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More "What If"s + Important Questions
« on: September 10, 2013, 03:59:59 PM »

We know that Zane was one of Shay's friends, along with her, who didn't originally go to the Smoke. But we learn in the first manga that Zane was freaked out, because he learned Special Circumstances was real. Do you think, if Zane was never interrogated by Specials, that they both would have gone to the Smoke first, and not on the second try for Shay (even though David didn't originally want her to)?
Although Tally was quite tricky, even sneaking into a Pretty party, she always wanted, like most, to become pretty. We know from the Pretties novel that all Specials were tricky enough to stop being "bubble-headed". So do you think she would have still become a Special, being really tricky, even if she had never met Shay?
We know from the manga that David first didn't want Shay going to the Smoke just because she had started loving him, and that once she did go to the Smoke, she and David started having a relationship. But then David and Tally started loving each other. If Tally hadn't (accidentally) told the Specials where the Smoke was (and caused David's dad to die), how do you think Shay and Tally's relationship would have been, along with David and Shay's relationship? Do you think Shay would now just be David's friend? Do you think Tally and Shay would still have become "frenemies" because of deciding who "owns" David, or would they would have worked it out? In the other "What if..." topic post, someone said Tally might have been murdered by Shay...
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Re: More "What If"s + Important Questions
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2013, 11:36:04 PM »

I think if Zane hadn't been interrogated by Special Circumstances,  he would've gone the first time, but Shay wouldn't have, because, if I remember right, she didn't know that Zane hadn't gone until after all the others had left, so it wouldn't influence her decision.

I don't think she would have, because when she finally was made Special, it was for trying to escape New Pretty Town, which was a result of the pills she got from Maddy, who she never would have met if it weren't for Shay. Dr. Cable wasn't just looking for tricky Uglies, she was looking for people who could stay tricky after the surge.

I think Shay would be all bitter and still feel like Tally was 'stealing' him, but she'd still deny to herself and everyone else that she loved him, but it would certainly complicate their relationship. And don't worry, the other "What if..." thread is just silly, not like real answers. Most of the time, anyway.
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Re: More "What If"s + Important Questions
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 04:45:14 AM »

I don't think she would have, because when she finally was made Special, it was for trying to escape New Pretty Town, which was a result of the pills she got from Maddy, who she never would have met if it weren't for Shay. Dr. Cable wasn't just looking for tricky Uglies, she was looking for people who could stay tricky after the surge.
Even though Tally got those 2 pills, she took the one that didn't do anything to her brain, because she didn't take the other that Zane got, and she still cleared her brain. So even though, all because of meeting Shay and Maddy and getting the pills, she was determined to leave New Pretty Town, do you think there was still a slim chance of her becoming a Special? Or at least a "brain-cleared" Middle Pretty that had a serious job, such as a surgeon like Maddy and Az?
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Re: More "What If"s + Important Questions
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 07:58:03 AM »

I still doubt it, because a) even if the pill was a placebo, it still worked and b) she never would have wanted not to be pretty if it weren't for the Smoke. She'd probably be completely happy as a pretty. Also, before anyone points out Zane: She met Zane through the Crims, who she met through Shay.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 01:35:16 PM »

Technically, the pill, being a placebo, didn't work, but yeah, she most likely wouldn't have become Special, because she thought it was working, and the pills were all due to meeting Shay.
Another question: We know from that Pretties quote that Dr. Cable had been a tricky Ugly, going to the ruins and running even farther away, having to be found and brought back. Do you think that Dr. Cable, as an Ugly, had been trying to find and join the Smoke while running away?
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Re: More "What If"s + Important Questions
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2013, 11:25:15 PM »

Probably not. I don't think that the Smoke existed when she was an ugly, unless Maddy and Az are a lot older than they seem, and Cable a lot younger.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2013, 05:01:38 AM »

Well, we don't know Cable's exact age, since both the Pretty and Special operations give you beautiful, younger looks. So she could be younger than Maddy and Az...
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2013, 08:07:54 AM »

Maybe. But that doesn't exactly make sense, because Cable would have to be younger than she seems, not older.
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