have since been scarred for life.
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Post by: Seth-la on June 02, 2012, 10:10:38 AM
Slang meaning? A Dork is just someone who others find is odd or has odd likes. Someone who is quirky and doesn't care what others think of them. Or do you mean the thing about the whale . . .
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Post by: kristina-la on June 03, 2012, 04:31:08 AM
bahahahha :P
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Post by: Straif on June 03, 2012, 04:35:23 AM
Yeah, totally.
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Post by: Seth-la on June 03, 2012, 05:56:28 AM
EWWWWWwwww I don't like that definition.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 03, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
Amazing how a seemingly normal word has a bunch of other meanings ... check Urbandictionary and you'll be surprised...  ;D
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Post by: Candle458 on June 05, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
I don't like the Harry Potter Series the movies are awesome but I couldn't get myself to read the books they just seem boring its not because there to long I have read longer books its just that they seem to slow and not fast passed like other books I read. :/   
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Post by: Straif on June 05, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
They need more Death Eaters being killed by Muggles. Like, one gets a greande tossed at him and he picked it up, and has enough time to wonder what it is before it turns him into meat cubes.
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Post by: Candle458 on June 05, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
They need more Death Eaters being killed by Muggles. Like, one gets a greande tossed at him and he picked it up, and has enough time to wonder what it is before it turns him into meat cubes.
LOL  yes
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Post by: Straif on June 05, 2012, 02:25:21 PM
Also, pistol packing squib. Gets disarmed, Death Eater closes in for the kill, receives a barage of 9 mil bullets in payment.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 05, 2012, 02:28:39 PM
I don't like the Harry Potter Series the movies are awesome but I couldn't get myself to read the books they just seem boring its not because there to long I have read longer books its just that they seem to slow and not fast passed like other books I read. :/   

I never read the books too... The 1st few movies were great... I watched 1-4 but after that they seemed pretty forced and like they did a half-assed job just because they HAD to make all 7/8 movies... I watched Deathly Hallows part 1 ... Never got around to watching part 2 and I'm not even bothering to watch it online...
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Post by: Candle458 on June 05, 2012, 02:29:30 PM
Muggle: SUCK THIS *throws grenade*
Death Eater: *picks up* What the F*** is th... *BOOM*
Muggle: SUCK IT
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 05, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
.... Because, you know, guns and grenades TOTALLY wouldn't ruin the whole Harry Potter aesthetic.
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Post by: Straif on June 05, 2012, 03:07:29 PM
In my mind they won't. Never been a huge fan of magic, though. So maybe it would ruin it for you.
Though you have to admit, if you think about it, in the grand scheme of things Voldemort isn't a huge threat to anyone.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 05, 2012, 03:14:37 PM
Because Voldemort has magic, which allows him to do anything and manipulate anyone? Psh, yeah, because muggle weapons could stand to that. :p (Sorry, I just really can't stand a lot of this 'modern weapons and warfare' stuff. :I)
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Post by: Straif on June 05, 2012, 03:19:40 PM
Who said anything about Muggles fighting him? I was thinking an army of wizards. Like, and honest-to-god trained military, not, say, the Aurers of the Ministry.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 05, 2012, 03:52:17 PM
What is it with people and wanting a military involved in everything? :I
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Post by: kristina-la on June 05, 2012, 04:02:39 PM
Warning warning. Incoming forum potter nerd.

How do you get off wanting muggle crap ruining the magical...and incredibly unique word Rowling created?
For one thing, it is a book about another world. A world of magic not muggle military.
And another-no muggle would ever stand a chance against voldemort (hello. He has horcruxes and he'd kill them before they got the chance)
Also, the books may seem dull to you but it is because you're not getting the full picture...and the brilliance behind it all.
There are small details in the first book that are crucial in the 7th. Think about it for a moment and tell me that JKR is not one of the most brilliant minds to grace this world in the last century.
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Post by: Straif on June 05, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
Potter fan indeed...but at least you have rational arguments instead of fan bile. I approve of that.
Although I have one thing to say about Voldemort; why would you WANT To kill him? Cut off his limbs, gouge out his eyes, and shove his corpse down a hole. Problem solved.
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Post by: kristina-la on June 05, 2012, 04:31:06 PM
Why? He's hardly human. It would make no difference to him.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 05, 2012, 05:27:27 PM
What is it with people and wanting a military involved in everything? :I

Cos they they could just blow up everything that gets in their way like Michael Bay. XD
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Post by: tridecagirl on June 05, 2012, 10:38:01 PM
Are you guys forgetting that regular technology doesn't work around magic?
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Post by: Allie-wa<3 on June 05, 2012, 11:04:00 PM
Some day I may try to read HP... The movies weren't too bad, which usually means the books are better. I just need the patience to get through the first book.. :p
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Post by: Straif on June 06, 2012, 12:15:10 AM
Are you guys forgetting that regular technology doesn't work around magic?

Electronics don't. Physics does. So firearms and grenades would still work fine.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 06, 2012, 12:21:37 AM
Are you guys forgetting that regular technology doesn't work around magic?

Hmm.. How about Cybertronian technology? Maybe the military's a part of NEST or something...  ;D
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Post by: Straif on June 06, 2012, 12:40:57 AM
Wasn't it the other way around? NEST was a military unit?
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 06, 2012, 01:01:42 AM
::) Magic trumps military garbage. End of story. :p
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Post by: Straif on June 06, 2012, 01:03:00 AM
For you maybe. Not for me.
But whatever. No need for a flame war, right? End of discussion.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on June 06, 2012, 01:07:15 AM
Hey, I didn't see anyone trying to start a flame war. But you're right; end of discussion.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Candle458 on June 06, 2012, 01:31:06 AM
PIE....End of discussion  8)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 06, 2012, 01:47:06 AM
PIE....End of discussion  8)

Everyone likes pie.  ;D  Probably... I mean... who does not?

Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on June 06, 2012, 01:47:56 AM
My friend, but he had his face slammed into a hot one by accident once.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on June 06, 2012, 02:05:55 AM
My friend, but he had his face slammed into a hot one by accident once.

Ouch. I would definitely hate pie after THAT.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on June 06, 2012, 05:06:12 AM
I'm so glad that never happened to me, I wouldn't want pie ruined for me.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on June 06, 2012, 05:08:59 AM
As am I. I like pie. Especially cherry pie.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on June 06, 2012, 05:35:08 AM
Apple and chocolate are my fav. I also just like murang(spelling?)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 06, 2012, 05:50:22 AM
Meringue. I don't like pie, but I felt it necessary to correct the spelling. I love cake.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on June 06, 2012, 05:57:58 AM
YAY!!! Thanks for the spelling. MERINGUE!!!!!! I love chocolate cake and red velvet. I LOVE red velvet cupcakes and cookies better though.

ANYWAY TOPIC! I didn't get the ending to The Giver.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on June 06, 2012, 06:02:32 AM
Never read that one, so I dunno what to say.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 06, 2012, 06:07:04 AM
I didn't really like the Giver. But what part did you not get? Maybe I can help.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on June 06, 2012, 07:26:51 AM
I understood it, but I found the ending stupid. The kid runs away from the place . . . that's the end. That's no way to end a standalone book.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 06, 2012, 07:56:22 AM
Well, she didn't exactly leave it as a stand alone. There are two "sister" books called Gathering Blue and The Messenger. I guess it's like a thematic trilogy.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Beth-la on June 06, 2012, 08:21:26 AM
Oh, I wanted to read the two companion books but never got around to it. I dunno, the Giver was alright. It was more the, "examine the world's problems" kind of book to me.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on June 06, 2012, 08:29:50 AM
It was good, but it wasn't my favorite. I liked the message of it, but I just didn't like the story.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: frenchllama on September 16, 2012, 01:16:09 PM
I also really DIDN'T like the Mortal Instruments series. Lots of "borrowed" Harry Potter material and I really really want to punch Clary in the face.

I never really liked Divergent. The whole faction thing didn't make a lot of sense to me, and it felt like the author was writing Dystopia just because she knew it would get popular, and not because she actually had a good story in her mind.

But I LOVE Gone. The books do get a lot better as you go along...and more violent. I can't believe I have to wait until April for Light.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 16, 2012, 01:22:42 PM
Gone. Yes. Glorious. Amazing series.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on September 16, 2012, 01:35:58 PM
Okay, so a lot of you probably already know this, but

I hate Harry Potter.

And I don't think Leviathan was very good either.  Uglies will always be a million times better.
THANK YOU. (The Leviathan part, not the Harry Potter part...)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on September 16, 2012, 02:25:03 PM

WOH!!!!!!!!! YOU DON'T LIKE HARRY POTTER????? :(
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 16, 2012, 02:27:40 PM
A lot of people don't actually.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 16, 2012, 02:29:47 PM
I liked the 3rd the best, but the plot did kind of repeat in all the others..
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Allie-wa<3 on September 16, 2012, 02:33:11 PM
I also really DIDN'T like the Mortal Instruments series. Lots of "borrowed" Harry Potter material and I really really want to punch Clary in the face.

I never really liked Divergent. The whole faction thing didn't make a lot of sense to me, and it felt like the author was writing Dystopia just because she knew it would get popular, and not because she actually had a good story in her mind.

But I LOVE Gone. The books do get a lot better as you go along...and more violent. I can't believe I have to wait until April for Light.
I forgive you for disliking the first two books you mentioned because you love Gone and it's violentness. c;
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 16, 2012, 04:11:17 PM
I dont like harry potter

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Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 04:56:58 AM
I don't really like it either. Used to, then I hit puberty and I started to wonder why someone just didn't just shoot Voldemort and be fucking done with it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Bea-la on September 17, 2012, 04:59:22 AM
I don't really like it either. Used to, then I hit puberty and I started to wonder why someone just didn't just shoot Voldemort and be fucking done with it.
*facepalm*  THE HORCRUXES.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 05:08:10 AM
Who said anything about KILLING his ass? Which is worse? Him dying, or living in pain, trapped for all eternity in some hole without his limbs?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 06:16:36 AM
Yes, thank you.
Better; make him swallow a grenade too. Limless AND with a gaping hole in his chest? He'll wish he was never born.
You don't know PAIN, Thomas Riddle. You don't even know the MEANING of pain.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Bea-la on September 17, 2012, 06:47:34 AM
He's magic, he could teleport away or heal himself.  Plus he has tons of dedicated followers that would do it for him.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 06:56:10 AM
Ain't seen either of those happen in the books...enchant the hole so he can't disapperate, make it deep enough he can't climb out, and seal it with concrete and steel.
And by TONS you mean maybe 300. Against what the American magicial community could deploy;
A full division of soldiers (14000 personnel), including two regiments of foot soldiers (Marines, probably) and one armoured division (M1A1 Abrams MBT's, Bradely and Stryker IFV's, supply vehciles, Paladin artillery pieces, MLRS vehicles, and all backed up by two tactical air wings of fighter/bombers and dedicated strike aircraft. ALL of who are trained (at least somewhat) in magic.
Not that you really need it...ain't no amount of magic can prepare someone who's never seen a Muggle war vehcile from pissing themselves. Hell, something tells me the Death Eaters would lose quite a few of their fighters to them picking up live grenades...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 17, 2012, 07:07:16 AM
I don't get the BIG BIG hype of MI; I liked them but they weren't overtly awesome. Oh and THE ENEMY series is the best when it comes to violence. AND BATTLE ROYALE IS BETTER THAN HUNGER GAMES!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 07:08:44 AM
Need to read both then. Is it spelled like that, all caps? THE ENEMY? Or is is just standard?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 07:12:13 AM
Its a book too actually. And it is; sex, blood, hot Asian schoolgirls. Everything Hunger Games DOESN'T have.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Bea-la on September 17, 2012, 07:12:33 AM
Ain't seen either of those happen in the books...enchant the hole so he can't disapperate, make it deep enough he can't climb out, and seal it with concrete and steel.
And by TONS you mean maybe 300. Against what the American magicial community could deploy;
A full division of soldiers (14000 personnel), including two regiments of foot soldiers (Marines, probably) and one armoured division (M1A1 Abrams MBT's, Bradely and Stryker IFV's, supply vehciles, Paladin artillery pieces, MLRS vehicles, and all backed up by two tactical air wings of fighter/bombers and dedicated strike aircraft. ALL of who are trained (at least somewhat) in magic.
Not that you really need it...ain't no amount of magic can prepare someone who's never seen a Muggle war vehcile from pissing themselves. Hell, something tells me the Death Eaters would lose quite a few of their fighters to them picking up live grenades...
That could never happen because:

1.  The wizards would never out themselves to Muggles.
2.  If they did the Muggles would be the ones pissing themselves.
3. Why would the Muggles supply a good portion of their army just because some wizards come to their door and are like "Sup bro, I'm a wizard, want to give us your army so we can protect ourselves from an evil wizard?"
4.  Magic is magic.  Try your soldiers and military vehicles against the full wrath of giants, spawned tornadoes (and any other severe weather) and a bunch of really angry wizards coming at you with red bolts of light that kill you within a millisecond.  Yeah, and the wizards are the ones scared.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 17, 2012, 07:12:53 AM
@staif no need for all caps, I just get excited.
@Fanna WAY better. Allie-wa and I have both read BR and we love it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 07:13:37 AM
Solid copy, much thank! I need more good book series. You guys read Gone?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 17, 2012, 07:15:15 AM
LOVE Gone, I've only read the first 3 though. I'm waiting for the series to finish then I'll buy the rest and read all the books in one go.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Bea-la on September 17, 2012, 07:15:40 AM
I must now add Battle Royale to my list of 1,000 books to read.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 07:16:26 AM
Planning on doing the same Seth. I've only read a little bit of the first. But I know the basis of the plot thanks to my sister's choir freind in German and her hatred of all things standard.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: frenchllama on September 17, 2012, 08:26:04 AM
You guys are smart about not reading the rest of the series until Light comes out...Gah, SERIOUSLY APRIL?!!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Allie-wa<3 on September 17, 2012, 12:06:17 PM
Solid copy, much thank! I need more good book series. You guys read Gone?
Oh my goooood, Gone is perfect. I've gotten so many people to read it! cx

You guys are smart about not reading the rest of the series until Light comes out...Gah, SERIOUSLY APRIL?!!
I hope it comes out before my birthday so I can ask for it as a present! :D
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Allie-wa<3 on September 17, 2012, 12:06:54 PM
@staif no need for all caps, I just get excited.
@Fanna WAY better. Allie-wa and I have both read BR and we love it.
Yes, yes. Way better.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on September 17, 2012, 04:19:08 PM
Ain't seen either of those happen in the books...enchant the hole so he can't disapperate, make it deep enough he can't climb out, and seal it with concrete and steel.
And by TONS you mean maybe 300. Against what the American magicial community could deploy;
A full division of soldiers (14000 personnel), including two regiments of foot soldiers (Marines, probably) and one armoured division (M1A1 Abrams MBT's, Bradely and Stryker IFV's, supply vehciles, Paladin artillery pieces, MLRS vehicles, and all backed up by two tactical air wings of fighter/bombers and dedicated strike aircraft. ALL of who are trained (at least somewhat) in magic.
Not that you really need it...ain't no amount of magic can prepare someone who's never seen a Muggle war vehcile from pissing themselves. Hell, something tells me the Death Eaters would lose quite a few of their fighters to them picking up live grenades...

..... You seriously remind me of my little brother and his friends. A bunch of kids who are all “OMG MILITARY CRAP CAN BEAT ANYTHING. YEAH, LET‘S JUST SHOOT EVERYTHING AND DROPS BOMBS ON STUFF AND BLOW IT ALL UP BECAUSE WE CAN“.

Anyway, Gone is amazing. I‘ve even drawn fanart for it :p
.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 17, 2012, 04:20:58 PM
Sorry...this is, word for word, what I wrote when I was reading the last couple books...I don't think this anymore honestly...

Gone fanart? Can I see?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on September 17, 2012, 04:27:55 PM
It honestly made me laugh, it sounds so much like him which is kind of creepy...

I‘ll post some of it later. It‘s not very good, though
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 17, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
I was gonna read gone, but the books gone mainstream. :| *stupid puns*
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 18, 2012, 04:25:56 AM
It honestly made me laugh, it sounds so much like him which is kind of creepy...

I‘ll post some of it later. It‘s not very good, though

Whadda you mean its gone mainstream? I didn't even know it existed till I was in freakin' Germany...

And I'll see what you have, Era.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 18, 2012, 08:41:47 AM
I was gonna read gone, but the books gone mainstream. :| *stupid puns*
Yeah, it's so not mainstream. Most people don't know about it and there's no movie in plans so it's still alright.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Bea-la on September 18, 2012, 09:28:15 AM
I was gonna read gone, but the books gone mainstream. :| *stupid puns*
Dude Transformers is like 200 times more mainstream.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 18, 2012, 08:47:22 PM
You sure Gone is not mainstream? It is in Asia... I see many ppl with it, and it was just in the "bestseller" section for many bookstores.

Oh, finally spotted a Goliath at the local bookstore chain in the "Bestseller/recommended" section. Finally... Oh wait, they don't have the previous 2 books, genius bookstores...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Allie-wa<3 on September 18, 2012, 09:06:59 PM
Gone is definitely not mainstream. My English teacher and all the people in my English class have never heard of it, until I recommended it to them. Most of my friends who read 24/7 had never heard of it until I recommended it. It's not mainstream... Yet.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Bea-la on September 18, 2012, 09:11:17 PM
You sure Gone is not mainstream? It is in Asia... I see many ppl with it, and it was just in the "bestseller" section for many bookstores.

Oh, finally spotted a Goliath at the local bookstore chain in the "Bestseller/recommended" section. Finally... Oh wait, they don't have the previous 2 books, genius bookstores...
Well maybe its mainstream in Asia, books sales are different around the globe.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 19, 2012, 01:03:23 AM
You sure Gone is not mainstream? It is in Asia... I see many ppl with it, and it was just in the "bestseller" section for many bookstores.

Oh, finally spotted a Goliath at the local bookstore chain in the "Bestseller/recommended" section. Finally... Oh wait, they don't have the previous 2 books, genius bookstores...
Well maybe its mainstream in Asia, books sales are different around the globe.

Yeah, and it's annoying we don't ever get any steampunk books here. Stupid sales trends...
Then again I get to import it from overseas and own something rare! *hipster mode activate*
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 19, 2012, 07:15:19 AM
I hear the book is WAY better than the musical.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 19, 2012, 01:30:15 PM
No need to elaborate, my sister was going to get rid of her copy but instead gave it to me so I'm going to read it right after I finish the last Maximum Ride book. SO, I will then be able to matriculate the accuracy of the Oz-ocity.(I felt like semi-rhyming there)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on September 19, 2012, 01:48:19 PM
GOne is not mainstream! When fear came out...I had to ask them to get it from the back for me. It was already the second day it had been outz
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 19, 2012, 01:52:12 PM
Funny he should mention Max Ride (posts rant against it AGAIN)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 19, 2012, 07:10:41 PM
GOne is not mainstream! When fear came out...I had to ask them to get it from the back for me. It was already the second day it had been outz

Like I said, different marketing trends here. There's only 5 million people here...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on September 20, 2012, 01:27:57 PM
only.....that was sarcasm right? please tell me that was sarasm
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 20, 2012, 01:32:21 PM
What, regarding Max Ride?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on September 20, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
No. Never mind.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 20, 2012, 06:01:40 PM
I attempted to read Max ride awhile back... The 1st I picked out was "School's out - forever" or something like that. I read a few chapters in, and went like Dafaq is this shit. I realized it was like the 3rd-ish book, so i returned it and got the 1st to read. It was terrible. All I can say is :

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25490317.jpg)

I'm sorry, I just don't like it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 20, 2012, 07:19:26 PM
Ha ha, nice! It really is bad isn't it?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 20, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
More like confusing... as for the storyline... well, I always hated fantasy to begin with... Now you cross humans with wings...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Bea-la on September 20, 2012, 09:07:45 PM
I've never read the Max. Ride books.  :P  However I've never been a big fan of James Patterson's writing style.  I don't know why its kind of confusing.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 20, 2012, 09:45:46 PM
From reading the wiki, the whole Max Ride plot seems very eco-friendly.  ;D
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 21, 2012, 03:01:38 AM
The idea is wonderful. The execution, however, leaves quite a bit to be desighered.
Now, if we were to turn it over to say, Scott, or Rick Riordan, or Philip Reeve, I think we'd come out with something much, MUCH better.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 22, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
You have to be a certain age for Harry to work for you I think.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 22, 2012, 01:53:44 PM
I was in...5th grade when I stopped really caring for HP. About the time book 4 came out. So...anything younger than 13 I think.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 22, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
I ready until the 5th book, then they kind of repeated so I just watched the movies.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 23, 2012, 12:14:12 AM
I have the HP 1-4 in DVD, never read the books through, only watched the 1-4 movies, then 7 part 1... and I'm not really caring too much about. it. meh.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 23, 2012, 03:28:57 AM
That's because part 1 of the movie kind of sucks, part 2 is much better.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 24, 2012, 12:45:14 PM
FIRST ORDER OF BIZ: MAXIMUM RIDE IS NOT TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!! The first 3 books were actually very good and had little to do with the environment crap, books 4-6 were BAD(4 was the worst and then they got a little better but never back to how they used to be after that). The last couple books were sketchy, kind of good but not up to par.

Second order of biz: @Fanna I meant I would read Wicked; I've read the original Oz a long time ago.

Third order of biz: the original L.J. Smith books are good . . . they aren't the trashy soap vamp/supernatural books that are being put out under her name now despite being ghost-written because the tv channels stole the rights from her.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 24, 2012, 12:48:15 PM
1-3 were solid, but not SPECTACTULAR, how about that.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 24, 2012, 12:52:21 PM
That's good, 1-3 are formidable books in which it depends rather on your style of reading material you like, etc. on whether you like it or not. Books 4-6 had even the biggest of fans snarling in disgust.  I get that Patterson was trying to be a good activist and help nature and all, but instead of making the entirety of 3 books about the environment give us real entries to the series and post Max saves the environment short stories on a website.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 24, 2012, 12:53:28 PM
Word. Though, I gotta say; PLOT HOLES. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 24, 2012, 12:56:10 PM
Yeah, that too. And it doesn't help when you rerelease the older books in the series and make some weird division in them like they are 2 separate series.(the first 3 were called something and then the next 3, one was The Guardian series or something).  And then you add in characters in some of the books that never turn up EVER AGAIN.(I'm talking about the later books once again)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 24, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
It happened in the earlier ones too. The FBI agent from 2. The other recombiants. The Director (Though I have my own headcanon why she didn't show up, mainly with her thinking she's safe but being attacked and executed with tears in her eyes by a squad her own creations...and that's why you don't recombinate an Air Force pilot.)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 24, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
Probably as long as the books themselves!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 24, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
Yeah, the FBI Agent, etc. I always figured was taken care of by the white coat mafia. The recombiants *SPOILER* do get a viable ending in the final book, sort of.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 24, 2012, 01:09:28 PM
Really. The ones the Flock released in like, book 1?
And I still like my head canon better...actually, anyone interested in a Max Ride RP? Had one going for a while now but everyone doing it left except me, Lexa-wa and Kimeronica.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: TractionEra on September 24, 2012, 02:48:37 PM
Is that series worth reading? I tried once, but it ended up on my list of unfinished books.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 24, 2012, 02:51:10 PM
If you have nothing else to read. It's pretty much what human fabrication could do...but theres a lot of wasted potential.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 25, 2012, 10:44:43 AM
Is that series worth reading? I tried once, but it ended up on my list of unfinished books.
It's one of those series that's good to get lost in on a holiday. I would wait until winter holiday and read the ENTIRE series in one go.(which is very viable)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 25, 2012, 11:51:29 AM
3 pages each or so yep.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on September 28, 2012, 01:11:40 PM
YES! Max Ride and Uglies in 6th grade are what got me reading. Max Ride was first though and the short chapters were part of it, it was hard to put down, always thinking,"Just one more chapter". And then Uglies came and I was into dystopias.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 28, 2012, 04:46:01 PM
I stoped reading around like 10-11 ish. Was reading the geronimo Stilton stuff back then. I guess I read all of dan brown's stuff when i was 12, but did not really thought much of them. Liberator got me reading again in 2010. 1st steampunk book 1 read, and it was just a book i randomly pulled of the "new releases" area, without actually reading the blurb on the back...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 28, 2012, 04:47:59 PM
And now you've been sucked down the hole with us eh?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 28, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
I read him when I was 10. He's quite easy to read at that age if you know what he talks about...I focused mainly on the tech stuff.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 28, 2012, 05:14:41 PM
I liked that. Graphicness never bothered me as a kid...I beta-tested Halo 1 around the same time, and I watched war movies on TV without a grimace or squeal...but I was terrified of movie theaters. For real.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 28, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
I mean all graphicness. And my life was the exact opposite. My parents were open about EVERYTHING. Probably why I was so into reading and still am.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 28, 2012, 08:39:13 PM
Yeah i guess it was violent... Like all the books involved some guy getting killed and stuff... A few books also had sex/rape scene i guess. Well it was targeted at adults, not kids. But it's pretty mild I guess...

Besides, I know of some people who's parents won't let them read/watch the hunger games cos of the violence. And my dad's reaction to hunger games was : I dun geddit.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 01:02:03 AM
Works for me.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 02:04:21 AM
I didn't mean that kind of graphic necessarily...I thought there was like a rape scene in it or something?  IDK my parents never let me read it because they did and said it was "disturbing."  Story of my horribly sheltered life  :(

You and be both. My parents didn't censure what I read too badly, but they would make sure what I was reading was age appropriate. Or at least they did until I was 15 and I just started reading all the books my friends read.
 Though why did your parents stop you from reading Dan Brown? He's not bad, my dad has us do a family read on a couple of his books. 
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Post by: dauntlessbookthief on September 29, 2012, 02:09:07 AM
I don't know if has been mentioned, and I pray that none of you have been interested or involved in this series, but the honestly, (though I didn't personally read it) The Fifty Shades series is nothing but hardcore dom/slave pornography in a three part series. It is sick and disgusting how many people are buying and reading this and how it's sold more than Harry Potter.
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Post by: Seth-la on September 29, 2012, 08:47:03 AM
What is TBQH? Oh and Angel, I had heard that as well.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 09:34:07 AM
I don't know if has been mentioned, and I pray that none of you have been interested or involved in this series, but the honestly, (though I didn't personally read it) The Fifty Shades series is nothing but hardcore dom/slave pornography in a three part series. It is sick and disgusting how many people are buying and reading this and how it's sold more than Harry Potter.
Its the same reason Twilight sold well except aimed at an older audiance. "Middleage Housewife Porn" is what my friend called it...like a Harlequin novel, except you don't feel that shame of buying it...supposedly.
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Post by: Seth-la on September 29, 2012, 09:37:13 AM
At least Twilight didn't actually have the sex though, other than that honeymoon scene in the last book the books were clean.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 09:44:03 AM
And even the honeymoon wasn't supremely explict (much to the dismay of the few girls I know who LIKE the series...suck plasma Cullen)
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 01:43:42 PM
Not sure that matters. My parents were open and I'm probably more of a perv than YOU Fanna
(Cue list of lemons writen for ALL my fandoms)
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 01:47:25 PM
Hence the title.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 01:48:37 PM
What exactly are lemons?
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 01:50:23 PM
Fan written porn. Usually soft-core cutesy stuff. Very common in fandoms that have a large teen female audience (last aproximation of Twilight ones was about 100,000), though most of those tend to be slash...
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
Burning Love. Unless you're talking about Love and War...

Canon, non-canon, canon and OC's, OC's and OC's (yes they exist). As long as its in-universe it counts. Most of it is just cut-and-paste stuff though, take out a couple words and it could be ANY random porn story.

I have yet to find one actually...Link if you're willing?
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
Much thanks! Femslash I can live with honestly.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:17:23 PM
Its my second favorite after straight but that's cause I'm a straight dude. However, there are certain pairs where it just WORKS.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
You people disturb me -_-
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:20:15 PM
That's fine. Straight people bore me. That's why most of my female friends are bi or lesbian.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:25:14 PM
Saw it. And honestly, a lot of book nerds tend not to be straight. Books are a safe place for them. Once again I am the outsider in this; male, straight, a military fan and 20 in a mostly female teen lesbian or bi and civilan grouping.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:30:54 PM
Not on HERE persay but within the book fandom. The cosplayers and the IRL Westerfeld meeting were pretty much all lesbians except for the ONE who ended up being my third girlfriend for a bit...now my third ex.

Yeah, I feel a little strange talking with so many teens and such...it's a little worrying. Like, I shouldn't be this into this stuff because it's for KIDS or whatever...
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 02:33:14 PM
I actually think that we might be the 3 oldest on here.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:34:05 PM
I think Krista-la counts too, she's like, 11 days younger than me.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:38:13 PM
I started a little later, I started Uglies once but never finished, then Leviathan came out and I read that and loved it, then I finished Uglies and loved it...
A note about the IRL meetings...they're full of spags. Lots of people asking dumb questions. I STILL don't know how fabrication works and if human fabrication is plausable outside of Britian because peope were asking if Deryn and Alek were gonna get married!


So, all the old guard who were on here when the site opened and some of us newer people.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
18 and 19 are still teens.

I really started getting into Scott 3 weeks after his visited my state and went to a city that's only an hour away from where I live.
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Post by: dauntlessbookthief on September 29, 2012, 02:40:44 PM
I'm 20. Not a teen! lol
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:41:46 PM
Nice.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
Its an insult I thought up myself, refernce to SpagBol. Tally hates it so I thought it would make a good swear word...No clue what it means. Just sounds cool, and it's four letters.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on September 29, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
The Fifty Shades series is such crap... the sex scenes are so laughable, and I hate how they make Dominant/ Submissive relationships seem abusive.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
I have actually read a little, and it REALLY is assended fanfiction. I read three pages on the flight home from German and another eight out of boredom at a block watch and I had to keep myself from falling to my knees laughing.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on September 29, 2012, 02:50:22 PM
Totally. For example, the main male character seems to know everything about sex, yet he doesn‘t seem to know that women can still get pregnant on their periods. Yeah, you totally know a lot about sex bro....
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Post by: dauntlessbookthief on September 29, 2012, 02:52:02 PM
You read it Rai?
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on September 29, 2012, 02:54:17 PM
I haven‘t read it start to finish. I started, but then I just skimmed through to the end. :I I couldn‘t handle the stupid.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:54:28 PM
Fanfiction, like I said. That, and he's SUPPOSEDLY really powerful and high-up in Seattle's political stuff.
HA. HA. HA. No, no way in HELL. I'm a Seattlite; rich people DO NOT GET POWER HERE UNLESS THEY ARE SELFLESS LIKE BILL GATES AND/OR REALLY REALLY ALTERNATIVE. And that does NOT mean abusive Dom/Sub relationships.
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Post by: dauntlessbookthief on September 29, 2012, 02:54:59 PM
About to say, you seem more sophisticated that to read that kind of stuff.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 02:55:56 PM
Hahahaha YES!!! I need to read that I love laughing at stupidity like that!

It is in my college's bookstore, but I don't wanna use up my gift certificate on it....seriously, there's so many books that I want to read but not buy.  I need to find a library around here!  I'm not sure if college libraries have fun books at all...


Look on the new release shelf.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on September 29, 2012, 02:56:12 PM
About to say, you seem more sophisticated that to read that kind of stuff.
I was super curious. :I
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Same reason I checked it out. I was stuck on a plane for 10 hours and I'd run out of books.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 03:03:22 PM
My bet, arts. My University had a science, law and a normal library. So I can tell you 50 shades will not be in the first two types of libraries.   
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 03:03:40 PM
Doubt it will be in a college. Try a public library if you have them. If not, check a bookstore and ask at the desk.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 03:04:55 PM
Straif, you would be surprised what I have found at my University's library.
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 03:06:24 PM
Community college, never been to a University library...
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 29, 2012, 03:07:44 PM
Yeah, University's  a LOT bigger selections Starif,
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Post by: Straif on September 29, 2012, 03:08:05 PM
You don't say XD. Its probably in there somehwere then.
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Post by: Nina-Chan on September 30, 2012, 02:07:28 PM
i really dont like the midnighters series. It is awful. I do keep in mind though  that Scott had some "help" while writing it (from a company called "alloy" mind you) so I don't blame him. Blue Noon was better than a lot of books out there and I doubt he had much freedom. Scott definitely made up for it with uglies.
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Post by: Straif on September 30, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
And Leviathan after it.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on September 30, 2012, 02:16:02 PM
Then loss some points with Peep.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on September 30, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
Wanted to pick up Peeps at a book sale. decided against it... I'm not going to break my steampunk book reading streak till the end of this year.

Also, My school library has the most pathetic selection of books EVER.

Only Alex Rider, HP, A series of unfortunate events... and some biographies stuff...
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Post by: Seth-la on October 01, 2012, 11:31:46 AM
i really dont like the midnighters series. It is awful. I do keep in mind though  that Scott had some "help" while writing it (from a company called "alloy" mind you) so I don't blame him. Blue Noon was better than a lot of books out there and I doubt he had much freedom. Scott definitely made up for it with uglies.
REALLY? I LOVED Midnighters, it isn't as good as Uglies but they are two genres so you can't really compare.
I've never been overtly in love with Leviathan, it kind of took some work for me to finish.
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Post by: Bea-la on October 01, 2012, 09:29:55 PM
i really dont like the midnighters series. It is awful. I do keep in mind though  that Scott had some "help" while writing it (from a company called "alloy" mind you) so I don't blame him. Blue Noon was better than a lot of books out there and I doubt he had much freedom. Scott definitely made up for it with uglies.
REALLY? I LOVED Midnighters, it isn't as good as Uglies but they are two genres so you can't really compare.
I've never been overtly in love with Leviathan, it kind of took some work for me to finish.
I loved Leviathan, in terms of steampunk books (its my favorite :) ) but in terms of general books, I liked Uglies way better. 

And am I the only one here that read So Yesterday? I don't care what people say that book, is the forgotten Westerbook. It's freaking awesome.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 02, 2012, 12:14:16 AM
i really dont like the midnighters series. It is awful. I do keep in mind though  that Scott had some "help" while writing it (from a company called "alloy" mind you) so I don't blame him. Blue Noon was better than a lot of books out there and I doubt he had much freedom. Scott definitely made up for it with uglies.
REALLY? I LOVED Midnighters, it isn't as good as Uglies but they are two genres so you can't really compare.
I've never been overtly in love with Leviathan, it kind of took some work for me to finish.
I loved Leviathan, in terms of steampunk books (its my favorite :) ) but in terms of general books, I liked Uglies way better. 

And am I the only one here that read So Yesterday? I don't care what people say that book, is the forgotten Westerbook. It's freaking awesome.

I really liked Leviathan too

(http://memecrunch.com/image/4fe5193818613320da0047c8.jpg)
But steampunk is my favorite genre of books.

I need to get around to reading uglies, still... Probably next year... Keeping the steampunk-only reading streak.

Still don't have a fav steampunk book, i guess Leviathan can qualify.
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Post by: Seth-la on October 02, 2012, 07:43:12 AM
i really dont like the midnighters series. It is awful. I do keep in mind though  that Scott had some "help" while writing it (from a company called "alloy" mind you) so I don't blame him. Blue Noon was better than a lot of books out there and I doubt he had much freedom. Scott definitely made up for it with uglies.
REALLY? I LOVED Midnighters, it isn't as good as Uglies but they are two genres so you can't really compare.
I've never been overtly in love with Leviathan, it kind of took some work for me to finish.
I loved Leviathan, in terms of steampunk books (its my favorite :) ) but in terms of general books, I liked Uglies way better. 

And am I the only one here that read So Yesterday? I don't care what people say that book, is the forgotten Westerbook. It's freaking awesome.
I read So Yesterday when I first bought it in 6th grade, I need to reread it though because I think I would get it better now, some of the references just go over a 6th grader's head in that one.
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Post by: Bea-la on October 02, 2012, 09:08:24 AM
i really dont like the midnighters series. It is awful. I do keep in mind though  that Scott had some "help" while writing it (from a company called "alloy" mind you) so I don't blame him. Blue Noon was better than a lot of books out there and I doubt he had much freedom. Scott definitely made up for it with uglies.
REALLY? I LOVED Midnighters, it isn't as good as Uglies but they are two genres so you can't really compare.
I've never been overtly in love with Leviathan, it kind of took some work for me to finish.
I loved Leviathan, in terms of steampunk books (its my favorite :) ) but in terms of general books, I liked Uglies way better. 

And am I the only one here that read So Yesterday? I don't care what people say that book, is the forgotten Westerbook. It's freaking awesome.
I read So Yesterday when I first bought it in 6th grade, I need to reread it though because I think I would get it better now, some of the references just go over a 6th grader's head in that one.
That's so funny, I read So Yesterday in 6th grade also! Bwahahah I remember in 6th grade I checked Uglies out of the school library,then for the next few weeks didn't read anything but Westerfeld.  (I think the order was Uglies, Pretties, Specials, Extras, Bogus to Bubbly, Leviathan, Behemoth, So Yesterday, Midnighters 1)
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Post by: Seth-la on October 02, 2012, 01:13:36 PM
i really dont like the midnighters series. It is awful. I do keep in mind though  that Scott had some "help" while writing it (from a company called "alloy" mind you) so I don't blame him. Blue Noon was better than a lot of books out there and I doubt he had much freedom. Scott definitely made up for it with uglies.
REALLY? I LOVED Midnighters, it isn't as good as Uglies but they are two genres so you can't really compare.
I've never been overtly in love with Leviathan, it kind of took some work for me to finish.
I loved Leviathan, in terms of steampunk books (its my favorite :) ) but in terms of general books, I liked Uglies way better. 

And am I the only one here that read So Yesterday? I don't care what people say that book, is the forgotten Westerbook. It's freaking awesome.
I read So Yesterday when I first bought it in 6th grade, I need to reread it though because I think I would get it better now, some of the references just go over a 6th grader's head in that one.
That's so funny, I read So Yesterday in 6th grade also! Bwahahah I remember in 6th grade I checked Uglies out of the school library,then for the next few weeks didn't read anything but Westerfeld.  (I think the order was Uglies, Pretties, Specials, Extras, Bogus to Bubbly, Leviathan, Behemoth, So Yesterday, Midnighters 1)
LOL It's been 5 years now since I've read it. I read Uglies series, Peeps, Midnighters, The Last Days, So Yesterday, and then Leviathan 3 years ago.
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Post by: Allie-wa<3 on October 02, 2012, 01:27:07 PM
I read So Yesterday in 6th grade too. :D

Honestly, out of all the Westerfeld books, I liked Peeps and The Last Days best. Dunno why. I just do. :3
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 02, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
I loved Peeps. :3 Parasites and vampires, how could Rai NOT love it? XDD

Also, to discuss a book everyone seems to dislike but I enjoy, The Manual of Aeronautics. I mean, I don‘t like Leviathan, but I liked this book. I love looking at the artwork and such, and it is pretty neat. Anyone who complains about how booooring it is and how they wanted background information and drawings of every. Thing. In. THE. SERIES. really needs to back the f*ck up and give Scott a break.
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Post by: Straif on October 02, 2012, 02:05:03 PM
It was nice. But it needed more background info.
I MUST HAVE MY INFO.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on October 02, 2012, 02:11:23 PM
Nope. I've only ever seen the Uglie's series and Bogus to Bubbly.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on October 02, 2012, 02:20:11 PM
Wonder why it never became popular?
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on October 02, 2012, 02:23:31 PM
Nope.
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Post by: Straif on October 02, 2012, 03:09:40 PM
Read a similar one about Halo.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 02, 2012, 07:02:47 PM
I loved Peeps. :3 Parasites and vampires, how could Rai NOT love it? XDD

Also, to discuss a book everyone seems to dislike but I enjoy, The Manual of Aeronautics. I mean, I don‘t like Leviathan, but I liked this book. I love looking at the artwork and such, and it is pretty neat. Anyone who complains about how booooring it is and how they wanted background information and drawings of every. Thing. In. THE. SERIES. really needs to back the f*ck up and give Scott a break.

The book was pretty bad IMO, even if u exclude things about background info/more stories. It was marketed as a guidebook, and did not meet my expectations as a guide. Well, cause guidebooks and art books are double the size of this thing. Also, a guidebook has more statistics, on the items inside. Scott could have made up more crap and specifications on each specific beast/walker  :(

Oh well. That's $18US spent importing it. Well, while browsing through the site i ordered it from, i accidentally marked this book as "lost in mail", just to see what it would do. Annd, it just refunded me my $18 without even a 'confirm' button. Dafaq? Okay... Free MOA I guess.  ;D
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Post by: Bea-la on October 02, 2012, 09:11:53 PM
Honestly I think Scott got kind of burned out on the whole Leviathan thing.  I mean he's been doing that stuff virtually non-stop.  He probably wanted to make on final book to satisfy the fans.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 02, 2012, 09:15:48 PM
Again, it would be much better if the book was bigger. And more high-res. In all honesty the pictures inside aren't really high res, not sure if printer fault or drawing size fault.
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Post by: Seth-la on October 03, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
Hmmm....even though Leviathan is not my favorite, I will have to pick that up one day because I would like to look at it.

What I REALLY want, though, is mind rain!!! Has anyone ever seen it anywhere but online?
I used to see it all the time at a couple of stores I'd go to, BUT since that's been years ago then you probably will only find it online.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 04, 2012, 11:06:21 AM
Honestly I think Scott got kind of burned out on the whole Leviathan thing.  I mean he's been doing that stuff virtually non-stop.  He probably wanted to make on final book to satisfy the fans.
The Leviafans need to give him a break, honestly. The series is over, get over it.
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Post by: Straif on October 04, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
Wonder if there was a similar reaction from the Uglies fans when it ended?
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 04, 2012, 11:47:28 AM
Uglies can go tons of places. Although, I'm satisfied with where it is.
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Post by: Straif on October 04, 2012, 11:51:44 AM
Leviathan has places to go too, but only if you understand WWI and have an interset in the military.
All people that applies to raise your hands.
(crickets, other than me)
Thought so.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 04, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
I understand WWI... of course, with Leviathan it seems like it would be drawn out.
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Post by: Straif on October 04, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
THANK YOU SOMEONE ELSE THINGS SO...two lovers are NOT going to stop a war...I know that much. Despite what Scott says, the war WILL continue. And it will be bloddier and more horrifying than ours.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 04, 2012, 12:00:05 PM
If there was a continuation of Leviathan, it would be nice if it followed another group of characters, like in Extras. If that's the case then I can see it happening. However, Deryn and Alek's story is done. There's nothing much more you can do with it without things getting ridiculous.
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Post by: Straif on October 04, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
I'd like to see Americans other than Malone and Rogers. That's where I'm taking my sequel. Maybe an American in a similar situation to Alek and Deryn? Soldier, I mean, not girl pretending to be a boy.
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Post by: Straif on October 04, 2012, 03:19:54 PM
Especially if one happens to be a girl pretending to be a boy (not very esteamed in this time line I'd think) and the other is an inbred former heir to the an ally to the enemy...no, they won't be stoping ANYTHING. Something that I think Alek could use a bit of eye opening on...preferably by putting him in a room with a captured Clanker, handing him an M1911 and saying "shoot this bastard".
He won't, to which you say "see? You can't kill one person...how do you expect to stop a war?"
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Post by: TractionEra on October 04, 2012, 03:42:52 PM
I think it would be nice if it continued like the Shadow Children series where you follow one character (or group of characters in this case) through a book, then move on to the next character(s) chronologically where the last left off. Ultimately have it so the characters all end up in close proximity, working together. Maybe have Alek and Deryn working for Barlowe on secret missions in their book while in another we follow a group of soldiers on the front lines or something being aided by Alek and Deryn without them taking active roles in the books not focused on them. This way it's a larger group working to end the war without having each individual book be bogged down by a million characters.

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Post by: Straif on October 04, 2012, 04:05:39 PM
I probalby should have thought of that for Darwin's Fist honestly...well, I'm only four chapters in. I can change my style.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 04, 2012, 05:23:52 PM
I hate that style where the story gets seen from different views after every book.

*cough* Boneshaker *cough*. So apparently the next few books involve different main characters. I hate that. Stick with the same people all the way!  :'(

Well, Leviathan can go for a WWII, but then the characters will be kinda old for a teens book and they'll probably go the Infernal Devices way ...
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Post by: MismatchedSocks on October 14, 2012, 02:39:17 AM
I also really liked the Manual of Aeronautics. It was awesome. I expected it to be an art book, and it was.  It must take forever for Keith to do one of those drawings. They're just so detailed. It's a neat book, and I'm glad Scott made it. He didn't have to, but he did to make the fans happy.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 14, 2012, 03:51:22 AM
It's cool, but then, not $18 cool.

Mine practically came free (long story), and that made me happier with it ^_^
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on October 14, 2012, 09:16:57 AM
I also really liked the Manual of Aeronautics. It was awesome. I expected it to be an art book, and it was.  It must take forever for Keith to do one of those drawings. They're just so detailed. It's a neat book, and I'm glad Scott made it. He didn't have to, but he did to make the fans happy.
I really liked the Manual too. I mean, yes, it wasn't super long, but can you honestly blame them for keeping it short? Like Socks said, those drawings had to take a really long time to do. I'd rather have a short book with those amazing drawings than a long book with mediocre drawings.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 15, 2012, 02:12:55 AM
I'm not saying they aren't cool.They're nice, but i mean... well, the simplest way to put it, is it's overpriced. Yep.
If it was cheaper, I would have like it way more.
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Post by: Seth-la on October 15, 2012, 05:11:08 AM
But don't you have to import as well Fuzzy? That's always expensive. Plus you probably got it not long after it came out so you paid full price.
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 15, 2012, 04:49:34 PM
Not only that, but if it had been bigger yet had the same quality, it would have been much, much much more expensive.
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 15, 2012, 11:08:43 PM
I paid $18 US ( including import fees) I think that's the actuall US retail price?

I got mine about 2 weeks after it launched, but no cost was incurred through any form of faster or slower shipping.

But still, I would not mind if they made it thicker (say, 100 pages), and bigger, like normal guidebooks, and charge like $28US. Cos that's the price of other kinds of fictional guidebooks I see.  :(

Oh well, long story short, my MOA is now free, and i got my money back and still keep the book. That makes me like it ABIT more.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: MismatchedSocks on October 18, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
I'm sure Scott wanted to move on, too. I mean, he spent years on the Leviathan series. Scott's just a really cool author, who actually pays attention to fans. He goes out and signs books, talks with fans, has online meet-ups, and does little things like the MOA and the Uglies manga.

I would like to say, that I was one of the people who grabbed the Manual off the shelf, sat on the floor, and stared at the pictures. I looked like a total crazy.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 18, 2012, 01:44:29 PM
I'm the same! Hell, I scared a little kid out of the way for the first copy...poor guy. He was all "yay, picutres!" and I was like "Sod off Clanker or I'll feed you to a loris!"
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 19, 2012, 01:08:10 AM
I'm the same! Hell, I scared a little kid out of the way for the first copy...poor guy. He was all "yay, picutres!" and I was like "Sod off Clanker or I'll feed you to a loris!"

I'll never get to experience queuing up in a physical store to get any kind of steampunk books... D: And Hardocovers are generally non-existent in regular stores here...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: MSB on October 22, 2012, 09:27:59 AM
I used to really hate the Twilight series, obviously because of the story itself, but after a while I kinda just thought, "Well, as long as people are reading."
So I guess now I'm neutral about it. *shrug*
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on October 22, 2012, 09:46:02 AM
I used to really hate the Twilight series, obviously because of the story itself, but after a while I kinda just thought, "Well, as long as people are reading."
So I guess now I'm neutral about it. *shrug*
I get what you mean, it's them taking babysteps. Everyone has to start reading some where.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: artimousguy on October 22, 2012, 11:26:31 AM
I would rather watch the movies because i would get the book faster than reading it
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 11:27:28 AM
Movie adaptations suck. No questions, no exceptions.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: artimousguy on October 22, 2012, 11:36:42 AM
you suck but you are also right at some movies and books unless they made a book based on a movie than it would suck
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 22, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
Some aren‘t that bad. Interview with the Vampire was really good. And the Harry Potter films, even though they didn‘t follow the books exactly, though that‘s pretty hard to do.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 11:41:05 AM
Can't cram 500 pages of plot into 2 hours.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 22, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Unless you wish to sit through 5 hours of boringness (and, if you think about it, most movies based on books would be VERY boring if all details were included.)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 11:44:43 AM
You don't say...the opening of Mortal Engines would have almost and HOUR of the protagonists trudging through mud.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 22, 2012, 11:45:47 AM
I couldn‘t even get halfway through Mortal Engines...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 11:49:51 AM
Not surprising. Its an aquired taste in reading and a lot of people are off-put by Hester.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 22, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
I just found it boring.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 11:56:37 AM
Fair enough. Its more of a series for people who like tech and get excited by that then people into character-driven series.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 22, 2012, 12:03:59 PM
I like tech stuff... but Mortal Engines is just... bad. I couldn‘t get into it at all.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 12:05:54 PM
To each their own.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: artimousguy on October 22, 2012, 12:17:38 PM
you said it
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: cece la on October 22, 2012, 12:40:49 PM
you know what books i dont like well heres a start

1. of mice and men i kind of like kind of hate but that might be because my friend told me the ending...
2. the earth my butt and other round thing... i dont like the message it sends to people at some points

 there are probably others but i cant think of them...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: TractionEra on October 22, 2012, 12:59:31 PM
The Uglies was really popular at my elementary school (one of them) but I didn't think anything of it. Still haven't read it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: artimousguy on October 22, 2012, 01:01:39 PM
I just read the uglies not the rest of series want to though
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on October 22, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
You guys are talking about Scott's series right? If so there's no 'The' in front of it, just Uglies.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: artimousguy on October 22, 2012, 02:11:13 PM
yes we are talking about it and I know it doesnt matter to me
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 22, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
Calling it “The Uglies“ sounds dumb. Just saying. And, speaking of books everyone else likes but you don‘t... I really need to finish Behemoth. And start Goliath. So I can say that I actually read them. But.... uuuuuggghh....
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
You do.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: dauntlessbookthief on October 22, 2012, 03:15:36 PM
I need to finish Behemoth..
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 22, 2012, 03:16:31 PM
I need to finish Maximum Ride myself, but it almost HURTS to read the books...I want to strangle Max with a pipe wrench...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on October 22, 2012, 10:48:01 PM
You don't say...the opening of Mortal Engines would have almost and HOUR of the protagonists trudging through mud.

I don't really care what happens to the ME movies, as long as they get made. I'm sure Peter Jackson will see that it's decent at the very least.

But I'm sure shit will get changed, and how people will rage, then get over it. Back in 2007, the biggest shitstorm came when fans found out optimus prime had flames.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on October 23, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
I need to finish Maximum Ride myself, but it almost HURTS to read the books...I want to strangle Max with a pipe wrench...
Which one are you on?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 23, 2012, 09:24:11 AM
Max.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on October 23, 2012, 09:26:21 AM
Ugh, yeah. Max is like a totally different person from the first 3 where she was BAMF to the 4th/5th where she is just nothing and then the 6th-8th where she is a bit better but still not herself.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on October 23, 2012, 09:27:01 AM
And I hear the plotline goes wacky-loopy
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: artimousguy on October 23, 2012, 11:29:45 AM
You don't say...the opening of Mortal Engines would have almost and HOUR of the protagonists trudging through mud.

I don't really care what happens to the ME movies, as long as they get made. I'm sure Peter Jackson will see that it's decent at the very least.

But I'm sure shit will get changed, and how people will rage, then get over it. Back in 2007, the biggest shitstorm came when fans found out optimus prime had flames.
I know and this kid at my school his parents get him comics so he was so pissed off when captan america was named as the first avenger when it was really ant man
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on October 23, 2012, 11:47:25 AM
And I hear the plotline goes wacky-loopy
A bit, but my problem with it was that the inconsistency with characters/direction.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Beth-la on October 23, 2012, 12:53:39 PM
And I hear the plotline goes wacky-loopy
A bit, but my problem with it was that the inconsistency with characters/direction.
Gah, don't even get me started on the fourth book. Global warming? Was he joking?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: artimousguy on October 23, 2012, 12:56:02 PM
I haven't read them were they good?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on October 24, 2012, 08:33:33 AM
1-3 in the series is THE HOLY TRINITY(my own label for them); 4-5 is the all time low; 6-7 got better but not to previous level of awesome; 8 solid ending, better than 4-6 but you would never guess the ending because it's totally inconsistent with the rest of the series.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 07, 2013, 11:08:07 AM
City of Lost Souls, it felt wrong :(
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 07, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
I simply haven't read twilight. I abstained from reading THG until all three books were out. Same with inheritance cycle.
Problem with Inheritance: the overall plot is good, but several of the key characters fit into stereotypes all too well, and arya, one of the main characters, lacks depth. The plot also ends halfway through book 4, and after that it's just the compiled four books' falling action.

Also, I have a problem with the mortal instruments: Clare wrapped up her plot nice and neatly in book three. Then she writes another book.  >:(

Further: I felt that Mockingjay wasn't very good: I'm all over the feminine figurehead leads rebellion against evil corrupt government thing after Eon and Eona.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 07, 2013, 12:52:22 PM
I liked Mockingjay . . .

And SoLS jsut had too much pointless romance.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 07, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
I like it because its one of the few teen books to show a real war. I wanted more brutal Capital people killings though. Gales plan and his bomb were good steps...but it needed more flesh-eating nanos.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 07, 2013, 01:17:51 PM
His death wasn't good enough, yes. The plan they had was pretty solid, but NO Katniss has to go and screw it up...
whatever, his death is hella slow in my Halo/HG crossover...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 07, 2013, 01:21:31 PM
Was it a standard arrow? I read it at like, 11:30 and night and I swore it was an explsovie one...THAT would ahve been wicked cool. If the actual shot doesn't kill him, then he'll get blasted into steaming meat chunks...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 07, 2013, 01:23:12 PM
Though in some ways I liked Snow.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on January 07, 2013, 11:00:20 PM
By the time I was into mockingjay, i was already wondering whatever happened to "hunger" or "games".

The 1st book is best. It was kinda unique although it was not a new idea. Kinda derped from then on.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 03:07:46 AM
As usually happens with books of that type. Catching Fire really showed it.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 05:22:22 AM
Don't tell that to that DA girl who keeps putting pictures of him up...personally though, I just found him SAD. He's shown as such a threat in the books (from Katniss's eyes anyway) and like most other supposedly insurmountable villians I can name 8 or nine other people who could grease him without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 06:49:21 AM
Wasn't thinking that, but it doesn't matter.
As for who the girl is...http://13foxywolf666.deviantart.com/
Seems she's into the Capital as well. Better not mention my idea of having the Brave New Horizion flatten it under a hail of MAC rounds in my fic...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 08, 2013, 12:11:48 PM
THG set a trend for dystopia genre books, it had the massive popularity of a fairly easy read combined with a great idea, and good publishing.
I still like uglies better. I like extras better than uglies though... The system intrigues me.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 02:02:56 PM
I remember her (Katniss) mentioning that he had white hair. Other than that I saw him shaven if nothing else.

The Capital is like Tally's city; a playground for grownups basically. Everyone wants to live there. (Except me apperently...)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 08, 2013, 02:08:28 PM
I wonder where all the districts are physically located, 12 is obviously in the Appalachian/West Virgina area, and 11 is the Mid-West "Bread Basket"
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Good question...my gut tells me 3 and 4 are the West Coast (3 Washington maybe, cause of our tech stuff, and 4's probably Cali). Not sure about any of the others though. I THINK 6 might be Minnisota and that area, cause they're transportation.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 08, 2013, 02:14:13 PM
2 is in the Rockies, because of the whole fortress thing, but remember, how the rebels had to cross the Rockies, so 3/4 couldn't be west of them, unless the Capitol is where Denver is (about)
My guess would be that 4 is actually in the New England area, and I don't know where 3 is. Maybe New York (Schenectady)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 02:16:25 PM
Wait...are the Appalacians and the Rockies the same thing? I'm confused...
DAMN IT COLLINS I WANT MAPS YOU HEAR ME! I WANT MAPS AND DATA AND A LIST OF WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED IN THE FIRST WAR!
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 08, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
Based on what I know, 10 is likely in the Texas area.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 08, 2013, 02:21:26 PM
Wait, the wiki indicates 11 is in the south...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 02:26:54 PM
11 and 12 are the south/southwest. The biological make up of the citizens (sic Rue and Thresh) backs that up.
Though then again, we must remember this is the future; America probably looks QUITE different than what we remember. They mentioned rising sea levels. And we have no clue if the Districts are cicurlar in shape or if they're numbered by their date of formation...
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 08, 2013, 02:30:43 PM
Doesn't indicate, just says District 11 is near Atlanta. 9 is grain, so we can safely assume that is in the bread basket. That leas the back woods of wisconsin and Minnesota for 7 (lumber), Chicago or St. Louis is likely for 6 , they're hubs of transportation, and major cities, more than that and it becomes harder.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 08, 2013, 02:34:43 PM
1 is luxery items that could be anywhere
2 is stonemasonry, but that's obviously in the Appalaciens. So anywhere along there.
3 is tech, probably one of the coasts (I like to think West but thats just me)
4 is fisheries, obviously West coast.
5 is power, probably New Mexico and Arizona for the abondant sun for the solar power grid and the Hover Dam and the nuke plants etc
8 is textiles, could be anywhere.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 08, 2013, 02:40:16 PM
1. Most likely near the Capitol.
2. In the Rockies.
3. Anywhere
4. Probably New England, as that's one of the most productive fisheries in the modern U.S.
5. I agree with straif.
6. Could be anywhere.
7. Could be the part of the Appalachians not used by 12, or the Wisconsin Backwoods.
8. Textiles, probably in the south (Louisiana perhaps?)
9. Grain, definitely ND, SD, Kansas, Nebraska, etc.
10. Livestock, Texas area
11. Agriculture, Southeast.
12. Appalachian mountains, West Virgina area.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: gavinfuzzy on January 11, 2013, 03:34:20 AM
THG set a trend for dystopia genre books

...And that, is why, we need the Mortal Engines Movie. Nao.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 11, 2013, 05:47:21 AM
YES YES YES YES.
And they had BETTER NOT SCREW HESTER UP. Five bucks says they make her "pretty ugly" not "ugly ugly."
Come on; if you can't tell who hasn't read the book in the theater when we first see Hester's face they're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 11, 2013, 06:49:27 AM
Last I heard. Peter Jackson is directing it. It WAS supposed to come out last year, but apperently not...Jackson's obviously busy with the Hobbit.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 11, 2013, 12:47:12 PM
Surprised indeed. And honestly GLAD. If he can do LOTR right, he can do Mortal Engines.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on January 11, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
Isn't the industry for District 2 weapons and the main supplier of Peacekeepers?

And I think 7 could be in the Pacific Northwest...isn't that where the logging industry is?  And remember, Panem is located on the land that was once North America, not necessarily the USA.

And I would like to add, District 13 is probably in the Northeast.

I read that whole conversation and that is what I was about to comment on. It is north america...not the US. you aren't the only country ::) The rockies ARE the border of BC and Alerta. I always see those mountains as a Canadian thing :P (maybe that's cause of Banff....)

and 9 could be in the prairies. When I think grain that's where my mind goes.

Sorry this post is very chaotic. My mind is not really paying attention to this post right now but I wanted to get this out.

1. Canada is part of panem too
2. the capital could be up in BC/Alberta-you never know :P (I hope not cause I'd probably be there....seeing as vancouver is most likely underwater)
7. Well, it could be anywhere. But most likely in a place where there is a boreal forest (so if it was north west...it would have to be very very north because the north west is temperate rainforest.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 12, 2013, 09:30:23 AM
Wait, the wiki indicates 11 is in the south...

That actually makes a lot more sense than the Midwest.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 12, 2013, 09:36:56 AM
Not to be racist or anything, but the way that Rue and Thresh were writen kinda reminded me of Southern blacks (ESPECIALLY Rue's family in Catching Fire).
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 12, 2013, 09:39:16 AM
It didn't to me, because I didn't seem them as that dark, but then again this is coming from someone who never met a black in person until she was 15  :-[
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 12, 2013, 09:40:22 AM
Ah, there we go. I had a black friend who moved from Louisiana in 1st grade. Sam. Nice guy.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 12, 2013, 09:44:22 AM
I have no black friends and pretty much only hang out with white girls near my own age. God I sound like such a racist
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 12, 2013, 09:55:49 AM
Neh. Its not your personal choice, its geography.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 12, 2013, 09:57:29 AM
I blame my parents. I mean for real, my hometown is 98% white. 
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on January 12, 2013, 10:34:38 AM
is it weird that I pictured rue as mexican? :P

lol, I know a lot of Nigerians. but that's because they go to my church :P

My town is 90% indian (as in...India). I'm defs a minority :P
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 12, 2013, 11:09:46 AM
What other story?

And it's not that odd. We're just mostly white or Mexican farmhands around here. Which is odd because if you go up in the state a little more there's the highest concentration of Muslum anywhere in the U.S.   
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 12, 2013, 11:13:47 AM
Will you please?  :)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 12, 2013, 11:17:39 AM
K, thanks :)
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on January 12, 2013, 03:22:20 PM
@Luna I'm in the same situation you are. In my area of Missouri there are pretty much no people other than Caucasian.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 12, 2013, 03:36:21 PM
It didn't to me, because I didn't seem them as that dark, but then again this is coming from someone who never met a black in person until she was 15  :-[
OH MY GOD THAT IS UNREAL!!!!!!

I am seriously laughing right now...reminds me of another story...
I never met a black person till I moved south.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on January 12, 2013, 08:13:43 PM
At my 90% white university, we have the blackest girl I have ever met! Lol at first I was like...is this for real? But then I was like...damn. That's just awesome :p
Never a dull moment :p
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 13, 2013, 04:58:33 AM
@Luna I'm in the same situation you are. In my area of Missouri there are pretty much no people other than Caucasian.

Wow, I never saw you as being from Missouri. You don't seem southern to me.   
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 13, 2013, 12:38:03 PM
I always pictured Rue as Indian. <_<
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: kristina-la on January 13, 2013, 01:02:11 PM
glad I'm not the only one :P

it's just always annoyed me that everyone assumed panem was only in america. She said North America so why not have a mexican city?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Seth-la on January 13, 2013, 04:06:42 PM
@Luna I'm in the same situation you are. In my area of Missouri there are pretty much no people other than Caucasian.

Wow, I never saw you as being from Missouri. You don't seem southern to me.
Yeah, contrary to belief, Missourians never really sound southern, unlike Georgia, etc. People in Missouri either sound like ignorant Hillbillies or just normal.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:35:55 AM
Interesting. I never knew that.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Phantom on January 14, 2013, 03:04:58 PM
Charleston is probably your stereotypical southern accent.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 03:22:04 PM
I don't know where that is.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
OH, I've been to SC once. It was fun, but I didn't talk to any of the locals.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 03:49:07 PM
SO CUTE!!!

I saw a sea turtle!

Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
Aw, manatees are cool...

BLEHG there's a Beautiful Creatures add on TV. Why do I have the sudden urge to burn "casters" with a plasma thrower?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 03:52:03 PM
And my friend's sister who I went with stepped on a stingray.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 03:52:18 PM
OUCH
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
SHe was fine.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:00:55 PM
Cool, I've only been to the ocean once.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:07:14 PM
The one they always advertise on TV.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 14, 2013, 04:10:24 PM
Jersey Shore?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:11:29 PM
The one that's named after the girl who lives in the toilets on Harry Potter.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 14, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
Myrtle Beach?
I TYPED OUT THAT EXACT THING.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 14, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
Great minds think alike! *cliche*
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
Yep, that's the beach.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:17:44 PM
Meh, I just go to the lakes.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 14, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
I dunno, I like Hawaii the best xD

..but I hate sand. A lot.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:23:22 PM
You should know that you have been within drivind distance of me -_-
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 14, 2013, 04:25:32 PM
I've only been swimming in a lake once, and I hated it. So I got out and went canoeing xD
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
It's a bit of a drive, but it could be done in a day.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
Only once on a field trip. But it sucked since we spent the whole time waiting for our bus because we were going to Wisconsin.  :(
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
And we had it all planned to, the boys were going to get a deep dish pizza, and us girls were going to visit  the American Girls Store.

You can probably guess this was a long time ago.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 04:39:50 PM
As do I. Like the time I had to look at dead frogs in what used to be a wetland for biology when, not 10 feet away, was a female mechanic working on an upgraded M1A1 Abrams main battle tank...

And I've been to the American Girl Store in Manhattan.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:40:46 PM
for your sister?
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 04:41:37 PM
WITH her technically.
Title: Re: The Unpopular Opinion Book Group
Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:42:07 PM
ah.
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
Yes, I was there a couple years back with my sister, visiting my (now late, it was sadly the last time I saw her alive) grandma and my uncle who lived with her. He, of course, saw fit to take us "Left Coasters" around his "stompin' grounds" (his words exactly), and my sister had heard about the store before we went. So they dragged me along with them.
In vengance, I went to the Lego store afterwards...my GOD was it awesome.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:50:02 PM
lol.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 14, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
Some day, when I have my own daughter I am dragging her there just so I can say that I've gone there.
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
My dad is, via Italy. My mom's from South Dakota. They both moved to Seattle and met here.
And no, we got there just before they closed (we'd spent the whole day wandering downtown, seeing museums and stuff.)
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
Legit Italian. Born there, lived till he was 4, came over ON A MOTHERFUCKING CRUISE SHIP (1955 baby, SERIOUSLY XD) and grew up in NYC.
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:03:56 PM
We should go together. And then like, make all these refercnes to stuff that happens in NYC in fiction. Like, go to the Empire State Building and make PJO reffs...
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:09:53 PM
Can't do it in Seattle sadly...no big fandoms here. We have Hold Me Closer Necromancer though which is nice.

Hehe, that's making my face hurt I'm smiling so much...BURRITO THROW GO!
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:16:07 PM
I KNOW! I was SO DAMN HAPPY when I found out that the Rusty Ruins was Seattle (I mean I figured that it was SOMEWHERE in the northwest, but then Bogus to Bubbly proved it...)
I need to read the new PJ series. I keep putting it off...how long do they spend in Seattle, or is it just a quick mention?
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on January 14, 2013, 05:22:42 PM
Man. Why can‘t any cool books take place in my area? :I You know, ones that don‘t take place on a reserve during the dirty thirties.
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:23:32 PM
Clart. Ehn. I'll live. Leaves ME open to write the next great Seattle-based novel...SPACE NEEDLE BASED ENERGY SHEILD STOPPING NUKES GO!

Sounds good...but beware, those cities are CRAWLING with Twilight fans. I'm not kidding; there are more fans of the series there than locals. They're actually scaring off the local population. My neighbour just moved from there...poor bastard's sister kinda looks like the girl who played Bella, so they basically had to run away...wait, whats in Preston?

According to Scott in the last meetup, the Ruins were SUPPOSED to be LA...but then he moved it north for some reason. Climate actually. And there's obviously some weirdness going on cause Seattle never gets snow...
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
I plan to XD.

They're year BEYOND year round yes.
OH! I KNEW I had heard that name before...I love Napoleaon Dynamite. And yes, they have fan conventions there.

Well, not MUCH. We do get it, but never more than a couple inches not that we need more than one to bring us to our knees
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Post by: kristina-la on January 14, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
Can I just say that highway 99 will always be special to me now because of pj?....oh and I suppose north Vancouver ::)

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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:36:04 PM
"Tots." Nuff said XD.

Heh, yeah...we can't take snow much. We got two inches and school closed for a WEEK.
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 05:47:07 PM
Heh. I can still qoute that film too...I watch it ever summer.
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Post by: Straif on January 14, 2013, 06:21:46 PM
HEH
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Post by: kristina-la on January 14, 2013, 06:27:53 PM
Is it in Mark of Athena?  I'm kind of just starting that still...

Son of Neptune :) they were in my city for just a moment but he actually described part of it so I'm happy!
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 15, 2013, 02:21:46 AM
In Lost Hero they come to my state!!! (And were actually less than 2 hours away)   
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Post by: kristina-la on January 15, 2013, 03:31:20 AM
my city isn't even vancouver. it's part of greater vancouver, yet they were there! and only like 5 minutes away from my house! should have seen me when I was reading that part. I was like OMR!!!!!!! OMR!!! PERCY!!!!!!! EEEEEE!! LOVE YOU FRANK (but not....hate his character but AAHHHH he's from here!)
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Post by: Straif on January 15, 2013, 03:37:58 AM
Vancover is cool. They filmed StarGate SG-1 and Supernatrual there.
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Post by: Straif on January 15, 2013, 06:55:05 AM
That is just legit.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 15, 2013, 10:50:16 AM
I HAVE THE GREATEST CAMP HALF-BLOOD T-SHIRT EVER. AND MY BFF HAS A CAMP JUPITER T-SHIRT.

Jees sayin'.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 15, 2013, 10:52:10 AM
Well the Camp Jupiter shirt was custom (I bought it for her) but I got mine from: poseidon-trident.spreadshirt.com
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 15, 2013, 11:06:41 AM
Isn't it fantastic?! I want one of the hoodies xD
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Post by: kristina-la on January 15, 2013, 11:21:12 AM
mines not really suburb, it's just a city part of greater vancouver.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 15, 2013, 11:43:01 AM
On a sidenote, I now own a blu platic hairbrush like Rachle Dare  :)
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on January 15, 2013, 04:11:10 PM
Honestly, I can‘t get into the whole Percy Jackson thing... I‘m barely through the first book.
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Post by: kristina-la on January 15, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
It's not for everyone. It light and fluffy. Is that a good way to describe it? I enjoy his writing; it's like...all this bad stuff is going on yet...there's still room for a sense of humor. It's nice to combine a laugh with that dark stuff. Books these days need more comic relief...they are getting to depressing
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on January 15, 2013, 04:18:54 PM
Yeah, I like comic relief and everything.... But this was just too much more me. :I
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Post by: kristina-la on January 15, 2013, 04:22:54 PM
Keep in mind that is is for 12 year olds :p
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on January 15, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
Yeah I know XDD I do enjoy a few books meant for youngin‘s. :p
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Post by: kristina-la on January 15, 2013, 04:33:00 PM
Ooh have you read those books about the bats? (
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on January 15, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
If you mean the Silverwing Saga, then yes. YES YES YES. I discovered them in the first grade, and that‘s how my obsession with bats and all things spooky started :p
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Post by: kristina-la on January 15, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
Eeee! Yay! I love those books! They are so good!

Ooh another good kids book is tale of despereaux When I was a kid I must have read it at least 6 times in the span of three years :p
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 15, 2013, 04:54:05 PM
I FREAKING LOVED THAT BOOK!
Kate DiCamillo was one of my favorite childhood authors. I've read The Tiger Rising I dunno how many times
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Post by: kristina-la on January 15, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
Other than Harry potter it was my favourite book. The movie paled in comparison but whatever. At least Emma Watson was in it :p
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 16, 2013, 11:48:22 AM
I never saw the movie. It just looked...weird e-e I felt like it would ruin the beautiful image I had in my head.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on January 16, 2013, 02:01:48 PM
didn't like the movie.
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Post by: kristina-la on January 16, 2013, 02:03:59 PM
I still have the beautiful image in my head :)

I kinda want to re read that now
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on January 16, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
I really want to reread it as well xD
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Post by: Seth-la on January 16, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Totally unrelated to the other stuff being talked about on here, but on topic with the thread. Despite loving Matched(Ally Condie) when I read it, I probably will never read the rest of the series. I just feel no need to continue it. It's like Wither, which I LOVED(of the Chemical Garden trilogy).
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Post by: kristina-la on January 16, 2013, 03:19:17 PM
I actually enjoyed book two more :P that never happens. book three is rather slow and I really don't like ky.

i think the book is just too poetic for my liking. probably why i like Xander's chapters....none of that garbage (ok...not garbage but im not a fan)
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Post by: Seth-la on January 17, 2013, 08:32:51 AM
I actually enjoyed book two more :P that never happens. book three is rather slow and I really don't like ky.

i think the book is just too poetic for my liking. probably why i like Xander's chapters....none of that garbage (ok...not garbage but im not a fan)
Yeah, I totally loved the concept and the book as a whole. None of the characters bugged me or anything, but it just didn't make me feel the need to continue.
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Post by: kristina-la on January 17, 2013, 08:37:39 AM
I'm not a fan of cassia or ky. Xander is more my style. The only problem is...I ruined the name Xander in the superhero rp and carrow will always be associated with harry potter so he has a bad name
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on January 17, 2013, 09:17:45 AM
Xander will forever be the name of a horrible, horrible person to me xD
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Post by: kristina-la on January 17, 2013, 12:04:47 PM
I am very sorry for ruining that name :P I liked that name.....
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Post by: kristina-la on January 17, 2013, 12:05:05 PM
I ruined the name mathew too....
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Post by: Princess Pikachu-La on March 08, 2013, 02:31:35 AM
Reached was so slow.... I only got half way through, then read the last chapter and took it back to the library. >.<
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Post by: kristina-la on March 08, 2013, 02:54:23 AM
It was slow and not exactly exciting. I kept expecting something epicto happen but it never did
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Post by: Princess Pikachu-La on March 08, 2013, 03:02:39 AM
It could have been so different... I wanted Cassia to end up with Xander.
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Post by: kristina-la on March 08, 2013, 03:26:04 AM
i think we all did :P everyone I've talking to like Xander a lot more than Ky. I really didn't like Ky or Cassia though so whatever. they can be together all they want.
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Post by: Seth-la on March 09, 2013, 04:23:34 PM
WAH!!! SPOILER!!!!!!!! Oh well, I was never going to read the 2nd or 3rd books anyway. Matched was interesting, but it didn't have anything that made me want to read more.
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Post by: Straif on July 21, 2013, 07:46:14 PM


The Eleventh Plague- The title's The Eleventh Plague, so you'd thinkthe book would be about the eleventh plague, right? It wasn't. The book looked so good and by the summary on the back it seemed like a good book, but nothing really happened til over halfway through the book. The characters bored me, the plot bored me, and ugh, it just wasn't a good book.


Ironically I actually read this book a few months back and I can half-way agree with it.
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Post by: Terezi Pyrope on July 25, 2013, 10:29:16 PM
I kind of hated Maximum Ride because of sentence structure. I had to re-read it sometimes because of how a sentence was worded. (Sorry if anyone disagrees with me.)
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Post by: gavinfuzzy on July 29, 2013, 09:52:47 PM
I kind of hated Maximum Ride because of sentence structure. I had to re-read it sometimes because of how a sentence was worded. (Sorry if anyone disagrees with me.)

I was afraid I was the only one that disliked it.

Oh well, a variety of reasons contribute to the that. Most prominently, how absurd the whole idea is.
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Post by: holywalrus2 on July 29, 2013, 11:56:14 PM
I kind of hated Maximum Ride because of sentence structure. I had to re-read it sometimes because of how a sentence was worded. (Sorry if anyone disagrees with me.)

I was afraid I was the only one that disliked it.

Oh well, a variety of reasons contribute to the that. Most prominently, how absurd the whole idea is.
Yeah, the science of it was total BS. Being like ten percent bird or whatever would definitely not give you wings. And vertebrates are not able to support those many limbs/appendages. But the book was still okay, not really good enough to be memorable to me.   
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Post by: Straif on July 30, 2013, 05:43:33 AM
(Course we come back to Max Ride XD)
And let us not even GO into the living splot that is Angel...(headdesks so hard head implodes)
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Post by: Seth-la on July 30, 2013, 06:30:01 AM
NO!!!! Not the Maximum Ride discussion again! *changes subject* Has anyone read the Howl's Moving Castle series? (Howl's Moving Castle, Castle in the Air, and House of Many Ways). I LOVED Howl's Moving Castle, liked Castle in the Air, but I just cannot get into House of Many Ways. It's boring and the main character seems like a brat.
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Post by: Straif on July 30, 2013, 06:30:50 AM
There's more to it than just the one book? Score.
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Post by: Seth-la on July 30, 2013, 06:33:43 AM
Yep, Castle in the Air is more of a companion novel set in the same world, but it also has some guest appearances from characters from the first book. I liked it; it was like a new take on Aladdin.
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Post by: Straif on July 30, 2013, 06:35:16 AM
Oh, world expansion...thats always cool!
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Post by: Seth-la on July 30, 2013, 06:48:35 AM
Yeah, you kind of get a look at some of those countries they talked about when they discussed the war at hand in HMC(Howl's Moving Castle).
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on July 30, 2013, 06:49:57 AM
Yep, Castle in the Air is more of a companion novel set in the same world, but it also has some guest appearances from characters from the first book. I liked it; it was like a new take on Aladdin.
It that related to the animated move Castle in the Sky? It was done by the same guy who did Howl's Moving Castle. 
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Post by: Straif on July 30, 2013, 07:05:26 AM
Don't think so...
But, really? SWEET...that whole war thing was kinda confusing.
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Post by: Seth-la on July 31, 2013, 03:47:24 AM
@Luna Actually no, I was surprised too. It's a really weird coincidence. @Straif Yeah, the war was one of the aspects of the book and ESPECIALLY the movie that I really found out of place.
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Post by: BlueberryDoughnut on September 02, 2013, 06:03:09 AM
Don't kill me, everyone, but...I don't love Harry Potter that much. I mean, I like it, and it's interesting, but I think there are a lot of books that are better.

It feels so good to have that off my chest.
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on September 02, 2013, 06:06:49 AM
 :o. That is one thing to which I will never agree. But you are entitled to your opinion.
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Post by: BlueberryDoughnut on September 02, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
Thanks, Pan. (I think this is the first time I've said that and the friend I was talking to didn't act like I was from another planet.)
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on September 02, 2013, 06:16:43 AM
I fancy myself pretty good at accepting people's opinions :)
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Post by: BlueberryDoughnut on September 02, 2013, 06:30:28 AM
And I appreciate it :D

Also, has anyone read the House of Night series?
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Post by: Seth-la on October 12, 2013, 02:48:02 PM
@Blueberry I HAVE! Not all of them, I gave up after the 8th or 9th I think. There was too many of those and they were starting to get majorly stupid. The first books were pretty good, but Zoe turned into a skank. My favorite character had to be Stevie Rae. I also like that whole Native American folklore tie-in for the villain dude(can't remember his name).
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Post by: BlueberryDoughnut on October 14, 2013, 05:12:53 AM
I liked that, too; I thought it gave the antagonist a nice twist, because Native American folklore isn't something you see every day in a book. But Zoey is one of the worst Mary Sues I've read, and I thought that the plot eventually became full of unnecessary tidbits. I also don't like the way the authors portrayed God, but I suppose that's more of a personal pet peeve rather than a universal one.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on October 14, 2013, 05:27:55 AM
I've read those! I loved Stevie Rae, but Zoey made my blood boil too much. I almost got to Temptation, so I made it pretty far into the series...but I just hated Zoey.
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Post by: BlueberryDoughnut on October 14, 2013, 06:02:01 AM
I liked her at first, but after a while I couldn't stand her. Stevie Rae was one of the only characters I liked.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on October 14, 2013, 06:29:56 AM
I liked her in like the first chapter.
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Post by: kay-wathesmokelives on October 18, 2013, 11:44:23 AM
I know I'm probably committing suicide by saying this, but The Fault in Our Stars really doesn't deserve as big of a hype as it receives. It is a nice story, but nothing to fangirl over.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on October 18, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
I know I'm probably committing suicide by saying this, but The Fault in Our Stars really doesn't deserve as big of a hype as it receives. It is a nice story, but nothing to fangirl over.
THANK YOU
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Post by: Eraisuithiel on October 18, 2013, 12:21:33 PM
I know I'm probably committing suicide by saying this, but The Fault in Our Stars really doesn't deserve as big of a hype as it receives. It is a nice story, but nothing to fangirl over.
*high five*

And I can't stand this "John Green Mentality", like "oh I'm just going to mope around a bookstore until I find a boy who will kiss my scars" and this romanticizing depression stuff :I
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on October 18, 2013, 01:00:56 PM
I know that John Green himself is pissed with that whole mentality, I read an interview with him about it, and he said that's not at all what his books are intended for. But, like with most things, teenage girls take it a step too far.
Half the time I'm ashamed to be in certain fandoms because of how ridiculous the fans can be.

Plus, I personally just didnt like TFIOS. The dude irked me.
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Post by: kristina-la on October 18, 2013, 01:02:11 PM
Can I just say that what gets me about John green is...His writing is so much better than most authors out there that I don't really mind that his books aren't actually that special. his books are intelligent and that is what matters to me
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on October 18, 2013, 01:04:04 PM
I like his other books, just not that one in particular.
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Post by: kristina-la on October 18, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
Yeah, i get that. I still enjoyed the fault in our stars. It made me feel something and that doesn't usually happen in books for me (not since Harry Potter).

I think I like Looking for Alaska more just of the ideas presented in it made me feel like I was sitting in Political science all over again :)
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Post by: holywalrus2 on October 18, 2013, 10:10:50 PM
I enjoyed TFIOS, but I understand the annoyance at the fans. A lot of them on tumblr have this really dumb mentality, like "I like a really mainstream thing, but I'm going to pretend it makes me better than everyone else." It's the whole idea that (pseudo) 'nerds' and 'weirdos' are deeper/more unique than everyone else.

Fandoms can get pretty irksome, especially if it's a large fandom that's generally accepted in the normal world.

I really do enjoy John Green's writing, though. And TFIOS is probably the only book that made me cry as much as I had when I read it.
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on October 28, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
Um, now that I've finished reading it: The Darkest Minds. I honestly found it to be boring and predictable, and Liam and Ruby's love always seemed kind flat, if that makes sense. It also seemed like it was supposed to be a big surprise when we found out wih the Slip Kid was, but really, I saw that coming a mile away. And what Clancy did to Ruby was probably supposed to be surprising too, but I figured he was a creep from the start. And when Jack's (his name was Jack, right? It might have been Jake...) dad shot Chubs, still not surprised...
To be clear, I didn't dislike it. I just didn't like it nearly as much as I thought I would, and I never got into it. :P
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Post by: Seth-la on November 30, 2013, 04:33:37 PM
I really don't get all the praise these so called revolutionary authors get. The classic authors, especially American Authors like Fitzgerald or Mellville. I liked The Great Gatsby but it wasn't really anything special, and the romance was barely even there. That is one instance where the movie is better than the book. Classic American literature just seems to prioritize all the wrong things: description/unnecessary details over story.
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on November 30, 2013, 04:34:38 PM
Random question: what about Poe? Do you like his stories?
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Post by: Seth-la on November 30, 2013, 04:40:31 PM
The ones I've read I have liked, but his are mostly short stories. I like the short stories because there is less room for the author to stray from the point, that was the problem with the classic American novelists. The Brit. Lit. novelist are brilliant though. They do add more detail like the Americans tried, but they do it well: using it to give the characters more depth or explore philosophy of the book's themes.
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Post by: kay-wathesmokelives on December 03, 2013, 10:10:05 AM
Yeah, i get that. I still enjoyed the fault in our stars. It made me feel something and that doesn't usually happen in books for me (not since Harry Potter).

I think I like Looking for Alaska more just of the ideas presented in it made me feel like I was sitting in Political science all over again :)

I agree, Stina. His writing is some of the best you'll see nowadays. He definitely is one smart cookie. I feel that Collin in An Abundance of Katherines was one of his easiest characters to write about because it's a basically watered-down personality-wise him.
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Post by: Julia The Bookworm on December 03, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: |ĸιra|‎‎ link=topic=9019.msg1568174#msg1568174 date=13820.
Half the time I'm ashamed to be in certain fandoms because of how ridiculous the fans can be. [quote


yeah, The Hunger Games fangirls make me feel that way.  :(
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on December 03, 2013, 10:52:12 AM
Same here. I love the books, but the fans and seeing it everywhere and all that is starting to be really annoying. I desperately hope that that doesn't happen with Uglies D:
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Post by: Cyanrain on December 04, 2013, 07:34:18 AM
I don't like Doctor Who.

There.

I said it.
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Post by: Ceres on December 04, 2013, 08:34:34 AM
The books or the show?
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on December 04, 2013, 09:55:32 AM
There's books?
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Post by: Julia The Bookworm on December 04, 2013, 10:05:12 AM
Yeah, I think my sister owns five of them or maybe 4.
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Post by: Straif on December 04, 2013, 03:59:37 PM
There are indeed books, and there are books for Torchwood as well.
Additionall, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel both had several.
Firefly had one novel too I think.

Also, on John Green...
Do not speak of him. Simple put at that.
Or, at least, do not speak of his mad fan base.
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Post by: Julia The Bookworm on December 05, 2013, 01:13:26 AM
Fandoms scare me sometimes.
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Post by: Ceres on December 06, 2013, 01:57:34 PM
Fandoms scare me sometimes.
THIS.

Straif, what's the matter with John Green?
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Post by: Straif on December 06, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
His books are too overhyped. I'm okay with books that deserve the hype getting it (Harry Potter, Hunger Games, the Halo novels, Scott's books), but one that DONT deserve it (Twilight, Diary of a Wimpy Kid, etc), just...tick me off.
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Post by: Ceres on December 07, 2013, 11:35:23 AM
Diary of A Wimpy Kid doesn't have the same kind of hype as the others. And personally, I love John Green's books. They definitely deserve the hype, IMHO.
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Post by: Straif on December 09, 2013, 12:06:48 PM
EEHHHH
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on March 24, 2016, 01:05:46 PM
*necroposts*

This is a very delayed reaction and I might have mentioned it before but I didn't like Maze Runner. I thought I would and I really wanted to and I did at first, but ending every single chapter on a cliffhanger is too much. (Spoiler alert because I am going to talk about the end now)


The end really did not live up to buildup at all. Like. Even a little bit. They're all supposed to be super geniuses and they've been working on that maze for two years and not a single person before Thomas thought to overlay the maps? Overlaying the maps was literally the first thing I thought of. Also. Why was there only one girl. They did not actually ever explain or justify it to my memory. Also also. Why, if they need a lot of smart people, would they start killing all the smart children and locking them away where they can't do anything. I mean I get that they wanted to know who was the smartest of the smart children but even the not-quite-as-smart smart people are helpful. And what was up with the telepathy because I do not buy that even a little bit
Although I will give it being one of the few dystopias I've read where everyone was scared it was just a wasteland out there and it actually was
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Post by: Ceres on March 24, 2016, 02:49:58 PM
There was only one girl, and they started killing all the smart people for the same reason: they wanted to test their reactions. The kids were chosen because they were all immune to the flare, and it was thought that their brains had a special 'x-factor' that made them immune. Having a same sex environment, then adding a lone female, putting them in danger, testing their reactions to prolonged trauma - they were observing their brains under these different manipulated variables to try to find the 'x-factor' in the brain, thinking that their neurological reactions to them would highlight it. And the telepathy was another thing WICKED gave them, although I'm not really sure why. These explanations don't really hold up logically from a scientific point of view, but at least there were explanations.
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on March 24, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
Did they explain that in later books? I only read the first one :P

OH. ALSO. MORE SPOILERS. Just straight-up killing the only character I actually liked out of nowhere. Some stories can pull that kind of thing off and make me upset instead of annoyed but Maze Runner did not.
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Post by: Ceres on March 25, 2016, 12:28:13 AM
Yeah, they do :P

What character? :0
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on March 25, 2016, 12:33:02 AM
I forgot his name. I think it was Chuck?
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Post by: Ceres on March 25, 2016, 12:43:21 AM
Ohhh. Oh yeah. Chuck D:
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 12, 2016, 11:54:33 AM
I liked the movie tho :3
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Post by: Ceres on April 12, 2016, 11:55:18 AM
Did you read the books?
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 12, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
NOPE ;D but endless cliffhangers are easier to deal with over an hour and a half.
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Post by: Ceres on April 12, 2016, 11:58:59 AM
True :P I feel like if you read the books, you probably would be annoyed by them tho :P
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 12, 2016, 12:00:18 PM
I agree :D
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Post by: Ceres on April 13, 2016, 02:05:16 PM
This is more of an unpopular opinion about a book series, but whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
WARNING: mega-rant of tangents and run-on sentences ahead.

Ok, why did anyone think that the Hogwarts house sorting system was a good idea? It's a terrible idea, and here's why. Looking beyond the fact that you're segregating impressionable young kids into houses that foster and promote one set of character traits and effectively creating an in-group that thinks of themselves as superior in character, and looking beyond the fact that expression of the various traits of bravery/loyalty/ambition/intelligence vary across situations, and for many people, one isn't valued over the other - like other than that, the existence of the Slytherin house (other than from a storytelling perspective, of course), is the absolute worst idea. It's basically just a convenient holding place for all the evil ones, right? And before you tell me that Slytherin isn't just for evil - yeah, you're right, but only in theory - in the Harry Potter universe, almost all evil wizards that went to Hogwarts are shown to come from Slytherin, and the majority of Slytherins we meet are shown to be either totally evil or just run-of-the-mill jerks. And even those who aren't - Slughorn is the only one I can think of that doesn't have a track record jerkish behavior - are still shown to have prejudiced and high-minded ideals. If I'm dealing with a bunch of 11-year-olds who I saw had some attitudes that could lead them to go down evil paths in the future, some classist/racist attitudes that Purebloods are superior, some dark ambitions...the LAST thing I'd want to do is put them all in the same house! And then the idea that they have a malicious yet superior nature  is reinforced by the fact that all the other houses and even the staff hate them - and for goodness sake, their common room is even in the dungeons! It's a well-known psychological principle that putting people in a group reinforces the ideals of that group, so if you do that for seven years, combined with everyone from outside implicitly and very explicitly reinforcing the idea that they're evil, you can't be surprised when you get people like Lord Voldemort and the Malfoys. Like, what did you expect...? You're teaching these kids really powerful stuff, and equipping with them with tools that can be weapons of mass destruction, so you think they'd want to be mindful of trying not to encourage evil. But no. And another thing: the sorting process itself. The students can supposedly choose their houses, right? But that's a huge decision to make when your 11 years old, and haven't really developed your character yet. And at that age, the hat can't really see "who you are" yet because it's just not that set in stone. Even if the Sorting Hat can see into the future, what house you spend your school years in will make a HUGE impact on who you end up becoming as a person. So if you use that argument, does the hat run a separate simulation of what you'd end up becoming if you went into each of the four houses? But even then, who else in your year goes into your house would also have an effect on you, so that doesn't really hold up either. Even for the people that choose their houses, it'd likely be affected by peer pressure considering their age and circumstance. Even in the Divergent series, they waited until age 16, and we saw what a disaster it was for them. The separation of factions isn't as extreme as the houses of Hogwarts, but the principle still stands. And the end result of that series was that everyone was ideally "divergent" - that humans were naturally well-rounded and could be in any faction, and that trying to value either selflessness, kindness, honesty, intelligence, or bravery as the "best" trait led to a ton of problems. And in Hogwarts, granted, it's a nice system for Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs, and Ravenclaws for the most part - although the system does probably inhibit them/strengthen them in some areas, I guess it mostly comes out even - but it sucks for the Slytherins because hey, screw them, right? But then they screw everyone else over. Maybe ya could've prevented that m8, but even after the whole Voldemort thing, no one still even questions that it's a bad idea.

I realize that was an incoherent ramble -  it's almost midnight, so sorry. But I've been wanting to get this out for awhile now
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 02:09:58 PM
I like the house system as a theory. Some kids are braver then they are smart or smarter then they are brave and if four different people with four different views on virtue made the same school it makes sense to have a system where each can encourage and nurture their virtue. The real problem is, like you said, Slytherin. It's values are leadership and ambition which sounds great but it just means you're throwing all the hyper competitive jackasses in together and they get seven years to talk about how right they are. It's a bad idea. It's a horrible idea.
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Post by: Ceres on April 13, 2016, 02:14:22 PM
^^^^^THIS. Ideally what I think the system should be is:
1. Sort in like third year or heck even second or something so the kids actually get an idea of what the houses are and where they want to be, and get exposed to all of the different ones first.
2. Don't have a Slytherin house. Just have the three. And if you must have a Slytherin, ffs man don't treat them like criminals just for existing
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Post by: Ceres on April 13, 2016, 02:25:57 PM
And another thing right like Gryffindor is repeatedly shown to be the most valued. Gryffindor = brave heroes that always save the day, Ravenclaws = smart, Slytherin = dump of evil, Hufflepuffs = everyone else I guess - nice but useless potatoes. ???
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on April 13, 2016, 02:35:54 PM
At some point I saw someone make another interesting point about the houses, that in general if you split kids up by values like that, the Slytherins will constantly be competing with each other, no one is there to stop the Gryffindors from doing stupid (/"brave") things, and the Hufflepuffs are gonna work themselves to the bone if no one knows when to stop. But the Ravenclaws will probably be okay.
(Also: I feel like you can excuse Gryffindors always being the heroes in the books considering that Harry was in Gryffindor so his friends were in Gryffindor and if the main protagonists of the books missed out on all the action that would not be very interesting)
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Post by: Ceres on April 13, 2016, 02:42:05 PM
Wouldn't the Ravenclaws work themselves to death and the Hufflepuffs be fine? :P

Yeah that's true, but still - even in Dumbledore's Army, even in the Battle of Hogwarts, they explicitly states that almost everyone there was from Gryffindor. Also, Dumbledore giving Harry points for breathing just to let them win the Hosue Cup ::)
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 02:54:47 PM
1: Hufflepuffs would NOT be fine. No one ever said being moral was easy. That and EVERYONE is trying to pass. And not all Ravenclaws are book smart, some are artists, some are savants etc.
2: Well when you're asking for volunteers for something dangerous you're probably gonna get brave people volunteering. Gryffindor value bravery the most out of the other houses so most of them were Gryffindor. Also I'm pretty sure that all of Hufflepuff showed up for the last fight.
3: Dumbledore is biased
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on April 13, 2016, 02:56:57 PM
^^ Basically exactly what I ws going to say :P
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 03:00:40 PM
*Highfive!*

I really like the house system. It works well in theory and it really clicks with a lot of people. But it isn't managed very well. Ten year olds don't understand how to live chivalrously unless you teach them BUT NOBODY TEACHES THEM so you get a bunch of dumb risk takers and HUFFLEPUFF?! Do you have ANY idea how much pressure would be on those poor kids. Then you'd have Ravenclaw students getting depression over exam results and we all agree on Slytherin.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on April 13, 2016, 03:09:59 PM
Okay this is my unpopular opinion on Harry Potter.
All it is is a really good story. A really good and very original story. JK Rowling isn't a phenomenal writer imo and I think there are lots of and lots of flaws in the books and the only reason it's so wonderful isn't the books themselves but what people have made of the books so like over thinking what's in it probs won't get you anywhere because the writing wasn't that great to begin with.
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 03:10:56 PM
Fierce gurl
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on April 13, 2016, 03:13:27 PM
Sorry that came off kind of bitchy. Totes not completely directed at you all, I love talking about this stuff because I like that there's a lot of open endedness in the books  (which I don't think was actually intended but hey who cares) to leave room for these things but like yeah that's just my thoughts on it
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Nonono not bitchy :3 I loved the books I read. She's a good writer. They're good books. She planned out the stories ahead of time and the result is that a lot of stuff links together in interesting ways. But they aren't perfect and they aren't even NEAR perfect.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on April 13, 2016, 03:21:07 PM
Yeah I like that she created this whole entire world but like I first read the books when I was 10 and the series wasn't finished yet and it was definitely easy to see how her writing progressed but like now that I'm older and have read a lot more it's not great . But the story definitely is which is what I think is the best and most important thing about it.
Kind of like Rick Riordan. I will probably be buried with his books because I love the story so much but he is not a very good writer
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
I don't even like the PJ books that much but I'm a bitter old cynic who hates joy and children.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on April 13, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
I'm gonna forgive you for that because of dragonology otherwise IT'D BE OVER
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 03:29:02 PM
I like the concept but I think it should have been taken further. Like, from what I've seen, the Gods aren't very.... Godly? They're people with magic. Woopdefreakingdoo. YOU ARE WRITING A BOOK ABOUT GODS. MAKE THEM BADASS. MAKE THEM HUGE. A TITAN TURNS UP AND HE'S NOT EVEN THAT BIG WHAT IS WRONG RICK.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on April 13, 2016, 03:31:44 PM
Like I said, he's not a good writer. But I'm a loyal book ho and my love for Percy Jackson runs deep
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 03:33:46 PM
I like Percy. And the Hephaestus's kid. And a couple of the others. I just feel like he squandered an opportunity.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on April 13, 2016, 03:35:16 PM
Did you read both series
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 03:36:41 PM
I haven't even finished the first one
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Post by: Ceres on April 13, 2016, 09:45:08 PM
Okay this is my unpopular opinion on Harry Potter.
All it is is a really good story. A really good and very original story. JK Rowling isn't a phenomenal writer imo and I think there are lots of and lots of flaws in the books and the only reason it's so wonderful isn't the books themselves but what people have made of the books so like over thinking what's in it probs won't get you anywhere because the writing wasn't that great to begin with.
This. It's not great as a series as far as writing - I binged watched all of the cinemasins videos for it the other day (yes I know I'm trash) and it made me realize how many plot holes and lazy plot devices there are as far as internal logic of the story. It's kind of like Doctor Who in that respect. What makes it great is the extensive world bluilding and characters and originality. It's being part of the extensive world and its fandom. Which is why what she's trying to do with Pottermore kind of irks me - it feels like she's trying to go in and fill in what she realized was missing and sometimes it just doesn't work.
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 13, 2016, 10:51:34 PM
Harry potter is kind of like a sweater or a blankie. It's not meant to make too much sense. It's meant to be a bunch of kids books that aren't. It's supposed to be where you can turn your brain down, but not off.
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Post by: Julia The Bookworm on April 14, 2016, 02:00:39 AM
I agree with what Clare said. With the majority of YA ( especially middle school level YA.) and children's book series what a lot of people find enjoyable is the stories themselves.

At eleven, ten, or twelve years old most kids are not going to look  for symbolism or complex themes in a fantasy novel they just want to have fun reading about a kid like them having adventures.
It was books like the Percy Jackson series that got me interested in history, mythology, and the general study of different cultures in general.
By the time the second series came about I was around 14-16 and had moved on to other things but the interests that I gained from reading the series stayed.
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Post by: Ceres on April 14, 2016, 02:08:50 AM
Still, even books like Leviathan and Uglies - which aren't perfect, put there still YA and middle grade novels, are capable of being realistic and having complex themes but also being fun and getting readers interested in the subject matter.
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Post by: Ceres on April 20, 2016, 10:00:31 AM
Ok but another unpopular not-really-opinion-this-time: Why didn't Fred and George Weasley notice that some strange guy named Peter Pettrigrew always was around their brother and even slept with him? They obviously studied the map enough to note Dumbledore's pacing patterns, so...also, why didn't they notice that Mad-Eye Moody's name on the map was actually Barty Crouch
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 20, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
Maybe they just didn't look at those people? On the map all that they'd see of Mad-Eye Moody is a name saying Barty Crouch. Okay, there's a dude called Barty Crouch, why would they notice that over all the other names?
Maybe they thought Peter was a classmate?
Maybe they never looked at Ron when he was in bed?
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Post by: Ceres on April 20, 2016, 11:41:01 AM
What about Voldemort on the side of that professor's head?
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 20, 2016, 11:46:10 AM
Tom Riddle :P
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Post by: Ceres on April 20, 2016, 11:51:36 AM
Fair point :P
But still, it would stand to reason that they'd notice some random guy in the Gryffindor common room whose name they never heard of? And that sleeps with their brother?
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 20, 2016, 11:52:38 AM
Yup, but what are they going to do about it?
And as for the sleeping part;

Maybe they never looked at Ron when he was in bed?
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on April 20, 2016, 12:07:11 PM
What I never got about the map was that Hogwarts had a lot of people in it so wouldn't all the names get overwhelming?
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 20, 2016, 12:08:21 PM
^^^^^^

Exactly. They'd have to focus on one name at a time, and they could only find them by specifically looking where they'd be.
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on April 20, 2016, 12:22:30 PM
But they mostly used it at night, when most people would be in their dorms. Maybe that's why they never noticed Pettigrew; his name got lost in the soup in the dorm rooms.
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 20, 2016, 12:27:35 PM
yeah but if you're up at night doing sneaky stuff you're not gonna waste time checking your brothers dorm room :P
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Post by: Ceres on April 20, 2016, 12:53:24 PM
But they mostly used it at night, when most people would be in their dorms. Maybe that's why they never noticed Pettigrew; his name got lost in the soup in the dorm rooms.
This makes sense. Also, the soup? :P
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Post by: GeeBeezy on April 20, 2016, 12:54:10 PM
The soup of names all smushed together
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Post by: Ceres on October 08, 2016, 12:03:14 PM
*necroposts*

So I don't know how popular or unpopular of an opinion this is, but I'm going to express it here anyway: I feel like the quality of Rick Riordan's writing has declined since the original Percy Jackson series. I still enjoy reading his new books, they're funny and engaging reads. but I don't find myself as invested in the characters as I used to be. Maybe it's just the fact that I'm getting older, or that his style of writing isn't as fresh to me, I don't know. But his writing seems really formulaic to the point where it's kinda detracting from my enjoyment of the stories themselves? I feel like most of the characters (especially the gods/mythical creatures/deities) are all unoriginal spins on the same worn-out tropes.
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Post by: Panzercrappitastica on October 08, 2016, 12:08:07 PM
Same. But at the same time I scream about every new book
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Post by: Ceres on October 08, 2016, 12:15:50 PM
Same except I don't really scream I just shell out all my money to buy it, which is like the me equivalent of screams
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Post by: Julia The Bookworm on October 08, 2016, 12:21:36 PM
To be honest I think the other series is were more meant for the younger half of the Percy Jackson fan base that would have been around 9 or so when the last book came out. By the time The Lost Hero came out I was done with it.
I haven't read The Percy Jackson series in like.....seven, eight years? I'm not sure I would like it as much now as I did then but I still I'm interested in a lot of the things that It brought me to because of it like history and greek culture also my oldest nephew loves PJO and that makes me happy.
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Post by: Ceres on October 08, 2016, 12:29:52 PM
I was 9 when the last PJO book came out :P

Yeah, one of the things I really loved about the originals was how it introduced the reader to all these wonderfully rich myths in a funny and accessible way. Now I feel like it's kind of...less about that and more so just falling back on a familiar world building style. I honestly really liked The Lost Hero when it came out, maybe more than some of the originals, but I feel like the series petered out a little at the end.
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Post by: |ĸιrα| on May 01, 2017, 05:58:55 PM
Woah never saw this until now but YES I AGREE. I will probably be buried with all of my Rick Riordan books because Percy Jackson and the Kane Chronicles changed my life and I will read literally anything he publishes, but his writing doesn't grab me like it used to. Which is probably why I'm so slow to buy his books after they come out, I don't have the care anymore to preorder everything he writes a year before its published just because nothing about it is really what I originally fell in love with in Percy Jackson. Even Heroes of Olympus was extremely subpar and there's actually a lot about it that I hated.
But literally I would still die for Uncle Rick because he literally gave me everything.
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Post by: GeeBeezy on May 01, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Uncle Rick