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Title: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Andrew aka awesome on July 19, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
That one move could've changed everything,  Deryn wouldn't have joined the Leviathan, if Deryn didn't join the leviathan she wouldn't have met Alek.  If Alek didn't meet deryn he wouldn't join  the Leviathan then the revolution would've been lost and also Tesla's machine wouldn't have been proven fake.  what would have happened then?
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Post by: Bramblepool on July 19, 2012, 12:09:37 PM
I honestly haven't a clue.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on July 19, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
We'd probably all be speaking german now... (if we were in the levi-verse of corse)
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: sandy5 on July 19, 2012, 01:03:37 PM
It's really wierd to think about that. For example...
Deryn: If her da hadn't died, she wouldn't have signed up for the Air Service. If she hadn't signed up, she wouldn't have gone up in the Huxley and (insert everything you said.)
Alek: If his parents hadn't died, he wouldn't have had to flee, and never would have saved Deryn from "frostbitten bum," which could have led to the officers discovering her secret. Then the eggs might not have survived. (or turned out as well.) They might never have found out the purpose of Tesla's device. Then again, Alek wouldn't have been there to build it and Tesla would probably still be in Siberia.

Wow. Thanks for making this topic, because I had never really thought about how much could have gone wrong if one thing had been the tiniest bit different...
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on July 19, 2012, 01:06:37 PM
We'd probably all be speaking german now... (if we were in the levi-verse of corse)
Not neccicarilly. I would think that the attack on Goliath would have gone much worse, and as such American would have been galvonized into fighting. And after Goliath turned out to be a dud they'd make it better, and then you'd be cackling like a madman as you fried Berlin...
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on July 19, 2012, 01:13:40 PM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/252/me-gusta.jpg)
me gusta

I would love to fry somthing
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on July 19, 2012, 01:16:58 PM
And you will, at some point. In DF you're character will.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on July 19, 2012, 01:27:50 PM
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Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: MonkeyButler on July 19, 2012, 03:55:05 PM
Gah! My mind= (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76zqfKmDL1qfp69m.gif)

It wouldn't be Leviathan anymore! The plot would be entirely reconfigured and WW1 wouldn't even happen!
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: gavinfuzzy on July 19, 2012, 09:36:33 PM
Well, shit would find its way to happen, but chances are, the tension in the war would escalate without Goliath ending it, and Alex and his men would be camping in the alps, waiting for Halo 4 . And Deryn would probably just be an ordinary pilot who would get killed since the war escalated.   ;D
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Bramblepool on July 20, 2012, 01:07:45 AM
Newkirk would be dead.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on July 20, 2012, 01:49:06 AM
There would be fabricated humans. And trenches. And everything that I was hoping for in Leviathan.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: MonkeyButler on July 20, 2012, 07:10:49 AM
And it would all end up with everyone dying. somehow
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: sandy5 on July 20, 2012, 07:20:39 AM
Newkirk would be dead.
Why would Newkirk die?

Also, if Alek had never saved the Leviathan, then Dr Barlow, Deryn, Newkirk, Bovril, and everyone else would've died!
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Bramblepool on July 20, 2012, 09:50:04 AM
You just said why newkirk would die.  The leviathan would have died and so would he.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on July 20, 2012, 11:43:50 AM
Levia-ception!
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Andrew aka awesome on July 20, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
I never really thought of aleks parents dying mattered even though the books and wwi is about that and WWII wouldn't have happened either.     :P stupid me
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Post by: Daft_Prince on July 22, 2012, 12:55:11 AM
The fact that one difference could change everything is brought up a few times, but nowhere more than chapter seventeen.
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Post by: sandy5 on July 22, 2012, 05:51:26 AM
It's like their fates are intertwined...Wow, that really sounded like something from Doctor Who.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Bramblepool on July 22, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
Lol.  That's almost exactly their conversation in Japan.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Daft_Prince on July 22, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
Deryn opened her mouth to argue, then hesitated, a half smile crossing her face. "So you must think we're meant to be together."

One of my favourite lines in the book.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on July 22, 2012, 02:33:20 PM
Probably cause it shows just how thick headed Alek is.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on July 22, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
Yeah (bevis and butthead laugh)
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on July 22, 2012, 02:41:45 PM
Heh heh. Clanker asswipe.
Heh yeah. He didn't know she was a chick. Heh heh.
Dude, what if she was like, you know, BOTH?
Hehe huh hehehehe, yeah, then he'd be like, REALLY stupid.
She doesn't have any thinggies though. Lame.
Hehehe. Yeah. No thingies.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Daft_Prince on July 22, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
...Wtf?
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Bramblepool on July 22, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
*facepalm*  such maturity.
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Post by: Anchorgurl1 on July 22, 2012, 11:29:41 PM
Heh heh. Clanker asswipe.
Heh yeah. He didn't know she was a chick. Heh heh.
Dude, what if she was like, you know, BOTH?
Hehe huh hehehehe, yeah, then he'd be like, REALLY stupid.
She doesn't have any thinggies though. Lame.
Hehehe. Yeah. No thingies.
I laughed a little more then I should at that...
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: gavinfuzzy on July 22, 2012, 11:30:37 PM
Heh heh. Clanker asswipe.
Heh yeah. He didn't know she was a chick. Heh heh.
Dude, what if she was like, you know, BOTH?
Hehe huh hehehehe, yeah, then he'd be like, REALLY stupid.
She doesn't have any thinggies though. Lame.
Hehehe. Yeah. No thingies.
I laughed a little more then I should at that...

And I'm still going like
(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/41961.jpg)
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Anchorgurl1 on July 22, 2012, 11:32:21 PM
Heh heh. Clanker asswipe.
Heh yeah. He didn't know she was a chick. Heh heh.
Dude, what if she was like, you know, BOTH?
Hehe huh hehehehe, yeah, then he'd be like, REALLY stupid.
She doesn't have any thinggies though. Lame.
Hehehe. Yeah. No thingies.
I laughed a little more then I should at that...

And I'm still going like
(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/41961.jpg)
Have you ever seen Bevis and Butthead?
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: gavinfuzzy on July 22, 2012, 11:51:24 PM
nooo....  ???
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Anchorgurl1 on July 23, 2012, 12:01:21 AM
Oh it's on netfilx....it's just a show about two teenage dudes...it's funny....
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on July 24, 2012, 12:39:33 PM
 Yes,   it's very funny.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: gavinfuzzy on July 24, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
Well, Netflix is not available here. XD  :P
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on July 25, 2012, 02:49:22 AM
Youtube!
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Andrew aka awesome on August 10, 2012, 09:54:31 PM
if deryn hadn't gone up in the huxley everyone would be dead anyway because of her alex came and then there wouldn't be a revolution or Kraken attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on August 11, 2012, 01:19:46 AM
Say what now? I didn't understand any of that.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: gavinfuzzy on August 11, 2012, 01:48:33 AM
if deryn hadn't gone up in the huxley everyone would be dead anyway because of her alex came and then there wouldn't be a revolution or Kraken attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

Basically, Alex would still be camping in the Alps... and they would probably get some other crew member to implant the barnacles on the ropes guarding Istanbul...
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on August 11, 2012, 01:54:54 AM
So, the stage would be set for WWI to go out as it did in our world...except, when America joined, they'd bring complete and utter devastation to the Clankers. Airship-mounted GOLIATH II anyone?
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on August 11, 2012, 12:45:42 PM
My ludvig armored zeppelins have those!
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Straif on August 11, 2012, 02:01:55 PM
Great minds think alike, Mr. Tesla. And I have no doubt how great our minds are.
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Post by: Tesla on August 11, 2012, 02:08:53 PM
If I can somehow get my design for the ludvig onto a computer, I can email it to you to use in DF
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Post by: Straif on August 11, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
Yes please! If nothing else, just describe it manually. Though, of course, it'll probably be an American device since you're character/the reincarnation of Tesla in you're body works for DF. Has to, since resident mad-scientist Grey put him back together.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on August 11, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
 Alright.   I'll try to think  of a less clankery  acronym for it.
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Post by: Straif on August 11, 2012, 02:36:42 PM
If nothing else, we'll keep it Ludvig and say that Grey took insperation from Beethoven.
Title: Re: if deryn hadn't gone up in the beastie baloon IMPORTANT
Post by: Tesla on August 11, 2012, 02:39:04 PM
Good idea.   But it uses almost all clanker tech, hell it launches gotha g3 bombers off of the  spine.  And fokker dr1 triplane's.  The barron himself is assigned to the first ludvig
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Post by: Straif on August 11, 2012, 02:48:42 PM
Oh, you're talking about the AIRSHIP! No, THAT can be a Clanker superweapon. I was thinking GOLIATH II...the Ludvig can be all the Germans. The Red Baron must have his time...
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Post by: Andrew aka awesome on August 12, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
if alek was a gym leader what would be his type, steel electricdark or what?
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Post by: Straif on August 13, 2012, 03:29:32 AM
if alek was a gym leader what would be his type, steel electricdark or what?
The bigger question; the hell is it with you and Pokemon dude?
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Post by: ChickWithThePurpleGuitar on August 21, 2012, 06:35:28 AM
High vine viva invite
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Post by: MonkeyButler on August 21, 2012, 08:34:44 AM
Lol, Andrew aka Awesome, I thought your little avatar picture was an eye XD* shot'd for off topic ness*
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Post by: ChickWithThePurpleGuitar on August 21, 2012, 09:52:36 AM
It does look like an eye
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Post by: MonkeyButler on August 21, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
IKR? but then it's just a dog sitting on a pillow. Optical Illusions, yay.
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Post by: ChickWithThePurpleGuitar on August 21, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
Yeah, lol. Cute dog, too.
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Post by: MonkeyButler on August 23, 2012, 08:20:57 AM
Optical illusions are fun.
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Post by: ChickWithThePurpleGuitar on August 23, 2012, 08:50:31 AM
That they are.