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Symbolism in Uglies
« on: May 03, 2012, 07:18:29 AM »

I've noticed that the symbolism in the Hunger Games has been discussed pretty extensively, but I haven't seen much for Uglies. I was wondering if anyone has noticed any.
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David represents reality. Zane represents the "fantasy" world that Tally is living in due to the lesions. Tally liked being beautiful and popular, but in order to have reality back, she has to give it up. Shay introduced Tally to David, who represents reality, in the same way that Shay showed her that being "pretty" wasn't how reality worked. When Tally "stole" him from Shay, she was also stealing Shay's reality, because shortly after, they got caught and were turned pretty.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 09:18:03 AM »

Lets see...refference, reality, carry the two...yeah, this sounds about right.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 02:40:21 PM »

Hmm. I didn't feel like their was as much symbolism in Uglies as there was in HG, but you brig up a good point.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 02:52:32 PM »

I dunno. Haven't read HG. Probably wont. I'm waiting for Scrivener's Moon to come out.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 08:42:03 PM »

A lot of the things people take as basic plot points were symbolic. Someone on Tumblr explained how there is no "team Peeta" or "team Gale" because Peeta represents hope and Gale represents the past. (The post is right here: http://etosaurus.tumblr.com/post/19975922709/anonymous-asked-i-know-you-love-katniss-and-peeta) I think Uglies might have a lot more than we've already examined.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2012, 12:37:47 AM »

Probably does. Symbolism can be deviously subtle.
And seriously; enough with the "teams" already. Actually, have you noticed it's always the dudes? Never heard of a "Team Hester" or "Team Kate", now have we?
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2012, 04:37:48 AM »

It's because the majority of YA fans are girls, so the majority of main characters are girls, so the majority of love triangles revolve around the girl. It if revolves around the guy but a girl is the MC, the other girl is automatically an antagonist. If the MC is a guy, and he's torn between two girls, he looks like a player.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2012, 04:45:35 AM »

And apperently being a "player" is bad. Well, now I have to write one with a guy torn between two girls. Oh, I'll make them both really unsocial and ugly by most people's standards! Kind of how I'm fictionally torn between Hester Shaw and Fever Crumb...
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2012, 04:49:43 AM »

Haha xD I don't get how girls can do that, but guys can't.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2012, 05:35:22 AM »

The hell if I know either. Maybe because it's tied in with the whole "women are weaker" thing, and a guy choosing between two girls would be considered slightly sexist? I dunno. Really, the only reason people like love triangles is because they tie into the animalistic part of our brains that are still wired for cave living. Back then, males would actually physically fight over females. This is just the modern-day equivilent.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 05:44:00 AM »

There's also supposed to be the excitement of seeing who the character chooses in the end. Sometimes it's also symbolic, but that's not true of all of them, or even most.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 06:16:55 AM »

The tracker locket represents Tally's old beliefs in a way.  She got it for the mission that would ensure she became pretty.  When she got to the smoke and her beliefs changed, she threw the locket in the fire.

Zane's death represents the tragedy of the Deigo War.  I mean, he's not the only person who died, but he's the only one who really affected Tally, and the only one we really hear about.

Dr. Cable herself really represents the whole system.  When Tally cures her, that's when everything starts to fall apart.  Some of that might have been the power she had, but curing Dr. Cable also represents a new beginning.
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2012, 06:24:36 AM »

Also, Cable could be a physical representation of science gone wrong. Which is funny, cause the manga version of her looks like Dr. Halsey from Halo...
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2012, 10:55:53 AM »

I havent really thought about symbolism in books but now that you mention it you are so right
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Re: Symbolism in Uglies
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 10:59:27 AM »

Symbolism is really interesting. I never really understood it until earlier this year, when I started seeing it in books I liked rather than just school books.
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