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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 02:34:47 AM »

There's no one "normal". there's as many normals as there are living things in the universe.
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 11:46:58 PM »

And u think people ten to confuse normal with shallow....
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2010, 05:42:43 AM »

There is no definition of normal.

indeed. Normal is a fictitious standard that we impose on others and ourselves. You cannot average out personalities, or faces....

Actually, you can.
It would be nice to think that we're all so unique that there is no way to quantify our traits or our appearances, if only so that nobody feels left out (if there is normal, then nobody can be abnormal and an outcast, right?)
But psychology's been doing it for a while. There are several different personality tests that have been created for this exact purpose--one of the most well-known ones (you might've even taken it, perhaps for a career test) is the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator Explaining it will be slightly complicated (I suggest you read about it or take it online, it's pretty interesting)...but the point is, if you take the test, you will get percentiles for different traits (ie; "75% introversion", you are more introverted than 75% of the population). They can quantify personality traits. Thus, they can find an average.

Furthermore, there MUST be a normal, because we identify the abnormal. From a humanitarian standpoint, I'm sure saying "there is no normal" is fine, and it sounds much nicer than identifying the "not normal" as outcasts. However, from a psychological standpoint, identifying the abnormal is necessary. People with schizophrenia and borderline personality disorder and even clinical depression are not normal. We have to acknowledge that there is something wrong, something deviating from the normal in order to help them. If you persist in saying "But there is no normal, so whatever they're experiencing is just different, not abnormal" you would simply be denying a problem, and therefore refusing to fix it, not helping them. It also seems like you all seem to be attacking the idea of normal because you think you're considered abnormal, without considering the problems that presents for people who actually are abnormal, not just the outcasts in a middle or high school setting.

I think there's certain ranges for normality: Yeah, it might be a little "not normal" to, say, wear facepaint to school or some other such thing, but it's on an entirely different level from having hallucinations of grandeur. If you look at society as a whole, most people ARE normal. That's how it works. You might be "weird" within the context of your school, but considered in the context of over six billion people, your little deviations from the standard still fit within the range of normalcy. The more people you consider, the more it averages out. In an all white neighborhood, an asian person is an abnormality. But obviously, it's not abnormal to be asian. The more people you consider, the bigger the deviations for normality are.

I'm going to stop because I think most of you probably already stopped reading or think what I'm saying makes no sense.

One more thing. As for averaging faces, that's even simpler:
http://www.faceresearch.org/students/averageness
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2010, 10:54:40 AM »

That was a long post.
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2010, 03:57:49 AM »

This convo is way to deep so i hav to change subject



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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2010, 09:04:55 AM »

Didn't Scott say in b2b that we find averaged faces prettier than individuals, but most 'super attractive' people have something not average?
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 11:23:55 AM »

ya he did
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 11:44:36 AM »

Yep.
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2010, 09:26:00 AM »

Yep, and I think I explained normal pretty well on the first page.
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2010, 08:47:49 PM »

*smiles* there's a well thought-out answer, Chloe.
hehe, thanks mara-la :)

i like pedestrian's explanation, it makes a lot of sense
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2010, 11:43:31 PM »

Unfortunately, I couldn't bring myself to read it. (Which sucks, considering I started this thread.)
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2010, 02:43:20 AM »

haha, it was quite lengthy ::)
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2010, 07:45:23 AM »

Yeah I can't seem to get past the first paragraph of Pedestrian's explanation.
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2010, 01:54:07 PM »

This is a little bit depressing.

Lengthy? It was three paragraphs. You people read several hundred page long novels.
But I digress. I shouldn't have posted something so long or complicated, really. I'm sure chocolate is a much more entertaining and appropriate topic.
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Re: What is normal?
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2010, 02:17:52 PM »

I read it, and I agree, to a point... It's hard give a definition of normal... If you average everyone out, then the average itself would appear to be abnormal....
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