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Hunger Games VS Uglies
« on: April 24, 2012, 07:22:29 AM »
Okay, I've been hearing a lot of "Katniss is just a rip off of Tally and Suzanne just ripped Scott off and I hate the Hunger Game!" Well, aside from being really annoying, this is just not accurate for so many reasons. I mean sure there are similarities, but it's not a copy. Here are the reasons why.

Truth- Both books have female main character
Truth-almsot half of all YA books have girls for main person in the story.
Truth- There is a love triangle in both
Truth-City of Bones, Twilight, Vampier Academy, Wickedly Lovely all had this, and no 1 said they were copying Scott.
Truth-they are both Dystopias
Truth- There are a heck of a lot of books like that right now, it's a popular topic!
Truth-In uglies, the government keeps the people, healthy, happy and pampered to they do not do crazy things or rebel.
Truth- In hunger games, they starve them, beat them, and torture them so they can't rebel.
Truth-uglies characters care about looking nice.
Truth- Hunger Game's people don't give a damm and care about making it to tomorrow alive
Truth- Hunger Games is written in 1st person
Truth-Uglies is written in third

I don't see that many similarities here guys. To say Hunger is a bad imitation of uglies, it's not true, because it's not suppose to be and imitation of uglies to begin with.
 
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 07:55:27 AM »
That is so right!
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 03:27:02 PM »
I think more than anything it's the fact that they are both successful teen novels being adapted to the big screen. 


Now, if this was about which series wins out....well, let's just say I'm posting on a Uglies forum and not a Hunger Games one. ;)
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 04:41:22 AM »
This is not a thread of which 1 you like more, this is a thread about why you cannot call Hunger a cheap ripoff of Uglies.
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 06:06:09 AM »
There really aren't that many similarites, I agree. I haven't read Hunger Games, but I can tell from what little I know there's almost no correlation between them. Which makes me even more puzzled by people who say Katniss could kill Special Tally...yeah, right.
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 06:21:51 AM »
Quote from: Straif5 on May 01, 2012, 06:06:09 AM
Which makes me even more puzzled by people who say Katniss could kill Special Tally...yeah, right.
Suuuure.
The main similarity is that they're both teen dystopias, but the worlds they are set in are radically different. (Although not that much, now that I think about it... both governments want to control their population, one by the Hunger Games and one by brain damage.)
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 09:24:15 AM »
I hate how people automatically assume that when two books are "similar," one is "copying" the other. If no book were ever influenced by another book, books would suck. Authors use elements from other works of literature to improve their own, and a novel that is entirely original would have little going for it. I think what people should be discussing is not whether Collins "copied" Scott, but how his work may have influenced the development of her story or the way people look at it.
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 09:30:36 AM »
Quote from: Khoela on May 01, 2012, 09:24:15 AM
I hate how people automatically assume that when two books are "similar," one is "copying" the other. If no book were ever influenced by another book, books would suck. Authors use elements from other works of literature to improve their own, and a novel that is entirely original would have little going for it. I think what people should be discussing is not whether Collins "copied" Scott, but how his work may have influenced the development of her story or the way people look at it.
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 09:44:28 AM »
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 01:03:29 PM »
Quote from: Khoela on May 01, 2012, 09:24:15 AM
I hate how people automatically assume that when two books are "similar," one is "copying" the other. If no book were ever influenced by another book, books would suck. Authors use elements from other works of literature to improve their own, and a novel that is entirely original would have little going for it. I think what people should be discussing is not whether Collins "copied" Scott, but how his work may have influenced the development of her story or the way people look at it.

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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 01:49:13 PM »
Quote from: Khoela on May 01, 2012, 09:24:15 AM
I hate how people automatically assume that when two books are "similar," one is "copying" the other. If no book were ever influenced by another book, books would suck. Authors use elements from other works of literature to improve their own, and a novel that is entirely original would have little going for it. I think what people should be discussing is not whether Collins "copied" Scott, but how his work may have influenced the development of her story or the way people look at it.

Such is the way of the masses...why do you think Twilight is so bloody popular?
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 07:23:05 AM »
Quote from: Luna Lovegood on May 01, 2012, 01:03:29 PM
Quote from: Khoela on May 01, 2012, 09:24:15 AM
I hate how people automatically assume that when two books are "similar," one is "copying" the other. If no book were ever influenced by another book, books would suck. Authors use elements from other works of literature to improve their own, and a novel that is entirely original would have little going for it. I think what people should be discussing is not whether Collins "copied" Scott, but how his work may have influenced the development of her story or the way people look at it.

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Hi new best friend! :D But I think I might have just managed to vocalize what a lot of people were thinking...
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 07:25:33 AM »
Quote from: Straif5 on May 01, 2012, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: Khoela on May 01, 2012, 09:24:15 AM
I hate how people automatically assume that when two books are "similar," one is "copying" the other. If no book were ever influenced by another book, books would suck. Authors use elements from other works of literature to improve their own, and a novel that is entirely original would have little going for it. I think what people should be discussing is not whether Collins "copied" Scott, but how his work may have influenced the development of her story or the way people look at it.

Such is the way of the masses...why do you think Twilight is so bloody popular?
I think it's popular because it's an easy, fast read that doesn't require a huge time or intellectual commitment and also has a character that it is easy to put yourself in the place of because she's so generic. My mom once said that "twilight is like a twinkie: You eat it, and you know it's bad for you, but you enjoy it while you're eating it, and then when you're done, you look at your plate and think, "why did I just eat that? It was disgusting."
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 09:11:04 AM »
You're mom sums it up pretty damn good.
And DO NOT get me started on Bella's genericness. God. If I had a choice, I'd capture her, cut out her brain, and replace it with the preserved one of Hester Shaw. Poor girl deserves something better for what she's been through. Shaw, I mean, not Bella.
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Re: Hunger Games VS Uglies
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 06:59:11 AM »
Quote from: Straif5 on May 02, 2012, 09:11:04 AM
You're mom sums it up pretty damn good.
And DO NOT get me started on Bella's genericness. God. If I had a choice, I'd capture her, cut out her brain, and replace it with the preserved one of Hester Shaw. Poor girl deserves something better for what she's been through. Shaw, I mean, not Bella.
What's Hester Shaw from? I see the name a lot on the internet :O
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