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Title: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Eraisuithiel on August 21, 2012, 09:16:52 AM
I‘m sure any fan who‘s any fan has some crazy ideas about Uglies. What were Tally‘s parents like? Is Croy left-handed or right-handed? IS CABLE NATURALLY BLONDE? I‘ve posted my own ideas for a possible plot for Cakes, and now I want to hear your ideas.

NOTE: This thread is supposed to be light-hearted and fun. I don‘t care if you think somebody‘s theory is SUPER UNREALISTIC. Just loosen up and have a little fun. It won‘t kill you. But maybe the lesions feed on fun... maybe by being a boring person you can avoid being bubbleheaded... oh ho ho the conspiracies...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 21, 2012, 09:29:52 AM
My question is what did Tally's parents thing when she run away? Shay's parents too?
Has Tally ever seen her love ones sent the mind-rain? What would they think of her personality knowing that's not their old Tally no more?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 22, 2012, 04:37:20 AM
She dyes it most likely.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Eraisuithiel on August 22, 2012, 01:06:54 PM
..... now I‘m really interested in the colour of Cable‘s hair. I think there was a discussion about this a while ago, though.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 22, 2012, 09:25:07 PM
Oh there was.  But that was literally years ago.  I'll say what I think again because I feel like it: I think that her hair is a nice medium to dark brown.
I would go with tis or black.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 23, 2012, 12:22:36 AM
I always thought that David didn't actually get his scar from a bear.  I think he got it from Doctor Cable, she had just become Special and was testing out her abilities... and saw David in the wilderness.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 23, 2012, 12:29:53 AM
I always thought that David didn't actually get his scar from a bear.  I think he got it from Doctor Cable, she had just become Special and was testing out her abilities... and saw David in the wilderness.
I agree,when Tally and her friends were at The Smoke, they didnt mention anything about bears.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 24, 2012, 05:35:20 AM
I always thought that David didn't actually get his scar from a bear.  I think he got it from Doctor Cable, she had just become Special and was testing out her abilities... and saw David in the wilderness.
I think I read your fanfic of that!  It was really good  :)
Thanks  ;D 

And not that I don't like Scott-la's writing, but I thought David's reason for his scar was totally lame.  :P
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 24, 2012, 02:06:31 PM
Here's one for you; Specials are the test beds for something much, MUCH worse...and that MUCH WORSE thing escaped from Special Circumstances during Tally's break in in Uglies, and is now out to kill every single one of the Specials remaining...Tally included...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 25, 2012, 04:22:41 AM
Here's one for you; Specials are the test beds for something much, MUCH worse...and that MUCH WORSE thing escaped from Special Circumstances during Tally's break in in Uglies, and is now out to kill every single one of the Specials remaining...Tally included...
Hmm.  That is possible. It seems Cable's style to always have a trick up her sleeve.  ;)
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 25, 2012, 04:37:18 AM
I wasn't even thinking Cable. I was thinking even deeper. Cable HERSELF is being used by this same group.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 25, 2012, 10:46:47 AM
What if Cable is a robot?  :o
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Eraisuithiel on August 25, 2012, 12:34:10 PM
 :o
THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 25, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
She's got super human powers, she's not a robot...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 25, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
She's got super human powers, she's not a robot...
What we might see as super human powers might actually be VERY advanced robotics. 
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 26, 2012, 05:15:43 AM
OMFG.  Cable is the creators of super kick-ass robots.  These are called C.A.K.E.S.

Cable's
Army of
Killing
Electronic
Specials

Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 26, 2012, 05:17:47 AM
Bad acronym is bad.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 26, 2012, 05:20:50 AM
I was trying to come up with an acronym for Cake, there aren't many options.  Go be a bitch somewhere else.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 26, 2012, 05:22:22 AM
Cable's
Army
Keeps
Entertaining.

Because really, if she had her own army, it would be more entertaining than scary.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 26, 2012, 05:23:11 AM
Yes. xD

The C.A.K.E.S. will rule ze world!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 26, 2012, 05:24:33 AM
Yeah, Cable's Army doesn't put a shiver up my spine. More likely, it'll make me laugh like the Scout from TF2.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 26, 2012, 07:04:52 AM
Cable doesn't do much, she's a lazy ass getting everyone else to.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 26, 2012, 07:08:22 AM
She's no tactical treat either. She thinks she's invicible. Prove her wrong, and she's your bitch.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 26, 2012, 07:15:31 AM
That's the THING...NOTHINGS HE DID IS MASTERMINDFUL. Its standard military and intelligence community actions. Nothing that isn't done on a regular bases by the CIA, FBI, the Air Force, Special Air Service, etc.
She's smarter than everyone around her, nothing more. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 26, 2012, 07:23:45 AM
Yeah, she created SC but that all she does, she don't do anything else apart from stealing the brainiest uglies and turning them into specials just like her, instead of giving them a life to live, she captures them just for her, I think tally is the next Dr.Cable.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 26, 2012, 08:29:00 AM
There more Or less exactly the same.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 27, 2012, 02:55:26 AM
That's the THING...NOTHINGS HE DID IS MASTERMINDFUL. Its standard military and intelligence community actions. Nothing that isn't done on a regular bases by the CIA, FBI, the Air Force, Special Air Service, etc.
She's smarter than everyone around her, nothing more. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
If she had the idea to use knowledge from the past and turn it into tactics, then she was pretty smart. Keep in mind also that the CIA and the FBI are groups of people, Cable is one person.


Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 03:04:30 AM
Its not TACTICS. Its just reusing the plan by-the-book, and it only worked because Tally was too blind to see what would happen. If I were in that situation, I would have taken the locket and activated it far away from the Smoke, preferabbly somewhere where I could trigger det charges and drop several thousand tons of quarred stone on the idiot Specials who came after it. Or maybe some water to drown them. Lava. SOMETHING natural that would kill their asses in seconds.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 03:08:00 AM
That's a good plan, I would have just strapped the locket on to a bird or something and sent it flying.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 03:09:12 AM
That was my original idea actually...but my guess is there's at least one more secondary tracker in that damn thing knowing Cable.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 03:09:51 AM
She's crafty like that.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 27, 2012, 03:20:11 AM
Yeah, she created SC but that all she does, she don't do anything else apart from stealing the brainiest uglies and turning them into specials just like her, instead of giving them a life to live, she captures them just for her, I think tally is the next Dr.Cable.
I think Tally is too. I mean look how she used Aya.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 03:22:06 AM
That, and Aya's got stary-eyes for her. Freaking manga-brained schoolgirl is what she is. Like that chick who got nommed by zombies in High School of the Dead.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 03:31:08 AM
I gaged when I saw who Aya decided Tally.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 03:32:52 AM
Both of them need a swift kick to the head, preferably by someone wearing a steel-toed combat boot.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 03:44:40 AM
That would be Shay.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 03:46:12 AM
Does Shay wear combat boots?
And I was actually thinking you and me but Shay could help too...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 03:47:33 AM
Shay just seems like someone who would wear them.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 03:53:18 AM
She does actually...lots of black, probably a leather jacket, half gloves, steel-toed boots, military pants...I'm liking this look for her.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 07:20:01 AM
It sounds like she's like that too, it doesn't seem like she's a Girly girl does it?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 27, 2012, 08:35:37 AM
It sounds like she's like that too, it doesn't seem like she's a Girly girl does it?

I don't think she is but sometimes i think she is because she loves party's.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 08:40:30 AM
True. I guess she's a party diva inside a gothic kinda body?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 27, 2012, 12:18:30 PM
True. I guess she's a party diva inside a gothic kinda body?

Or maybe she is always a girlly person but Tally is incharge so she does what tally does because if you say no to er well you might end of dead.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 12:22:14 PM
Thats a negative on that...she sure as hell wasn't a girly ugly from the looks of it...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 12:42:21 PM
She's more punk than Goth. . .
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Thats a negative on that...she sure as hell wasn't a girly ugly from the looks of it...
You can tell that she wasnt, if she was she wouldn't of ran away to the smoke, she would of wanted to turn pretty.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:02:25 PM
Very true.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 07:06:11 PM
Unless she did it for David but shed only met him once before...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
Not really she's met him several times...and he actually figured out she had feelings for him and told her to SCREW OFF...jackwipe.
(shotgun cocking noise)
Back off buzzkill. Shay is MINE.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
And then he grabbed her and kissed her! The jerk  >:(
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:11:09 PM
Yep. Though then again he's probalby only had DEER to hump before this...living girl whos obviously interested in him? HORMONES GO!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:12:34 PM
I bet he ate the deer after he did that to it. Nasty thought.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 07:16:57 PM
Probably.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:19:56 PM
You know what? I bet your right Luna. That sounds like his style. Waste not want not right? Things traumatised already...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
And his mother and father ate that deer with him. . . yuck!!!!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:23:22 PM
Okay now you're going a little too far even for me!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:24:12 PM
But it's true, one person can't eat a whole deer. . .
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
Especially not one living in a forest where there's no humans to hunt them and probably few natural predators. Boom and bust cycle; humans die off, animals rise up.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:27:53 PM
Yep, we kill everything and are horrible for the planet.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:29:42 PM
And then we die off and in 300 years everything all happy...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:31:41 PM
Not if we do unrepairable damage to the planet. 
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:33:29 PM
Yeah...part of what Westereld was trying to say I think...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:35:16 PM
yep.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
All of the things that Scott put in the book is relevant to the real world.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:36:13 PM
Just about yeah.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 07:37:43 PM
Say the Cutters, they cut themselves to stay icy, it's just like self harming, cuttin/hurting yourself to get rid of anger.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:39:12 PM
Kind of is, though honestly I never really got the cutting yourself thing. . .
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:40:29 PM
Me either...my ex did it though. NOT REALLY ATTRACTIVE...
And Shay, if you need pain to get your head clear I can provide that...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:44:07 PM
Oh well I get pain part. Self inflected pain can clear your head, it's the knife part I don't like.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
Yeah. Like I said; I'll punch em both if they wanted a clear head...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:46:39 PM
Or you know, they could just dig their finger nails into their arm, it still hurts, but there's less chance of doing permanent damage.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:49:01 PM
Not enough pain I think...and the knifes are good as actual combat weapons...but yeah, still think its stupid.
Cue Jorge saying the similar thing in the RP...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:53:07 PM
*Shrug* Fingernails have always forked fine for me, knives are too much.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
Uh...alrighty then I just say yes.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:55:01 PM
correct answer.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:55:21 PM
Yay...I think I'm going to bed soon.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 07:56:11 PM
Okay, good night.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 07:57:26 PM
I said SOON...not just yet. Another 15-30 minutes probably.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
I think they provide as much pain as each other...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 08:02:42 PM
people have evolved to fear shop pointy things like knives. So there is a difference. 
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 27, 2012, 08:05:04 PM
With good reason I would think
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 27, 2012, 08:09:00 PM
Probably
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 27, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
I suppose, I don't think it is right to cut yourself.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 27, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
I suppose, I don't think it is right to cut yourself.
No it's not right.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 12:24:06 AM
Surely there were other ways of keeping icy.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 03:21:35 AM
Adrenaline, the cure...video games seem like a viable idea.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 03:37:35 AM
Cedar Point and other theme parks. 
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 03:38:21 AM
Yeah, something thats fun.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 03:52:15 AM
Roller Coaster yeah.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 03:58:53 AM
But, if we were in Diego, what things would you do ten, kiss people like tally and Zane did?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 04:01:20 AM
I'm only kissing Ugly Zane, I wouldn't be able to stomach kissing pretty Zane, he's too ugly.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 04:04:21 AM
Ew, biological DOLL! You don't kiss that, you BURN it.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 04:13:16 AM
Pretty much.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 04:31:30 AM
If I had to kiss someone, it would probably be David...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 04:34:58 AM
Who has never brushed his teeth.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 04:36:43 AM
At least not with a toothbrush...and THAT is why I would never run to the Smoke. That, and their lack of any defences...
I feel so awkward in this conversation cause I'm a dude...I don't wanna kiss either of them.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 04:39:13 AM
I know, but he seems like the right guy to kiss, Zane is just... To bubble headed.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 04:40:29 AM
That's why i want to kiss Ugly Zane!! No bubbles!!!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 04:45:16 AM
Also, David is kinda creepy. Something tells me growing up outside the cities messed with his head.
And...well, the way that Bogus to Bubbly puts it...it kinda sounds like he was USED by his parents to get recruits.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 04:46:52 AM
Yeah, I don't think he had the best life growing up.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 04:48:52 AM
I suppose, but Like tally said, he wasn't just an ugly, he was just David.& I agree, but some people grow up differently nowadays.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 04:49:37 AM
He grew up with no friends only his parents, that's got to mess you up.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 04:51:20 AM
But his been around with the other smokies older than him, I like the mature kind, the people that have an older attitude.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 04:52:04 AM
It's not mature to play with girls.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 05:20:20 AM
I get that, but he seems older for his age.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 05:35:40 AM
Not really. I mean being responsible and being mature are 2 different things.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 06:06:38 AM
Even shay said that he was older than the wrest in uglies them in specials it said that he was 18, I imagined him being at least 20 by te things he did.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 06:08:25 AM
I thought he was a year or 2 older than Tally and Shay, but being a good person and realizing that if you live in the forest you have to be responsible are 2 different things.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 06:12:05 AM
True, I think he was the nicest person in the series.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 06:13:29 AM
No, he was mean to Shay, read Shay's Story.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 28, 2012, 06:17:39 AM
No, he was mean to Shay, read Shay's Story.
True true
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 06:26:44 AM
Okaay, don't spoil it for me, no book store has got it round where I live. Well from the Tallys poit of view, I thought he was the loveliest person in the book.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 06:27:18 AM
Yeah, but Tally's stupid.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 06:28:57 AM
Tally's what we call an "unreliable narrator". With emphasis on the "unreliable" considering what happens to her. Yesh. She's not even worth fixing, just a mercy killing. Like Maximum Ride.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 06:51:52 AM
Well if you think about it she wouldn't really be missed. . .
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 06:55:02 AM
No, no she would NOT. Except by Aya. But then Frizz would kiss her and she'd forget all about it.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 06:56:15 AM
Suppose.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 07:04:20 AM
She lives in the woods, no one would know if she was even alive.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 07:05:27 AM
She DID go missing for a bit after the Mind Rain started...they wouldn't know she was dead unless someone found her body.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 07:07:06 AM
Whats the mind rain?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 07:11:50 AM
She DID go missing for a bit after the Mind Rain started...they wouldn't know she was dead unless someone found her body.

No, not even if the found the body, remember Aya said all the pics of her looked different.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 07:13:37 AM
Oh yes...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 07:19:08 AM
True, plus wasn't Aya Tallys number one fan?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 07:23:33 AM
Not neccicarilly.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 07:35:09 AM
Okaay, maybe not, but she was one of Tallys only friends.
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Post by: Bea-la on August 28, 2012, 09:04:47 AM
New conspiracy theory:  What if Cable was Tally from the future?  :o
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 09:09:56 AM
No, if they were the same person Cable would have played her cards differently.
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Post by: Bea-la on August 28, 2012, 09:10:45 AM
What if she didn't know?  Like Tally died and was reincarnated back in time.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 09:11:29 AM
Cable would know what she looked like when she was 16.
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Post by: Bea-la on August 28, 2012, 09:15:26 AM
I have an explanation.  Lets say Tally=Cable and Cable=Tally.  Cable exists first.  She destroys everything. She eventually realizes the horror of what she has done.  She uses amazing technology to reincarnate herself in the past as Tally with no knowledge other than that she should destroy Cable.  Its a fight against herself..
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
I'm thinking more along the lines of "Dr. Halesy/Cortana" relationship; Tally is a clone of Cable.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
Have we explored the idea that they're the same person from different universes?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 10:14:49 AM
Who, Cable and Tally or Cable and Halsey?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:15:30 AM
Have you ever watched the show Fringe? I'm thinking along those lines.
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Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 10:17:18 AM
I know what you mean, I'm asking who are we comparing?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:19:06 AM
Cable and Tally I was thinking. . .
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Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 10:20:05 AM
Ah. Well yeah thats a possibility.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:21:39 AM
But you know, if you consider other books different universes. Then Bella Swan could be Tally Youngblood. They could be the same person!! :o
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Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 10:22:32 AM
Thats...a disturbingly viable possibily. Katniss Everdeen too as well, if you think about it...Bella is Tally's girly side; Katniss is Tally's agressive.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:23:54 AM
Wow, who do you think Zane is in the other book universe? 
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Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
Zane is Edward and Peeta. David is Jacob and Gale.
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Post by: Bea-la on August 28, 2012, 10:25:25 AM
Who the f*ck does Twilight come into this?  :o
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:25:56 AM
Wow. David becomes three characters I hate.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Bea-la on August 28, 2012, 10:27:23 AM
Seriously though, what does Twilight have to do with this?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:28:29 AM
Well, we got talking about alternate universes and to books, different books are like alternate universes.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 28, 2012, 10:30:55 AM
Not LIKE, ARE alternate universes. If it has been thought, somewhere it actually exists. Infinite universes, infinite possibilities.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 28, 2012, 10:32:22 AM
Yep. I bet Paris is Cinna who is Jasper. 
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Post by: Leah-wa on August 28, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
I don't think there the same person, they've just got the same mind, you know what I mean? They've got the same personalities.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 30, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Twilight is so horrible.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 10:10:32 AM
It's not the greatest book, but I've read worse.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Alex-Wa on August 30, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
It's not the greatest book, but I've read worse.

Hum..I hate vimpires all together ad werewovles so anything related to that I will hate it.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 12:29:00 PM
In this one book I had to read, this girl was forced to do the nasty with a goat. So yeah, I don't consider vamp books bad next to that.
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Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 12:48:55 PM
Same. How does beastiality and human egg-laying sound to you guys? Werewolf related none the less. Compaired to that Twilight is nothing.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 12:50:08 PM
Weird. Oh and let's not forget rape by unicorn. 
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Oh, horse beastiality...
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
Which is legal in many states. But very nasty.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 12:51:40 PM
Yeah. Course furrys like it fine, but they're furries.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
God we live in a creepy world.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 12:54:36 PM
That we do. Even the Westerfandom isn't safe. Leviathan=beastiality and slash apperently.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
Eww. All i have to say.
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Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 01:04:12 PM
CONFIRMEd.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 01:07:08 PM
Hey speaking of scary, did Kim ask you to join the After Hours RP? Because I can't tell if she's serous or just messing with us. She knows Arik and I suck at fight scenes and Kim says you'll make us do a lot of sight scenes if you join.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 01:21:04 PM
She did...I just have no FUCKING clue how to get in.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 01:26:43 PM
Well is there any type of supernatural creature/person that you want to be? Really there's no wrong way to take that RP now that Zach left and we lost our villain.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 01:27:35 PM
Oh...maybe I could recycle Cal from some of my other works...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
Did Kim fill you in on what was going on?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 01:49:10 PM
Sorta, kinda..
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 01:51:26 PM
She told you about Brian, who was I guess building and army of vamps to take over the world and the vamp virus right?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 01:53:14 PM
No...but this gives me an idea...natrually immune Twilight-hating vampire hunter GO!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
None of these vamps sparkle to begin with.
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Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 01:56:32 PM
I know they aren't Twilight ones. Just gives him even MORE reason to want to fight them.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 01:59:24 PM
Okay. So, maybe the virus kills Brain (And Zach's other characters)His vamps go nuts, and then you character come from a hunter guild or whatever with the mission to stop them or something? 
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
Not so much a hunter GUILD as a rag-tag militia style band. I like that better than the "armed and ready" guild style thing...this IS modern times right?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:01:17 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:01:50 PM
Solid...I'll get on the RP and see whats been going on...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:04:40 PM
NOTHINGS been going on. We've been dead stuck since Zach left.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:05:15 PM
Really? Lame. Where'd he go?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:05:40 PM
He quit the forum.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:09:06 PM
That...seems to happen a lot with people on here. Lexa (now Lexa-wa I think, she's back thanks to me) Austin-la, Death the Kidd...
Wonder what causes it. Or is this another case of my protected little self looking into the real world with no clue whats going on? My relationship with my first girlfreind in its entirny basically...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:13:36 PM
Austin was harassing some female members of the forum and got kicked off by Deca and Isn't Death Clouse?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:14:54 PM
SERIOUSLY? No, wait, he came back after that I think...and then he left again...I dunno.
Is he? Not a clue.
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
Are you rambling about Clouse or Austin?
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Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
Austin. I did several RP's with him. Interesting guy, lived here in Seattle with me actually. Never met him though.
As for Clouse/Kidd, I don't know if they're the same person or not. Don't really care so I doubt I'll ask. All I know is Clouse is a good RPer.

Not sure where I'm going with this...probably the same reason I went loopy whenever Shiloh came over.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:19:10 PM
Who's Shiloh?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:20:43 PM
First girlfreind, first ex. Trekkie, Tesla-like girl (seriously), then raver, druggie, preggo and now...Hester Shaw IRL minus the scar?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
That's horrible! How could she let herself go like that. Poor girl. 
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Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:24:27 PM
My thoughs to the letter, Luna. Almost dragged me down with her for a bit. She offered to name her kid after me. No clue WHY, wasn't mind. I didn't even properly kiss her.
Bleght...
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:26:30 PM
Shame, what a waste.
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Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:27:38 PM
Yeah. I moved on though. Think she has too. Last I heard she's further along in college than I am.
Right, enough of th depressing topic if you don't mind...
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Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:29:23 PM
Okay. What were we talking about before the depressing stuff?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:30:11 PM
After Hours. And before that...nasty stuff in fandoms.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Luna Lovegood on August 30, 2012, 02:30:51 PM
Oh God no more nasty stuff!!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on August 30, 2012, 02:32:58 PM
We're done with that don't worry.
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Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
Cable's hair is DARK, not blonde, never ever, haha ;D
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
Then Luna and I jacked the thread AGAIN...gah.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 03:56:40 PM
I don't get to help!? D:

And Fanna, yay!!! Someone agrees with me!! ^^
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Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 03:58:50 PM
I agree with you to.
And you can next time, now that you're on...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 04:00:35 PM
I agree with you to.
And you can next time, now that you're on...

Haha yea, when this thread was made it was August, I was being held hostage at the time so I was unable to post anything xP
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
Hostage, huh? Next time that happens pop a flare and I'll come save your ass Special style.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Hostage, huh? Next time that happens pop a flare and I'll come save your ass Special style.

Good luck, 'cause it was the Specials keeping me locked up!
You'll have to bust in Smokie-style ;)
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Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
Special-era Smokies I would think...David and with the boards and the arrows and whatnot.
That was one of my favorite parts...seeing Specials get their asses hand to them and shown that, despite what they think, they are ANYTHING BUT Special is always good.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 04:07:18 PM
Lol~!
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Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 04:08:52 PM
Its true really. I look at them and I don't see them as a threat, you know? Cause I know of what a REAL threat looks like;
The Covenant
Special Operations Troopers of all nations
Spartans
Zombies
Etc.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
Its true really. I look at them and I don't see them as a threat, you know? Cause I know of what a REAL threat looks like;
The Covenant
Special Operations Troopers of all nations
Spartans
Zombies
Etc.

Special Operations Troopers? So like the military and FBI and whatnot?
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Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 04:16:10 PM
OH NO, I'm talking the baddest of the bad; Delta Force, the Army Rangers, Marine Raiders, Special Air Service, Spetznas.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 04:17:46 PM
OH NO, I'm talking the baddest of the bad; Delta Force, the Army Rangers, Marine Raiders, Special Air Service, Spetznas.

Aren't they all pretty dangerous? :P Military included xD
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 04:18:41 PM
Yes, but when I think of them I think of the real badassses. But, comparied to the Specials, the FBI is actually pretty damn good...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
Hahaha, but I'd rather be a Special then a member of the FBI any day! :P
I'd get cool body surge and tattoos, haha~!
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
Very true. No lesions in your head though I assume. Everything else gimme.
Healing? Yes
Enhanced strenght and speed? Yes
Senses? Yes.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 05:01:04 PM
Very true. No lesions in your head though I assume. Everything else gimme.
Healing? Yes
Enhanced strenght and speed? Yes
Senses? Yes.

No, I'll take the lesions too :3
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 05:13:38 PM
Seriously? Like, the whole cutting thing too?
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 05:21:18 PM
Seriously? Like, the whole cutting thing too?

Maybe not the whole cutting thing, but the lesions definitely.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 05:24:04 PM
I fail to see why. I kinda like free will. But whatever.
Or do you mean the ones that make everything bubbly...
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
Either would be fun~! n_n

I don't believe in free will, I think the Universe (not a God), has everything set in stone already. If things are meant to happen they will and we really have no control over it. Everything we do is already destined to happen. Even the most trivial things are like that and there is nothing we have a say over. Free will is just an illusion.

But that's only my opinion and I'm often wrong :3
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Straif on October 01, 2012, 05:37:43 PM
Well, its certainly a good excuse to want to be happy-go-lucky and do parties and stuff all day every day. Seems like a kickass time to me.
Title: Re: uglies Discussion Revival: Conspiracy Theories
Post by: Reenie-La on October 01, 2012, 05:49:14 PM
Well, its certainly a good excuse to want to be happy-go-lucky and do parties and stuff all day every day. Seems like a kickass time to me.
Haha, yepp~! I agree ;D