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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #135 on: June 23, 2013, 04:59:16 AM »

You wanna argue that, take it to the other thread.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #136 on: June 23, 2013, 06:44:00 AM »


This is why I think Clankers are better than Darwinists.
There's a different thread for arguing about Clankers v. Darwinists
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #137 on: June 23, 2013, 06:52:38 AM »

I love how fast people here get off topic!
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #138 on: June 23, 2013, 01:23:28 PM »

I love how fast people here get off topic!
Happens every time. Humans...
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #139 on: June 23, 2013, 01:39:14 PM »

Umm... we're off topic talking about how we tend to get off topic... anyone else see the irony here?

Back on topic, the Germans weren't presented as 'evil', per say, but they never were presented as good, either. This, I think, is basically because Deryn is on the opposite side of the war as them, so of course she would view them as the bad guys; and they've been hunting Alek since page one. Literally, page one.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #140 on: June 23, 2013, 05:06:42 PM »

Irony indeed.

Its all about perspective...if, say, Leviathan had been written from a GERMANS perspective (Blitz, I'm looking at  YOU to write that as a fanfic, with Beowulf's help) the Darwinists would be seen as the bad guys.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #141 on: June 23, 2013, 10:00:58 PM »

Aye, it's the kind if war where each side is enemy to the other,earning every instant of each others hate.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #142 on: June 24, 2013, 12:56:28 AM »

Yeah, I totally agree that if Leviathan had been written from the Germans point of view; like one of them hunting Alek; Alek would seem like the bad guy for running away; and the Leviathan would seem like a bad guy for helping him. Or, if the Germans were helping Alek instead of hunting him... the book could be shown from both sides of the war against each other... which would be awesome... then both sides would be shown as bad guys sometimes.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #143 on: June 24, 2013, 04:05:54 AM »

It would have been like Mortal Engines.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #144 on: June 24, 2013, 04:08:04 AM »

Haven't read that... yet...
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #145 on: June 24, 2013, 04:13:54 AM »

Do so when you get the chance.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #146 on: June 24, 2013, 04:15:07 AM »

It is on my... very long... list.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #147 on: June 25, 2013, 02:23:44 PM »

Yeah, I totally agree that if Leviathan had been written from the Germans point of view; like one of them hunting Alek; Alek would seem like the bad guy for running away; and the Leviathan would seem like a bad guy for helping him. Or, if the Germans were helping Alek instead of hunting him... the book could be shown from both sides of the war against each other... which would be awesome... then both sides would be shown as bad guys sometimes.
I remember back in the good old days that I write a horrid fanfiction about a German agent trying to assassinate his cousin Alek after killing his parents. From what I written about him, the German is an anti-hero who loves to kill for the fatherland.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #148 on: June 25, 2013, 02:49:39 PM »

Except the Germans weren't bad guys... most wars aren't good guy/bad guy. For example, the Revolutionary War. Nearly everyone in the U.S. tends to think of it as Patriots=good; Loyalists and Britain=bad. But it isn't that simple, and to prove my point, I did a persuasive essay for the Loyalists. For this, it's definitely a 'victor writes the history books' type thing. Same with World War 1.
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Re: Why are the Germans the evil?
« Reply #149 on: June 25, 2013, 04:58:44 PM »

I think one of the problems is people get get WWI and WWII confused, and arguing that the Nazis were the good guys is very difficult indeed.
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